Linux-Misc Digest #796, Volume #20 Sat, 26 Jun 99 10:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Which Linux for beginner? (Christopher Michael Collins ())
--glFtpD-- SOURCE CODE? ("test")
Passing parameters to linuxrc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How do I find out how much disk space is free (John Quinn)
Re: glib & gtk+ ???? HELP!!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Which Linux for beginner? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic] (Martin Dickopp)
Re: perl script for URLs? (Jonathan Stowe)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News ("John Hughes")
Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux? (AGX)
The System.map problems (AGX)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest
News (Robin Becker)
Re: glib & gtk+ ???? HELP!!! (David Goldstein)
Re: Terminal File Manager ("T.E.Dickey")
removing corrupt files ("Ted George")
Re: Help with crontab (DanH)
Re: Help with crontab (Sudsy)
[Fwd: Missing Library] (lclyman)
Re: removing corrupt files (Bill Voight)
Automatic FTP a file ("Adam Armstrong")
Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues. (Christopher B. Browne)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Michael Collins ())
Subject: Re: Which Linux for beginner?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 07:54:31 GMT
Artur Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I came across the Slakware and RedHat Linux. Which one
>should I install?
Linux-Mandrake
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From: "test" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: --glFtpD-- SOURCE CODE?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:18:29 GMT
Anyone know where to get source code for this ftp daemon?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Passing parameters to linuxrc
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:47:14 GMT
Is it possiable to pass parameters to linuxrc on an initrd using
loadlin? How?
Thanks,
lozz
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Quinn)
Subject: Re: How do I find out how much disk space is free
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 23:19:22 GMT
Reply-To: n/a
On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:18:10 GMT, "Cliff J." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>'df'
>
cheers
john
>John Quinn wrote:
>
>> I am running Suse 6.1. Could any one tell me what is
>> the command to find out how much disk space I have
>> free. I am unable to install any packages and I think I
>> have used all the space available, but I do not know
>> the command to find out how much free space on
>> the hard disk I have free.
>>
>> thanks.
>>
>> john
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: glib & gtk+ ???? HELP!!!
Date: 26 Jun 1999 11:01:56 GMT
Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
= This is probably going to be an easy one.
= When I try to install some rpm files on redhat 5.2, I get an
= error message that says:
= failed dependencies:
= glib >= 1.2.2 is needed by ____________
= gtk+ >= 1.2.2 is needed by ____________
= this has happened with GNOME and XMMS. Can someone please
= tell me what these glib and gtk+ are and where I can get the
= latest version?
http://www.gtk.org
= I would like these in .rpm format if I can get it, but if
= not, I'll settle for something else.
It's probably best to get them as source. That way, they're compiled for
your system and will probably be more efficient...
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| |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack in |
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| |move, with no hope of rescue. |
|Andrew Halliwell |Consider how lucky you are that life has been good |
|Principal subjects in:-|to you so far... |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy. |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ |
|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Which Linux for beginner?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 11:02:50 GMT
Christopher Michael Collins () <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently
scribble:
= Artur Leung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= >I came across the Slakware and RedHat Linux. Which one
= >should I install?
= Linux-Mandrake
SuSE 6.1
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| |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack in |
|[EMAIL PROTECTED] |the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you can't |
| |move, with no hope of rescue. |
|Andrew Halliwell |Consider how lucky you are that life has been good |
|Principal subjects in:-|to you so far... |
|Comp Sci & Electronics | -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy. |
==============================================================================
|GCv3.1 GCS/EL>$ d---(dpu) s+/- a- C++ U N++ K- w-- M+/++ PS+++ PE- Y t+ 5++ |
|X+/++ R+ tv+ b+ D G e>PhD h/h+ !r! !y-|I can't say F**K either now! >*SULK*<|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Dickopp)
Subject: Re: Viral matters [completely off-topic]
Date: 26 Jun 1999 11:39:23 GMT
In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.990625132506.1451B-100000@dbc-pc>,
Dan Carson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unfortunately, "hacking root" is getting more practical all the time. For
> some reason, some people want Linux to "compete" with Microsoft. So in the
> interest of making Linux "easy to use", the Standard Operating Procedure
> is becoming:
>
> 1. Download anything you see on the net with a '.rpm' extension.
