Linux-Misc Digest #765, Volume #18 Tue, 26 Jan 99 06:13:11 EST
Contents:
All systems go! (Cmdr_Joe)
How I would like to mangle my filesystem... (Logan)
Redhat 5.2 & MP3 (Cai Yu)
Suppressing named messages.. (Enkidu)
Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: (Symbolic) Links (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (dan williams)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (David H. McCoy)
Re: How Serialized is the Linux Filesystem? (Warren Jones)
Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code (Bill Unruh)
Is anyone interested in Linux drivers for Dialogic boards? Tell Dialogic...
("Gregory S. Youngblood")
Partitions - and a bug with "df -k"? ("Will Brickles")
Re: Lilo boot disk ("Wael Sedky")
Re: Humor: "Your Opinion of MS?" Urinal Mat (Jeff Seeger)
Re: How to start Apache at bootup? (Glenn Butcher)
Anyone interested in the game Axia for linux? (Wildcard Design Incorporated)
Re: 2038 and Linux (Balloo)
wu-ftpd banner message? (Chuan Wee)
Re: LILO destroys everything! ("Ron van Middendorp")
Re: HELP RH5.2 and 2.2.0-final ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cmdr_Joe)
Subject: All systems go!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:15:37 GMT
Okay, it sounds like my system will run Redhat 5.2 (Need a new modem
though). So, besides going out and buying an expensive book, does
anyone know of a reliable, good online text on the step by step
instructions on how to install RedHat 5.2? I really don't want to
search for one, because I am not sure if it will be good or not. I
have yet to receive the CD, but will there be a text that I can use
that is included on the CD?
Thanks!
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some day you'll be right"
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 03:26:23 +0000
From: Logan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How I would like to mangle my filesystem...
Forgive the length of this post...
I currently have / on /dev/hdb1.
What I would like to do is use the "ex's" M$ hard drive which is
/dev/hda1
What I want to do is the following:
1. use fdisk and erradicate the remains of M$ from my machine and make a
ext2 and a 32M swap space partition.
2. run lilo to revamp the MBR.
3. move "mv" /usr to the ext2 partion to /dev/hda1
4. fix my fstab to reflect the above changes.
5. umount and remount and swapon the above.
Will this work?
Post or E-mail response. Remove SPAM to E-mail
Thanks in advance
Logan
--
Linux Kernel 2.0.32 on a i486/100Mhz
5:17pm up 37 days, 45 min, 3 users, load average: 0.19, 0.13, 0.05
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From: Cai Yu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Redhat 5.2 & MP3
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 15:10:31 +0800
Hi :
I have Redhat 5.2 (Apollo) on my AMD-K6 233 PC with ESS 1868 PnP sound card .
Everytime when I start to play mp3 files using mpg123 or xaudio(
http://www.xaudio.com ), it suddenly stop and keyboard is locked also , I have
to reboot my machine . It can play CD very well .
It is also strange that it worked very well on Redhat 5.1 before .
Is it the problem in kernel , device or library ?
Regards/Cai
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From: Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Suppressing named messages..
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:08:42 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Would the kind person who posted on how to suppress the named
messages please repost? Thanks! I've read the docs, but I'm
obviously missing something. (A brain cell or three?) No
debugging is switched on in named.
Cliff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PPP is driving me crazy !!!! Plese help me
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:47:58 GMT
In article <78jcmt$r9j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi everybody, I've been trying to set up a PPP connection,
> > but it doesn't work.
> >
> > I think I read all the documentation I found 10 times and nothing seems
> > to work, so if you can help me, I'd really appreciate it.
> >
> > This is how it goes:
> > I use EZPPP to connnect, it dials the number, sends the right login and
> > password, the server starts the ppp connection ( i see all those symbols
> > like {{())
> > and everything seems to be fine, but it doesn't work!!
> >
> > this is the output of ifconfig:
> >
> > lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Bcast:127.255.255.255 Mask:255.0.0.0
> > UP BROADCAST LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:3584 Metric:1
> > RX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
> > TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
> >
> > ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
> > inet addr:195.223.189.119 P-t-P:151.99.104.178 Mask:255.255.255.0
> > UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING MTU:552 Metric:1
> > RX packets:109 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
> > TX packets:111 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
> >
> > ping with 195.223.189.119 works fine while ping with 151.99.104.178
> > doesn't work at all!!!
