Linux-Misc Digest #765, Volume #20               Thu, 24 Jun 99 02:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: The best IRC and ICQ applications for Linux? (Jan Panteltje)
  Re: newbie: about tarring (Cameron L. Spitzer)
  can't write tape labels in arkeia (alex)
  execve() broken? (William Burrow)
  Re: Changing domain name of a machine (Yuri Voronov)
  OSS and esound <- bad sound (jik-)
  Re: Pci versus Agp, which to buy (Mooniesdl2)
  Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (Christopher B. Browne)
  Linux on Intel/Oracle8/XA -- anyone tried it? (Wayne Scott)
  go back and forward in directory tree (Vic Mortelmans)
  Re: FSCK and FS check forced.... (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Looking for Driver SiS 530 (jeepgal98)
  SIOCADDRT: Operation not supported by device ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Group and users    Is this right (Jeffrey Bell)
  Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (was: Depoliticising the argument (was: 
The End of Free Software)) (Peter Seebach)
  Re: CD player - no sound ("Prasanth Kumar")
  Re: WIN95 -> Linux box on Serial port! ("Ferdinand V. Mendoza")
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest 
News ("Scott MacDonald")
  MPEG I vs II
  Re: lpd setup problem (L J Bayuk)
  Re: CD player - no sound ("chnrxn")
  Re: Increasing size of swap partition (Floyd Davidson)
  Remote console - Re: Remote fsck possible for Linux? (David Crooke)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Panteltje)
Subject: Re: The best IRC and ICQ applications for Linux?
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 99 10:44:11 GMT

>Hi I'm wondering what's the best IRC / ICQ applications for Linux (w/o KDE
>GNOME). Please let me know. Thanks.
>
>Kenny
>
>--
>                       __--------__
>                     /             |           \
>                    /             |            \
>                 _[/----------------- \]_
>               / _ |\       0        /| _ \
>              | (_)| \              / |(_) |
>              |____|__\_____!______/__|____|
>              [________|  KENNY  |_________]
>               |__|     ~~~~~~~~~      |__|
>       ___  _________  ___  ___   ___    __ _______  __
>      / _ )/  _/ ___/ / _ )/ _ | / _ \  / //_/ __/ |/ /
>     / _  |/ // (_ / / _  / __ |/ // / / ,< / _//    / 
>    /____/___/\___/ /____/_/ |_/____/ /_/|_/___/_/|_/  
>                                                  
>   "The most important thing is be true to yourself."
> $$$$  http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~ah190/Profile.html $$$$
>
I wrote a small IRC client that works in console, or a Xterm.
uirc, its is at:
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/network/chat/
(if it has not been moved).
or http://www.panteltje.demon.nl/newsflex/download.html
Do not expect miracles from it, it was just a programming exercise.
J.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: newbie: about tarring
Date: 23 Jun 1999 15:49:59 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lew Pitcher wrote:
>Besides the obvious dangers of having to restore to a drive of exactly
>the same geometry as the backed up driver, do you see any problem with
>backing up a drive using something like...
>
>   tar -czvf hda1.tar /dev/hda1

This will produce a tiny little gzipped tarfile containing a single
tiny little file, a device node entry for the device /dev/hda1.
A tarfile is a description of a set of files sufficient to reproduce
them.  It can describe plain files, directories, named pipes,
and device nodes.  When you unpacked this tarball, tar would attempt
the equivalent of

  mknod /dev/hda1 b 3 1

which would fail because it already exists, and exit.

Cameron



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From: alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't write tape labels in arkeia
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:37:18 GMT

Has anyone run into this problem with arkeia archiving software? :

I try to write a tape label, and I get the error message

Drive 'Drive 1' is empty!

But I can operate on the drive with tar (although no data exists) or mt.
Since there's no label, arkeia refuses to do backups ....

I got around this problem about 4 months ago, but now I can't seem to
remember how I did it ...

Thanks for any and all help.
--
Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: execve() broken?
Date: 24 Jun 1999 03:52:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I had opportunity to poke at chroot(8) recently, in fact, suggesting it
to someone else as a potential solution to their problem.  After
receiving a complaint that it didn't work, I gave it a test, and sure
enough, chroot(8) is pretty darn useless.

