Linux-Misc Digest #787, Volume #23 Wed, 8 Mar 00 12:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: ftp a directory? (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Salary? (Paul Jakma)
How to add SCSI controller/DAT drive (Abid Khan)
Re: ftp a directory? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Local mail delivery problem (RH6.1, Exim 3.12) (Indicatrix)
Re: Salary? ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Do you hate vi? (Raj Rijhwani)
Re: Do you hate vi? ({R})
ANNOUNCE: LinuxMonth Issue #1 is released ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Parallel Port Zip Drive problems (Andy9701)
Re: An optical allusion that will astound you, works on all spec pc's:) 420 ("Don
Oliver")
Testing for Winmodems (Andy9701)
Re: Printing (lpd) - Disabling Header Pages (Mike)
http://www.schoolbox.nl ("Schaapie")
WINE (again) (Norbert Zawodsky)
web-page design (Norbert Zawodsky)
Re: Salary? (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: closing browser window crashes netscape?!? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Salary? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Salary? ("Joseph T. Adams")
Re: Help w qmail MTA & Netscape IMAP folders? ("NASIR, SABIH")
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp a directory?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 10:52:47 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have setup a directory of webpages on my linux machine.
> I want to ftp this directory structure over to a Mac. Normally I would
> just create web.tar.gz, sftp web.tar.gz over to other machine, then use
> ssh to log onto that machine and do tar zvxf web.tar.gz to unpack the
> directory.
>
> However, there is no ssh available for Mac.
> The Mac admin says that Mac users use something called fetch which
> allows Macs to send a whole directory to another machine--apparently it
> uses some ftp protocol.
>
> Is there a way I can use ftp to send a whole directory to another
> machine? Something like mput but a whole directory, not just a bunch of
> separate files that match some characters.
Fetch is a normal graphical ftp-client. You can get it from
http://www.download.com. If your linux-box does not support normal
ftp-connections (ie unsecure), then you can't use fetch either.
There is NiftyTelnet for the mac which supports ssh, maybe you set it up
so it connect to your linux-box and then kind-of tunnel the fetch
through this?
*shrug*
HTH,
-Jan
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http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
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From: Paul Jakma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:54:04 +0000
> Houses are very unreasonably priced on both coasts of the U.S.
> They're much more affordable in between ($100K gets you a decent 3
> bedroom in the middle class suburbs of Cleveland;
$100k for a 3 bedroom house? wow! In Ireland 3 bedroom house with 2
toilets, large kitchen, dining room, living room would cost at least IEP
�120k (about $150k). And that would be for a house in the far off
suburbs off dublin, eg Lucan, Leixlip, Maynooth. (ie 30 to 50minutes
away from dublin. 1hour+ in rush hour).
For a house closer to dublin, eg 20min, you'd pay at least double that.
My parents sold my gran's house about 7 years after she'd died for
�110k. It's a 4 bedroom bungalow in churchtown, reasonably close to the
city centre. It was put up for sale again a couple of months ago and
fetched �500k (~$750m).
South of England is even worse i've heard. You'll pay UKP �300k for a
small house down there..
Salaries: PC tech's get around IEP �18-25k salary, Unix specialists can
expect �25-45k, consultants: sky's the limit. Tax is 46% + 5% or so in
social insurance (which is not optional). Food is expensive. (you'll pay
at least �50 a week to feed yourself). Drink is expensive, but we do it
anyway cause Guiness is just impossible to resist. Petrol is expensive.
(but not as expensive as the UK). Finally: it rains here.. all the
bloody time. So we invariably have to spend most of our time indoors -
the pub preferably. :)
The only benefit to europe is that we get to drive better cars with
real suspension and gears at much higher speeds than the yanks. I
wouldn't dream of driving at /less than/ 80MPH down the motorway. :) and
even round town you tend to do about 50 when there's no traffic.
And finally we don't have to worry about getting shot here. From
television it sometimes seems like you couldn't walk down a street in
the US without getting mugged. :) (cops here in Ireland don't need
guns)
and finally, we don't speak with that awful nasal accent that the yanks
do.. thanks be to god.
:)
> Joe
-paul.
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From: Abid Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to add SCSI controller/DAT drive
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:48:37 GMT
Red Hat Version 6.0
I need to add a Adaptec SCSI 1542CF controller and a Seagate DAT drive
in Red Hat Linux ver 6.0, I am new to Linux, can someone tell me the
commands, and how to add devices and re-build the kernel.
