Linux-Misc Digest #787, Volume #26 Fri, 12 Jan 01 05:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: forbid console login (Sebastian Hans)
mail server administration ("JH")
Any Linux lover want to defend this? (John Smith)
Re: Any Linux lover want to defend this? (William Kendrick)
Re: How to print? (Lew Pitcher)
updating with rpm(s) (Christoph Kukulies)
"ncurses"--help needed... ("Nitin")
Re: Changing block size without partitioning ("muzh")
Re: Mandrake 7.2 does not shut down properly ("Miloslaw Potrykus")
Re: RPM and matching (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: Partition overlapped ("Eric en Jolanda")
Re: L2-Cache of Pentium2 with Linux (fred smith)
Re: Newbie :HOw do i get my modem to pulse dial under linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Any Linux lover want to defend this? (Steve Lamb)
Re: Help! Printer doesn't stop printing!!! (Andr�)
Re: Can you recommend a good Linux book? (Michael Heiming)
Re: Any Linux lover want to defend this? (Michael Heiming)
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From: Sebastian Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: forbid console login
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:14:12 +0100
Payam Poursaied wrote:
> Hi,
> every one in our site can reach the linux server.
> but we want to limit users just telnet in or use ssh,
> and we don't want to permit anyone login from the consoles.
The hardware solution seems to be the easiest in this case:
Lock the doors.
seb
--
/ sebastian seb hans \ www.crosswinds.net/~sebh / attention this msg \
| student of comp sci \ yes is no and no is ns / will destroy itself |
\ techn univ of munich \ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / in one second .. rip /
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Reply-To: "JH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "JH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail server administration
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:19:21 GMT
Hi,
Any website talking about how to maintain, create, remove mail account?
I am trying to learn them.
Best Regards,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any Linux lover want to defend this?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:24:27 +0800
Dun get me wrong.
I'm a big fan of Linux and have been following Linux since Version 1.x time.
(Yeah, Linux refers to Kernel --I knew I knew)
I like Linux cos I it make me feel closer to the system and help me learn
alot how an OS function and I enjoy making things work.
Somehow, there just isn't a robust enough browser for Linux.
(Linux = Internet??? where's the browser?)
What ever version and whatever distribution, NETSCAPE will somehow crash
when u are unexpected. You just can use NETSCAPE for a long period of time
somehow. Konqueror is stilol young and doesn't render page as good as
NETSCAPE and java support is still baby.
Long before Microsoft, Unix has been dominating the Internet world and
NETSCAPE was once the prefered choice of browser before IE3.
For so many years. NETSCAPE just could mantain it's lead to be a leader and
keep letting IE having big leap.
Yeah, NETSCAPE Windows sucks big time too!
Sad to say most o the time to enjoy long hour surfing, I have to use
StarOffice which is never intend to be a browser and yet still robust
compare to NETSCAPE!
SUCK SUCK SUCK! Anyone like to defend that?
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Linux lover want to defend this?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:28:23 GMT
John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Dun get me wrong.
: I'm a big fan of Linux and have been following Linux since Version 1.x time.
: (Yeah, Linux refers to Kernel --I knew I knew)
Well, hehe... what does a browser have to do with the kernel!? :)
-bill!
(who prefers Lynx... it NEVER crashes! ;) )
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to print?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:36:57 -0500
"Andr�" wrote:
> Yes, but I would like to be sure that my printer is recieving data, so I
> wanted to make the simplest test.
>
> I tried apsfilter (I currently using Slackware) but the result is the
> same: it just says "Printing..." and stands there forever.
It sounds like you may have a compatability problem with your printer,
or your BIOS parallel port isn't configured correctly.
First off, what sort of printer do you have? Could it be a printer that
requires MSWindows?
2nd, what 'mode' is your parallelport set to in the BIOS?
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
Registered Linux User #112576
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From: Christoph Kukulies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: updating with rpm(s)
Date: 12 Jan 2001 07:50:46 GMT
I have a bunch of update rpms for RH 6.1 and would like to
install them. Earlier attempts to do this gave me a lot of
errors that packages were missing or already installed or
dependent of others etc etc.
I created a list of the files below and put an rpm --install
in front of every item.
Maybe it's not clever to use the alphabetical order
but which one?
