Linux-Misc Digest #800, Volume #20               Sat, 26 Jun 99 19:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: trouble with CS4232 sound card (John Hong)
  Re: Third level domains: how can I create them? (Bill Unruh)
  NetCom (Gale L McMurray)
  Re: xdiff / graphical merge utility? ("T.E.Dickey")
  Re: Using VMWARE with preinstalled Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Which Linux for beginner? (John Hong)
  Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work? (Stewart Honsberger)
  Re: New FAQ needed for SB-AWE (Stewart Honsberger)
  ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux? (Jenni G)
  Re: Mounting Troubles (jik-)
  problems installing gtk+ 1.2.3 from tarball... (Eric Wyles)
  Re: removing corrupt files (Juergen Heinzl)
  Re: CD player - no sound (Andrey Zmievski)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (NF Stevens)
  Re: problems installing gtk+ 1.2.3 from tarball... (Eric Wyles)
  Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing (Helge Oldach)
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest News
  Re: Commercially speaking....? ("Anthony W. Youngman")
  Re: Shared libs: DLL hell for Linux ("Anthony W. Youngman")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: trouble with CS4232 sound card
Date: 26 Jun 1999 20:28:25 GMT

LittleElmo ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

: Installed drivers:
: Type 21: CS4232
: Type 22: CS4232 MIDI
: Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM

        There should be something else here, like /dev/audio or /dev/dsp, 
make sure that is installed, too.  Remove the OPL-2/OPL-3 entry.

: Card config:
: (CS4232 MIDI at 0x330 irq 9 drq 0)
: CS4232 at 0x530 irq 7 drq 1,0

        Change thr 530 address to 534, and make the IRQ 5 instead of 7.

: Also, I don't have an /etc/conf.modules or and /etc/modules.conf
: file.  How do I generate one????

        After make bzImage, do a make modules and make modules_install.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: Third level domains: how can I create them?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 19:47:48 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Scientia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Let's imagine that one domain of mine is called  example.com .
>How can I create domains like  newdomain.example.com ?

You need to run a DNS a domain name server, so that when something on
the net looks for newdomain.example.com, that query will come to your
ISPs DNS (for example.com) who will pass it on to your DNS. That is what
the named daemon does-- answers name queries. Your ISP also has to pass
on requests to you when they come in to their machine.

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From: Gale L McMurray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: NetCom
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:49:42 +0100

Dear Group:

This newbie can't quite make all the right steps for connecting to my
ISP, Netcom.  They are not any help.

Has anyone connected to Netcom. Am using RH 6.0 and the Netscape browser
supplied with it. USR modem is working well.

Thanks

Gale McMurray
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "T.E.Dickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xdiff / graphical merge utility?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:50:48 GMT

Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 14:51:19 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have gotten excited about some new tcl/tk program maybe four times
> so far. EVERY TIME, it required some custom build of one, if not both, of the
> libraries.

> The ones I remember off the top of my head were:
>  -- a free GUI SNMP manager
>  -- doing japanese text

>  The rest were mostly network related, I think.

oh.  so when you cannot install the program, it's the program's fault.

(good luck)

-- 
Thomas E. Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using VMWARE with preinstalled Windows
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:38:49 GMT

I'm having mixed success with the raw partitions. I have been able to
access them from a virtual disk install of NT (ie Virtual is C:, Real
NT C: is D:) but I can't get it to successfully boot from the raw
partition.

This install is on a Toshiba Sattelite Pro 490. I've created a separate
hdwe profile and turned off everything I can think of. The system boots
up off the partition, I see lilo, then the NT boot menus, etc.. but
when I hit the blue boot screen (not a BSOD) it hangs after it displays
nt, sp5 info. It never shows any of the dots associated with the boot.

I can't figure out how to make NT tell me where it is choking. I've
added the /SOS parameter to boot.ini.

Any ideas would greatly appreciated.

John Harlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes.  There are instructions on using "raw devices" on the vmware web
> site.
> 1.  Make SURE you have backups.  And current recovery disks.
> 2.  If you have questions, email me at home
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]).  I am doing this also with an existing NT
> install.  I don't have the video working correctly yet -- only get
> 640x480x4bit color in the VM windowed or full screen -- but it does
> work.
> 3.  You will need to set all the windows partitions as read-write (I
> think) in order for them to be accessed correctly.  See #1.
>
> Good luck,
> David Graham
> --
> "R. Denoire" wrote:
> >
> > I would like to test vmware, but am unwilling to reinstall windows
as
> > a ghost operating System under linux, since it is already installed
> > and works fine.
> >
> > I wonder if one could tell vmware to use the preinstalled Windows
> > system, which includes several partitions, as a ghost system without
> > rendering it unusuable. Is there a way to keep the original Windows
> > boot partition bootable after having set it up as a ghost system in
> > vmware/Linux? I wish to be able to come back to it and boot it on
its
> > own.
> >
> > Thanks
> > ----------------
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong)
Subject: Re: Which Linux for beginner?
Date: 26 Jun 1999 20:30:35 GMT

Artur Leung ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

:      I am interested in setting up Linux besides my usual Win95/NT
: environment.  I came across the Slakware and RedHat Linux.  Which one
: should I install?  What is the major difference between these two
: products?  Any info. is welcome.

