Linux-Misc Digest #777, Volume #20 Thu, 24 Jun 99 21:13:12 EDT
Contents:
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Jason O'Rourke)
Re: Apache not serving web pages (Benjamin John)
Re: CPU temp readings? (Belgarion)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Tom Christiansen)
CDRwith Xcdroast ("John E. Hagensieker")
Re: NT the best web platform? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: partition size not correct ("Fr�d�ric Dupas")
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Belgarion)
[HELP] Acer CRW-6206A and XcdRoast (Robert Young)
Re: Where can I get free Linux CD? (Christopher Browne)
Urgent: dvips error, and I NEED to print today! (Chuck Cusack)
What about USB in Linux? ("Mauro Goretti")
Re: BIOS problems!
Re: named pukes occasionally (yan seiner)
Re: Certain Differences: RH vs. Debian (Christopher Browne)
Re: mod_auth_mysql/DSO: httpd cannot load, undefined symbol __ucmpdi2 (Ron Klatchko)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Chris Costello)
The wonderful Linux community (Uri Kerbel)
Java can't find font (Steven)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Belgarion)
Matrox G200 + XF86 problem (Steve Evans)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason O'Rourke)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:23:27 -0700
Terry Carmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>While it's very easy to bash NT and come up with amazing statistics
>supporting either operating system, I should mention that NT is very
>stable if you do a proper install on certified hardware and don't load
>it up with a bunch of crap.
What the heck is certified hardware? Is a HP Kayak workstation certified?
I gave up trying to reinstall NT as a dual boot option. By the time I
installed SP3, it would panic on bootup. And I didn't even get to the
point where I'd load it up with crap. So it's back to freebsd - I reboot
when we have a power failure. And my web services have been running
nonstop in the background while I run all sorts of crap (starting with
netscape).
>Modifying the kernel under Linux requires a recompile. Modifying core
>NT components requires nothing more than leaving a DLL where the OS
>can find it.
Of course you need to recompile. But it isn't that hard. And when
installing software, it's pretty rare that you need to reboot afterwards,
or have to shutdown every other process during the install.
--
Jason O'Rourke [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jor.com
'96 BMW r850R
last dive: June 13th, Pescadero Wash Rocks (Carmel), 46 mins at 64ft max
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From: Benjamin John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Apache not serving web pages
Date: 24 Jun 1999 15:47:42 PDT
if you installed apache, thats all you need for serving webpages
http://localhost
should bring up your page
which by default on RH 6.0 i think is in /home/httpd/html
offcourse you have a lotta reading to to.
editing your httpd.conf
and reading docs at http://apache.org
Lord Byron wrote:
> I recently tried to set up an old computer as a web server, using Linux and
> Apache. It has limited hard drive space (1 gig), and I don't plan on using
> it for anything besides the web serving, so I don't want a full-blown
> installation of Linux (Mandrake 6 is what I use). I tried installing it
> with just the base stuff and apache, but that didn't work. httpd is
> running, but I'm not able to access the documents from any computer. Can
> someone tell me the minimum stuff I need to install to get apache running.
> Thanks.
> --
> Byron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Belgarion)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: CPU temp readings?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:58:49 PST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Moseman wrote:
>
>I am running a new ASUS P5A motherboard with AMD K6-2 400 CPU. I have been
>having temperature problems due to case cooling design and the way in which
>I have my current computers laid out (very close in proximity).
>
>I was wondering if there was a Linux utility that I could read my CPU and MB
>temperatures without having to reboot to the BIOS? Maybe even a nice X
>program to keep it graphical under my KDE.
>
There are tons of programs like this. Go to your favorite
software site (freshmeat, linuxberg, etc), and search for "lm78".
You're sure to find something.
--
Erik Hollensbe/AKA Belgarion
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
remove "admin" and "127.0.0.1" to reply via email
"I'm sick of limiting myself, to meet your definition..." - Incubus, "Redefine"
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 24 Jun 1999 17:32:20 -0700
As I said privately to John Girash, there's something broken about the
Linux mentality that says that undocumented programs are acceptable.
And programs whose documentation is available only through a GUI are
undocumented.
--tom
--
"Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the
grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin
charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about
what they say if they had." -- Linus Torvalds
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From: "John E. Hagensieker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CDRwith Xcdroast
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 08:38:49 +0900
Under RH 5.2 I was able to emulate SCSI and use both my IDE CD rom (Sony)
and my CDR(also IDE) as "SCSI" devices and XCDRoast performed flawlessly.
