Linux-Misc Digest #779, Volume #20 Fri, 25 Jun 99 00:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: linux and CDRW? (Carl Fink)
Re: ppp0 ppp1 ppp2 devices are up. Why? (Belgarion)
Re: Run in background (Greg de Freitas)
Re: Redhat 6.0 and Gnome: Help to make it look less like windows!!!! (mj)
Re: Recommendation needed for Tape Backup drive ("William B. Cattell")
Re: URGENT bootp - does tftp initiate transfer or does server push kernel? (chris)
Re: URGENT bootp - does tftp initiate transfer or does server push kernel? (chris)
Re: Apache not serving web pages (Monte Phillips)
Re: Free dump scripts ("Scott Simpson")
Re: ppp setup (Bob Martin)
setting ulimit for processes (Allin Cottrell)
Re: Road Runner and Linux (Sultan)
Re: ppp setup (Jacob Ratkiewicz)
Linux, Netware, ISDN (Sandor Feher)
Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please ! (Marc Mutz)
X-Web: Linux and X apps in a web browser (Neil Zanella)
Apache not serving web pages ("Lord Byron")
MS Access .mdb files (Robert Krawitz)
Re: mounting floppy read-only problem (Scott Lanning)
Re: Matrox G200 + XF86 problem (Rich Piotrowski)
Re: Debian advocates (Tim Sutherland)
Re: Road Runner and Linux (Ron Gibson)
Re: URGENT bootp - does tftp initiate transfer or does server push kernel? (chris)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: linux and CDRW?
Date: 24 Jun 1999 11:17:24 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:05:32 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I use cdrecord, mkisofs and xcdroast for burning CDRs but I am
>not sure how to use linux with CDRWs (that is, copying and erasing
>files from a CDRW). Any hints?
You use cdrecord, mkisofs, and xcdroast.
See, cdrecord has a -blank option to wipe a CDRW. See the man page.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"This fool wishes to reverse the entire science of astronomy."
-Martin Luther on Copernicus' theory that the Earth orbits the sun
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Belgarion)
Subject: Re: ppp0 ppp1 ppp2 devices are up. Why?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 24 Jun 1999 18:30:34 PST
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, hudini wrote:
> I use '/sbin/ifup ppp0' to connect to net and '/sbin/ifdown ppp0' to
> disconnect... last night when I was already connected I typed
>'/sbin/ifup
> ppp0' by mistake... I then tried to disconnect with '/sbin/ifdown
>ppp0' and I couldn't... After checking '/sbin/ifconfig' it revelead
>devices lo, ppp0, and ppp1...when I usually only have lo and ppp0... I
>couldn't connect to the net again...
>
> I hate to reboot. I tried to restart rc.local, rc.sysint, inetd,
>etc... Nothing got rid of ppp1... Why couldnt the script detect my
>ppp0 and avoid creating ppp1?
>
Well, you could try ifdown ppp1, or just kill the newest pppd
process, both should work.
BTW, running initscripts after init generally isn't the best
idea. (although others may tell you otherwise) The scripts are setup to
expect that no interfaces already exist anyways.
--
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From: Greg de Freitas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Run in background
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:39:59 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Marc Mutz wrote:
>
> ellis wrote:
> >
> > >Try following you executable with an '&'
> >
> > That still leaves the process in the shell's process group.
> >
> If you are using bash, take a look at the 'disown' builtin.
>
> Marc
nohup command [args...] &
:-?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mj)
Subject: Re: Redhat 6.0 and Gnome: Help to make it look less like windows!!!!
Date: 24 Jun 1999 13:47:51 GMT
I would say the same like William (below), but i would add my personal
recomendation to use Fvwm2. It gives you a clean desktop, very flexible
configuration (not easy, dotfile based, but powerfull), and good speed. The
pager (optional as a "module") really rocks, 'cause it lets you scroll around
the entire desktop in smooth transition. It includes Audio events two
(optional), so its very complete.
Enjoy Linux!
bye.
In article <7kh766$73m$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"William Peters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It sounds like you would want to use a standard window manager like window
>maker or fvwm rather than a desktop manager / window manager combination
>such as gnome or kde. I rocommend that you switch since you will make
>better use of your system resources running a standard wm rather than
>running a desktop manager and not using any of the features anyway.
>In gnome you can change the enlightenment and gtk themes to make it look
>much different from windows. Check the screenshots on www.gnome.org or
>themes.org. However, the interface to change this has little to do with
>editing startup scripts. I personally like gnome, however I find it to be
>somewhat unstable at times.
>
>I would also like to get rid of the redhat graphic on the gdm startup
>screen. If anyone knows how to do this, clue me in.
