Linux-Misc Digest #800, Volume #25 Mon, 18 Sep 00 16:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Permission Woes - can't add write permission (Duncan Cameron)
Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss (Alisdair McDiarmid)
Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1 (Harshal)
Re: Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work... (Dances With Crows)
Re: AOL client for linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Permission Woes - can't add write permission (Dances With Crows)
Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss (John Winters)
Re: Error with man command... (Vinny LaPietra)
Re: can't connect to napster (The Darkener)
Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1 (-ljl-)
@@@ El BUS-X, Sexo en Directo GRATIS @@@ ("Info")
Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss (James Campbell Andrew)
Re: unresolved references in modules (-ljl-)
Re: Cobalt RaQ3/RedHat (Bill Hudson)
Re: xfree 4.0.1 (Hammer)
Re: Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work... (Grant Edwards)
Re: "Installing SUSE 6.4 on SCSI hard drives from SCSI CD" (Dirk Schenkewitz)
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From: Duncan Cameron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Permission Woes - can't add write permission
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:11:18 GMT
I am trying to have Netscape use the Mail folder on one of my DOS
partitions, so as to keep all the mail in one place. This works fine for
root, but as a user Netscape can't do this because the user lacks write
permission for the file. Not surprising so far, but no matter what I
try, I can't add write permission for this set of files for "anyone" but
the owner, root. I have fooled around with groups and alternate users,
tried the graphical permission, console 'chmod', but nothing ever
changes. I never get any errors, just no result. I found a place to
change root's ability to make changes from 700 and put 777 just to see,
but even then, nothing. How can it be that root can write to these
files, but cannot bestow permission on "anyone" else?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alisdair McDiarmid)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:25:46 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James Campbell
Andrew wrote:
> Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yes, you can do it. I do one a week on my local net.
> >
> > Burning a CD is just the same as for an ISO, but you should note that
> > to mount a Mac native CD you will need to use the `hfs' type (and
> > therefore have support for it in your kernel). The mkhybrid utility
> > is useful for creating HFS/ISO hybrid CDs too.
>
> Cool - but how would I get the data off the Mac?
Netatalk?
> Sorry if this is a naive question but I'm just trying to understand
> the logistics of it all. The machines are networked and Netatalked.
> Could you give me a quick example of creating a CD that contains,
> say, my current System Folder + my current Jim folder?
Um, no, I'm afraid. The MacOS user on the LAN uses Adaptec's Toast
software to create the CD image, then copies it across here for
burning.
I can only suggest you either get a copy of Toast, or read man
mkhybrid.
Sorry to be of little help,
--
Alisdair McDiarmid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[http://wasters.org/pubkey.asc perl -i.mac -p -e 's/\r/\n/smg;']
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From: Harshal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:21:53 GMT
Thanks for all your suggestions. I have not modified the kernel. It is a
standard Red Hat 6.1 install.
I added the 'alias scsi_hostadapter aic7xxx' to /etc/conf.modules
and re-booted but the system still can't see the SCSI tape drive.
/sbin/lsmod does not show either st.o or aic7xxx.o.
# /sbin/lsmod
Module Size Used by
3c59x 19112 1 (autoclean)
#
aic7xxx.o and st.o are present at /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/scsi/aic7xxx.o
and /lib/modules/2.2.12-20/scsi/st.o
Can't figure out why they are not being loaded.
Any additional info will be very helpful.
Thanks.
Harshal
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work...
Date: 18 Sep 2000 18:41:28 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:54:47 -0700, MH wrote:
>Dances With Crows wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 03:05:18 GMT, Grant Edwards wrote:
>> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
>> >>Dances With Crows wrote:
>> >
>> >>Cdrecord 1.8 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
>> >>cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open SCSI driver.
>> >>cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you
>> >>are root.
>> >>
>> >>Note THAT I AM logged on as root.
>> >
>> >Are you sure you've got a SCSI driver runing? Can you mount a CD in the
>> >SCSI drive? If that works, make sure you've got the SCSI-generic module
>> >installed -- I think it's called "sg".
>>
>> What he said.
>>
>> modprobe scsi_mod (may be unneccessary if SCSI support is built in)
>> modprobe sg
>>
>> *THAT* information you posted above is the reason I made about 4
>> references to "cdrecord -scanbus" in my original post. The info that
>> command gives is almost always essential to get cdrecord working right.