Now since I have installed RH 6.0 I cannot get the IDE Sony drive to emulate
SCSI. The CDR works fine and will copy data files from the IDE drive but
not audio files. I added the line
append="hdc=ide-scsi" to my lilo.conf file for the cd and that works fine,
and even substituted "b" for the Sony drive but it will still not emulate
SCSI.
Would appreciate any help I can get.
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: 24 Jun 1999 23:41:37 GMT
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 17:48:54 +0100, John Hughes wrote:
>There are numerous benchmarks showing NT to be faster. Where are the Linux
>ones?
(a) The recent PC Week benchmark showed linux/SAMBA beating NT at serving NT
clients.
(b) An older PC Week benchmark on cheaper hardware showed linux/SAMBA doing
better
(c) Who cares anyway ? Benchmarking static server performance is pointless.
If anyone cared about the *speed* of webservers, Apache would not be the
MARKET LEADER. Apache is much slower than other UNIX webservers, but it
is still the most popular because of its functionality, reliability,
and security.
>Apart from mouthing off why doesnt the Linux community get some benchmarks
The linux community isn't in the business of performing sleazy stunts such
as the Mindcraft fiasco. *Regardless* of of what the linux community do,
independent industry observers ( such as PC Week ) will continue to perform
benchmarks. The kernel developers are doing the right thing by doing what they
can to make sure that linux performs, rather than buying into sleazy
publicity stunts.
--
Donovan
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From: "Fr�d�ric Dupas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition size not correct
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:31:43 +0200
Ryan McGuigan wrote:
>
> Hi, I seem to be having a weird problem. I partitioned my drive so that
> my ext2 partition is 5.5 gigs. I even specified +5500M when I partitioned
> it, so I didn't fsck up the size... After formatting it, df says that the
> partition is 11 gigs... What would cause this? Other than that it's
> working fine, but I'm worried about what it will do when it runs out of
> space but thinks it still has space left...
>
> thanks,
> Ryan
May be df speaks in block of 512-byte on your system :
========== begin of quotation ============
Disk space is shown in 1024-byte blocks by default, unless the
environment variable `POSIXLY_CORRECT' is set, in which case 512-byte
blocks are used (unless the `-k' option is given).
========== end of quotation ============
In that case, it is fine, because 11000/2 = 5500
That's sound good for me. I used to have size in 512-byte in various
unix system.
I think you don't need to worry, but you can verify to be sure.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Belgarion)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:56:11 PST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Terry Carmen wrote:
>On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:01:31 +0000, yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I changed from NT server to Linux server 6 months ago. I achieved 99.8%
>>uptime in the last 6 months; the one time the system was unavailable
>>(for 3 hours - I was out of town) was due to the fact that I screwed up
>>the hosts file. This on a budget of $0 and a total time of maybe 40
>>hours.
>>
>>The NT installation prior to that would crash regularly. I took to
>>rebooting it every weekend, and sometimes it would not come up. (I
>>blame most of this on R&RAS, which is the worst POS I've ever seen in a
>>production environment. I've seen alpha stuff that is more stable and
>>better documented.)
>
>While it's very easy to bash NT and come up with amazing statistics
>supporting either operating system, I should mention that NT is very
>stable if you do a proper install on certified hardware and don't load
>it up with a bunch of crap.
Certified hardware? Bah. I like my off-brand motherboards that
work just fine with linux.
And if I want 8 gigs of userspace programs, why can I have it?
Under NT, that requires that I slap a few more 128MB sticks in the
machine so that it can handle the overbloated registry that has to be
in memory 100% of the time.
>If you take NT certified hardware, install NT, the web server of your
>choice and a recent service pack, then log off and walk away from the
>console, it will run quite nicely for a very long time.
Anyone can do this with any operating system and garner the
same results. Big fscking deal. I could run a webserver under MacOS
under your conditions and get the same results.
>The biggest reason NT has less uptime is mostly because people can't
>resist installing all sorts of new software that may or may not leak
>resources, and may or may not replace core OS components with versions
>that are either incompatible or buggy.
Because of the registry, and because of all those little DLL's
(which i'm getting to) that each and every program insists on having a
different version of, because everytime you install a new Microsoft
program it has to overwrite all the system-centric ones with new
versions fit to run it's programs properly.
At least I know that my programs (worst case) are going to work
with 1 of 2 versions of libc, and have a high chance of being modified
to work with any new revisions of said libraries.
Oh yeah, and my registry editor can be "vi", "emacs", "jed",
"fte"... Well, you get the idea.
>Modifying the kernel under Linux requires a recompile. Modifying core
>NT components requires nothing more than leaving a DLL where the OS
>can find it.
