Linux-Misc Digest #787, Volume #20 Fri, 25 Jun 99 15:13:14 EDT
Contents:
Plugin for Realplayer G2! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: PROXY (Jim Noeth)
Re: Linux viruses (Gerbrand van Dieijen)
Re: MS Access .mdb files (Stew Benedict)
Re: Getting current user name (Alex Flinsch)
Problems with 486 PC and 44x UDMA CDROM (Rajesh Radhakrishnan)
Re: linux and CDRW? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Tom Christiansen)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Re: Mounting dos file system (Dirk Wollherr)
Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work? ("Jimmy Navarro")
Re: IMPORTANT: Votes needed against upcoming European Software Patent Laws
(TurboLinux User)
Re: Documentation, or the lack thereof (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Re: Linux 2.2.10 does not know make zImage?? (Timothy Murphy)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Re: CD player - no sound (Mahlon Stoutz)
Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Re: UNIX / LINUX Compatibility (anthony classick)
Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be? ("Steven A. Kortze")
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (J. Maynard Gelinas)
Re: How to make a boot or rescue disk with new kernel version? (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux? (Stu)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Plugin for Realplayer G2!
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:58:21 GMT
Hello, I'm a Linux newbie, I love the OS, but have noticed a few
headaches that I've decided to address. One headache is a lack of plugin
support for Netscape for various MIME types (specifically RealPlayer
content).
PROBLEM:
I've downloaded and installed RealPlayer G2 (Alpha) from
www.real.com/products/player/linux.html. It works well, although not
fully feature complete. Also there is no plugin support yet.
When I visit a web site which delivers RealPlayer content, and the
content is embedded in the page (via the OBJECT or EMBED tag, as is most
often the case), I am prompted for a plugin which does not exist
yet. Embedded content requires the existance of a plugin, helper apps
wont work.
SOLUTION:
I have written a Netscape plugin for the RealPlayer G2 alpha which will
launch the standalone app, and foreward the embedded content to the
player.
At this point I realized that there may be many other MIME types, for
which an application exists for the Linux platform, but no Netscape
plugin exists (possibly other media types). I have decided to extend my
plugins ability to handle multiple types of embedded content, and drive
the thing from a configuration file (located in the users home
directory).
QUESTION:
1) Has anyone else done anything similiar? I've only invested a few
hours so far, and it currently suits my purposes just fine. However if
this is something others would be interested in, I'll want to finish
adding the above enhancements and release it for others to use.
2) Has anyone else bumped into other embedded content for which an
application exists, but no plugin (other audio, video, etc)? If so, let
me know so I can test that MIME type with my plugin.
3) Is anyone else interested in this sucker? If so. Let me know and I'll
get back to you. My E-Mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Simply put 'plugin' or
the like in the subject line.
4) Legal stuff. I've never released anything under the GPL, and would
like to do so. However, some of the headers needed are copyrighted by
Netscape. Anyone know how I should release this thing considering I dont
own the entire code base?
Like I said, I am a newbie, and this is just a silly little plugin, but
I'm still having fun. Hope others could use this as well.
Cheers, Jalso
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From: Jim Noeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PROXY
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:42:32 GMT
Look at /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/IP-Masquerade on your linux box (assuming
you installed the HOWTO documentation. This is one way to accomplish
what you want. The other is to use a proxy server (squid is one that is
available for linux).
Jim
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I linux box(198.168.200.1) doing PPP. How do I get WIN95
> > (198.168.200.2) Browser to connect to the internet through the linux
> > box?
> > I can telnet from win95 to linux.
> >
> > JJ
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
> I too am trying to do the same thing. I have a Linux box with IP
> 192.168.1.254 with my Win95 logged into in with samba. My Win95's IP
is
> 192.168.1.2.
>
> How do I get my Win95 client to share my PPP connection that Linux has
> up and running?