>>
>What information? That it couldn't find a SCSI driver? My system boots
>from SCSI!!! It will boot from the CD-ROM!!!
>So to get cdrecord to work, I need to load yet another SCSI module, even
>though SCSI is built into the kernel!?! What's up with that? Where do
>I obtain this module?
The Linux SCSI subsystem is split up into several parts: lowlevel
drivers for each SCSI card (Adaptec 1542, Symbios 53c8xx, IDE-SCSI
emulation), basic SCSI support (scsi_mod), support for SCSI disks
(sd_mod), support for SCSI CD-ROMs (sr_mod), support for SCSI tapes
(st_mod) , and support for SCSI generic devices like CD-RWs and scanners
(sg). A SCSI CD-ROM is treated as a block device, while a SCSI generic
device is treated as a character device. Reading a CD-ROM goes through
the block device, while writing to a CD-R(W) goes through the character
device, because the timing problems that can occur with a block buffer
cache make it much more difficult to burn a good CD. That requires the
sg module to load.
Also, just because it boots from a SCSI device doesn't mean that the
appropriate SCSI modules are even available. Booting always uses the
SCSI card or the machine's BIOS, and RedHat by default puts all the SCSI
stuff into an initial RAMdisk. The BIOS loads the kernel image and the
RAMdisk, then passes control to the kernel. If the SCSI modules aren't
there, you'll get a kernel panic, but that's obviously not happening.
The sg module should be under /lib/modules/$VERSION/scsi/sg.o
>Better yet, is there another CD burning application out there that's
>less flaky than this one?
There's cdrdao, but it's really only for burning audio CDs. cdrecord is
*NOT* flaky; you just have things set up incorrectly. I suggest you go
read the CD-Writing-HOWTO, follow its directions exactly, and report
back if you have trouble.
http://linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html
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Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: AOL client for linux
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:45:23 GMT
D'Arque Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: but that it's absolutely useless for my needs.
You just described all of AOL perfectly, right in that one statement.
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"Here's a nickel kid ... get yourself a real computer."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Permission Woes - can't add write permission
Date: 18 Sep 2000 18:46:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:11:18 GMT, Duncan Cameron wrote:
>I am trying to have Netscape use the Mail folder on one of my DOS
>partitions, so as to keep all the mail in one place. This works fine for
>root, but as a user Netscape can't do this because the user lacks write
>permission for the file. Not surprising so far, but no matter what I
>try, I can't add write permission for this set of files for "anyone" but
>the owner, root. I have fooled around with groups and alternate users,
>tried the graphical permission, console 'chmod', but nothing ever
>changes. I never get any errors, just no result. I found a place to
>change root's ability to make changes from 700 and put 777 just to see,
>but even then, nothing. How can it be that root can write to these
>files, but cannot bestow permission on "anyone" else?
Because the DOS FAT filesystem lacks the concept of permissions.
Therefore, all files on a DOS partition will be owned by the same user
and have the same permissions, these attributes are set at mount time,
and there's no way to change them with chmod/chown/chattr.
This is almost a FAQ; there are many many posts dealing with this. One
solution is to mount the DOS partition with "umask=000", this will leave
all files on the DOS partition wide-open for anyone to read/write.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Winters)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss
Date: 18 Sep 2000 19:39:53 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James
> Campbell Andrew wrote:
>> The question is, can I burn Macintosh native CD's (ie bootable
>> System disks) or is this not possible at the moment?
>
>Yes, you can do it. I do one a week on my local net.
>
>Burning a CD is just the same as for an ISO, but you should note that
>to mount a Mac native CD you will need to use the `hfs' type (and
>therefore have support for it in your kernel). The mkhybrid utility
>is useful for creating HFS/ISO hybrid CDs too.
How do you burn an HFS CD? I've tried to burn MkLinux to CD with cdrecord
but apparently it loses some of the critical HFS information.
John
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The Linux Emporium - the source for Linux CDs in the UK
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From: Vinny LaPietra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Error with man command...
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:40:30 GMT
I had this same annoying problem. Update the initscripts package.
I installed initscripts-4.97-35mdk.i586.rpm using MandrakeUpdate and it
fixed the problem.
Vinny
Dextrose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Man works fine when I'm logged on as root. But, if I try to log on as
a
> user other than root and use man...I get the following error message:
>
> Formatting page, please wait...
> There is no -= option ("less --help" for help)
> Error executing formatting or display command.