It turns out with some testing, that chroot(2) works as expected.  A
quick test of execve(2) in ordinary circumstances also works.  But, once
one is chroot(2)ed to a directory, execve(2) becomes useless -- unable
to find the executables in question, even though they are sitting right
there in the path.

Some testing on an OpenBSD box showed that things worked as expected,
so I suspect a bizarre Linux kernel bug, though I'll take other answers
that lead to a working execve() in a chrooted environment.

-- 
William Burrow  --  New Brunswick, Canada             o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow                     ~  /\
                                                ~  ()>()

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From: Yuri Voronov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Changing domain name of a machine
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 1999 14:35:48 +0400

Hi!

Check /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/hosts, etc.
===
Y.

Parabola wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> I have a Linux web server hosting a few virtual domains.  If I want to
> change the domain name of the box from "www.aaa.com" to "www.bbb.com"
> when IP address stays the same (the box is the primary NS of both
> aaa.com and bbb.com), what are the places where I have to make
> changes?  I'm working on a check list:
>
> - login prompt
> - dns
> - sendmail
> - /etc/sysconfig/network
>
> What else?  Anyone can help?
>
> Cheers!
> :Parabola
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Programming, as in formatting code and composing algorithm,
>         is indeed an art by itself.
> Hence, programmer can be considered as some kind of artist.
> Too bad, artist generally are not paid well. =(
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> URL:       http://i.am/parabola/
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: OSS and esound <- bad sound
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:47:39 -0700

I am having trouble with my sound system.  After the thread about
children's software I decided to expirament with getting some sounds
recorded to see how I would do it.  I even got a very incomplete sound
editor which I thought I would use to clean up the sound.

I can use esound to play sounds recorded by other people, the Asta
Lavista wave works great in esd.  However if I try to cat it to my card
or use sox "play" to play it its not too good...play does it and it
sounds jittery, cat just gives me static.  Esdplay does it a lot better
but I still get some low volume pops.

I can use cat to get sound FROM my card and then use sox to turn it into
a wave and cat it back out just fine.  Esound plays it in extreem fast
forward.  If I try to use esdrec to get a sound all I get is clicks from
"esdrec | esdcat" and an empty wave file if I try to save it instead.

My card is forever locked into 8 bit sound in linux because it is a
soundblaster compatable generic, but shouldn't I be able to get some
sound I can work with and will play with all software?  Can someone help
me out a bit here?

Here is data from esd startup:
unsupported sound format: 33
Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 16bit failed
Trying 44.1Khz, 8bit stereo.
unsupported playback rate: 44100
Audio device open for 44.1Khz, stereo, 8bit failed
Trying 22.05Khz, 8bit stereo.

the bleepeepuptoo stuf on startup sounds great.  I would take a gander
tha esd might be able to play my cd waves but I haven't tried yet.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mooniesdl2)
Subject: Re: Pci versus Agp, which to buy
Date: 24 Jun 1999 04:46:25 GMT

I have had a STB Velocity 128 w/4meg AGP working fine.  What exact card are you
using?

moonie ;)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To:  comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:11:37 GMT

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:28:10 +0000, DHobbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > Here is my comment for those who honestly believe that
>> > Microsoft has anything to fear from the "free (taxpayer
>> > supported) software" movement:
>
>Taxpayer Supported??  That's a new one.
>
>When did the tax payers start supporting Linux?

<warning type="FALLACIES" class="Believable to the gullible">

<item> The FSF is a charitable organization under IRS rules.

<reality-check>But their expenditures represent taxable income in someone's
hands, so there's only a brief loop of untaxedness. </reality-check>

<item> No licensing fees --> no profits --> no taxes paid.

<reality-check> Of course, if you pay $$$ to MSFT for licenses, that
represents a deduction from business income for business users that pay the
lion's share of licensing fees.  After all, they just pirate the software
for home use, right? </reality-check> 

<item> Tax $ --> NASA --> Donald Becker

<reality-check> And <emphasis/all/ that money gets paid to Donald Becker,
right? </reality-check>

Obviously a tax subsidy occurs when you use free software.
</warning>
-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.  
-- Henry Spencer          <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."