>
>
--
Jim Noeth
A. G. Edwards and Sons, Inc.
Opinions expressed are mine and are not necessarily those of my
employer.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerbrand van Dieijen)
Subject: Re: Linux viruses
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:42:18 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 12:49:43 -0500, hudini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>WME wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> Are our linux systems immune from viruses?
>
>YES!
I would like to have some proof for that. Programs can't infect other
programs, except when you're root, but to my opinion the can infect
login-script like .bashrc, .profile. If a hacker finds a securityhole the
program might get root-access and infect other scripts as well.
Of course securityholes can be fixed quickly, but in the mean time the virus
can do some harm in non-updated systems.
I heard once of a virus that infected Linux-PC's that way, usings a
securityhole.
>
>> I mean do we just transfer
>> them or could they get infected. I used to think that my system is safe as
>> long as I am using Linux because hackers usually make viruses for M$ and
>> apple. Now I noticed some virus software for linux on the tucows website.
>
>Fuck that. Freaking lame sorry website. Tucows and Linuxberg know shit
>about Linux... They are just in for the quick buck.
>
There are virusscanner for Linux that will scan incoming files on a server for
Windows virusses, for Linuxservers that have Windows-client-machines.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stew Benedict)
Subject: Re: MS Access .mdb files
Date: 25 Jun 1999 16:56:36 GMT
Reply-To: stewb AT earthlink DOT net
You could setup Wabi and install Win3.1 and Access. Works great with
the Office4.3 apps.
(If copies of Wabi can still be found)
Stew Benedict
On 24 Jun 1999 22:02:38 -0400, Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>One of the few things I have left from my Windows-using days that I
>really want to maintain read capability to is a certain MS Access
>(from Office 4.3) database (for sentimental reasons; it was our
>wedding). Right now I don't have a working Windows partition; I think
>a motherboard upgrade about 6 months ago blew it out and a disk
>upgrade yesterday makes it terribly inconvenient anyway (as in DOS
>doesn't grok an 18 GB disk and I don't care to make my primary IDE be
>this old 1.6 GB clunker). So what I'd like to do is somehow convert
>it into raw SQL or Postgres or something of the sort. Any
>suggestions? I've had no luck searching freshmeat or linux.com.
>
>--
>Robert Krawitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/
>
>Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2
>Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>"Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works."
>--Eric Crampton
--
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From: Alex Flinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.win95,comp.os.ms-windows.setup95,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc
Subject: Re: Getting current user name
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 09:40:30 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frank Bade wrote:
> Hi !
>
> I am currently realizing a network with a few PCs and a linux server for an
> elementary school.
>
> The user logs on into windows 95 by entering his domain password and local
> win95 password. Afterwards, the desktop appears.
>
> Question:
> Does anybody knows, how I can read the name of the current user in a batch file ?
> There is no '%user' variable like in NT or so. I need this information to be
> able to connect the users home directory to a network drive.
>
Not the best way to do it (you should be able to use
GetEnvironmentName/SetEnvironmentName calls instead of creating a batch file), but I
didnt want to screw around with it too long. Besides I had a little proggie that did
the getusername call hanging around anyway.
1 - get cygwin and install on a win95 machine
2 - compile the following
/* create a batch file to set user name
compile with:
gcc -o setusername.exe setusetname.c -ladvapi32 -mno-cygwin
*/
#include <windows.h>
#include <stdio.h>
main()
{
char UserName[100];
char EnvUser[100];
char User[6] = "xuser";
int UserNameLen = 100;
int EnvUserLen = 100;
int API_RetCode;
FILE *batfile;
API_RetCode=GetUserName(UserName,&UserNameLen);
if (API_RetCode)
{
batfile = fopen("setuser.bat","w");
fprintf(batfile,"set xuser=%s\n",UserName);
fclose(batfile);
}
else
printf("Set of username failed\n");
}
/* end source */
install the resulting executable into the all users paths
add the following to the batch file
setusername.exe
setuser.bat
there will now be an environment variable named xuser that you can look at
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From: Rajesh Radhakrishnan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Problems with 486 PC and 44x UDMA CDROM
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:30:31 -0400
Hi,
I have an old 486 PC and the slowest CDROM I could get is 44x with UDMA
(Ultra DMA). When I try to install RedHat 5.2 from the CD, the PC hangs
and the CD keeps running and nothing happens to the installation
process. Does anyone know where I could linux device driver for the
above CDROM and also, do I need to add something to my 486 motherboard
for it to communicate with the 44x CDROM.
