Linux-Misc Digest #780, Volume #20 Fri, 25 Jun 99 03:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: libs all around (Paul Kimoto)
Re: AFM files; how do i create them? (Rod Smith)
Re: Certain Differences: RH vs. Debian (Tim Sutherland)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Ken Arromdee)
Fragile file system (Christopher Wong)
From scratch? (phantom)
Re: Debian advocates (John Girash)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (was: Depoliticising the argument (was:
The End of Free Software)) (Peter da Silva)
Re: Please help: RedHat6.0 Iomega 250 Parallel Zip install and config (The RZA)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Cameron Hutchison)
Alice in UNIX Land (A D)
Re: Probs with SCSI Iomega ZIP100 intern (David C)
linux/limits.h: No such file or directory (Azfar Kazmi)
Remote connect to UNIX server thro' proxy problem ("kawing")
Re: Recommendation needed for Tape Backup drive (David C)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: libs all around
Date: 24 Jun 1999 23:50:20 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vic Mortelmans wrote:
> I have some questions about the linux-library-system. My system has
> different directories stuffed with all sorts of librarys. For example,
> these files (among other) populate my /usr/X11R6/lib:
>
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 83799 Aug 25 1997 libXmu.so*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Aug 25 1997 libXmu.so.6 -> libXmu.so.6.0*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 83799 Aug 25 1997 libXmu.so.6.0*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 82734 Jun 25 00:35 libXpm.so*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 Jun 25 00:36 libXpm.so.4 -> libXpm.so.4.11*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 82734 Jun 25 00:35 libXpm.so.4.11*
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 82734 Jun 25 00:35 libXpm.so.4.7*
Is there any difference between (e.g.) libXmu.so and libXmu.so.6.0?
On most systems, the former would be a symbolic link to the latter.
> Most libs have three files: libXfoo.so, libXfoo.so.v.w and libXfoo.so.v
> which is a soft link to the second file.
>
> Question:
> What exactly does each of this files, which are needed, etc? What is the
> idea behind this constellation?
If you use "ldd" on some of your favorite X executables, you will see
which libraries each uses.
The file (or symlink) libXfoo.so is used by the linker, at the end of
compilation, and the symlink (or file) libXfoo.so.v is used by the
dynamic linker (at runtime) to find the particular library, which is
given a name like libXfoo.so.v.w for documentary purposes.
> And in particular:
> This libXpm.so.4.7, is it redundant?
I think so.
--
Paul Kimoto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: AFM files; how do i create them?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:50:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <7ktcgf$dt0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (mj) writes:
> Hi,
>
> I installed StarOffice on my machine (the download version), and anything
> works fine, but i would like to install more fonts. I installed some
> sharefonts i found lying around there on the net, and they work for X Windows
> (with xfontsel) but StarOffice complains that it need some AFM files, that
> could be created with Ghostscript. I read the GS man pages, info etc, but
> there is no word about .afm files. Any idea?
Many Type 1 fonts come with .afm files, so check what you've already got
first. If the ones you've got don't have them, you may want to check out
a utility called pfm2afm, which converts .pfm files to .afm files (Type 1
fonts that don't have .afm files almost invariably have .pfm files, since
Windows ATM requires .pfm files). Check this URL for pfm2afm:
http://tug2.cs.umb.edu/ctan/tex-archive/fonts/utilities/pfm2afm/
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
NOTE: Remove the "uce" word from my address to mail me
Author of _Special Edition Using WordPerfect for Linux_, from Que;
see http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith/books.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Sutherland)
Subject: Re: Certain Differences: RH vs. Debian
Date: 25 Jun 1999 04:05:33 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve D. Perkins wrote:
[snip intro]
> I notice that Debian binary applications seem to come in "deb"
>format. Of course, 90% of all "binary package versions" for
>applications you can download come in RH's "rpm" format. I was
>wondering if Debian has any means by which to install "rpm"
>packages, or if I'll just have to get used to compiling source
>for programs I download?
Use alien to convert rpm packages to debs (it can also do many other
conversions). You lose dependancy information this way though.
> I'm not sure if "linuxconf" is a linux-thing, or a application
>designed by RedHat... but I've really gotten used to it and love
>using it for mundane tasks. Is it available for Debian, or does
>Debian come with any similar graphical system-management
>utility?
Last time I checked, linuxconf didn't support Debian very well. This may have
changed recently.