>
>GatonSon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Dear Linux Community,
>>
>> I have Redhat 6.0 with the Gnome/KDE WM. I'm kind of new to Linux so
>please be
>> patient. The problem is it all looks to much like windows!! I want to
>learn
>> how to use linux, not try and make linux like windows. Using Gnome as a
>WM
>> (being it's already installed), I want to clean up the desktop. All I
>want on
>> my screen is one terminal window (I'm beginning to learn to use Bash to
>run
>> startup scripts for other desktop utilities at startup (xclock, emacs,
>etc). I
>> want to change the menus that appear when I click on the desktop with the
>left,
>> middle, and right buttons. Ideally, it would be great to get rid of the
>start
>> menu on the bottom of the screen and be able to get at all my utilities
>(and
>> maybe one submenu somewhere for gnome apps) through the menu on the mouse
>> clicks instead of the start menu.
>>
>> Like I said, I'm more interested in learning Linux/UNIX than trying learn
>a
>> window manager that is just trying to be windows.
>>
>> Oh yea. Does anyone know how I can get rid of the Redhat graphic
>throughout
>> the system (Like on the login screen, etc). I've never been very
>commercial.
>> I don't mind using Redhat, I just don't need graphic everywhere I turn.
>>
>> Thank you very much for help you may have. I heartly appreciate all your
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From: "William B. Cattell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.inux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Recommendation needed for Tape Backup drive
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:50:41 GMT
Martin Kiely wrote:
>
> I'm planning to co-locate an Intel box running redhat 6, can someone
> recommend a tape drive and software combination.
>
> Thanks
I'm using a Tecmar (Wangdat) 3400 and tar. Works for me.
Bill
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From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: URGENT bootp - does tftp initiate transfer or does server push kernel?
Date: 25 Jun 1999 02:11:45 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Stuart R. Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:At that point, the client initiates a TFTP connection to the indicated server
:to download the indicated boot image.
I decided I wanted to setup a diskless workstation, so I setup bootp, followed
the instructions on making a boot image as given by the debian package
maintainer, and gave it a shot. After fighting bootp for 20 or so minutes, I
was able to get it to work w/o any problems ( this required setting up a name
server locally to resolve my own naming scheme ). My problem is with tftp. I
can see in my logs the diskless workstation attempting to connect, however, it
always times out when it attempts to download the boot image. Furthermore,
subsequent tftp connections from anywhere ( including locally ) time out as
well. I can tftp the bootImage to my local hd w/o any trouble before the d-l
works station tries the tftp, but not after. Any ideas as to what may be
going on? From examining the path names given in my logs, I know that they
are accurate.
Chris
--
Shop smart, shop S-mart!
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From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: URGENT bootp - does tftp initiate transfer or does server push kernel?
Date: 25 Jun 1999 02:13:35 GMT
In comp.os.linux.networking Stuart R. Fuller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:At that point, the client initiates a TFTP connection to the indicated server
:to download the indicated boot image.
Excuse the repost, wanted to cut down on the follow ups...
I decided I wanted to setup a diskless workstation, so I setup bootp, followed
the instructions on making a boot image as given by the debian package
maintainer, and gave it a shot. After fighting bootp for 20 or so minutes, I
was able to get it to work w/o any problems ( this required setting up a name
server locally to resolve my own naming scheme ). My problem is with tftp. I
can see in my logs the diskless workstation attempting to connect, however, it
always times out when it attempts to download the boot image. Furthermore,
subsequent tftp connections from anywhere ( including locally ) time out as
well. I can tftp the bootImage to my local hd w/o any trouble before the d-l
works station tries the tftp, but not after. Any ideas as to what may be
going on? From examining the path names given in my logs, I know that they
are accurate.
Chris
--
Half-truths are like half a brick--they can be thrown farther.
--Vice Admiral Human G. Rickover
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monte Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Apache not serving web pages
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:57:31 GMT
Welll actually <G>
Benjamin is partly correct. it should be:
http://<your host name> the default is localhost
More importantly though you failed to tell us just HOW you could not
connect. Vua a samba network? some other network? stand alone
machine? Does ANYTHING work between the machines, or is it just
Apache you cannot access. Need lots of info to be able to help you
and give meaningful answers.
