Linux-Misc Digest #800, Volume #27 Mon, 7 May 01 04:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: keymap problem (Stephen Hui)
Re: not enough RAM during RH 7.1 install (Grant Edwards)
Re: not enough RAM during RH 7.1 install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Test don't reply ("Paul")
Re: non-color xterm (Jimbob)
Re: non-color xterm (Floyd Davidson)
Re: Quick question: how to copy files *and* directories? (Floyd Davidson)
Re: not enough RAM during RH 7.1 install (Floyd Davidson)
Any way to do true seek in dd? (was Re: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda) (Lucius
Chiaraviglio)
Re: news/mail clients (steve)
proftpd with mysql ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
Re: Run SCO apps on Linux (steve)
Re: serial port init(simple) ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Any way to do true seek in dd? (was Re: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda) (Vilmos
Soti)
Re: Problem with Redhat 7.1: Constant Disk Access (Mark Meytin)
apt-get on Redhat (wroot)
WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1 ("ThanhVu Nguyen")
Re: apt-get on Redhat (Rob Hazlewood)
pasting with the keyboard (Chris Cera)
kernel capabilities (Tobias Frischknecht)
ftp login delay from proxy ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: pasting with the keyboard ("Kilian A. Foth")
Re: WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1 ("Wayne Osborn")
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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: keymap problem
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 03:56:30 GMT
Sorry, I forgot to mention that I'm running RedHat 6.2, bash 2.05 and
XFree 4.0.2.
Stephen Hui wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm searching the c.o.l.m. archives, but haven't found anything yet...
>
> Anyway, none of the control-key sequences (Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X, etc.) are
> working in either bash (version 2.05) or in X. The Ctrl key does
> absolutely nothing; if I hit Ctrl-C, it types 'c'. I was wondering if
> anyone knows how to fix this.
>
> Thanks,
> Stephen.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: not enough RAM during RH 7.1 install
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 04:41:07 GMT
On Mon, 07 May 2001 01:48:13 GMT, Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Ten years ago running X in 16Mb was _painful_. 20Mb or better
>> yet 32Mb made it reasonable (or, what was reasonable when a
>> 486DX66 was about as good as it got without a second mortgage to
>> do better). I doubt in the years since that X or anything else
>> has gotten smaller.
>
>i remember running X on sparcstation2 with 8MB of RAM. that sucked.
>X took all 8MB and left no room for any application.
I ran X in 4MB on Sun 4/60 with a 20Mhz (or was it 25?) 68020,
and I was pretty happy with the performance. [Back then SunOS
didn't ship with X -- you built it yourself from sources.
--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! Where's th' DAFFY
at DUCK EXHIBIT??
visi.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: not enough RAM during RH 7.1 install
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:09:10 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) writes:
> On Mon, 07 May 2001 01:48:13 GMT, Johan Kullstam
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Ten years ago running X in 16Mb was _painful_. 20Mb or better yet
>>> 32Mb made it reasonable (or, what was reasonable when a 486DX66
>>> was about as good as it got without a second mortgage to do
>>> better). I doubt in the years since that X or anything else has
>>> gotten smaller.
>>i remember running X on sparcstation2 with 8MB of RAM. that sucked.
>>X took all 8MB and left no room for any application.
> I ran X in 4MB on Sun 4/60 with a 20Mhz (or was it 25?) 68020, and I
> was pretty happy with the performance. [Back then SunOS didn't ship
> with X -- you built it yourself from sources.
Every time a new class of graphics hardware comes out, RAM
requirements seem to increase geometrically.
There's a significant dilemma: the old 256K "Trident" cards and the
like didn't cause the X server to chew up much RAM, but a modern
Matrox Millennium, requiring a whopping lot more RAM, is a whopping
lot more powerful.
Note that Jim Gettys has put together a "Tiny X" distribution what has
a minimal set of fonts, libraries, and other components, stripped down
particularly for use with tiny hardware like the iPAQ handheld.