>How about RH's "setup" program for configuring sound
>cards and so forth, is there any automatic means for doing this
>with Debian?
Not that I know of.
--
The only cultural advantage LA has over NY is that you can make a right
turn on a red light.
-- Woody Allen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Arromdee)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: 25 Jun 1999 03:44:01 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As I said privately to John Girash, there's something broken about the
>Linux mentality that says that undocumented programs are acceptable.
>And programs whose documentation is available only through a GUI are
>undocumented.
You know what I hate? (And this needn't be specifically Linux). Programs
which require that one use the program in order to read the documentation.
--
Ken Arromdee / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
"I have never seen the inside of the building at Microsoft where the top
executives hang out, but I have this fantasy that in the hallways, at regular
intervals, big red alarm boxes are bolted to the wall. Each contains a large
red button protected by a windowpane. A metal hammer dangles on a chain next
to it. Above is a big sign reading: IN THE EVENT OF A CRASH IN MARKET SHARE,
BREAK GLASS." -- Neal Stephenson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Fragile file system
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 04:43:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Not too long ago, my Mandrake 5.3 system (kernel 2.0.36 based on Red Hat
5.2) crashed. While an OS crash is not too unusual for me -- having used
Windows since its 3.0 days -- I am surprised by the apparent fragility
of the Linux file system. A Dos or OS/2 system would typically dust
itself and bounce right back up with a simple chkdsk or two. This crash,
however, wreaked havoc all over my ext2fs partition. Why would a crash
corrupt files that were not even being written to? Programs like rsh and
fsck got clobbered. After manually invoking fsck, there was still inode
corruption: plenty of files had wierd modes or permissions. Any attempt
to access these files resulted in an "operation not permitted"
message. I could not even erase them as root.
Ultimately, I ended up reinstalling Linux from scratch. I still wonder,
however, if this sort of thing is preventable or necessary. How would
someone who is not a hard core hacker handle this situation? I realize
that Linux tries to juggle a lot more things than a Dos/Windows system,
but is this sort of damage necessary? The damage to files that were not
being written, especially, seems odd. Most importantly, what can I do to
prevent this sort of catastrophe from happening to my newly reinstalled
Linux box (now running the 2.2.9 kernel)?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Chris
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From: phantom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: From scratch?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:16:01 -0500
Say I have a system without autoconf, automake, or libtool. I then get
the sources for these. What order should I follow to compile them?
Does it matter? Thanks.
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.debian.user
Subject: Re: Debian advocates
Date: 25 Jun 1999 04:31:03 GMT
Tim Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7kodg9$84u$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Girash wrote:
>[snip]
>>But nomatter how much and how thorough internal testing is done, there's no
>>way for the end-user (or Debian!) to _know_ that the thing is robust until
>>it's been out awhile.
>Internal testing? By the time a Debian release reaches stable, and end-user
>/knows/ that many other end-users have been using that release (as frozen) for
>quite some time without problems.
Check out the archives of debian-devel-announce for February. Even just a
week or so before the (original) slink release date (2 March) there was a
good bit of work left to do. i.e., things were still changing in frozen,
and the product that ended up as the first stable slink release wasn't quite
the same as the one called "frozen" in late Feb.
This is right and proper and what frozen is meant for. But it also means
that several changes were made to slink at the last minute that didn't get
the same end-user testing that most of it did before release.
You may argue that the changes were minor, perhaps even trivial. I'd counter
that for at least a fair portion of the user base they're still a concern,
enough so to prevent adopting the new release on critical systems for a bit.
Again, just as it should be.
cheers
jg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (was: Depoliticising the
argument (was: The End of Free Software))
Date: 25 Jun 1999 02:43:31 GMT
In article <gTuc3.1207$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alan Curry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>So BSD has man pages for all its components, including the compiler (gcc) and
>debugger (gdb)?
Seems to.
>I'd like to get a copy of those to install on my Linux boxes,
>because I too am annoyed by texinfo.
ftp.cdrom.com, biggest intel-based fileserver on the internet, is at your
command.
--
In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
`-_-' Ar rug t� barr�g ar do mhact�re inniu?
'U` "Be vewy vewy quiet...I'm hunting Jedi." -- Darth Fudd
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From: The RZA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Please help: RedHat6.0 Iomega 250 Parallel Zip install and config
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 01:31:29 -0400
I found out why 'insmod imm' alone results in unresolved symbols.