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From: Wayne Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.misc,comp.databases.oracle,comp.databases.oracle.misc
Subject: Linux on Intel/Oracle8/XA -- anyone tried it?
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 13:24:00 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Folks:

A colleague of mine is working with RedHat Linux on
an Intel platform, trying to enable the XA interface in
Oracle 8.0.5.  The application compiles and links fine,
but when trying to start it, he gets an xa-trace-file
("xa_NULL062199.trc") with this information:

==============================================
ORACLE XA: Version 8.0.5.0.0 RM name=Oracle-XA

161134.776.0:

ORA-00942: table or view does not exist

161137.778.0:
xaorecover: xaofetch rtn -3.
==============================================

He has installed the necessary xa-views on his Oracle
instance (running XAVIEW.SQL script) and has granted
ALL privileges to those views.  It works OK on DEC-Unix
or Sun-Solaris.

Has anybody tested this feature using Linux (Intel platform)?

Thanks,
Wayne Scott
BEA Systems, Inc. -- http://www.beasys.com/
OpenVMS Porting Team
http://www.beasys.com/action/press/press121.htm

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From: Vic Mortelmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: go back and forward in directory tree
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 19:48:34 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

Is there (preferrably in bash) a way to browse the directory tree like
you do with webpages? I mean going back to the previously visited
directory,...

I remember vaguely having read about something like this and it will
probably be a very simple command... but I can't find it. I'm not even
sure it had to do with bash or even linux.

-- 

Groeten,

Vic

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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** has anybody seen my 'soffice' file? I've lost it during installation
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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FSCK and FS check forced....
Date: 23 Jun 1999 03:38:29 GMT

I forgot to ask this:
You're connected to the internet when your Linux freezes? More, you're on
IRC? The kernel shipped with RedHat 6.0 (and all 2.2.X up to 2.2.9) have a
bug allowing any person to crash your box.

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|Contact - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]|
|Tel: +55-21-620-7173 (Brazil) Site: http://olympiquedemarseille.org/    |
|IRC: uptime!pedophile@* | This tagline is for the idiot who say WHAT?   |
|Frames, Javascript, mail with HTML, Spam and the idiot -> /dev/null     |

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From: jeepgal98 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Looking for Driver SiS 530
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 23:48:03 -0400

Does anyone know where I can find the driver for a video card SiS 530?

Thanks,

-Janice


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SIOCADDRT: Operation not supported by device
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 18:13:43 GMT

Hi all,
I am running RH 5.2 with a scsi hardrive..
Has any body seen this error before,
I have just started getting it about every other day..
it gets printed on the screen at the console
I cannot find any reference to it in var/log/messages
somebody give me a hint please..
thanks 
Tim

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From: Jeffrey Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Group and users    Is this right
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:07:51 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I recently ran into this problem awhile ago. I was installing a package
(Stampede slp package) after installing the package I tried logging in
as a user and couldn't because the /usr had the uid/gid changed to a
numeric numbers 575/51. I had to go in and manually change it back to
the normal setting. I asked around and was told be a few individuals
that who ever made the package (slp) had those changes to his system
when building the package.

After I had changed the /usr back to the original setting I tried it
again, and once again it had changed it to 575/51, it had also changed
/usr/doc to the same setting (575/51). Why this is so, I have now idea.

Perhaps you have installed a pre built rpm package with the same uid/gid
problem.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have not examined my system for a while, but
> while i was look at some of the files i noticed
> something i have not seen before...
> On My system the user and group names associated with the files have
> been changed to numerical values..
> I only have a few users on my system and do not recognize these
> numbers..
> ex:
> the root directory
> drwxr-xr-x  33  1000  1000      4096  june23 0:1:23  root
> other values are 1272 2112
> has anybody seen this before or has this system been compromised??
> RH 5.2
>
> thank you
> Tim

--
Jeffrey A. Bell         icq # 41684113
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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (was: Depoliticising the 
argument (was: The End of Free Software))
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:52:40 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Christiansen  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The Linux distributions have historically been shoddy in many ways,
>not least of all in their installations.  Balkanization will foster
>competition, which will provide the impetus for improvement.  We hope.