--
(reverse (concatenate 'string "gro.mca@" "enworbbc"))
http://vip.hex.net/~cbbrowne/resume.html
"On the other hand, O'Reilly's book about running W95 has a toad as
the cover animal. Makes sense; both have lots of warts and croak all
the time." --- Michael Kagalenko,
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From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Test don't reply
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:18:06 GMT
Test don't reply
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From: Jimbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: non-color xterm
Date: 7 May 2001 15:18:04 +1100
Charles Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every xterm I open (wherther regular xterm, gnome terminal, color xterm)
> in RH 7.0 KDE, displays different colors for different types of files.
> How can I disable this feature, ie, I want only one color for all files.
> -charles
Under bash you will need to edit the .bashrc file where you will have aliases
nominated. You
should have one that has something like....
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
you could comment out this line or delete it all together and there wont be any
more different colours.
Jim
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: non-color xterm
Date: 06 May 2001 20:19:59 -0800
Charles Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Every xterm I open (wherther regular xterm, gnome terminal, color xterm)
>in RH 7.0 KDE, displays different colors for different types of files.
>How can I disable this feature, ie, I want only one color for all files.
>
>-charles
Xterm doesn't display files. It is a "terminal emulator" in
which you can run a shell and or other programs.
You might try reading the man page for whatever program it is
that you are using to cause files to be displayed.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Quick question: how to copy files *and* directories?
Date: 06 May 2001 20:24:48 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE) wrote:
>On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:19:52 +0200, Erik Veenstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> insisted:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> > I apologize for not having the time to search more myself for an
>> > answer to this basic question...
>> >
>> > I want--in a single command--to copy a directory ***and all files and
>> > subdirectories within that directory*** to another location.
>> >
>> > I know how to copy single or multiple files using cp, but can't seem
>> > to find any info online about how to copy all files *and*
>> > subdirectories at once.
>>
>> cp -a
>
>cp -R
That will not likely accomplish what the OP appears to desire. The
-R option is implicit in the -a option, but the -R option does not
include the -p or -d options that are also implicit with -a.
The upshot of using "cp -R" as opposed to "cp -a" is that
neither hard links nor symbolic links will be correctly copied,
nor will the original permissions, ownership, or timestamps of
files be preserved.
Read the man page for cp...
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: not enough RAM during RH 7.1 install
Date: 06 May 2001 20:36:53 -0800
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "Waldermar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Hi,
>> >
>> >I'm trying to set up RedHat 7.1 on a 486x16M machine.
>> >Guess what - 7.1 wants more RAM (32???) and fails to install.
>> >I know, memory is cheap, etc., but the question is can I make
>> >it work with 16? Anyone bypassed it somehow?
>> >
>> >Thanks for any info,
>>
>> Ten years ago running X in 16Mb was _painful_. 20Mb or better
>> yet 32Mb made it reasonable (or, what was reasonable when a
>> 486DX66 was about as good as it got without a second mortgage to
>> do better). I doubt in the years since that X or anything else
>> has gotten smaller.
>
>i remember running X on sparcstation2 with 8MB of RAM. that sucked.
>X took all 8MB and left no room for any application.
Heh, my first Linux box had 8 Mb of RAM... and yes that is
exactly what X took to run. *Anything* caused swapping! I took
out 4 each 1Mb chips and put $450 worth of 4Mb chips in to have
20 Mb, and all was OK... except XEmacs... so I eventually took
out those last 4 1Mb chips and put in another 16Mb. (When the
price was lower.) That box eventually died with 32 Mb of RAM in
it... :-)
>> Personally though, I would NOT buy more memory for a 486Mb, but
>> instead would go look for a pentium motherboard. Pentium boards
>> that are several times faster than a 486 cost peanuts...