        OpenLinux 2.2, the installation is *completely* graphical.  If 
you get the commericial version ($38 US) than it comes with a customized 
version of Partition Magic in order for you to make/resize your 
partitions in order to make room for Linux on your machine.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To:  
comp.unix.questions,comp.os.linux.networking,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Subject: Re: HowTo Monitor Internet Acvities While At Work?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:43:44 GMT

On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:20:16 -0700, Jimmy Navarro wrote:

>Hi, Mr. Ron DuFresne with dodo brain, fyi I was just posting the question
>was asked me by a MCSE NT System Administrator who doesn't work around Unix
>is there's something he could do and this issue is not even my concern.

HAH! Some MCSE! Man, he really earned THAT CrackerJack box diploma!

He's so good at what he does - he doesn't waste his time on such minor tasks?
{snerk}

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stewart Honsberger)
Crossposted-To:  linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: New FAQ needed for SB-AWE
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 20:53:42 GMT

On Fri, 25 Jun 1999 15:48:48 -0400, Rick Nelson wrote:

>I have problems installing my soundblaster, as do a lot of other people.
>Lord knows Creative isn't helping us out, and the FAQ/How-to is outdated
>for the kernel.  I'm not demanding or anything, but I think a new FAQ is
>needed because there's a lot problems.
>
>My speakers 'click' in Netscape, but I can't hear anything else.

The /usr/src/linux/Documentation/sound/AWE32 how-to helped me immensely.
I followed it to the letter, and lo-and-behold - I have sound! (BTW; I run
a Creative AWE64 PnPray).

>And sndconfig mysteriously disappeared from my computer even though I've
>had Linux for only 24 hours.

I did it the old-fashioned way. Perchance this is your problem? Putting
too much stock in automated utilities?

It all boils down to RTFM.

-- 
Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jenni G)
Subject: ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:03:59 GMT

I would like to make my server as robust as possible - anyone know if
ECC on the SDRAMs will be beneficial in Linux environment?

Thanks!

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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Mounting Troubles
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:11:51 -0700

"Jaysus!" wrote:
> 
> Eh? I don't even have /dev/fd0u1440. Are you sure you didn't mean fd0h1440?

Positive.

Ill-Logic:~$ ls -l /dev/fd0u*
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  84 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1040
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  88 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1120
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  28 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1440
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2, 124 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1600
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  44 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1680
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  60 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1722
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  76 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1743
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  96 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1760
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2, 116 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1840
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2, 100 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u1920
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  32 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u2880
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2, 104 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u3200
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2, 108 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u3520
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  12 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u360
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2, 112 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u3840
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  16 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u720
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2, 120 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u800
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  52 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u820
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  68 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0u830
Ill-Logic:~$ ls -l /dev/fd0h*
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,   8 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h1200
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  40 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h1440
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  56 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h1476
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  72 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h1494
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  92 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h1600
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  20 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h360
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  48 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h410
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  64 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h420
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  24 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h720
brw-rw----   1 root     floppy     2,  80 May 14  1996 /dev/fd0h880
Ill-Logic:~$

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From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: problems installing gtk+ 1.2.3 from tarball...
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:16:15 -0800

Hi

I just downloaded gtk+ 1.2.3 and I'm trying to install it
from the tarball. I changed to the directory I untarred it
to, but when I run the configure command, I get some error
messages. It tells me that I am using an older version of
gtk and that I need to remove it before I can install the
new version.

When I try to use glint to remove the old version (the old
version is the rpm that was installed with redhat 5.2) I get
a message saying that there are failed dependencies.

so, I'm kinda stuck. I would appreciate any help I can get.
the error message mentions something about my
LD_LIBRARY_path, but I don't know what that means. It says I
might be able to modify it to get the installation to work

thanks,
eric



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Subject: Re: removing corrupt files
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:26:36 GMT

In article <01bebfd3$c20eb120$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ted George wrote:
>hello,
>
>i have a few odd looking entries in an ext2 filesystem as follows:
>
>d--Srwxr-- 21588 19796    18464    168640076 Dec 18  2001 ebaypix.jpg
>br-s--xr-x 21573 29283    19772     97, 108 Jan 15  1977 ebaypix1.jpg
>?--x--S--x 23328 21071    12334    1329799202 Aug 21  2027 ebaypix2.jpg
>
>these are kernel log messages that i believe are related while processing
>these files:
>
>Jun 24 23:45:55 xxx kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
>Jun 24 23:45:55 xxx kernel: 08:12: rw=0, want=1953391989, limit=3935925
>
>when i try and remove these files i get an "Operation not permitted" error.
> i have tried
>umounting the filesystem and running fsck, but it says there is nothing
>wrong.
>does anyone know how to force fsck to do a low level check, or how to
>modify
>these files into a form that will allow access to remove them.  thanks in
>advance.

Use debugfs.

Ta',
Juergen

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From: Andrey Zmievski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD player - no sound
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:22:20 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Dennis Barbier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What distribution?