> >
> > this is the output of netstat -nr
> >
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt
> > Iface
> > 127.0.0.1 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 3584 0 0
> > lo
> > 151.99.104.178 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 552 0 0
> > ppp0
> > 195.223.189.119 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 3584 0 0
> > lo
> > 127.0.0.0 - 255.0.0.0 ! - - -
> > -
> > 0.0.0.0 151.99.104.178 0.0.0.0 UG 552 0 0
> > ppp0
> >
> > this is my ppp option file
> >
> > # /etc/ppp/options (NO PAP/CHAP)
> > #
> > # Prevent pppd from forking into the background
> > -detach
> > #
> > # use the modem control lines
> > modem
> > # use uucp style locks to ensure exclusive access to the serial device
> > lock
> > # use hardware flow control
> > crtscts
> > # create a default route NOT for this connection in the routing table
> > noipdefault
> > # do NOT set up any "escaped" control sequences
> > asyncmap 0
> > # use a maximum transmission packet size of 552 bytes
> > mtu 552
> > # use a maximum receive packet size of 552 bytes
> > mru 552
> > defaultroute
> >
> > this is my /etc/hosts file:
> > 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
> >
> > and this is the /etc/resolv.conf:
> > search crown-net.com
> > nameserver 151.99.104.178
> >
> > I really don't know about the nameserver, my ISP never gave me that number.
> > I figured out that was the server number because it's the one that always
> comes
> > out
> > when I connect, but that never asnwers to ping.
> >
> > I'll REALLY appreciate any help.
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Giovanni Chierico
> >
> >
>
> XISP is easier...............
>
> :)
>
It wont help a bit. I was in the same situtation when I first switched to
Linux. Although I read all the documentation and everything seemed fine (so
though others too) i would get the same problem as you do. Connect and then
being unable to do anything with the connection. I believe its their server.
The one I was using wouldn't work under NT either only under windows 95. I
never understood what the problems was but I got tired of tech support and
their "We dont support Linux" or worst "I am sorry we don't support win 3.1
or dos". I just switched to another provider and lived happily ever after.
And by the way if you had looked at http://www.crown-net.com/config.htm you
would have found out that the nameserver is 194.184.44.10. Sure enough
connecting to their ftp server reveals Connected to mail.crown-net.com. 220
poly-alpha21164 Microsoft FTP Service (Version 3.0). Yeh that was absolutely
unexpected.
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Subject: Re: (Symbolic) Links
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 26 Jan 1999 00:07:56 -0500
"J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - hardlinks do not work for directories, softlinks do
this is simply not true. hardlinks *do* work for directories.
furthermore, *every* directory has at least two hardlinks.
for example take the directory /tmp. assume it's empty. there are
`/tmp' and `/tmp/.' which makes two links. root `/' has `/.' and
`/..' so even on an empty filesystem it still has two.
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Johan Kullstam [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Don't Fear the Penguin!
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From: dan williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:13:43 -0800
Frank Sweetser wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve
> > mcadams) wrote:
> > >>Hell, if MS is so powerful, why fight? The are clearly about the take
> > >>command of the Earth.
> > >
-snip-
bill is not as powerfull as a world of public programmers.. were
clobbering him and he knows it
talking about insane programmers, anyone know where I should plug in my
colour mouse cursor code into X???
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David H. McCoy)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 18:35:12 -0500
In article <78g4p9$c9q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>In article <e$dtm$7R#GA.229@upnetnews03>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>>
>>Maybe this would be a good way to find enough programmers to fix the Y2K
>>problems in Linux.
>
>There aren't really any Y2K problems in Linux, this Y2K nonsense for the PC
>is mostly a problem for software that runs under MickySoft created
>operating systems....
>
>
>
Right. The entire world is working to fix mainframes because of MS. Why
not blame MS for all the ills that have plagued the world since the birth
of mankind?
--
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David H. McCoy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Jones)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How Serialized is the Linux Filesystem?
Date: 25 Jan 1999 13:51:42 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Warren Jones)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Q: If the same user runs several independent processes that write and
> read files on a harddisk: what errors may occur in the worst case?
If the processes don't cooperate, your files may be corrupted.
> Q: If only one process writes, the other processes read files,
> ist the situation different?
If the processes don't cooperate, the reading process may
find the file in an inconsistent state.