>
>yes, but pentium boards are probably needing EDO RAM. that's not as
>cheap or available anymore. so it's hopping from one obsolete system
>to one only slightly less obsolete.
>
>either stick with what you have or go buy something reasonably new.
I donno... A couple years ago I spent $30 each on a couple of
pentium boards, and used all of the various RAM chips that I had
laying around. So I can't say that buying something reasonably
new is not clearly a better idea! It probably is.
What I'm positive about is that trying to boot up a 486 was so
slow that I very quickly decided whatever the cost of a faster
motherboard was, it was worth it.
--
Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lucius Chiaraviglio)
Subject: Any way to do true seek in dd? (was Re: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:37:49 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Nichols) wrote:
>You'll find that the time for each seek gets progressively longer as you
>advance through the disk. That's because 'dd' doesn't actually do
>seeks, it reads through the data it is skipping over. That's an ancient
>hack to cope with legacy devices that claim success when asked to seek,
>but don't actually do it.
This sounds rather inconvenient for people not burdened with such
brain-damaged devices. Does some command similar to "dd" or some option
to "dd" let you do a true seek on devices that truly support this?
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve)
Subject: Re: news/mail clients
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:53:26 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ivorybones):
>| Take a look at Pan as a newsreader.
>|
>| Find it at http://pan.rebelbase.com.
>|
>| As for a mail clint, let me know when
>| you find a good one. I am using Pronto, which really works quite well,
>| but does not have much support for html mail.
Slypheed seems to get rave reviews from those that like gui e-mail
clients.
I agree with Pan as a good gui newsreader. Played a bit with it myself
b4 I went back to my favourite console reader. <g>
--
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by GNU/Linux
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: proftpd with mysql
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:45:43 +0800
i have these setting in proftpd.conf. however, seems it do not use mysql for
authentication, but use pam instead. of coz, i have compile proftpd 1.2.2rc2
with mysql support. can anyone show me how to solve this? thanks.
SQLDoAuth on
SQLAuthoritative on
SQLConnectInfo xxx@localhost yyy zzz
SQLAuthTypes Backend
SQLUserTable proftpd_user
SQLGroupTable proftpd_group
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve)
Subject: Re: Run SCO apps on Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 05:59:02 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paolo):
>| Hi.
>|
>| Forgive a newbie question.
>|
>| Is it possible to execute SCO binary applications on Linux systems ?
>| Can anyone give me some pointer to related information ?
Calderasytems.com they are finalizing their purchase of SCO, with the
intention of having Linux run SCO apps.
--
Steve - Toronto ICQ 35454764
Powered by GNU/Linux
1:55am up 1 day, 3:04, 10 users, load average: 0.15, 0.16, 0.25
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: serial port init(simple)
Date: 7 May 2001 05:59:02 GMT
zaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> detected in irq 3 by default. So each time i reboot i have to use
> 'setserial /dev/ttyS3 irq 4' before i can use my modem. How can i make
> this change permanent so i dont have to re-type it after i reboot?
Well, I'd change the IRQ of the modem, but you can also add the setserial
command to /etc/rc.d/rc.local
Davide
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Subject: Re: Any way to do true seek in dd? (was Re: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda)
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 06:06:08 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lucius Chiaraviglio) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Nichols) wrote:
>> You'll find that the time for each seek gets progressively longer as you
>> advance through the disk. That's because 'dd' doesn't actually do
>> seeks, it reads through the data it is skipping over. That's an ancient
>> hack to cope with legacy devices that claim success when asked to seek,
>> but don't actually do it.
>
> This sounds rather inconvenient for people not burdened with such
> brain-damaged devices. Does some command similar to "dd" or some option
> to "dd" let you do a true seek on devices that truly support this?
According to my own experience, it is not true anymore. I heard this
before, but according to my experience it is not the case anymore.
You might have to test either seek or skip. I don't remember which
one I used.
I had some magneto optical disks which had bad sectors at the beginning,
and I could read the rest with dd without stopping at the bad space.