Instead
of the 'modprobe imm' what I've done is added the line 'insmod parport'
followed by 'insmod imm' to my rc.local file. The reason for the
unresolved
symbols is because imm needs parport loaded first.
Craig J Copi wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> The RZA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Since you have the ZIP 250 drive, you should be using IMM rather than
> > the
> > older PPA. Also, instead of 'insmod imm' do a 'modprobe imm'... it
> > worked for me and I didn't even have to edit my conf.modules file.
>
> But what if you want kmod to do the work for you. Then what do you put in
> conf.modules? I tried setting scsi_hostadapter (and some other things I made
> up as I went along) but none of them worked. Just curious. A modprobe in
> rc.local works for now but I just hate to see "all that" memory wasted when
> the drive isn't being used;)
>
> --
> Craig J Copi | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Case Western Reserve University | http://erebus.phys.cwru.edu/~copi/
> Department of Physics | (216) 368-8831
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From: Cameron Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: 25 Jun 1999 05:59:01 GMT
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>In gnu.misc.discuss,
> Cameron Hutchison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>:>And programs whose documentation is available only through a GUI are
>:>undocumented.
>:
>:Not if it's a GUI program.
>No, I'm sorry, but that's completely wrong, and that's what
>I guess I have to fight. It's really very simple:
> How do I grep a bunch of menu buttons?
> How do I apropos them?
> How do I diff them between releases?
> How do I lpr them?
These (and more) define the criteria for being "documented"??? What a crazy
notion. It sounds like you just want documentation to appear in a form you
like, and if it's not, then its "undocumented". You could have listed
the above criteria as:
needs to be searchable [View|Search...]
needs a searchable summary [View|Search summaries...]
needs a change list [View|Changelog]
needs to be printable [File|Print...]
That would make more sense. But instead you imply that for something to be
documented it must be able to be manipulated with the tools you like to
use - *command line* tools you like to use.
Many people are not comfortable with the command line - they want a
different operating environment. In a different environment, say a GUI
environment, you can still have powerful tools that will meet the above
criteria. You can't use your tools to view a program's documentation, but
that in no way makes the program undocumented.
If a program is designed to run only in a GUI environment then it is not
unreasonable to have the documentation also available for that environment.
It the docco is also available for another environment (CLI) then thats an
added feature, not a necessity. In the GUI environment, grep, apropos, diff
and lpr dont exist. They exist in the CLI environment. Requiring that
documentation for the GUI environment be manipulatable by CLI tools is
expecting too much. It'd be nice, but not necessary.
All IMHO, of course.
--
Cameron Hutchison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | Onward To Mars
GCS d--@ -p+ c++(++++) l++ u+ e+ m+(-) s n- h++ f? !g w+ t r+
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From: A D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Alice in UNIX Land
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:35:37 -0700
Alice in UNIX Land
Alice was reading the message on her monitor and beginning to suspect
that everything was not as it should be. "Program too big to fit in
memory," it read.
"Curiouser and curiouser," she said, "All I did was load fourteen TSRs
before starting my word processor. With four megabytes, I wish I could
use more than 640K."
"At that moment, a small white consultant ( a very white consultant) ran
across the room. "Oh my coat and necktie," he said, "I'm going to be
late for my appointment.
And at one fifty an hour, too." Before Alice could say anything, he
leaped into her monitor and disappeared behind her operating system.
Alice thought that she had never seen anyone leap into a monitor before;
and certainly not go clean through the operating system. But then, she
had been told that DOS
was very shallow. Without hesitating a moment, she leaped in after him.
She found herself in a shiny corridor. Not knowing what else to do, she
began walking. Turning a corner, she found herself facing two fat little
men, each with an arm
round the other's neck. One had "POS" embroidered on his collar, and the
"NEG".
"I know," said Alice, "you two are a transistor."
"Yes," said Positive.
"Can you help me? asked Alice.
"No," said Negative.
"I'm looking for a white consultant." Alice pointed in the direction she
had been walking. "Did he go this way?" she asked.
"No," said Negative.
She pointed the other way.
"Yes," said Positive.
Soon Alice came upon a large brown table. The Consultant was there, as
was an apparently Mad Hacker, and several creatures that Alice did not
recognize. In one
corner sat a Dormouse fast asleep. Over the table was a large sign that
read "UNIX Conference."