MPEG-1.2.2-6.i386.rpm
Mesa-3.0-3.i386.rpm
ORBit-0.5.0-2.i386.rpm
ORBit-devel-0.5.0-2.i386.rpm
auctex-9.10g-2.i386.rpm
bind-8.2.2_P3-1.src.rpm
binutils-2.9.5.0.22-6.i386.rpm
control-center-1.0.51-1.src.rpm
cpp-1.1.2-30.i386.rpm
dhcp-2.0-5.i386.rpm
dhcpcd-1.3.18pl3-1.i386.rpm
e2fsprogs-1.17-1.i386.rpm
e2fsprogs-devel-1.17-1.i386.rpm
ee-0.3.11-1.src.rpm
egcs-1.1.2-30.i386.rpm
egcs-1.1.2-30.src.rpm
egcs-c++-1.1.2-30.i386.rpm
egcs-g77-1.1.2-30.i386.rpm
egcs-objc-1.1.2-30.i386.rpm
ext2resize-1.0.5-4.i386.rpm
glib-1.2.6-2.src.rpm
gnome-core-1.0.54-2.i386.rpm
gnome-core-devel-1.0.54-2.i386.rpm
gnome-games-1.0.51-3.src.rpm
gnome-libs-1.0.54-1.i386.rpm
gnome-libs-devel-1.0.54-1.i386.rpm
gnome-media-1.0.51-2.i386.rpm
gnome-napster-0.5.0-1.i386.rpm
gnome-pim-1.0.55-1.src.rpm
gnome-python-1.0.50-2.src.rpm
gnome-utils-1.0.50-1.i386.rpm
gnome-utils-1.0.50-1.src.rpm
gnomeicu-0.65-1.i386.rpm
gnumeric-0.38-8.src.rpm
gpm-1.19.1-1.i386.rpm
gpm-devel-1.19.1-1.i386.rpm
groff-1.15-1.i386.rpm
gsysinfo-1.0-0.i386.rpm
gtk+-1.2.6-1.src.rpm
gtk-engines-0.9-1.src.rpm
gtkglarea-1.2.1-1.i386.rpm
gtop-1.0.5-1.src.rpm
gv-3.5.8-9.i386.rpm
initscripts-4.70-1.i386.rpm
ipmasqadm-0.4.2-2.i386.rpm
ircii-4.4M-1.i386.rpm
krb5-1.1.1-21.src.rpm
krb5-configs-1.1.1-21.i386.rpm
krb5-devel-1.1.1-21.i386.rpm
krb5-libs-1.1.1-21.i386.rpm
krb5-server-1.1.1-21.i386.rpm
krb5-workstation-1.1.1-21.i386.rpm
krbafs-1.0-3.i386.rpm
krbafs-utils-1.0-3.i386.rpm
lesstif-0.89.9-2.i386.rpm
lesstif-current-1999.01.28-1.i386.rpm
libglade-0.7-1.src.rpm
libgtop-1.0.5-1.src.rpm
libtiff-3.5.4-1.i386.rpm
libtiff-3.5.4-1.src.rpm
libxml-1.7.3-1.src.rpm
linuxconf-1.16r10-2.i386.rpm
linuxconf-devel-1.16r10-2.i386.rpm
lpr-0.48-1.i386.rpm
lynx-2.8.2-3.i386.rpm
magicdev-0.2.6-1.src.rpm
mailcap-2.0.6-1.noarch.rpm
mailx-8.1.1-10.i386.rpm
mc-4.5.40-2.src.rpm
mpg123-0.59r-4.i386.rpm
multimedia-2.1-17.i386.rpm
netscape-common-4.72-6.i386.rpm
netscape-communicator-4.72-6.i386.rpm
netscape-navigator-4.72-6.i386.rpm
nmh-1.0.3-6x.i386.rpm
openldap-1.2.9-5.i386.rpm
openldap-1.2.9-6.src.rpm
orca
pam-0.68-10.i386.rpm
pam_krb5-1-7.i386.rpm
pam_krb5-1-7.src.rpm
popt-1.5-0.48.i386.rpm
ppp-2.3.10-3.i386.rpm
printer
rp3-1.0.7-4.i386.rpm
rp7.linux20.libc6.i386.b2.rpm
rpm-3.0.4-0.48.i386.rpm
rpm-build-3.0.4-0.48.i386.rpm
rpm-devel-3.0.4-0.48.i386.rpm
rpm2html-1.2-6.i386.rpm
rsh-0.16-12.i386.rpm
screen-3.9.4-3.src.rpm
sharutils-4.2.1-1.6.1.i386.rpm
special
sysklogd-1.3.31-14.i386.rpm
talk-0.16-4.i386.rpm
talk-server-0.16-4.i386.rpm
tcsh-6.09-4.i386.rpm
timetool-2.7.3-1.noarch.rpm
up2date-1.0.6-1.src.rpm
usermode-1.18-1.i386.rpm
wu-ftpd-2.6.0-1.src.rpm
xanim-2.80.1-7.i386.rpm
xemacs-21.1.8-4.i386.rpm
xemacs-el-21.1.8-4.i386.rpm
xemacs-extras-21.1.8-4.i386.rpm
xemacs-info-21.1.8-4.i386.rpm
xemacs-noX-21.1.8-4.i386.rpm
xftp.rpm
xgalaga-2.0-1.i386.rpm
xkeycaps-2.45-1.i386.rpm
xv-3.10a-15.i386.rpm
ypserv-1.3.9-1.i386.rpm
--
Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Nitin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: "ncurses"--help needed...