On 24 Jun 1999 15:47:42 PDT, Benjamin John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>if you installed apache, thats all you need for serving webpages
>http://localhost
>and reading docs at http://apache.org
>Lord Byron wrote:
>> I recently tried to set up an old computer as a web server, using Linux and
>> Apache. It has limited hard drive space (1 gig), and I don't plan on using
>> it for anything besides the web serving, so I don't want a full-blown
>> installation of Linux (Mandrake 6 is what I use). I tried installing it
>> with just the base stuff and apache, but that didn't work. httpd is
>> running, but I'm not able to access the documents from any computer. Can
>> someone tell me the minimum stuff I need to install to get apache running.
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> Byron
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From: "Scott Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Free dump scripts
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:46:55 -0700
My apologies. Please change the line
#! /opt/perl/bin/perl
to
#! /usr/bin/perl
at the beginning of dump_files. Thanks.
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp setup
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:27:09 +0000
amp wrote:
>
> I've got a RedHat 5.2 install but I can't get ppp working _still_. I'm
> very close. I can use minicom to establish a connection to my ISP and
> login. Then I can start pppd and it works. However, I want to write a
> script to automate it. I have written a ppp-on script (thanks to a
> PPP-HOWTO). It connects, logs in but then it hangs up after a few
> seconds.
>
> Any ideas where to look?
That certainly indicate the problem is in your script. You may have a
timeout problem, I assume you are using chat in your scipt. one of the
options for chat is -t which sets the the timeout, try adding that if
you are not using it or lengthen the timeout if you are.
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: setting ulimit for processes
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:14:18 -0400
The linux server I run has the max number of user processes set
too low, which is causing some web-server related things to fail.
I know I can up the limit in /etc/initscript, but is there any
way to make that change take effect, short of a reboot? (I haven't
managed to do it with telinit.)
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: Sultan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Road Runner and Linux
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:45:35 -0400
you might try this site
http://www.lugor.org/roadrunner/answers.html
and of course the cable-modem mini how-to. :)
fahd
+Pablo+ wrote:
> I have heard of successful setups with redhat 5.x.
> I have tried both redhat 6.0 and mandrake 6.0, and only could get
> mandrake to work properly.
> +Pablo+
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From: Jacob Ratkiewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp setup
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 21:48:51 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try netcfg. It worked for me.
regards,
Jacob.
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From: Sandor Feher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux, Netware, ISDN
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:52:14 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello guys!
Three magic words. These are my problems. Here are the servers at my
work.
Thin Ethernet.
No. 1 No. 2
|A linux box| -------------------- A netware 4.11 for SB ----|
with netware connect |
DTE1 DTE2
Omni TA 128 ISDN ... NET
Terminal Adapter
Three workstations connect to No. 2. These use WIN NT4.0 and win2ncs com
port redirection to access the NET. It works fine but the users have got
different ISP-s or mailboxes.
It's a problem, because the users can download their letters only
different time(there are only one connection/port available in the same
time in netware connect) and the time is many of course. So the linux
box's job would be collect the users' letters via No.2. In the netware
there's no possibility to make this.(multiprotocol router isn't part of
the 4.11 for SB).
As I know nobody ported Win2NCS to linux. Why don't I use diald or
masqdiald ?
Because I'd like to use this config if it possible and I can't say diald
to stop connection that time I want. I must wait while it's timed out,
meanwhile the WinNT dialer can do it comfortable.
There are two DTE ports on my TA. But here is a problem too. If I use
2nd DTE port I can't use the 2nd phone and nobody can call me too !
Do I hack the serial cable or what can I do ? Important: Only a free
stuff can be good. I wondering your opinion.
Thanks a lot, bye: Sanya
ps:please cc to my private e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 12:25:37 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux box for computer newbies : suggestions please !
Alain Southiere wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 Jun 1999 17:20:17, Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well, I double-checked and the computer has 40MB, not
> 20MB...
>
> > With 20M of RAM forget the following:
> > 1.) running KDE w/o 30M of permantently used swap
>
> So, with 40MB, it should be OK, although a little
> tight, right ? As for swap space, it's not really a
> problem, the disk is big enough (1.3GB) and I'll do
> a rather minimal install, so there should be no
> shortgage of disk space... I'll problably reserve
> somehwere between 40MB and 100MB for swap (any
> advice on this point ? I think I once read that
> anywhing above 64MB was pretty much a waste...).
>
I always recommend (and use it myself) SWAP = 2 * RAM.
Marc
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: X-Web: Linux and X apps in a web browser
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 00:24:52 -0230
Hello,
I have been looking at <http://www.broadwayinfo.com/>, a link
I found under <http://www.x.org/>. All the information about
running X applications from within a web browser looks quite
interesting. I have Red Hat 5.2 installed with X11R6.3.
I wanted to try some demos so I downloaded the plugin libxrx.so.6.3-linux2
and put it under ~/.netscape/plugins and restarted netscape.