Everyone except the Dormouse was holding a paper cup, from which they
were sampling what appeared to be custard. "Wrong flavor," they all
declared as they passed
the cup the cup to the creature on their right and graciously took the
one being offered on their left. Alice watched them repeat this ritual
three or four times before she
approached and sat down.
Immediately, a large toad leaped into her lap and looked at her as if it
wanted to be loved. "Grep," it exclaimed.
"Don't mind him," explained the Mad Hacker. "He's just looking for some
string."
"Nroff?" asked the Frog.
The Mad Hacker handed Alice a cup of custard-like substance and a spoon.
"Here," he said, "what do you think of this?"
"It looks lovely," said Alice, "very sweet." She tried a spoonful.
"Yuck!" she cried. "It's awful. What is it?"
"Oh just another graphic interface for UNIX," answered the Hacker.
Alice pointed to the sleeping Dormouse. "Who's he?" she asked.
"That's OS Too," explained the Hacker. "We've pretty much given up on
waking him.
"Just than, a large, Blue Elephant sitting next to the Dormouse stood
up. "Ladies and gentlemen," he trumpeted pompously, "as the largest
creature here, I feel impelled to
state that we must take an Open Look at..."
A young Job Sparrow on the other side of the table stood up angrily. The
Elephant noticed and changed his speech accordingly. "...what our
NextStep will be.
"Half the creatures bowed in respect while the other half snickered
quietly to themselves. Just then, OS Too fell over in his sleep,
crashing into the Elephant and taking
him down with him. No one seemed a bit surprised.
"What we need," declared a Sun Bear as he lapped up custard with his
long tongue," is a flavor that goes down like the Macintosh.
"Suddenly, the White Consultant began jumping up and down as his face
got red. "No, no, no! he screamed. "No one pays one fifty an hour to
Macintosh consultants!"
"Awk," said the Frog.
"Users," explained the Sun Bear, "want an easy interface that they will
not have to learn."
"Users?" cried the Consultant in disbelief. "Users?! You mean
secretaries, accountants, architects. Manual laborers!"
"Well," responded the Sun Bear, "we've got to do something to make them
want to switch to UNIX."
"Do you think," said a Woodpecker who had been busy making a hole in the
table, "that there might be a problem with the name `UNIX?' I mean, it
does sort of suggest
being less than a man."
"Maybe we should try another name, " suggested the Job Sparrow, "like
Brut, or Rambo."
"Penix," suggested a Penguin.
"Mount," said the Frog, "spawn."
Alice slapped him. "Nice?" he asked.
"But then again," suggested the Woodpecker, "what about the shrinkwrap
issue?"
Suddenly, everyone leaped up and started dashing about, waving their
hands in the air and screaming. Just as suddenly, they all sat down
again.
"Now that that's settled," said the Woodpecker, "let's go back to
tasting flavors."
Everyone at the table sampled a new cup of custard. "Wrong flavor," they
all declared as they passed the cup to the creature on their right and
took the one being
offered on their left.
Totally confused, Alice got up and left. After she had been walking
away, she heard a familiar voice behind her.
"Rem," is said, "edlin."
Alice turned and saw the Frog. She smiled. "Those are queer sounding
words," she said, "but at least I know what they mean."
"Chkdsk," said the Frog.
--epicman2627
NOTE: I didn't write this joke. I found it somewhere on the Web.
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From: David C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.config,linux.dev.scsi,linux.misc
Subject: Re: Probs with SCSI Iomega ZIP100 intern
Date: 25 Jun 1999 02:22:55 -0400
"Stephan Eickschen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> until three weeks ago I had no problems with my Probs with internal
> SCSI Iomega ZIP100. Suddenly (?!?) it refused to write anything to any
> disk.
>
> In detail:
> after I cp (a) file(s) to (the mounted :) ) /zip it might happen, that
> - ls shows the file(s), but after umount / mount it / they are gone
> - ls doesn't show anything
> or during cp action /var/log/messages shows that what you find in the
> attachment...
...