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 13:42:37 +0530
Hi,
I'm using menu library of ncurses library for development of a tool. While
executing a
program segmentation fault is coming, and core dumped. After several checks
I'm not able to find the bug. I'm running on RedHat Linux 6.2 and SuSE
Linux.
In the following program while execution of the instruction
menu[0] = new_menu(myitem);
segmentation fault is coming...
Program:
------------------------------------------------
#include<menu.h>
#include<stdlib.h>
#include<stdio.h>
main(){
char respo[10], act[10];
int res;
ITEM * myitem[2];
MENU * menu[1];
if((myitem[0] = new_item("Menu", "love")) == NULL ){
printf("\n Error on new item");
exit(1);
}
if((myitem[1] = new_item("Menu-2nd", "love")) == NULL ){
printf("\n Error on 2nd new item");
exit(1);
}
initscr(); /* Initilise the Curses*/
menu[0] = new_menu(myitem); / * Here segmentation fault is coming......core
dumped*/
printf("\n \t Response of new menu is:%d", menu);
getchar();
res = post_menu(menu[0]);
if(res != E_OK){
sprintf(respo, "Response of post is: %d", res);
addstr(respo);
move(5,35);
addstr(act);
}
refresh();
getch();
endwin();
}
--------------------------------------------------------
compiled with -lmenu and -lncurses libraries.
can anyone help me out.....?
Thanks in advance,
Nitin
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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Changing block size without partitioning
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 21:16:47 +1300
I donb't think so. Changing block sizes, like changing partition sizes,
is pretty equivalent to reformatting, anyway.
Partition Magic 5 is supposed to be able to do this magic for ext2
systems, but when I tried it I lost a bunch of files --
Recently, the keys of "John Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 's computer
randomly danced and produced <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
:
> Is it possible to change the block size on an ext2 filesystem without
> reformatting? Mine is currently 4096 and I would like to make 2048 or
> 1024.
--
Never trust a man in a suit
cll
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From: "Miloslaw Potrykus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 does not shut down properly
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:31:22 +0100
User "Chris Menzel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in article
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote...
> Since upgrading to Mandrake 7.2, shutdown is not able to shutdown. When
> "shutdown -r (or -h) now" is issued, the system reports that various
> processes are being shut down until I reach the message "No more processes
> this runlevel". At that point the system hangs. It is not dead; a
> Ctrl-Atl-Del, for example, generates disk activity. But it will not
> continue. I have to hit the reset button to reboot. This is a particular
> pain because the disks don't get unmounted, and so I have to wait the 5 or
> 6 minutes or so for fsck to do its thing.
>
> The problem appears to be independent of the kernel. The problem began
> with the 2.2.17 kernel that comes with Mandrake 7.2, but remained after I
> upgraded to the 2.4.0-ac6 kernel.
>
Look for /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/S01halt and /etc/rc.d/rc6.d/S01reboot files. If
they're missing (that's probably the problem) do:
ln -s /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/S01halt /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt
ln -s /etc/rc.d/rc0.d/S01reboot /etc/rc.d/init.d/halt
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Subject: Re: RPM and matching
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:47:28 GMT
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 01:43:26 -0500, Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|Neil Zanella wrote:
|>
|> Hello,
|>
|> Suppose I want to know the names of all installed RPM packages on my
|> system whose name starts in foo. Is there an rpm command to do this?
|>
|
|rpm -qa | grep foo
|
|hope this helps.
Or, more to the point,
rpm -qa | egrep '^foo'
for just those that *start* with 'foo'.
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.