Vilmos
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From: Mark Meytin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with Redhat 7.1: Constant Disk Access
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 02:37:49 -0400
I'm having exact same problem on pretty much the same hardware
(Symbios Logic SC53C875J-based controller, SCSI HD, SCSI CD-ROM).
Constant noise of disk access after login, both SCSI bus and CD-ROM
lights are flashing. To fix it I had to disable Autorun, which
was started in KDE's Autostart folder. In addition to that, I have
a strange "/bin/cat" process which is started in a separate shell
(though not visible) when I log into KDE. Does anyone know what
this is? Plus I have about 12 kdeinit processes - are all of them
needed? TIA for any info on a subject.
Regards,
-M-
RS wrote:
>
> I found out what happened! It was the 'automount' of CD that caused
> the problem. The strange thing is that the LEDs of the CD=ROms didn't
> flash. The SCSI bus activity LED was flashing and I heard the HD making
> noise....
> Anyway, this automount task actually make the system slower, not to
> mention the HD noise. I got one CD-ROM and one burner that may
> need more resource for automount.
> It is fine now after I disable the automount.
>
> Roger
>
> In article <nh4I6.2095$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "RS"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi, there,
> >
> > I jsut did a fresh install of Redhat 7.1 on my new harddrive. The
> > installation went fine without any problem.
> >
> > The problem started after I started to run Gnome. I found that there
> > were constant disk access. The HD activity LED kept flashing even though
> > I didn't do anything.
> > When I ran xosview, it reported that 'PROC/LOAD' was always > 1. I
> > switched to KDE. Same thing!
> >
> > With Redhat 6.2, it never happened. The load in xosview can drop to 0.
> >
> > Do anyone know what the problem is?
> >
> > I got a SCSI HD with an Asus SC875 SCSI card. RH7.1 correctly
> > identified it as SYM 875 and use the SYM8xx driver.
> >
> > Thanks for any help!
> > Roger
> >
> > reply by email @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.debian.user,linux.redhat
Subject: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 02:32:45 -0400
Hi,
Is it possible to use apt-get on Redhat?
There's a certain ftp site that I check regularly for updates for my RH6.2.
When something new shows up, I install it with
rpm -Fvh *.i386.rpm
I'm wondering if there's an automated way of doing this (without being a
subscribed and paying RH network customer of course). I've heard somewhere
that one can use apt-get with RPMs or Redhat. It is true?
Thanks
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From: "ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 02:58:46 -0400
Anyon experiences the same and know how to fix it ? I installed WP 8.0
before on other distribution and it works, but I just can't install it on
RH 7.1 It doesn't start the graphical installation and it creates a
bunch of empty wp* dir .... Is there some imcompatibilities btw the two ?
Thanks
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From: Rob Hazlewood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: apt-get on Redhat
Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:22:44 +1000
Aren't you better off just using debian?
I have very bad experienced with redhat..
Rob
wroot wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to use apt-get on Redhat?
> There's a certain ftp site that I check regularly for updates for my
> RH6.2. When something new shows up, I install it with
> rpm -Fvh *.i386.rpm
>
> I'm wondering if there's an automated way of doing this (without being a
> subscribed and paying RH network customer of course). I've heard somewhere
> that one can use apt-get with RPMs or Redhat. It is true?
>
> Thanks
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Cera)
Subject: pasting with the keyboard
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 07:21:05 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I know I can't be the first person to want to know how to do this.
How can I remap the middle-mouse button to some keyboard sequence.
Would this be done in ~/.Xdefaults or similiar? Or if there are
any gnome hacks this would suffice. Thank you for your time.
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From: Tobias Frischknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kernel capabilities
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,comp.os.linux.security
Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:43:23 +0200
Hello,
can anyone tell me how to use the kernel capabilities in the standard
kernel? For example I want to make my wu.ftpd able to open ports below 1024
without root privilegs (CAP_NET_BIND_SERVICE).