Every time I go to <http://www.broadwayinfo.com/> and try the
demos the browser crashes.
Has anyone had any good experience with this?
Do I need X11R6.4 or something?
Do the XFree86 X Servers work?
Did I do something wrong?
If anyone manages to run any of the demos then please let me know.
Also let me know if you were successful in running an X app on
your own website (if your ISP or whoever runs Linux).
Tell me how you did it and what software/hardware you are using.
Thanks for your help,
Neil Zanella
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Lord Byron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Apache not serving web pages
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:59:13 -0500
I recently tried to set up an old computer as a web server, using Linux and
Apache. It has limited hard drive space (1 gig), and I don't plan on using
it for anything besides the web serving, so I don't want a full-blown
installation of Linux (Mandrake 6 is what I use). I tried installing it
with just the base stuff and apache, but that didn't work. httpd is
running, but I'm not able to access the documents from any computer. Can
someone tell me the minimum stuff I need to install to get apache running.
Thanks.
--
Byron
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From: Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MS Access .mdb files
Date: 24 Jun 1999 22:02:38 -0400
One of the few things I have left from my Windows-using days that I
really want to maintain read capability to is a certain MS Access
(from Office 4.3) database (for sentimental reasons; it was our
wedding). Right now I don't have a working Windows partition; I think
a motherboard upgrade about 6 months ago blew it out and a disk
upgrade yesterday makes it terribly inconvenient anyway (as in DOS
doesn't grok an 18 GB disk and I don't care to make my primary IDE be
this old 1.6 GB clunker). So what I'd like to do is somehow convert
it into raw SQL or Postgres or something of the sort. Any
suggestions? I've had no luck searching freshmeat or linux.com.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: mounting floppy read-only problem
Date: 25 Jun 1999 03:33:31 GMT
Marat Ruvinov ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: The disk is not write-protected....I verified it.
: More precisely, the message is
: "block device /dev/fd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only"
:
: And the permissions for /dev/fd0 are writable. So I'm not sure.....
What does the appropriate entry in /etc/fstab say?
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with trees." --Lao Tse
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From: Rich Piotrowski <rpiotrow*nospammin'*@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Matrox G200 + XF86 problem
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:36:00 -0500
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999, Steve Evans wrote:
>I'm running RedHat 5.1 with a G200 and can only get low (<640x480)
>resolutions in XF86. I'm not sure if I need to tweak my config or
>whether I need an updated server.
>If I do need a different server, how can I tell which one to download
>and what extra files/libs I need to update?
>
>Thanks
>
>--
>Remove the dodgy character from my address to reply :)
>"The good thing about standards is that there's so many to choose from"
Maybe an updated XFree86 installation?
My son has his G200 working just fine in RedHat 6.0. What monitor do you have
selected?
Rich Piotrowski
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Debian advocates
Date: 25 Jun 1999 04:05:34 GMT
In article <7kodg9$84u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Girash wrote:
[snip]
>But nomatter how much and how thorough internal testing is done, there's no
>way for the end-user (or Debian!) to _know_ that the thing is robust until
>it's been out awhile.
Internal testing? By the time a Debian release reaches stable, and end-user
/knows/ that many other end-users have been using that release (as frozen) for
quite some time without problems.
[snip]
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To show respect for the 313th anniversary (tomorrow) of the
death of Blaise Pascal, your programs will be run at half speed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Subject: Re: Road Runner and Linux
Date: 25 Jun 1999 03:11:32 GMT
On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 20:20:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> However, the only OS's available on the sign in list are for Win9x and
> Macs. I did some searching and it seems like there are linux people out
> there using the RR service.
> Can someone please let me know how to connect...i.e. kernel
> configurations, programs to download, etc? Any answers are very
> appreciated. Thanks in advance...
Here's a message I saved...
Ron,
Go to http://luau.hi.net/howtos.shtml and you'll get info on the how to
get on
the 'Net with Road Runner. You may have to edit a file or two to make ot
location
specific for you, but should be in the README files.
On the free thing, I think Linux has a real good shot at overtaking
Windows, as
the OS itself is free, but watch for more and more applications to become
commercialized, in that they will be released by companies wanting to
charge money
for them. Of course, there will most likely always be hackers out there
porting
more and more programs to Linux :)
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From: chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: URGENT bootp - does tftp initiate transfer or does server push kernel?
Date: 25 Jun 1999 03:02:42 GMT
chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
[problems]
Nevermind. I realized that it failed if it coulnd't reverse lookup the name.
I mega hacked my .rev dns entry to have it reverse map.
Chris
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