We certainly do.  It took me a few tries to get LinuxPPC to load; I ended
up having to use the RedHat installer, since the "native" one mounted the
CD as '/mnt/cdrom', and wanted you to, *after* that was done, mount the target
filesystem as '/mnt'.  Do the math.  :)

>I'm tired of biting that bullet.  I'm running a half dozen different
>systems these days.  SuSE is less annoying than RedHat -- but that's
>not saying much.  It's still not as half as nice an experience as BSD.

Similar experience here.  NetBSD's install was pretty awful around version 0.7
or 0.8, but I've been really happy with the 1.4 installer.

-s
-- 
Copyright 1999, All rights reserved.  Peter Seebach / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
C/Unix wizard, Pro-commerce radical, Spam fighter.  Boycott Spamazon!
Will work for interesting hardware.  http://www.plethora.net/~seebs/
Visit my new ISP <URL:http://www.plethora.net/> --- More Net, Less Spam!

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From: "Prasanth Kumar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD player - no sound
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:01:40 GMT

Make sure the sound mixer is set to a reasonable volume for the CD input.

Andrey Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7ksd4p$rpn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I've successfully configurd my sound card (AWE32) using sndconfig and
> played various audio files through it.  However, when I try to run CD
> player and play a CD there is no sound.  Why would that happen?  What
> device does cd player tries to use?
>
> -Andrey
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.



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From: "Ferdinand V. Mendoza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: WIN95 -> Linux box on Serial port!
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 08:33:14 +0400

I assume that you'll be using a  null modem.
Read the appropriate HOW TO's for details.
In your /etc/inittab file insert the following:

S0:2345:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -r -i /etc/myissue -s 115200 ttyS0

(Replace the Sx instance of your own port choice.)

I'm using Mandrake 5.3 so take note of the mgetty on the line above.
Your's may vary. Also, you can create a customised message on the
myissue file. This is the message that will greet you before the log-in
prompt.
Once you've done that, issue the command on the Linux box:

# /sbin/init q

That will re-read your /etc/inittab file.
If your connections are working, then on the Windows side you can
use the hyperterminal app under accessories. Select the proper bit
rate that would match with your entry in the /etc/inittab file. Also, I
would assume that you will use the full harware handshake of your
null modem. Try to connect and you should see the greeting message
you created earlier (/etc/myissue) and the login prompt. You can also
try to transfer a file from your Win environment by simply sending
it ( it should be there on one of the menus) once you have a succesful
login.
I must warn you the security ramifications of these since anyone
with a notebook PC can stick in a null cable on the same port you are
using and play his luck when you're not around -so be careful.
Hope this helps.

Ferdinand



Nicholas E Couchman wrote:

> How did you get the Wintel box to connect?  I think I can get getty
> going on my Linux box, I just need to know what to do on my Windows
> computer.
> --Nick




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From: "Scott MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft 
Retest News
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:17:56 -0300


Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7krc2d$jsc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> > Stuart Fox wrote:
> > >
> > > Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > > What if you do not have an NT server/PDC?  I guess you are telling
me
> I
> > > > must have an all Micros~1 solution for things to work properly.
> > >
> > > Create a local policy file, throw it in C:\windows for all machines.
> >
> > Unmanageable.
>
> Are you telling me that Samba couldn't do this?
>
>

Samba shouldn't have to do this, that is the point.



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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:29:30 -0400
From:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MPEG I vs II

What are the differences between MPEG I and MPEG II?
I'm trying to choose between two laptops and would
like to know if I get the one that supports MPEG I
instead of II, would I be severely limited by it?
I plan to use the DVD players mostly to view movies.