Which tool can I use to do it?
Thanks
Tobi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: ftp login delay from proxy
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 07:45:53 GMT
A small number of my [human] clients, including myself, are experiencing
login delays of nearly 30 seconds when attempting to login to wu-ftpd.
The [ftp] clients vary from Unix to Windoze ftp client applications.
The delay occurs between the connect and the initial 220 message (after
which the ftp client typically displays the login prompt) If telnet is
used to telnet into the same server, no delay is seen. Nor, was one
seen with the stock ftpd that came with the RedHat 7,0 installation. If
one (experiencing this problem) uses telnet to connect with the ftp port
(21) 30 seconds elapses before the 220 ftp server message is returned.
It turns out that each of the [human] clients was connecting to the RH
server from their own proxy servers. While each of these [human]
clients were sharing their ADSL lines with one or more machines at their
respective locations, not every [human] client with this configuration
is experiencing the problem. When I determined that one other [human]
client used the same proxy server I was using (Linksys), I took a closer
look at the proxy configuration. It turns out the when "Block WAN
requests" is enabled, the ftp login delay occurs. When "Block WAN
requests" is enabled, one cannot even ping the IP address on which the
router sits. Disable this function, and it responds to ping.
I've read other newsgroup posts that suggest wu-ftpd differs from the
stock RH ftpd by performing an ident lookup on the incoming IP address.
I've also read posts that suggest adding the -I server parameter to the
/etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd script disables the ident lookups on login.
However, my own testing suggests that the delay still occurs, under the
above-mentioned scenario, even when the -I parameter is specified.
wu-ftpd logs login attempts to syslog. It does not, however, log
connects. I cannot determine from the logs what is going on during the
30-second interval. Does anyone know a means by increasing the log
output of wu-ftpd, so I can determine what is going on? Or perhaps,
someone already understands why this delay is incurred, and what I might
do to correct this at the server end.
I really dislike having to ask my clients to change something in their
proxy configuration, just to correct this delay, when they don't report
seeing it from other sites or servers.
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From: "Kilian A. Foth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pasting with the keyboard
Date: 7 May 2001 07:51:34 GMT
Chris Cera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know I can't be the first person to want to know how to do this.
> How can I remap the middle-mouse button to some keyboard sequence.
> Would this be done in ~/.Xdefaults or similiar? Or if there are
> any gnome hacks this would suffice. Thank you for your time.
With an xterm I use this
xterm*VT100.Translations: #override \
<KeyPress> Insert:insert-selection(PRIMARY)
in my ~/.Xdefaults. Don't know whether a gnome terminal can do this.
--
Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.
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From: "Wayne Osborn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WordPerfect wouldn't start the graphical installation on RH 7.1
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:05:50 +0800
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"ThanhVu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Anyon experiences the same and know how to fix it ? I installed WP 8.0
> before on other distribution and it works, but I just can't install it
> on RH 7.1 It doesn't start the graphical installation and it creates a
> bunch of empty wp* dir .... Is there some imcompatibilities btw the two
> ?
>
>
> Thanks
I went through the same thing with RH7.0.
Two problems: 1. The install script insists on kernel 2.0 or earlier. 2.
You need the following libraries:
ld.so-1.9.5-13.i386.rpm
libc-5.3.12-31.i386.rpm
Find these at www.rpmfind.com
I bashed the install script to accept my 2.2.16 kernel.
If you are not able to modify the install script, drop me a line and I
will send you a copy. Note, my Email address is spelt out below.
--
Wayne A. Osborn, SCADA Engineer.[dnar AT iinet DOT net DOT au]
Registered Linux User #212818. [2.2.16-22-Win4Lin-686] [i686]
3:50pm up 17:41, 1 user, load average: 1.37, 1.56, 2.02
...This login session: $13.76, but for you $11.88.
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