> System command /usr/bin/bzip2 -c -d /var/catman/cat1/find.1.bz2 |
> /usr/bin/less -is exited with status 1.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions as to how I might fix this? Or why it's
> even happening to begin with? I'm rather new...so, I'm lost. Thanks
in
> advance for any help.
>
> -= Dextrose =-
>
> P.S. It's Mandrake 7.1
>
>
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From: The Darkener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: can't connect to napster
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:03:33 GMT
I'm having the exact same problem with GTK-Napster, it doesn't connect to any server at
all, and when I try to "Choose own server" instead of Autoget best server, I still
can't put in my own ip address. I've tried almost everything I can think of (Hmm,
besides RTFMing! hehe) and it always returns the "Warning -- Connection refused", and
I'm actually trying to set up a new user. Very strange. I'll have to go grab the
docs.
Anyone find a solution to this?
Matt Garman wrote:
> Hello:
>
> I run IP masqerading on a Linux box to share a cable modem with my
> roommate. He's running Win98 on his computer and can use Napster without
> any problems (connects okay, downloads fine, etc).
>
> I used to use the gtk-napster client version 0.201 until it started to
> consistently time out on every connection attempt. I figured it was the
> software and upgraded to v0.301. Here I selected "autoget best server"
> from the connect screen, and it returns a "Warning -- connection refused"
> back on the terminal from which I started gtk-napster.
>
> I tried some other clients and had similar problems:
> - with TekNap I get these results:
> Attempting to get host from 12.18.122.252:8888.
> Connected. Attempting Login to 12.18.122.252:8888.
> blah!* banned: do not unban
> do_server() Connection closed from 12.18.122.252: Remote end closed
> connection
> - with nap-1.4.4 I get stuff such as this:
> Getting best host...
> Connecting...
> Error connecting socket
> Getting best host...
> Connecting...
> Error connecting socket
> - I also tried the client lopster-0.9.3, it just times out on
> connections to the "Official Server" while searching for the best
> server.
>
> For a while I thought that my IP was banned somehow---but if my roommate
> connects okay, that certainly isn't the case. Also I thought my username
> was banned, but I also tried connecting with my roommate's password, and
> that didn't work either. Also I thought my IP masquerading setup was in
> error, but again, if my roommate's works okay, shouldn't mine?
>
> Anyone have any ideas? I am just missing something obvious here?
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> --
> Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
> -- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: SCSI tape drive problem w/ RH 6.1
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:02:03 GMT
In article <8q5mf6$1fj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Harshal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for all your suggestions. I have not modified the kernel.
> It is a standard Red Hat 6.1 install.
You can try and load your adapter's module by hand using "insmod".
Keep an eye out for error messages, check "dmesg | less" too.
...
> # /sbin/lsmod
> Module Size Used by
> 3c59x 19112 1 (autoclean)
You only have one module loaded?
[root@lou2 /etc]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
3c59x 19652 1 (autoclean)
st 25452 0
nls_cp437 3908 2 (autoclean)
vfat 9596 1 (autoclean)
fat 31200 1 (autoclean) [vfat]
maestro 27240 0
soundcore 2756 2 [maestro]
advansys 82184 0
[root@lou2 /etc]#
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Campbell Andrew)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: CD Writers and Macs - discuss
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 20:26:15 +0100
Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Um, no, I'm afraid. The MacOS user on the LAN uses Adaptec's Toast
> software to create the CD image, then copies it across here for
> burning.
>
> I can only suggest you either get a copy of Toast, or read man
> mkhybrid.
>
> Sorry to be of little help,
No, actually that's exactly what I needed to know - thanks! It never
occured to me to create the image *on the Mac*, then copy it across.
You learn something new every day. Cheers.
Jim
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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unresolved references in modules
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:21:07 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Taras Ciuriak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd just upgraded a RH6.0 system to RH6.2 and recompiled the kernel
> and then the modules. Upon reboot the vast majority of the modules
> have failed to load due to unresolved references.
After building the modules did you do a "make install_modules". I'm
thinking you are trying to use old modules with the new kernel.
Modules built with the same kernel source should work with that kernel.
Of course this assumes the kernel built without errors.