>
> 2. su root.
>
> 3. Type rpm -whatever.
>
> 4. Voila! Something happened! I have no idea what, but whatever it was,
> it ran as root!
>
> Now maybe /bin/ls is suid root and does something in addition to the
> standard functionality.
Unfortunately, it seems to become more and more common among
commercial software vendors to ship their Linux software in rpm format
only. If you're concerned about the security and integrity of your
box, this means unpacking the package without running any script, and
then manually figuring out what the scripts would do. I've done this,
it can be very time consuming if the installation scripts are
relatively complex.
> Am I just being paranoid?
When it comes to security, one cannot be paranoid enough. :)
Cheers,
Martin
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From: Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: perl script for URLs?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 10:51:28 -0000
Reply-To: Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
In comp.lang.perl.misc Jon Skeet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I'm looking for a perl script that will take a plain
>> text list of URLS and turn them in to a clickable
>> list that works in a browser like Netscape. Does
>> anyone know of such a beast?
>
> Not that I had one, but it's not the hardest script in the world to
> write :)
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
>
> print "<html><body>\n";
>
> while (<>)
> {
> chomp;
> print "<a href=\"$_\">$_</a>\n";
> }
>
> print "</body></html>\n";
>
Of course it isnt anything to do with Perl but I think that you might
either want to replace that "\n" on every row with "<BR>\n" or use
a list as Bart suggested .
/J\
--
Jonathan Stowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Some of your questions answered:
<URL:http://www.btinternet.com/~gellyfish/resources/wwwfaq.htm>
Hastings: <URL:http://www.newhoo.com/Regional/UK/England/East_Sussex/Hastings>
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From: "John Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:17:32 +0100
Why do they seem minor?
Encarta is a Microsoft product. They can edit it as they please.
I dont think ZDnet would allow this.
Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <7l280k$1d9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hughes
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >How about these? Did MS cheat also? ;)
> >
> >http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2256617,00.html
> >
> >http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/jumps/0,4270,401961,00.html
> >
> >
> ...
> a bit off topic, but an article in my paper, the Independent, states
> that M$'s encarta has different versions for different countries. If M$
> can claim in the US that Edison (October 1879) invented the electric
> light bulb before Swan (February 1879) then a few adjustments to
> benchmark results seem minor. Apparently the M$ mouthpiece says these
> sort of 'facts' aren't always black and white etc etc.
>
> It was Orwell's 1984 that had the 'Ministry of Truth', but I wonder if,
> now that we have the technology, it's becoming a reality.
> --
> Robin Becker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AGX)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Visual Programming Tools for Linux?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 11:51:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Megido is Delphi-like: www.megido.org
I checked this some month ago
it seems unusable, or maybe they haven't developed anything :-)
>VDKBuilder is BCB-like: www.guest.net/homepages/mmotta/VDKHome
Ok, but i feel this too complicated to use
I suggest to checkout the "GLADE" project, seems
better to me.
However i prefer to code using normal texteditor.
Gtk is really ease to use compared to other
toolkits.
Regards,
AGX
www.linux.it/~agx/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AGX)
Subject: The System.map problems
Date: 26 Jun 1999 11:51:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
i have a problem with the system.map running different kernels.
The problem is that i use two version of the same kernel
one with only EIDE support and another with SCSI support.
Why the System.map files is now (with kernels 2.2.x)
strictly required ???
There is a workaround for this ?
Thanx in advance,
AGX
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft
Retest News
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:42:39 +0100
In article <7l2cv5$1k9f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hughes
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Why do they seem minor?
they seem minor to me in that changing the past seems to me somehow more
serious.
>
>Encarta is a Microsoft product. They can edit it as they please.
>
>I dont think ZDnet would allow this.