> Q: Are there any simple locking mechanisms which can make
> such unsynchrized processes save?
Yes. Advisory locking is the most common solution, but there is
also some support for mandatory locking. For more information,
see "man flock", "man fcntl", or:
http://www.ssc.com/cgi-bin/linux/man.cgi?mode=search&comm=fcntl
http://www.ssc.com/cgi-bin/linux/man.cgi?mode=search&comm=flock
You may also want to take at look at these files:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/locks.txt
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/mandatory.txt
====================================================================
Warren Jones | To keep every cog and wheel is the first
Fluke Corporation | precaution of intelligent tinkering.
Everett, Washington, USA | -- Aldo Leopold
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Criminally Insane Programmers Are Attracted To Open Source Code
Date: 24 Jan 1999 23:22:24 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jim Frost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> There are no Y2K problems in Linux (Y2038 probs yes, but that is
>> another story...)
>Yea but we've worked through that on other UNIXen by expanding time_t to a
>64-bit int. Problem solved for a couple gazillion years.
And now if only we could persude programmers to use time_t rather than
int for their time variables!
Just because there is a way for programmers not to do something stupid
does not mean that they will use that way.
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From: "Gregory S. Youngblood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is anyone interested in Linux drivers for Dialogic boards? Tell Dialogic...
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 14:34:55 -0600
Dialogic, one of the leading Computer Telephony hardware vendors, is trying
to ascertain the amount of interest in Linux drivers for their hardware.
The survey is at http://www.linuxtelephony.org/dialogic_survey.htm and will
be closed sometime on January 29, 1999.
In the past, for at least the two to three years I have been trying,
Dialogic has always responded with "there are no plans to support Linux"
when asked for drivers or support. Requests from several customers for the
specs so that others could write the drivers were turned down, even when
offers to develop under NDA and return the results to Dialogic for
distribution were given.
Around January 10th, a Dialogic person asked a few questions to determine
how many people and/or companies were interested in Linux drivers for their
hardware. I have posted these questions at
http://www.linuxtelephony.org/dialogic_survey.htm.
If you are interested in Computer Telephony using Linux, and would like to
see Dialogic drivers for Linux, then please take a few seconds to fill out
and submit this survey. The results are sent directly to the person
requesting the information. In addition, at the completion of the survey,
the results will be published in a report and given to several others in
Dialogic.
Right now, the survey is scheduled to end on January 29.
Thank you,
Gregory S. Youngblood
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From: "Will Brickles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partitions - and a bug with "df -k"?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 15:31:54 -0500
Hi all,
I'm a little bit of a Linux newbie, but not a total buffoon, however, I'm
stumped by one problem.
I've now installed Red Hat 5.2 twice and both times have had the same quirk
pop-up.
When using Disk Druid and fdisk, I partition my 8.4Gig hard drive so that I
have
hdb6 - 100M - /
hdb7 - 1500M - /usr
hdb8 - 500M - /home
hdb9 - 127M - swap
Well, that's all fine and dandy, and when I run linuxconf, that's what is
reported. However, when I run "df -k", it reports that "/" is mounted on
the 1500M drive (at 2% capacity), /usr is mounted on the 500M drive (at 47%
capacity) and "/home" is mounted on the 100M drive (at 14% capacity).
Obviously, something is wrong. I'm hoping it's a bug with "df", but I'm not
sure. Can anyone help me out with this?
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]*>
Subject: Re: Lilo boot disk
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:08:00 -0800
Actually, it is "setup" then "configure"
but I will try other suggestions mentioned here
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From: Jeff Seeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.sun.misc,alt.fan.bill-gates,alt.news.microsoft
Subject: Re: Humor: "Your Opinion of MS?" Urinal Mat
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:14:04 -0500
Steve Kremer wrote:
>
> For perhaps a laugh....
>
> The new "Your Opinion of Microsoft?" Plastic Urinal Mat. Get you desktop
> wallpaper in all sizes from 640x480 to 1280x1024. Plus it's FREE!
>
Hmmm. Shouldn't there be an 1152x900?
(this coming from comp.sys.sun.misc, of course ;)
--
Jeff Seeger
address wrenched, you know the drill
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From: Glenn Butcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to start Apache at bootup?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:04:59 -0800
run it in one of the rc. scripts
Glenn Butcher
Phil Obbard wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I've got Apache installed successfully on my Redhat 5.1 box. I'd like to
> get it starting when my Linux box boots - what do I need to do in order
> to make that happen?