> Jun 24 10:57:34 pinguin kernel: Filesystem panic (dev 08:34, mounted on 08:02:194205)
> Jun 24 10:57:34 pinguin kernel: fat_free: deleting beyond EOF
> Jun 24 10:57:34 pinguin kernel: File system has been set read-only
> Jun 24 10:57:34 pinguin kernel: file_cluster badly computed!!! 0 <> 4802
> Jun 24 10:57:34 pinguin kernel: file_cluster badly computed!!! 1 <> 4803
> Jun 24 10:57:34 pinguin kernel: file_cluster badly computed!!! 2 <> 4804
> Jun 24 10:57:34 pinguin kernel: file_cluster badly computed!!! 3 <> 4805
> (...)
Sounds like some file system structure on the disc is corrupted. I'd
copy all the data off of the disc, reformat it, and copy the data back.
The file system driver is discovering something wrong that it can't fix
or work around, so it re-mounts the disc as read-only to prevent further
damage.
> I have no problems with it under Windoze95, i.e. I can copy files to
> the W95 partition and then use the exploder to put them on a disk...
W95 doesn't do nearly as much sanity checking on the file system. If
you run SCANDISK on that disc, you'll probably find errors. I don't
know if it will be able to fix them or not. Backup the files first,
just in case it screws everything up.
-- David
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From: Azfar Kazmi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 05:48:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am having problems making Apache 1.3.6. Earlier I had similar problems
while was making SOCKS5. I suspect that origin of problems is some
missing files in gcc library. Here is what I get when try to make
Apache:
==========================
[root@inet /usr/src/apache_1.3.6/src 10:40:32]# make
===> regex
sh ./mkh -i _REGEX_H_ regex2.h regcomp.c regerror.c regexec.c regfree.c
> ../in
clude/hsregex.h
sh ./mkh -p regcomp.c >regcomp.ih
gcc -I. -I../os/unix -I../include -DLINUX=2 -DUSE_HSREGEX
-DPOSIX_MISTAKE
-c regcomp.c -o regcomp.o
In file included from /usr/include/posix1_lim.h:92,
from /usr/include/limits.h:27,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/include/limits.
h:112,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/include/syslimi
ts.h:7,
from
/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/2.7.2.3/include/limits.
h:11,
from regcomp.c:5:
/usr/include/local_lim.h:21: linux/limits.h: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [regcomp.o] Error 1
make: *** [subdirs] Error 1
============================
I am using gcc-2.7.2.3-14 on Redhat 5.2 kernel 2.2.9 with
glibc-2.0.7-29
glib-1.0.6-3
glibc-devel-2.0.7-29
libc-5.3.12-27
Any suggestions??
-Azfar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: "kawing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Remote connect to UNIX server thro' proxy problem
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 23:29:30 -0700
Hi,
I am building a small network of 2 computers: a Linux
client, a NT server at home. I have wingate 2.1 on the NT to share Internet
access.
Problem is I can't remote connect to my school's UNIX
(Sun OS 5.6)server. I mean from my Linux client, I can
telnet to the wingate at my NT server, then I can telnet to shool's server.
But when I try to allow the remote UNIX server to control my linux box,
ie.after I use the command:
"setenv display IP_address_of_my_dial_up : 0.0". ,
and try to run "netscape&" or other X window application, the following
error resulted:
"saltspring>(none):unkown host
X connection to saltspring.ugrad.cs.ubc.ca:2.0 broken
(explicit kill or server shutdown)"
I think it's b/c the linux box has a local IP set by me
for the intranet. But the school server send data to the
NT server instead of the linx client b/c it's the server
really on having that global IP address.
So how can I connect linux to ugrad server?
Does anyone has similar experience like that? All
suggestions are welcomed!
Thanks,
kawing
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From: David C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.inux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Recommendation needed for Tape Backup drive
Date: 25 Jun 1999 02:04:21 -0400
Martin Kiely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I'm planning to co-locate an Intel box running redhat 6, can someone
> recommend a tape drive and software combination.
Anything SCSI (SCSI-2 or better) is almost certain to be compatible with
any operating system, assuming you've got the SCSI card's device driver
installed OK. (The one exception being Win95 - it's bundled backup
program doesn't support SCSI tapes, but third-party backup programs do.)
Aside from that, go with whatever mechanism your budget/needs dictate.
The nice thing about SCSI-2 is that a generic command-set for tapes is
defined, so all drives should be equally compatible. I've used
QIC/Travan drives, 4mm DAT and 8mm drives with no problems.
CD-R and CD-RW may also be viable alternatives, depending on what your
backup needs are. For me, I need tape - so I can insert one tape and do
an unattended back up of my entire file system (currently about 1.5GB).
-- David
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