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From: "Eric en Jolanda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Partition overlapped
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:41:18 +0100
> > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> > > /dev/hda1 1 64 514048+ 83 Linux
> > > /dev/hda2 65 319 2048287+ 83 Linux
> > > /dev/hda3 * 320 1057 5927985 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
> > > /dev/hda4 1058 2491 11518605 5 Extended
Wrong again................
hda4 is the wrong type.
It must be type 0x0F (LBA extended)
Change it, or lose data.
> > > /dev/hda5 1058 2030 7815591 83 Linux
> > > /dev/hda6 2031 2491 3702951 c Win95 FAT32 (LBA)
And hda6 need not be an LBA type. This wont hurt though.
You can leave this one as is.
> > >
> > > Lesson learned from above:
Appearantly not learned enough yet :-)
Eric
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: L2-Cache of Pentium2 with Linux
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:49:39 GMT
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Ralf Render wrote:
:>
:> Thanks Henrik,
:>
:> I think that is the point. My program does not have the cache for itself
:> because of the multitasking.
: That might obscure the results slightly, but I noticed little, if any,
: such obscuring when yesterday I ran the test Peter posted.
: In the little test, the dropoff as I exceeded the size of the L1 and L2
: caches was extremely well-pronounced, even though the machine was 0%
: idle both before and after the test because I was running two instances
: of the SETI@home program in the background (at nice 19). My process
: table typically has about 75 to 80 processes running (quite a lot of
: daemons), and 3 to 5 (but sometimes more) labelled "running" in top.
Just for kicks I ran it on my K6-2/350 (RH 6.2) and got what seem like
interesting results. I've got a FIC VA503+ motherboard which purports
to have a 1meg L2 cache. here's the test results:
*** MEMORY WRITE PERFORMANCE (256 MB LOOP) ***
size = 64 bytes: 853.333 MB/s
size = 128 bytes: 948.148 MB/s
size = 256 bytes: 984.615 MB/s
size = 512 bytes: 1024.000 MB/s
size = 1024 bytes: 984.615 MB/s
size = 2048 bytes: 1024.000 MB/s
size = 4096 bytes: 1066.667 MB/s
size = 8192 bytes: 1024.000 MB/s
size = 16384 bytes: 1024.000 MB/s
size = 32768 bytes: 984.615 MB/s
size = 65536 bytes: 193.939 MB/s <======== This makes sense, it's a
size = 131072 bytes: 193.939 MB/s 64kb L1 cache
size = 262144 bytes: 148.837 MB/s
size = 524288 bytes: 126.108 MB/s
size = 1048576 bytes: 100.787 MB/s <===== The drop-off around 1 meg
size = 2097152 bytes: 80.503 MB/s doesn't seem to be any greater than
size = 4194304 bytes: 75.294 MB/s the drop-offs that occur in a gradation
size = 8388608 bytes: 74.419 MB/s above it.
*** MEMORY READ PERFORMANCE (256 MB LOOP) ***
size = 64 bytes: 914.286 MB/s
size = 128 bytes: 1024.000 MB/s
size = 256 bytes: 1066.667 MB/s
size = 512 bytes: 1113.043 MB/s
size = 1024 bytes: 1113.043 MB/s
size = 2048 bytes: 1163.636 MB/s
size = 4096 bytes: 1113.043 MB/s
size = 8192 bytes: 1163.636 MB/s
size = 16384 bytes: 1163.636 MB/s
size = 32768 bytes: 1113.043 MB/s
size = 65536 bytes: 400.000 MB/s <===== Again, this looks right.
size = 131072 bytes: 400.000 MB/s
size = 262144 bytes: 290.909 MB/s
size = 524288 bytes: 241.509 MB/s
size = 1048576 bytes: 186.861 MB/s <==== more obvious dropoff here than
size = 2097152 bytes: 147.126 MB/s the one above, but not major.
size = 4194304 bytes: 134.031 MB/s
size = 8388608 bytes: 132.642 MB/s
note that there's a sharp drop-off at the 64kb point on both tests,
but much less sharp at 1 meg, especially on the first test. What I find
curious is that between 64kb and 1 meg there's a continuous and gradual
drop-off which seems to continue at about the same rate right on down
past the 1 meg point, at least in the first test. Does this tell me
something about the cahce-handling on my motherboard, or about how well
the K6-2 uses the cache, or maybe something else? Maybe it simply means
that the L2 cache is of low value for memory writes, less than for reads.
Fred
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----------------------------
"And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He
will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding
it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever."