>
>Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <7l280k$1d9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hughes
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>> >How about these? Did MS cheat also? ;)
>> >
>> >http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2256617,00.html
>> >
>> >http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/jumps/0,4270,401961,00.html
>> >
>> >
>> ...
>> a bit off topic, but an article in my paper, the Independent, states
>> that M$'s encarta has different versions for different countries. If M$
>> can claim in the US that Edison (October 1879) invented the electric
>> light bulb before Swan (February 1879) then a few adjustments to
>> benchmark results seem minor. Apparently the M$ mouthpiece says these
>> sort of 'facts' aren't always black and white etc etc.
>>
>> It was Orwell's 1984 that had the 'Ministry of Truth', but I wonder if,
>> now that we have the technology, it's becoming a reality.
>> --
>> Robin Becker
>
>
--
Robin Becker
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From: David Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: glib & gtk+ ???? HELP!!!
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:11:43 +0200
Eric Wyles wrote:
<snipped>
>
> failed dependencies:
> glib >= 1.2.2 is needed by ____________
> gtk+ >= 1.2.2 is needed by ____________
>
> this has happened with GNOME and XMMS. Can someone please
> tell me what these glib and gtk+ are and where I can get the
> latest version?
I just downloaded and installed these on my SuSY system this morning.
If you go to ftp://ftp.gtk.org, you will find the files there. I
downloaded and installed the tarballs with no problems :)
David
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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Terminal File Manager
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 12:59:57 GMT
Tom Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I personally (along with many other people) use Midnight Commander
> (mc). I find it to be extremely fast on even the slowest machines.
> It does have many options. But it required no setup and it does all
> the major file operations with a single keystroke.
> Why would we switch?
I don't have any use for it because it doesn't do the operations I most
frequently use in my own directory editor (manipulation of arbitrary
lists of files and interfaces with RCS and SCCS).
(It's fine for people who make casual use of a file manager - however I
am not impressed with the fact that it only builds with gcc)
> Tom
--
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey
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From: "Ted George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: removing corrupt files
Date: 26 Jun 1999 12:57:56 GMT
hello,
i have a few odd looking entries in an ext2 filesystem as follows:
d--Srwxr-- 21588 19796 18464 168640076 Dec 18 2001 ebaypix.jpg
br-s--xr-x 21573 29283 19772 97, 108 Jan 15 1977 ebaypix1.jpg
?--x--S--x 23328 21071 12334 1329799202 Aug 21 2027 ebaypix2.jpg
these are kernel log messages that i believe are related while processing
these files:
Jun 24 23:45:55 xxx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
Jun 24 23:45:55 xxx kernel: 08:12: rw=0, want=1953391989, limit=3935925
when i try and remove these files i get an "Operation not permitted" error.
i have tried
umounting the filesystem and running fsck, but it says there is nothing
wrong.
does anyone know how to force fsck to do a low level check, or how to
modify
these files into a form that will allow access to remove them. thanks in
advance.
ted
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From: DanH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help with crontab
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:24:22 -0400
Ken Gray wrote:
> One thing I like to do with my crontab is to enter this in my root crontab:
>
> * * * * * touch /tmp/.crond_running
>
> This will touch a file called .crond_running every minute, so if you have
> any doubts about cron running, just look at the date/time of the file. If
> it's within a minute of your system time, cron is running. If it's more
> than a minute, you'll know it died. Just remember to look at it with the
> -a flag!
How about 'ps -aux |grep cron' and you'll see if cron is running. In
Solaris it'd be 'ps -ef |grep cron'.
Dan
--
UNIX - Not just for vestal virgins anymore
Linux - Choice of a GNU generation
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From: Sudsy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Help with crontab
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:37:32 -0400
I can't vouch for your particular system, but I've never worked on a system
where cron has died. As one of the oldest, simplest and most robust of the
system utilities, I no more worry about cron dying than I do inetd. JMHO.
DanH wrote:
> Ken Gray wrote:
>
> > One thing I like to do with my crontab is to enter this in my root crontab:
> >
> > * * * * * touch /tmp/.crond_running
> >
> > This will touch a file called .crond_running every minute, so if you have
> > any doubts about cron running, just look at the date/time of the file. If
> > it's within a minute of your system time, cron is running. If it's more
> > than a minute, you'll know it died. Just remember to look at it with the
> > -a flag!