This is a *GOOD* thing. Not to mention, are you familiar with
kernel modules? They work just like your little dll's, but you actually
have to tell the kernel to USE them, something even you have to admit
is more secure.
(yeah, i've had a lot of caffiene and i'm being a condescending
dickhead. so what)
Either way. no version of windows can achieve an uptime of 50
days. Unless this has been fixed VERY recently, Microsoft themselves
admits this.
My server has been up for 45 days, with load averages in teh
2.5 range (P200/64MB SDRAM serves XDMCP for 3 machines :). My *desktop*
machine has been up for 34 days now.
NT has it's uses. It's great for people who need what NT
(or any NOS) offers but don't want to spend the time to learn what's
powering it. It's also good for the hobbyist who wants a clean,
integrated interface, for something like a desktop, and also wants to
run some daemons in the background.
It never has been, and never WILL be, something that people can
rely on. I still have yet to find an NT admin who, in RL (where people
tend to be a lot more honest IMO), tells me that he trusts his servers
to stay up without constant attention.
--
Erik Hollensbe/AKA Belgarion
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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"I'm sick of limiting myself, to meet your definition..." - Incubus, "Redefine"
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From: Robert Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [HELP] Acer CRW-6206A and XcdRoast
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 20:21:03 -0400
I have just installed an Acer CRW-6206A on my AMD K6-2 400 running RedHat
6.0
Linux. I successfully burnt an audio CD on a CRW media but unable use the
media on my audio system. Does this mean that I have to use CDR media to
burn
an audio CD so that it can be played on an audio system?
Also, after burning the CDRW media, I tried to erase the media to no avail.
Does anyone know how to format or erase a burned CDRW media using cdrecord?
Please kindly e-mail your response. Thanks.
--
Robert Young,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where can I get free Linux CD?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:34:50 GMT
On 24 Jun 1999 21:12:28 GMT, Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In <7ktrn2$ptf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Bob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>>Can anybody tell me where I can order free, or cheap, Linux CDs on the web?
>>I'm a newbie (can't you tell?) who's hungry to get his hands on a disk.
>>Please help. Thanks in advance!
>
>Why would someone send you a free CD? The CDs themselves cost a dollar
>or so. YOu can download it yourself, or you can order one for say $2
>plus shipping from places like www.cheapbytes.com Note some places say
>they will sell you ha free CD and then chanrge $10 for shipping.
A more friendly answer would be to just plain suggest a variety of good
places to go.
a) There are vendors that sell "$2 CDs." They do tend to have
significant S&H charges, so it is certainly cheaper to buy more than
one, or throw in a book, or something of the sort.
<http://www.lsl.com>
<http://www.cheapbytes.com>
<http://www.linuxcentral.com> (whom I should plug; NTLug, my local
users group, prefers them...)
<http://www.linuxmall.com>
b) Find a local Linux users group (LUG).
They often do bulk orders from these vendors, and can thus split that
shipping charge across a rather larger quantity of CDs.
My local group, NTLug, probably gets/resells 50-75 CDs in the average
month in this fashion.
Other LUGs may do similarly; there are several good lists of LUGs:
<"http://www.linux.org/users/">Linux Online - User Groups Around the Globe
<"http://www.nlug.org/webring/">Linux User's Groups Webring
<"http://lugww.nllgg.nl/">LUG list overview
<"http://www.ssc.com/glue/">Groups of Linux Users Everywhere
A further bonus to the LUG approach is that it may permit the new user
to get assistance with questions that may come up.
NTLug has a monthly LIP - "Linux Installation Project," where "seasoned
pros" help novices install Linux...
--
ASSEMBLER is a language. Any language that can take a half-dozen keystrokes
and compile it down to one byte of code is all right in my books. Though
for the REAL programmer, assembler is a waste of time. Why use a compiler
when you can code directly into memory through a front panel.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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From: Chuck Cusack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Urgent: dvips error, and I NEED to print today!
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:40:21 -0500
Occationally when I use dvips it gives me the following error:
This is dvips(k) 5.85 Copyright 1999 Radical Eye Software
(www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 1999.06.24:1925' ->
dvips: xputenv.c:79: xputenv: Assertion `old_item' failed.
lpr: stdin: empty input file
Abort (core dumped)
It only does it with certain files, and no matter what I do--rename the
files,
move them, whatever, I can't get rid of the error.
The other files are fine, just this one isn't.
The error is NOT with the files, but with dvips, I think.
ANY clues?
Chuck.
Please respond directly to me if possible.