Thanks in advance.
Rajesh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: linux and CDRW?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 17:31:45 GMT
In article <7kt444$81$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 22:05:32 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I use cdrecord, mkisofs and xcdroast for burning CDRs but I am
> >not sure how to use linux with CDRWs (that is, copying and erasing
> >files from a CDRW). Any hints?
>
> You use cdrecord, mkisofs, and xcdroast.
>
> See, cdrecord has a -blank option to wipe a CDRW. See the man page.
> --
Hi ya
Thank you both.
I agree with you that cdrecord can deal with CDRW but when I
use cdrecord blank=all (track) -force -dev=0,3,0 my whole disk (or
track) is wiped out.
I don't want that. I just need to replace a single file (or directory).
How to do that?
Thanks again.
Regards
Ed
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 24 Jun 1999 16:32:03 -0700
[courtesy cc of this posting mailed to cited author]
In gnu.misc.discuss, John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:Hey guys, here's a tip: *.advocacy . It's there for a reason, use it.
Newsgroup redirection: PERMISSION DENIED
It does *not* fall into the realm of advocacy that a great deal of
software that comes included with or has been designed for Linux systems
is completely or virtually undocumented. It's a grave and pernicious
problem that afflicts Linux in all its myriad incarnations. When I read
in the SuSE installation manual, nominally the best distribution thus far,
that not all programs they provided included documentation, I wanted to
throw the book and its half-dozen CD right into the roaring fireplace.
There's simply no excuse for this kind of nonsense. None whatsoever.
Since its inception, each and every version of Unix has included
complete documentation.
Unix v1 Manpages:
http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/who/dmr/1stEdman.html
Unix v7 Manpages:
http://cm.bell-labs.com/7thEdMan/index.html
http://language.perl.com/ppt/v7/index.html
Proper documentation has always been something that makes Unix what it is.
That's part of why it's a POSIX.1 requirement, as IBM learned to its
dismay as it was forced to retrofit its propietary docs back into standard
format back into its AIX system in order to earn POSIX compliance.
The real reason for this requirement is that is because anything else
leads us to the evil days of Microsoft and mainframe-style IBM.
The next time I install something that doesn't include manpages, but
instead provides some dippy [ABOUT] button that tells you absolutely
nothing about how to use the software in question, or even more
frustratingly, an endless labyrinth of cascading menus or pop-up screens
that are simultaneously un-grep-able, un-apropos-able, and un-lpr-able,
I'm going to track down the author and dump a truckload of encyclopedias
on his point little head in the hope that he might actually learn how
to read and write.
If I wanted Microsoft or IBM mainframe rigamarole, I'd know where to
go--and I chose not to go there. Sometimes on Linux, it's hard to tell
the difference.
--tom
--
``Lazy people never bother to actually read the manual. Instead,
they (like kids) pick something with big, colorful buttons.''
--Eugene Tyurin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: 25 Jun 1999 14:17:30 -0400
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> As I said privately to John Girash, there's something broken about the
> Linux mentality that says that undocumented programs are acceptable.
> And programs whose documentation is available only through a GUI are
> undocumented.
All that documentation is available as actual documents. I submit
that if you can get the documentation as documents, then you have real
documentation.
This does not mean that things without any kind of docs are
acceptible, but it does mean that Texinfo is a suitable documentation
format.