=============================== Isaiah 9:7 (niv) ==============================
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Newbie :HOw do i get my modem to pulse dial under linux
Date: 12 Jan 2001 08:46:42 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Newbie :HOw do i get my modem to pulse dial under Corel linux
>
> --
"ATZ" <--- this: gets dial tone
10 "OK"
"ATDT2668400" <-- this: Tone-dials 2668400
60 "CONNECT"
CALL PPPMain.StartInst
Not a linux script. The AT codes belong to your modem, not linux.
===================
ATDP <number to dial> would pulse dial: T=tone, P=pulse.
The "AT" codes sent to your modem appear in file(s) depending on
what application sends to the modem.
My ppp connection has it somewhere in the /etc dir.
Chris Glur.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Subject: Re: Any Linux lover want to defend this?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 08:49:52 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:24:27 +0800, John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Somehow, there just isn't a robust enough browser for Linux.
>(Linux = Internet??? where's the browser?)
Links, lynx, Opera, Konquerer... *plonk?*
--
Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: Andr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Printer doesn't stop printing!!!
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:38:53 -0200
> [Author: Michel Catudal
> [Date: 11 Jan 2001 18:38:05 -0600
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] a �crit :
>>
>> Kill the lpd daemon, then empty out the printer spool directory then run
>> "checkpc -f"? (assuming you are on as root)
>
>On SuSE that command doesn't exist. Unless Andr� runs the same system as you
>he is out of luck.
Yes. I'm using Slackware, so this command doesn't exist to me. But
empting the spool directory worked for me.
Thanks.
--
� Andr� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can you recommend a good Linux book?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:52:49 +0100
Greg wrote:
> If you were on a desert island with your linux box, and were able to take
> only one reference / teaching book on Linux, what would it be???
>
> What do you think of O'Reilly's "Running Linux" and "Linux in a Nutshell"?
>
> I'm can't seem to find Linux tutorials that don't assume either, 1). I've
> never seen a computer before, or 2). I am an old kernel hacker who is
> reading the manual out of boredom.
>
> I am looking for resources, both in print and online that don't assume too
> much either way.
>
> Thanks for your time.
>
> Greg.
Hello,
I would recommend UNIX SYSTEM ADMINISTRATION HANDBOOK (Second edition) Evi
Nemeth - Garth Snyder a.o..
It's not linux specific and the part of Bind is not on the latest version (8)
but gives many clues and inside looking, in
how a Unix system works.
What I like most about it is, that it's right between your 1) and 2) for me,
not asuming you're this longhaired kernel hacker
and not asuming you know nothing about Unix.
Allthough you need many books, as Unix/Linux is in my opinion a universe on
it's own, if you're serious about it....
Good luck
Michael Heiming
Sysadmin
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www.vbag.de Michael Heiming ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Linux lover want to defend this?
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:59:40 +0100
John Smith wrote:
> Dun get me wrong.
>
> I'm a big fan of Linux and have been following Linux since Version 1.x time.
> (Yeah, Linux refers to Kernel --I knew I knew)
>
> I like Linux cos I it make me feel closer to the system and help me learn
> alot how an OS function and I enjoy making things work.
>
> Somehow, there just isn't a robust enough browser for Linux.
> (Linux = Internet??? where's the browser?)
>
> What ever version and whatever distribution, NETSCAPE will somehow crash
> when u are unexpected. You just can use NETSCAPE for a long period of time
> somehow. Konqueror is stilol young and doesn't render page as good as
> NETSCAPE and java support is still baby.
>
> Long before Microsoft, Unix has been dominating the Internet world and
> NETSCAPE was once the prefered choice of browser before IE3.
>
> For so many years. NETSCAPE just could mantain it's lead to be a leader and
> keep letting IE having big leap.
>
> Yeah, NETSCAPE Windows sucks big time too!
>
> Sad to say most o the time to enjoy long hour surfing, I have to use
> StarOffice which is never intend to be a browser and yet still robust
> compare to NETSCAPE!
>
> SUCK SUCK SUCK! Anyone like to defend that?
Hello,
your quite right that NS-"Crashicator" just sucks, it's a memory hog and slow
as hell,
even if I type this in NS 4.74, on a AMD K7 800 Mhz with 256 MB RAM it's OK,
but I don't
think that one should need such a fast machine just for browsing.
You can try Konqueror which comes with KDE and gets better and better with
every version,
lynx is quite nice but more intended for use in scripts with it's nice -dump
option....he,he...on
the other hand it's really fast/stable, just not downloading those pics and
other stuff saves a lot of time...:-)
Michael Heiming
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