>
> Thanks,
> Philip
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From: Wildcard Design Incorporated <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone interested in the game Axia for linux?
Date: 26 Jan 1999 08:26:00 GMT
We are considering porting one of our games (Axia) to linux if there is
enough interest in it at the DOS price. (See http://www.buydirect.com/
and click on 'Games'. Axia is currently #5.) If there is enough
demand for it, we will look into porting.
Please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you'd like to see it on
linux. (Take a look at http://www.wcdesign.com/products/axia.html for
some screenshots, or download the BeOS or DOS demo to take a look at how
it plays.) Please do not reply to this post, as it most likely will not
be received.
Thanks,
John Delamore
VP of Product Development
Wildcard Design, Inc.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Balloo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: 2038 and Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 10:28:36 GMT
Steve Peltz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribi� en art�culo:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I got it to about 587 million years ...
>
> No, it's more like 58,454 years.
Goddamned slide rules.
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benjamin d. capoeman jelliebun's dainty ursine of delight
http://www.blarg.net/~balloo balloo at penis dot com
mhm 15x1 wsd10 empire of meow order of the greasy sombrero
solidly smeetered alt.alien.vampire.flonk.flonk.flonk
"I doubt so. I'm not liar. I am superior to you. "
-Matthew Kaidor, usenet simpleton, in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:25:56 +0800
From: Chuan Wee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: wu-ftpd banner message?
Hi,
I am trying to setup wu-ftpd to display a message after the user logs in for
ftp.
According to the man on ftpaccess, I should just alter the welcome.msg file in
ftpaccess.
message /welcome.msg LOGIN
But when the user logs in, he does not see the new message.
Could anyone tell me where is this welcome.msg file stored at??
I was trying out the banner message too and it doesn't work as well :-(
Do I need to restart inetd?
Thanks for any clue to this problem....
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From: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO destroys everything!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:38:07 +0100
Reply-To: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
NO!
Fdisk /mbr
Jerry Lynn Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Bernd J�nichen wrote:
>>
>> HELP!
>> I've installed Linux and I've installed LILO, too. Normally, LILO
overites
>> the MBR of the first harddisk and creates a new partition for itself in
the
>> extended Partition. But I had no extenden partition, when I installed
LILO,
>> so it installed itself into my second primary partition. Since this
happens,
>> I couldn't access the data on this partition. I thought, it was an
>> incompatiblity between Linux and MS Windows 98, so I killed Linux by
>> Partition Magic. Now I cannot uninstall LILO. But I need my data!!
>>
>> Who can help me?
>
>FORMAT /MBR
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: HELP RH5.2 and 2.2.0-final
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 09:38:39 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jack Marriette) wrote:
> Need some help getting 2.2.0-final running properly on my RH5.2
> system. I have downloaded the sources and the kernel compiles without
> any problems. It loads up with the following error message in
> /var/log/messages:
>
> klogd 1.3-3, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
> Jan 25 16:03:33 titan kernel: Cannot find map file.
> Jan 25 16:03:33 titan kernel: Error seeking in /dev/kmem
> Jan 25 16:03:33 titan kernel: Error adding kernel module table entry.
Ok. I've just downloaded and installed the 2.2 kernel also, and have half
the problem you are describing. If you update your sysklogd (I'm running
1.3-26) the first two lines will come right - the kernel should load the
module symbols and you'll then have modules working perfectly. You can get
sysklogd from ftp://rawhide.redhat.com ; the best way to do this is to
download the .src.rpm file and do an rpm --rebuild sysklogd-1.36 (or whatever
the filename is) on the file you download. Then install the binary as per
normal from /usr/src/redhat/RPMS/i386
I'm also experiencing the same problems as you on the second two lines and
haven't found a fix for that yet. I don't however notice any problems with
my system. The only thing I can't upgrade as per the Documentation/Changes
file is my util-linux rpm - when I last installed this I could no longer log
on. This util-linux update may be all I need <shrug> Now I cannot rebuild
the binary of this set of programs from the source. I'm guessing there's
something else I need to update or install for this to work :>
Hope this helps solve your problems. I know it's awkward to get every little
thing going 100% with no errors sometimes :)
Reuben
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