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: 25 Jun 1999 14:18:19 -0400
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Gnome. Gimp. Enlightenment.
Bleeding edge software often gets written before the documentation is
up to speed. Sorry, but that's the way it is.
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Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 16:33:01 +0200
From: Dirk Wollherr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mounting dos file system
Did you check that you have read/writing permissions set to the
directory on which you have mounted the DOS-disc?
--
===================================
Dirk Wollherr
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jimmy Navarro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:20:16 -0700
Ron DuFresne wrote in message <7kvf3m$e68$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In comp.unix.questions Jimmy Navarro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>: I work around huge comporate network of NT servers: SMB server, PDC,
>: firewall, routers, e-mail servers, etc... Is there way to remotely
>: monitor or track down employees abusing the LAN-to-Internet continuous
>: connectivity surfing the WWWduring working hours with their Ethernet
>: connected Windows 95/NT workstations? Any suggestion?
>
>
><grin> perhaps ya should spend yer time there at work doing just that,
>rather then looking into what everyone around ya's doing...
>
>Laterer,
>
>
>Ron DuFresne
Hi, Mr. Ron DuFresne with dodo brain, fyi I was just posting the question
was asked me by a MCSE NT System Administrator who doesn't work around Unix
is there's something he could do and this issue is not even my concern.
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From: TurboLinux User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT: Votes needed against upcoming European Software Patent Laws
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:16:16 -0700
Ingo Marks wrote:
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>
> This is a strong invitation to support the efforts of EuroLinux
> (http://www.eurolinux.org). EuroLinux is a partnership between FFII
> (http://www.ffii.org) and AFUL (http://www.aful.org), working together against
> European Union's shortly upcoming efforts to make software patentable like in
> the U.S. and Japan. Software patents would become a serious danger for the Open
> Source Movement, especially for the many existing (and upcoming)
> independent small European software companies which depend on Open Source
> products (like Linux) and offer customer support for it.
>
> Please read http://www.eurolinux.org, http://www.ffii.org/indexen.html,
> http://www.ffii.org/news/j1w22en.html and sign
> http://swpat.ffii.org/miert/indexen.html if you would like to support the
> EuroLinux campaign.
>
> Currently about 1300 persons have signed.
how would the EU law be different than the U.S./Japanese ones? Having
done free software development both in the US and in Japan, I don't
think that software patent laws really affect things in either country.
--
==========================
Scott M. Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
UNIX Systems/Network Admin (Consultant)
Taos Mountain Software
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Documentation, or the lack thereof
Date: 25 Jun 1999 14:20:38 -0400
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> eqn. Read the original docs Brian wrote on it to see what amazing results
> he could produce with so little.
Unfortunately, mathematics typesetting is harder that Kernighan
realized when eqn was written. The spacing issues are amazingly
subtle, and there is a good reason that the American Mathematical
Society uses TeX and not eqn: eqn is just not up to the job.
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: Linux 2.2.10 does not know make zImage??
Date: 25 Jun 1999 18:25:01 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>= why doesn't it know about make zImage? Is there anything missing?
>Perhaps they went totally with the bzImage instead...
I don't think so.
make zImage works OK for me with 2.2.10.
--
Timothy Murphy
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: 25 Jun 1999 14:31:50 -0400
The manpages for Unix have never been complete by themselves; the
/usr/doc stuff was just as important (often more so) than the /usr/man
stuff. Taking the man pages and the /usr/doc material together, the
AT&T Unix releases did have fairly complete documentation.
But it is most lamentable that for lots of good free software out
there there is little or no documentation. That means that the job of
writing those programs is not finished. It has always been a very
important part of the GNU Project that every free software program
needs a good free manual to go with it. One problem here is that the
skill of writing manuals is different from the skill of writing
programs, and only a subset of programmers can do both well, and only
a subset of those enjoy writing manuals as much as they enjoy writing
programs.