--Greg




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (L J Bayuk)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: lpd setup problem
Date: 24 Jun 1999 00:34:14 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I've got an lpd problem.  I've got the lp kernel module installed and
>can successfully cat a text file to /dev/lp0.  I've set up the printcap
>file several different times, this last time using the apsfilter
>utility.  
>
>When I run lpr <filename> the print queue shows a new print job, then
>eventually it indicates "no entries" as if the job were printed, except
>nothing gets printed.  And the printer itself indicates nothing is
>trying to print.  When I remove the "if=" line from the printcap file, I
>can successfully print via lpr.  Even if the "if" filter is the simple
>perl script found in the Printer Howto to eliminate the staircase
>effect, the printer never prints.  Once again, if I remove the "if="
>line from the printcap, it will print the file, though with the
>staircase.  I *can* cat the file to /dev/lp0, piping it first through
>the perl script filter, and it prints successfully and correctly. 
>
>The whole problem seems to have something to do with the filter files. 
>Does anyone know what the problem may be?

Could be the same as that other guy I just answered - I think
his was permissions on the filter or directory it was in. Did you
check the system log (syslog or messages) for an lpd message
about failure to execv the filter?

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From: "chnrxn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD player - no sound
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:38:41 +0800

Also make sure that your CDROM is connected to the sound card with an audio
cable.

> Make sure the sound mixer is set to a reasonable volume for the CD input.

You can use aumix to change the mixer settings.

> > I've successfully configurd my sound card (AWE32) using sndconfig and
> > played various audio files through it.  However, when I try to run CD
> > player and play a CD there is no sound.  Why would that happen?  What
> > device does cd player tries to use?




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Subject: Re: Increasing size of swap partition
Date: 24 Jun 1999 04:23:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[posted and emailed]
Christian Ahkman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I just upgraded my RAM and want to increase the size of my swap
>partition.  I have 200 mb of unpartitioned free space on my drive.
>How do I increase the size of swap?

You state that as if there is a connection between having more
RAM and needing more swap.  The opposite is true.  The question
is how much virtual memory do you need to be sure that the
system never crashes due to a lack of memory.  Then you figure
out how much RAM you can afford, and subtract that number from
the needed virtual memory requirement.  The result is how much
swap space you need.  (Of course, since disk space is so cheap
these days I personally would multiply what you think you need
by at least 2 times, just for fun.)

Clearly if your past usage is not changing, then adding RAM will
actually reduce your need for swap space.

(Of course, as soon as you add RAM you will discover some memory
hog way of using the box that will grab all of the new RAM and
maybe even all of the swap space too, requiring that you spend
next weeks food budget on even more RAM, but...)

Anyway, if you put the extra 200 mb of space into another
partition, you can then set it up as a second swap file to be
used along with the first one.  You have to run mkswap on it,
and then add it to /etc/fstab in the same way that your other
swap space is shown.

Then you want to first run swapon to add it, and then reboot
to verify that it does get used when the machine boots.

You do want to read the man pages on the programs and files
mentioned too!

  Floyd

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
     North Slope images: <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>

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From: David Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Remote console - Re: Remote fsck possible for Linux?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 06:11:02 GMT

This question is nothing to do with fsck in particular - what you want
is a remote console server. There are three parts to this:

1. Connecting from your terminal to the console server

PCanywhere is a bodge - Unix (and Linux) have *proper* support for
remote access, with telnet and X11, so that's that part taken care of.

2. Connecting out from the console server on a serial port

To connect out from a serial port, you need to use something like "cu"
or "minicom" - the latter is better suited to a modem, so I guess "cu"
is your man.

3. Getting the big server to use a serial port as its console

You then configure your server to use the serial port as its console.
Headless (i.e. video-card-less Solaris machines do this automatically;
if you want to run an Intel x86 Linux server with a serial port as its
console (as opposed to the first VGA card) I think it requires a kernel
reconfig. Do a deja.com search for "headless Linux".

Alternative:

For something a bit more sophisticated, instead of using see if you can
get hold of NCSA's spp-console, as used by HP for their Convex V-Class
servers. This has nice features like allowing multiple telnet'ed in
users to view the same console, with only one having the "keyboard" at
any time (with a "keyboard steal" option) and so on. The V-Class ships
with an HP715 workstation instead of a dumb terminal for a console, so
you can telnet in and reboot the V-Class from the comfort of your own
Linux box ;-)

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