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From: Bill Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cobalt RaQ3/RedHat
Date: 18 Sep 2000 19:34:50 GMT
Florian Effenberger wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I own a Cobalt RaQ3 (based on RedHat) and I receive the following
> error message:
>
> ====================
> Return-Path: <root>
> Received: (from root@localhost)
> by server1.myserver.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07970
> for root; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 04:02:01 +0200
> Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 04:02:01 +0200
> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon)
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cron <root@server1> run-parts /etc/cron.daily
> X-Cron-Env: <SHELL=/bin/bash>
> X-Cron-Env: <PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin>
> X-Cron-Env: <MAILTO=root>
> X-Cron-Env: <HOME=/>
> X-Cron-Env: <LOGNAME=root>
> X-UIDL: !FY"!^IE!!!W1"!'%)!!
>
> error: core:1 lines must begin with a keyword or a filename (possibly
> in
> double quotes)
> ====================
>
> Anybody knows what this exactly means?
>
> Thanks a lot!
look in the directory /etc/cron.daily for a file named 'core'. I think
you need to remove it.
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From: Hammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: xfree 4.0.1
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:44:05 GMT
In article <5KNw5.84933$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Norman Zhang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config"
> Parse warning on line 78 of section Keyboard in file
/etc/X11/XF86Config
> Ignoring obsolete keyword "LeftAlt".
> Parse error on line 78 of section Keyboard in file /etc/X11/XF86Config
> "Meta" is not a valid keyword in this section.
> (EE) Problem parsing the config file
> (EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile()
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found
You've got multiple, not-unexpected problems here. The format/keywords
in the config file between XFree 3.3* and XFree 4.x have changed
slightly. The info above tells you what XF86Config file is being read
(i.e., it is the one you were using with XFree 3.*). The keywords that
were fine w/that version of XFree are *not* fine with this version.
I had this problem as well, so don't feel singled out :)
Backup that file and generate a new one using XFree86 --configure (and
hope that works). If it doesn't, you're in for a bit of a ride.
It would likely also be a good idea for you to have a look at some of
the README and INSTALL files in the distribution, it will clue you in to
a few of these problems, and their recommended solution. The docs are
also at www.xfree.org, if you can't find them in your distribution.
GL.
-=hammer
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Newer versions of CDRECORD no longer work...
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:52:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
>> modprobe scsi_mod (may be unneccessary if SCSI support is built in)
>> modprobe sg
>>
>> *THAT* information you posted above is the reason I made about 4
>> references to "cdrecord -scanbus" in my original post. The info that
>> command gives is almost always essential to get cdrecord working right.
>
>What information? That it couldn't find a SCSI driver? My system boots
>from SCSI!!! It will boot from the CD-ROM!!!
For the _third_ time:
DO YOU HAVE THE "sg" MODULE LOADED?
The "sg" module is the SCSI driver that cdrecord is trying to
use. It either needs to be compiled into the kernel or loaded
with the "modprobe sg" command.
You do not need the "sg" module to mount or boot from SCSI.
You do need the "sg" module to burn a CD.
>So to get cdrecord to work, I need to load yet another SCSI
>module, even though SCSI is built into the kernel!?! What's up
>with that? Where do I obtain this module?
The "sg" module comes pre-compiled with all of the recent
RH installs I've done.
What happens when you do "modprobe sg" as root?
>Better yet, is there another CD burning application out there
>that's less flaky than this one?
They will all need the "sg" module.
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From: Dirk Schenkewitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: "Installing SUSE 6.4 on SCSI hard drives from SCSI CD"
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:23:16 +0200
Hi Tom,
Tom Millington wrote:
>
> Sorry - sent two messages and got the titles mixed up!
>
> "Tom Millington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:...
> > I am a newbie trying to put Linux on another server, namely an old
> > P133 (Altos) that has 3 x 4.5Gb SCSI hard drives and a SCSI CDROM.
> > ...
> > I have tried to use the Linux boot floppy but neither the hard drives
> > nor the CD are seen - in other words it says I have no hard drives or
> > CD player.
How far did you came with the SuSE boot disk?
In case you just did not get the right idea:
- find out what kind of SCSI controller you have, if you can.
- enter the menu "load kernel modules" --> "load scsi driver" or so.
- select the right module and watch what happens when it loads.
(if you cannot find out what scsi driver you have, try loading all
of them one by one until one of them loads successfully AND FINDS
YOUR HARDWARE ! Perhaps you need the 'modules'-floppy, too.)
If that works, go back and continue with "Installation from CD", the
system now tries to mount the CD, if that fails, well come back here :-)
> > Where do I go from here? Help! I am a newbie so simple steps please.
hope this helps
dirk
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