Redhat 6.0.

> IS your CD Drive properly mounted?

Yes. The CD player detects the number of tracks on the disc and all.

-Andrey


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 22:28:05 GMT

"John Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>There is a cost basis on this summary which is based on Mindcraft AND PC
>weeks/magazines independant benchmark.
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/exec/compares/ntlinux.asp
>
>This shows NT to be far cheaper based on price/performance.

Would you really expect micros~1 so say anything else?

Norman

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From: Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problems installing gtk+ 1.2.3 from tarball...
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 13:20:14 -0800

my bad,  It is complaining about glib.

it says that glib-configure returns 1.2.3 (which is the
version I just installed) but that it detects another older
version of glib installed also (it is, I don't know how to
get rid of it).

the rest of my original message should be right.



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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Helge Oldach)
Subject: Re: Linux balkanization a potential blessing
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 21:45:57 GMT

In <rQ6d3.3411$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach) writes:
| The only one I use is a wrapper script called 'vman'.  It's roughly equivalent
| to
|       nroff -man foo | col -b > /tmp/t
|       view /tmp/t
|       rm /tmp/t
| and it's a *LOT* more convenient than the "regular" browser.

What's wrong with feeding man(1) with the appropriate PAGER environment
variable? E.g. PAGER=less?

| But yes, "search easily" is a feature for me, and I like vi's search
| capabilities a little better.

less(1) definitely is your friend.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft 
Retest News
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 15:11:20 -0700

On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 18:15:46 GMT, Anthony Ord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:56:07 +0100, Robin Becker
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>In article <7l280k$1d9i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Hughes
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>>How about these? Did MS cheat also? ;)
>>>
>>>http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/stories/reviews/0,6755,2256617,00.html
>>>
>>>http://www.zdnet.com/pcweek/stories/jumps/0,4270,401961,00.html
>>>
>>>
>>...
>>a bit off topic, but an article in my paper, the Independent, states
>>that M$'s encarta has different versions for different countries. If M$
>>can claim in the US that Edison (October 1879) invented the electric
>>light bulb before Swan (February 1879) then a few adjustments to
>>benchmark results seem minor. Apparently the M$ mouthpiece says these
>>sort of 'facts' aren't always black and white etc etc. 
>
>It's just to appease the American public. Just like the
>Second World War went from 1941 (when the Americans joined)
>to 1945. What was it before that? A bun fight?

        Does Encarta say that? American public school textbooks
        certainly don't. Ours even covered the concentration camps.

[deletia]
-- 

It helps the car, in terms of end user complexity and engineering,         
that a car is not expected to suddenly become wood chipper at some    |||
arbitrary point as it's rolling down the road.                       / | \
                                                                       
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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Commercially speaking....?
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:23:22 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Anthony Ord <nws@rolling
thunder.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Yeah, I'm into Pick - a really clever O/S with its own database - minimal
>>hardware with lots of users.
>
>I have a vague recollection of LIST <dbname> WITH x = "y"
>AND y = "z" <fieldnames>
>
>Is that it?
>
>>And now - you should see it zip running on Linux !
>
>It runs on Linux?
>
Pick, as supplied by Pick Systems, has been running on linux for the
past 5 years or so. In fact, it's no longer available as a genuine OS in
its own right - if you want that version, it looks like it owns the
machine but actually runs on top of a linux kernel.

You can also get it as a "run on something else" program.
-- 
Anthony W. Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
'Yings, yow graley yin! Suz ae rikt dheu,' said the blue man, taking the 
thimble. 'What *is* he?' said Magrat. 'They're gnomes,' said Nanny. The man 
lowered the thimble. 'Pictsies!' Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett 1998
Visit the MaVerick web-site - <http://www.maverick-dbms.org> Open Source Pick

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From: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Shared libs: DLL hell for Linux
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 08:47:30 +0100
Reply-To: "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christopher Wong
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Perhaps my main concern is in commercial applications: imagine a vendor
>sending binary distributions to customers. A vendor may not be able to
>ask customers to all upgrade their Linux distributions in lockstep. Yet,
>that vendor may be developing on a relatively up-to-date set of
>libraries. Does the only viable solution consist of shipping statically
>linked executables?
>
AIUI, the standard says that newer libraries MUST be compatible with
older ones. So there's no problem if your libraries are newer than the
ones expected by the commercial program.

And I can't see an app developer being anywhere near the leading edge in
libraries. If it takes RedHat several months to release a stable
2.2-based kernel after 2.2 itself was released, then I expect any
commercial app will be about a year behind. For example, WordPerfect 8
is still libc5 based. And StarOffice came with the libraries required
(and instructions) to install it on a libc5 system, as it used glibc2.
-- 
Anthony W. Youngman - wol at thewolery dot demon dot co dot uk
Trousers with a single hole in their waistband are topologically equivalent
to a doughnut. These sugarcoated trousers have yet to catch on at fast-food
outlets! (SuperStrings by F. David Peat)

If replying by e-mail please mail wol. Anything else may get missed amongst
the spam.


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