>
> How about 'ps -aux |grep cron' and you'll see if cron is running. In
> Solaris it'd be 'ps -ef |grep cron'.
>
> Dan
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From: lclyman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Fwd: Missing Library]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:19:09 +0100
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Subject: Missing Library
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When trying to configure and install WebMaker I get the following error
message during configuration::
"no acceptable C++ compiler found in $PATH "..
Can anyone tell me what I need to do here?
Is that a compiler that I need to install off the LM 6.0 CD?
Any help is greatly appreciated
lclyman
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From: Bill Voight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: removing corrupt files
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 09:57:07 -0400
Ted,
Have you tried chmod'ing the files and adding the write permission?
BV
Ted George wrote:
> hello,
>
> i have a few odd looking entries in an ext2 filesystem as follows:
>
> d--Srwxr-- 21588 19796 18464 168640076 Dec 18 2001 ebaypix.jpg
> br-s--xr-x 21573 29283 19772 97, 108 Jan 15 1977 ebaypix1.jpg
> ?--x--S--x 23328 21071 12334 1329799202 Aug 21 2027 ebaypix2.jpg
>
> these are kernel log messages that i believe are related while processing
> these files:
>
> Jun 24 23:45:55 xxx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
> Jun 24 23:45:55 xxx kernel: 08:12: rw=0, want=1953391989, limit=3935925
>
> when i try and remove these files i get an "Operation not permitted" error.
> i have tried
> umounting the filesystem and running fsck, but it says there is nothing
> wrong.
> does anyone know how to force fsck to do a low level check, or how to
> modify
> these files into a form that will allow access to remove them. thanks in
> advance.
>
> ted
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From: "Adam Armstrong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Automatic FTP a file
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 13:05:02 +1000
I need to write a shell to automatically FTP one file to a secure FTP site
from a Linux machine.
What I am attempting in the FTP command line program is
ftp sitename
(automatically put in username and password)
cd directory
put local file
quit
ANy suggestions how I can automate this program
Adam Armstrong
Systems Manager
BES Information Technology Systems
Brisbane, QLD Australia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.text.sgml
Subject: Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:12:33 GMT
On 26 Jun 1999 01:22:43 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In gnu.misc.discuss, Cameron L Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> There's a thing called /usr/doc/sgml-base. It's about "entity
>> management." A classic case of useless "documentation." That is,
>> documentation for people who don't need any documentation because they
>> already know more about the subject than is revealed in the
>> "documentation."
>
>Welcome to the current sorry state of SGML documentation. A while back, I
>looked through a whole bunch of web pages and sgmltools-related packages
>trying to find some usable documentation. The only thing I managed to
>find were DTDs and documentation that read like DTDs.
>
>I've had far more than enough of reading DTDs for one lifetime, thank you.
>They do not constitute documentation.
>
>The SGML folks appear to have done what the LDAP standardization folks
>also seem to be doing, namely invent a brand new language to talk about
>what they do. I'm sure it must work quite well for them, and I can see
>the utility in having well-defined terms, but they have to also write
>documentation that explains this to the rest of the world or no one is
>going to *use* anything they produce.
I rather think that what has happened instead is the oft-described situation
of working hard on making the tools work, and then not having the energy
left over to fully document what they've done.
Of course, there is hopefully a light at the end of the tunnel, which RMS
would likely regard as an oncoming locomotive, seeing as how an O'Reilly
book is supposed to be coming out pretty soon on DocBook and Norm Walsh's
DSSSL stylesheets. <http://nwalsh.com>
Seeing as how this isn't "free" documentation, some will not approve, and
the release of it by O'Reilly after the Perl "Debacle" (Tom, you're
*intended* to laugh at this one...), this probably represents further
gasoline on the fire.
Oh, well...
--
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
-- Henry Spencer <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/sgml.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."
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