Thanks. ((([EMAIL PROTECTED])))
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From: "Mauro Goretti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What about USB in Linux?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:43:30 +0200
I'm searching any news about the compatibility of USB in RH Linux.
Can you help me?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BIOS problems!
Date: 25 Jun 1999 00:31:31 GMT
Ok, if you know the key to hit then that would be the way to go .. or you
could pull the mean trick I used to when they wouldn't let me in. what I'd
do is turn the computer off and then unplug the hard drive then start it
back up with the drive unplugged. After a few seconds you should bet a
primary master disk failure with the option to enter setup ... so while
you're in there "fixing the hard drive settings" you can change anything
else you see fit to...
Ironclaw
Villy Kruse wrote:
>
> In article <7kc648$3q0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Mike,
> >If you deleted the setup partition on the hard drive you're going to
> >have to download the setup stuff from Compaq. If not, just hit delete
> >or is it f10? (it IS one of 'em) as the machine boots. You may get a
> >blinking block in the upper right hand corner that lets you know when to
> >do it.
> >
>
>
> For these system you never install lilo in the MBR but the first linux
> partition and make this the active partition. Otherwise you loose the
> setup program (again).
>
>
> Villy
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From: yan seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: named pukes occasionally
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:40:50 +0000
Thanks. I'll do that.
Yan
Raymonds Doetjes wrote:
>
> Update to the newest bind 8.x version BIND 8 has a history of being not
> 100% stable.
> That's why alot of people still run 4.9 wich is very very stable. (Accept
> you miss a few nice features that bind 8 has).
>
> Raymond
>
> yan seiner wrote:
>
> > I have bind set up running as a caching only nameserver. Periodically,
> > a single entry will become corrupted. Queries return "cannot locate
> > www.xxx.com". All other lookups work fine.
> >
> > Attemps to dump the cache via kill -HUP fail. The only way to clear
> > this up is to kill named and restart.
> >
> > There is nothing in the logs indicating any failure. ANy ideas on
> > what's happening and how to diagnose?
> >
> > I am running Bind 8 on RH 5.2.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Yan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Certain Differences: RH vs. Debian
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:35:11 GMT
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 15:21:12 +0000, Steve D. Perkins
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am looking to very soon wipe my hard drive (except for the
>"/home" partition), and install Debian instead of RedHat. I've
>been reading information about Debian for the past couple of
>weeks, but there are still a couple of questions I am wondering
>about (sorry if either of these sound lame!).
Not overly.
>I notice that Debian binary applications seem to come in "deb" format.
>Of course, 90% of all "binary package versions" for applications you can
>download come in RH's "rpm" format. I was wondering if Debian has any
>means by which to install "rpm" packages, or if I'll just have to get
>used to compiling source for programs I download?
There is a utility called "alien" which can turn binary packages in RPM
form to DEB form. (Doing transitions of RPM<==>DEB<==>TGZ as well.) The
quality of the results varies; it is certainly preferable to have a
"native" package.
*Many* pieces of software have Debian maintainers; it tends to be
preferable to have a 'native' package. One of the points to Debian is
that management of packages is highly distributed. Supposing you
"Debianize" a couple of packages, that adds to the body of work. There
are many people that manage a few packages apiece.
I probably ought to figure out how to build packages and do up a few for
things I use. That would probably be the "death" of my remaining Red
Hat system...
> I'm not sure if "linuxconf" is a linux-thing, or a application
>designed by RedHat... but I've really gotten used to it and love
>using it for mundane tasks. Is it available for Debian, or does
>Debian come with any similar graphical system-management
>utility? How about RH's "setup" program for configuring sound
>cards and so forth, is there any automatic means for doing this
>with Debian?
Linuxconf has been fairly heavily sponsored by Red Hat Software, but is
sufficiently generic by intent that a Debian package has recently been
released. You probably won't find it on a CD, but once you configure
apt (see /etc/apt/), you should be able to request it as an addition.
--
"... psychologists sometimes refer to perception as controlled
hallucination ..." -- B. K. P. Horn 6.866/6.801 Lecture
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linux.html>
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From: Ron Klatchko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.infosystems.www.databases,comp.os.linux,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: mod_auth_mysql/DSO: httpd cannot load, undefined symbol __ucmpdi2
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:49:26 -0700
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote:
> ld -Bshareable -o libauth_mysql.so mod_auth_mysql.o
> -L/usr/lib/mysql -lmysqlclient -lcrypt
>
> this completes successfully, and i get my libauth_mysql.so file.