I think it behooves everyone who is bothered by this (as I am) to work
on writing good manuals for programs and not just writing programs.
Tom Christiansen has written (I'm told) some good manuals for Perl.
It's important to remember that O'Reilly books are not adequate as
documentation for free software, because documentation must come with
the software, as Tom Christiansen so aptly points out. Freely
distributable software must therefore come with manuals distributable
on the same terms. I don't know whether Tom's Perl manuals are free
or not; Tom, can you clarify that?
Interestingly it is the case that NetBSD does *not* have complete
manuals, precisely because much of the old /usr/doc set was written by
AT&T and NetBSD is not allowed to distribute it freely. I don't know
whether or not there is an organized campaign to write free versions
of those manuals.
Thomas
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From: Mahlon Stoutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD player - no sound
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:39:12 -0400
Howdy folks,
I signed on to this newsgroup to see if anyone else has eperienced this
looniness.
All of a sudden, no music comes out of my speakers when I try to play
music CDs under Mandrake 6.0 (dual PII333 with latest revision of 2.2.9
and a Yamaha OPL3 running under 4-front's OSS).
And, please, yes every obvious thing works: reads, rips and plays
perfectly under Win NT; no problems reading data from drive under
Linux, Linux sound, MP3s, etc. otherwise work fine, CD properly reads
CDDB info and displays track info, initializes play, turns the CD, runs
through the play list, but no sound from the speakers!
I could only assume that this resulted from something I missed when I
rebuilt the Kernel, but it would be the first time in fifty or so
successful builds that this has happened.
I have no idea otherwise.
Thanks,
Mahlon
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: 25 Jun 1999 14:33:12 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes:
> > As I said privately to John Girash, there's something broken about the
> > Linux mentality that says that undocumented programs are acceptable.
> > And programs whose documentation is available only through a GUI are
> > undocumented.
>
> All that documentation is available as actual documents. I submit
> that if you can get the documentation as documents, then you have real
> documentation.
I realize I spoke too soon here. "docs" available only through
obnoxious pop-up thingies and so forth do not count as docs, I agree.
I was confusing this with Texinfo, which *does* count as docs in the
same way that *roff things do.
Thomas
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From: anthony classick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.unix,alt.unix.geeks,alt.unix.wizards,alt.unix.wizards.free,ca.unix,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: UNIX / LINUX Compatibility
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 06:50:40 -0400
If it runs on your computer, it may not run on the host even if they are
both Linux! Sorry to give you such grim news, but I have tested "BASH"
scripts on my SuSE linux machine, uploaded it to www.one.net's server,
which is Linux (unknown version), and they failed! I had to test my CGI
scripts "live" (with an html page that used the cgi script, and a
browser), making alterations after seeing the browser output.
Don't count on ANY commonality.
Brian M. Begg wrote:
>
> June 21, 1999
>
> Hello:
>
> I have purchased LINUX 6.0 o.s. and I
> was curious: if I upload LINUX-compiled
> applications (CGI's) and my web-host server
> runs on UNIX, will these CGI's run? i.e.,
> is there compatibility with LINUX 6.0 and
> UNIX?
>
> Any help would help. E-mail me if u wish.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian Begg ---> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Steven A. Kortze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: open systems?!? Re: Why does Apple not cooperate with Be?
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:27:24 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeffrey Flowers wrote:
>
> I used to own a NeXTStation and it was a great system. I hope that nobody
> buys Be. You can see how Apple is wreaking NeXTSTEP.
>
> > OTOH I suspect Be will be like NeXT (pre-Apple purchase) and
> > Amiga and a number of other "fringe" operating systems: they'll
> > have a small, but loyal following.
Hmm, very interesting. I have used the BeOS on a 160 MHz Performa. Very
impressive. The one report that I heard was that Be was heavily in debt.
If they don't turn that around they will not Be for much longer. Poor
grammar was intentional.