Thanks in advance
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ftp a directory?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:52:13 GMT
Apparently ncftp is supposed to let you get or put a whole directory
put -r directoryname
I can ftp to the machine in question, but I CANNOT make a connection
with ncftp!
>ncftp
NcFTP 3.0.0 beta 19 (June 11, 1999) by Mike Gleason.
ncftp> open mac.machine
Connecting to
123.456.789...
FTP server ready.
FTP login
failed.
Not logged in.
I haven't used ncftp before. Any ideas why ncftp won't make a connection
but ftp will??
Thanks!
Bill
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From: Indicatrix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Local mail delivery problem (RH6.1, Exim 3.12)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:50:06 GMT
Hi,
I'm having trouble getting mail to work properly on a RedHat 6.1 system
in which I have replaced Sendmail with Exim 3.12. I connect to the
internet via a dial-up connection and exim properly queues and then
sends the mail. However, fetchmail can not deliver the mail to the user.
So far, I sent mail to myself and then retrieved it with fetchmail.
There were no error messages, but the message did not arrive in my
inbox. Instead, it remained in the queue waiting to be delivered.
I dialed up again and apparently the queued message got sent out again,
since it disappeared from the queue. I ran fetchmail again and got the
following error message (but no message in the queue).
Error message:
1 message for XXX at mail.my_isp.com (2570 octets).
reading message 1 of 1 (2570 octets) fetchmail: can't even send to
stephen!
fetchmail: SMTP transaction error while fetching from mail.my_isp.com
fetchmail: Query status=10
And here is some additional information:
/etc/hosts:
127.0.0.1 localhost mugwump.localdomain
/etc/exim.conf for Exim 3.12: (only a small bit of it)
######################################################################
# MAIN CONFIGURATION SETTINGS #
######################################################################
primary_hostname = mugwump.localdomain
qualify_domain = mugwump.localdomain
# If you want unqualified recipient addresses to be qualified with a
different
# domain to unqualified sender addresses, specify the recipient domain
here.
# If this option is not set, the qualify_domain value is used.
# qualify_recipient =
local_domains = localhost:mugwump.localdomain
# local_domains_include_host_literals
forbid_domain_literals
never_users = root
# The use of your host as a mail relay by any host, including the local
host
# calling its own SMTP port, is locked out by default. If you want to
permit
# relaying from the local host, you should set
#
host_accept_relay = localhost
.
.
.
[the rest is default settings, except for the stuff about the smarthost]
Finally, here is an error message when it bounced back:
Reporting-MTA: dns; mail.my_isp.com
Received-From-MTA: dns; mugwump.localdomain (unverified [207.195.72.12])
Arrival-Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 19:45:23 -0600
Final-Recipient: rfc822; stephen@localhost
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1 (Permanent failure - security: delivery not authorised,
message refused)
Remote-MTA: dns; localhost
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 501 5.7.1 This system is not configured to relay
mail from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> to <stephen@localhost> for 127.0.0.1
I hope someone can help...
Stephen
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 8 Mar 2000 16:03:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Seriously, though. Am I nuts for considering a $35,000 starting
: salary, straight out of college, for a position that:
: a) appears be closer to the 40 hrs/wk than the 80+ extreme
: b) will put me in a position to learn Solaris and Cisco on top
: of my Linux background
Remember that skills gained translate directly into increased
employability and earning potential down the road.
If you can afford to live on $35k for now, then the added value of
being able to learn Solaris and Cisco would make it well worth
considering over options that might pay more but have less potential
to contribute to your long-term growth.
: c) could very well turn out to be my 'dream' job opportunity
: (a marriage, of sorts, of the two things that I dive into most
: passionately - a career out of my hobbies of choice and academic
: area of study, more or less).
: I have 4 years of Linux experience, but no real "on-the-job" Linux
: experience (unless you count the frenetic, chaotic, haphazard and
: half-assed environment of a pre-launch privately funded Internet
: startup).
: I won't say it's what I had my fingers crossed for. But I've done
: the math; I can certainly live comfortably on what they're offering,
: and to my thinking the pluses outweigh a simple dollars-and-sense
: figure (quality of life and quality of work over a few extra bucks
: at the end of the month).
: Or am I being naive?
Quality of life matters far more in the end to most people.
Money is one piece of it, but far from being the only or the most
important one.
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 13:01:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian" writes:
> <alt>z
Control-Z actually.
You mean you didn't resort to hex-coding in debug?
(OK, ok, that was a joke - just in case someone thinks I
was serious...)