> - when i attempt to start apache, i get:
>
> Syntax error on line 73 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf:
> Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/libauth_mysql.so into server:
> /etc/httpd/modules/libauth_mysql.so: undefined symbol: __ucmpdi2
gcc can put refernces to internal library functions to perform
functionality that your chips architecture does not directly support. I
don't know if it's the same across all platforms, but on Solaris, its
libgcc.a which can be found in:
PREFIX/lib/gcc-lib/OS/COMPILER_VERSION/
If that library is not present for you, you could also try running gcc
as the linker and allowing it to invoke ld.
moo
======================================================================
Ron Klatchko - Manager, Advanced Technology Group
UCSF Library and Center for Knowledge Management
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chris Costello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:28:43 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Terry Carmen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> While it's very easy to bash NT and come up with amazing statistics
> supporting either operating system, I should mention that NT is very
> stable if you do a proper install on certified hardware and don't load
> it up with a bunch of crap.
On certified hardware? Why do I need to get new certified
hardware instead of running FreeBSD on a high end Alpha or x86
box with pretty much generic (except of course the SCSI and
network interface cards) parts?
> If you take NT certified hardware, install NT, the web server of your
> choice and a recent service pack, then log off and walk away from the
> console, it will run quite nicely for a very long time.
Buy $2000 computer.
Install NT.
Reboot.
Resume install.
Reboot.
Start new install.
Configure networking.
Download 80 MB service pack.
Reboot.
Reboot.
Log off.
Eliminate steps 3, 4 and 6 if you're skilled or lucky.
As opposed to
Buy $700-$1000 computer.
Install FreeBSD (takes 15 minutes for me (of course I
memorized the config program)!)
Reboot.
Setup network services and user accounts.
Config and compile custom kernel.
Reboot.
If on a recent -STABLE install, this will last you a couple
years before you should really update (unless an important 'HEADS
UP' comes along, which is kinda rare).
> The biggest reason NT has less uptime is mostly because people can't
> resist installing all sorts of new software that may or may not leak
Like the security fixes for IIS...
> resources, and may or may not replace core OS components with versions
> that are either incompatible or buggy.
Like service packs...
> Modifying the kernel under Linux requires a recompile. Modifying core
> NT components requires nothing more than leaving a DLL where the OS
> can find it.
Oh no! Compiling puts such a heavy load on a system and the
20 seconds downtime you get when you reboot for the new kernel
can cost you BILLIONS!
> Terry
> "It's much easier to develop software using actual technology, instead of just
>made-up stuff."
--
Chris Costello
Don't hit the keys so hard, it hurts.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Uri Kerbel)
Subject: The wonderful Linux community
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:22:33 GMT
Just a few words to say thanks to all of those who contribute to this
group.
I've just finished updating my kernel for the first time from 2.0.36
to 2.2.9 which is not the easiest task around as there were many
packages/libraries that needed to be updated in the process.
Gratitude is due for all the help received from dedicated
professionals within the Linux community who devote their time to
helping others on Usenet.
Uri Kerbel
--
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:23:06 +0000
From: Steven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Java can't find font
I downloaded the java 1.2 for linux and it seems to work most of the
time but every time I start anything I get a load of error messages
saying that a font specified in font.properties is not found. the exact
message is:
Font specified in font.properties not found [--zapf
dingbats-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific]
I have a hunch that this is causing one of my programs to crash, but it
is still annoying. I can't even find the file font.properties so any
help appreciated.
steve
thanks in advance
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Belgarion)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jun 1999 18:11:25 PST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tom Christiansen wrote:
>The next time I install something that doesn't include manpages, but
>instead provides some dippy [ABOUT] button that tells you absolutely
>nothing about how to use the software in question, or even more
>frustratingly, an endless labyrinth of cascading menus or pop-up screens
>that are simultaneously un-grep-able, un-apropos-able, and un-lpr-able,
>I'm going to track down the author and dump a truckload of encyclopedias
>on his point little head in the hope that he might actually learn how
>to read and write.
>
>If I wanted Microsoft or IBM mainframe rigamarole, I'd know where to
>go--and I chose not to go there. Sometimes on Linux, it's hard to tell
>the difference.
Earlier you were bitching at the distro makers, now the progrma
authors. Which one is it going to be eh?
This is a *.advocacy issue. I've seen more civil conversation
on slashdot.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Evans)
Subject: Matrox G200 + XF86 problem
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:24:14 GMT
I'm running RedHat 5.1 with a G200 and can only get low (<640x480)
resolutions in XF86. I'm not sure if I need to tweak my config or
whether I need an updated server.
If I do need a different server, how can I tell which one to download
and what extra files/libs I need to update?
Thanks
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