I have not had any experience with NeXT hardware or software. However,
from my perspective it may be an inside job. The former head of NeXT,
who was a Co-founder of Apple, is now the iHead of Apple. Sorry,
couldn't resist a little iHumor. The people in charge of hardware and
software engineering are both former NeXT people. Likewise the head of
Worldwide Sales and the General Counsel. My reference for this
information is the executive profile page
<http://www.apple.com/pr/profiles.html>. I really don't have anything
against NeXT, their products or former customers. I don't disagree that
Apple or some people who are currently with Apple are ruining NeXTSTEP.
Considering that five of the seven people listed on the executive
profile page are former NeXT people, it makes me wonder who is doing the
wrecking. Food for thought.
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J. Maynard Gelinas)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 18:00:52 GMT
On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 13:19:09 +1200, Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 10:40:29 +1200, Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> >
>> >Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> >
>> >
>> >> If you read the supplied URL above, you'll learn that microsoft doesn't
>> >have
>> >> to cheat, to give a better performance than linux on an SMP box.
>> >> Personally, I'd like to see the results on the same machine, when
>> >> linux is swapped out for solaris.
>> >>
>> >But Linux != Solaris, the benchmark is between Linux and NT.
>>
>> So f*cking what? I'm often cited as one of the most
>> rabid Linux Zealots here and if I had the budget for
>> a Quad Xeon I'd go get Sun hardware.
>
>My point being
>a) No one in either Linux or NT camp will dispute that Solaris scales better
>than either OS (if they do, they're idiots)
>b) Whenever scalability is mentioned, most Linux users start talking about
>Solaris, which as I pointed out != linux
>
Jedi's point is still valid. Quad and eight way x86 systems lack
enough bus bandwidth to make such a system comparable I/O performance
wise to something like a Sun Enterprise 3000/4000 class system. Just
because it has the same number of CPU's (and even a similar price
point), doesn't make the system any more scalable. I doubt
Solaris/x86 could do significantly better than NT on such x86 class
hardware for this very reason.
Steven Tweedie discussed this issue at USENIX and was very
specific about why Linux performed badly on that Mindcraft test. OK,
so currently Linux-2.2 only spinlocks the entire networking stack
instead of individual card drivers -- this is why Mindcraft chose a
four CPU system with four network cards. And OK, so multiple threads
in a process when taking an I/O request all wake up at once... a more
serious issue that's getting addressed in 2.3.x -- but these issues
hit at the _fringe_ of high performance systems. You should _not_ buy
x86 for this kind of load... I certainly wouldn't recommend it to my
management.
And I don't see Rob Malda complaining about the poor performance
of his dual-CPU x86 box running Linux and serving Slashdot to a
_large_ audience. Do you honestly think NT would provide better
uptime and throughput than Linux for that task?
Cheers,
J. Maynard Gelinas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Subject: Re: How to make a boot or rescue disk with new kernel version?
Date: 17 Jun 1999 03:01:21 GMT
In article <7k9kd6$dm6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jung, SH wrote:
>I am using Redhat linux 6.0 with kernel 2.2.9 recomplied.
>i already made a booting disk, but i don't know how to make a boot disk or
>rescue disk with new kernel version.
cd /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot
rdev -R zImage 1
cp zImage /dev/fd0
Optionally,
floppycontrol -f
cmp zImage /dev/fd0
Now read the manpages to see what you did.
Cameron
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From: Stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux?
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 04:22:54 +0100
KDE are developing a developing enviroment called KDevelop. However, it is
only at version 0.4 and although I haven't tried it yet I imagine it is not
stable yet. I still think its worth keeping an eye on its development
progress though as it looks like it will be pretty good.
Todd Sorensen wrote:
> Does anyone know of any visual development tools for Linux/X? I have
> used
> Delphi and C++ Builder in the past to create simple windows apps and was
> wondering if there is something similar for linux and X. (C/C++ is
> preferable)
> Thanks.
>
> Joshua Grauman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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