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,comp.editors,comp.unix.misc
Subject: Re: Do you hate vi?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: {R} <{R}@soggy.semolina.org>
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:15:41 GMT
On Tue, 7 Mar 2000 20:48:13 -0800, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
}Hi Phil:
}
}RST wrote in message ...
}>Phil Launchbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
}
}
}>wimps, allo'ya.
}
}>C:\> type CON > file.txt
}
}You forgot:
}<alt>z
}To end console to file job.
Type is a DOS output to STDIO command,
Probably copy con program.exe is what is required
Ctrl Z is EOF
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Subject: ANNOUNCE: LinuxMonth Issue #1 is released
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:08:50 GMT
The first issue of LinuxMonth is now online at:
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From: Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Parallel Port Zip Drive problems
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:11:42 GMT
I'm having some problems getting my zip drive to work under RedHat 6.
When I was using the 2.2.5 kernel, I had no problems. However, when I
compiled my own kernel using version 2.3.48, I can't mount it any
more. I built the parport and ppa modules into the kernel so I
wouldn't have to load them manually, but when I try to mount the zip
drive (it's at /dev/sd4 on my system), I get an error saying that the
device has the wrong major or minor version number.
To me, that means I need to somehow upgrade my device, I think...but
then again that doesn't really make much sense. Any ideas how I could
get my zip drive working under the new kernel?
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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From: "Don Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: An optical allusion that will astound you, works on all spec pc's:) 420
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:10:44 -0800
Whatever it is, it is definitely not an "allusion" :-)
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From: Andy9701 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Testing for Winmodems
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:16:24 GMT
Currently, I don't know if my modem is a Winmodem or not, or if it will
work for Linux. I'm guessing that it won't, but I'd like to be
certain. Is there any way to test if my modem is a Winmodem? If it
isn't, how would I go about setting it up? Is there a modemconfig or
something similar?
Thanks in advance,
Andy
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From: Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Printing (lpd) - Disabling Header Pages
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:30:25 GMT
Hi,
Thanks for the response. I ended up taking a slightly different approach,
ie. all lpr submitted jobs now use an alias with the -h flag, and all Win
9x jobs go through Samba with the /etc/smb.conf setup to specify lpr -h.
Both these approaches are to my mind less than perfect, ideally the
/etc/printcap 'sh' option should work ! I wonder why it only seems to be
JetDirect cards which suffer this problem ?
Regards,
Mike
L J Bayuk wrote:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Using RedHat 6.0 & lpr printing to HP JetDirect connected printers I
just
> >cannot switch off the header pages ie.
> >...
> >I have other printers which are connected via lpr/lpd which do not print
> >header pages. What is actually generating these pages ? Is it the
JetDirect
> >card, if so can I switch it off ?
>
> Yes it is the JetDirect card, one of their slightly annoying features.
> You have to telnet to the card's IP address, ask for help (type ?),
> it it will show you how to turn the header page off.
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From: "Schaapie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: http://www.schoolbox.nl
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:35:36 +0100
http://www.schoolbox.nl
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From: Norbert Zawodsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WINE (again)
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:39:30 +0100
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Hi folks!
I'm a bit confused about WINE. On http://www.winehq.com/about.html you can
read that wine does *NOT* require Windows being installed on the system.
With YAST on my running Linux (SUSE 6.3) I read in the package description
of wine "... Additionally you will need an installed MS-Windows on your
system..."
Which one is right then?
Norbert
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From: Norbert Zawodsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: web-page design
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 17:43:16 +0100
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Hi again!
Which web-page design program would you gurus out there recommend?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 8 Mar 2000 16:44:32 GMT
On Wed, 08 Mar 2000 15:54:04 +0000, Paul Jakma wrote:
>And finally we don't have to worry about getting shot here. From
>television it sometimes seems like you couldn't walk down a street in
>the US without getting mugged. :) (cops here in Ireland don't need
>guns)
You're pretty much right on. The risk of getting assaulted in the US is
relatively low, but a *lot* of people are robbed, usually at gun point. Of
course a lot of the people I know are living in Newark or
Manhattan/Queens/Brooklyn -- more suburban places are much safer.
BTW, the cops here not only carry guns, those NYPD guys use them and boy
do they have itchy trigger fingers ( hardly helps that the mayor of NYC
acts like the NYPD's sock puppet )
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: closing browser window crashes netscape?!?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 16:50:36 GMT
On Tue, 07 Mar 2000 14:14:10 -0500, thomas park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I'm having this very strange problem with Netscape - closing a browser
>window will randomly cause Netscape to crash (exits all open Netscape
>windows, including browser, messenger, etc.) This doesn't happen
>consistently, perhaps about 30% of the time that I close a window.
>
>Does anybody know of a fix for this? I'm using Mandrake Linux 7.0,
>with XF86/Mach 64 3.3.6, WindowMaker 0.61.1 (from source), and Netscape
>4.7. Thanks for your reply -
I would suspect some kind of library conflict. I have similar setup:
RH6.1, XSVGA 3.3.6, Windowmaker .61, NS 4.7[1,2] (Naviagor only), and do
not ever recall this particular crash. Just the java crashes
occasionally now and again.
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From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:34:36 -0800
"Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8a5tju$atu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> : Seriously, though. Am I nuts for considering a $35,000 starting
> : salary, straight out of college, for a position that:
> : a) appears be closer to the 40 hrs/wk than the 80+ extreme
> : b) will put me in a position to learn Solaris and Cisco on top
> : of my Linux background
>
> Remember that skills gained translate directly into increased
> employability and earning potential down the road.
>
> If you can afford to live on $35k for now, then the added value of
> being able to learn Solaris and Cisco would make it well worth
> considering over options that might pay more but have less potential
> to contribute to your long-term growth.
I agree. I think the most important factor in your career now (and always)
is to do jobs that will take you where you want to go, skill wise. In the
new economy, the motto is "learn or die." More than ever, you have to look
at each job as a steppingstone to somewhere else. This has always been
true, but it really is skills, experience, and the ability to perform now,
rather than politics and positioning.
Is this job something that you want to do now, and will it give you the
skills to let you do what you want to do next? Are you gaining skills for
which demand will increase in the next few years?
So, forget the money, except...
I think 35K might be too low for someone of your education and experience,
at least in a major tech market. 10 grand more sounds more like it.
I suggest you look through the big websites like Cnet for salary surveys, if
you haven't already done so.
Matt O.
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From: "Joseph T. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Salary?
Date: 8 Mar 2000 16:59:45 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:
:> In the US, you get great value for your money if you actually have money,
:> but if you're poor, you're screwed.
:
: Matt, you've just summed up life in the USA in one succinct sentence.
Except that there is still a great deal of upward mobility here.
People who work hard, live within their means, and make reasonably
intelligent life choices can often improve their financial and social
status tremendously. I'm living proof of that, and so are at least
several other regular posters here.
A surprisingly and saddeningly large amount of poverty persists in the
U.S., but much of it can be explained by the breakdown of the family,
our dismal "education" system, institutionalized racism and other
forms of corruption, and the relatively recent demise of much of our
heavy industry, which used to provide well-paying employment for
unskilled and semi-skilled workers.
Joe
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From: "NASIR, SABIH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.admin.isp,linux.debian.consultants,linux.debian.user,linux.misc,netscape.public.admin,netscape.public.mozilla.mail-news,netscape.public.mozilla.unix
Subject: Re: Help w qmail MTA & Netscape IMAP folders?
Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2000 11:33:49 -0500
What version of the Messaging Server are you running? and what version of
the client are you running?
Netscape's implementation of the IMAP protocol is very strange. Their
design intent doesn't support a "move" function. So, when you do a delete or
Move to Trash, it actually copies the message to Trash and marks the one in
the Inbox for deletion. Until you expunge your inbox, you will not be able
to get rid of that message. There is no obvious way of expunging the
folders on the servers. If you look at the File -> Compact folders option,
this will only compress the local folders. To compress folders and
subfolders on the server, you will have to right click on each folder and
then compress it individually.
That should make the copies disappear. The other option would be to choose
"mark as deleted" as an option and basically expunge the folders as needed.
It must be noted that all the things that you have been mentioning deal with
the client side and really don't have any bearing on the Messaging server
(at least not from my experience)
Tom Heer wrote:
> I have setup Corel Linux running qmail as an imap/smtp mail server. All
> of my users use Netscape to do mail chores on both Windows & the Linux
> machine.
>
> When a user sets thier mail preferences in Netscape to "Move it to the
> Trash Folder" for 'Deleted Items',
> (Preferences->Mail & Newsgroups->Mail Servers->Edit->IMAP), then deletes
>
> a message, the message dissappears briefly, then reappears in the Inbox.
>
> Likewise, If a user creates any folders in thier IMAP Inbox, then tries
> to move a message to it, the message dissapears briefly, then reappears
> in the Inbox.
>
> Anybody now how to make these two programs work properly together? Would
>
> a POP3 email solution be a better one for a newbie, even though I am not
>
> serving any dialup users? You input and any help is truly appreciated.
>
> /tom
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