Linux-Misc Digest #809, Volume #20 Sun, 27 Jun 99 19:13:13 EDT
Contents:
EVENT> Linux User Group of Davis - June 28 - "Shell Programming" (William Kendrick)
Re: Xemacs on RH5.2 (Tobias Anderberg)
Re: can't run executable (Scott Lanning)
Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues. (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: internet connection with Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Where can I get free Linux CD? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Add your system to linux resource (Christian Ames)
writing a screen saver (Zdravko Balorda)
Re: writing a screen saver (jik-)
Re: can't run executable (Scott Lanning)
Netscape crashes on Java (Chuck Cusack)
Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues. (Tom Christiansen)
Inexpensive Linux Distributions ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Virtual Mac OS on Linux, HOW???? (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
Printer broken with new kernel.. (Paul Thomas)
HP870 and colors ?? (Benjamin HERZOG)
Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Kendrick)
Crossposted-To:
ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,ucd.cs.programming,ucd.cs.ugrad,ucd.cs.grad,ucd.ece.ieee,ucd.org.asme,ucd.org.swe
Subject: EVENT> Linux User Group of Davis - June 28 - "Shell Programming"
Date: 27 Jun 1999 20:35:05 GMT
WHAT:
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LUGOD: The Linux User Group of Davis
WHEN:
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Monday, June 28th, 1999
6:30pm - 9:00pm
WHERE:
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Location
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LampPost Pizza ("West Lake" shopping center, in West Davis)
1260 Lake Blvd # 113
Davis, CA 95616
1-530-758-1111
Directions
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* From downtown Davis, take Covell or Russell west (going past hwy 113).
* From hwy 113 headed north, exit at Covell or Russell and turn left.
* From hwy 113 headed south, exit at Covell or Russell and turn right.
* From Russell, turn right onto Lake. West Lake will be on your right.
* From Covell, turn left onto Lake. West Lake will be on your left.
* LampPost is on the right side of the large Ray's store.
WHY:
----
Topics will include:
--------------------
* Introduction to new members
* News, announcements and open forum
* Committess:
UCD-PPP HOWTO: Final Draft (again)
Social Tax Exempt Group Status
LUGOD Logo
Ambassador to other LUGs
Financial Report
Seminar:
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Basics of Shell Programming, Part I
-----------------------------------
This seminar is our first attempt to help new Linux users.
Note: If you have one, please bring a laptop.
WHO:
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LUGOD is open to all members of the public.
HOW:
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For more information about LUGOD, please visit our website:
http://www.lugod.org/
If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=============================================================================
sys (Vice Chairperson) Bill Kendrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/ http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Anderberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.emacs.xemacs,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Xemacs on RH5.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 19:19:23 +0200
>I am trying to install xemacs and I am running RH5.2 on a P400. The
>install seemed to go fine with no errors. I used rpm as follows to do
>the install:
>
>rpm-Uvh
>ftp://sunsite.org.uk/Mirrors/ftp.redhat.com/redhat/powertools/5.2/SRPMS/
>-
> xemacs-20.4-2.src.rpm
>
>As I stated, the above command completed with no errors (about 2hrs
>later). However, it did not
>install anything in my /usr/bin directory or my /usr/lib directories as
Hmm, it looks as you've downloaded the source and not the binary package. If
I'm not misstaken that would get installed in /usr/src/Redhat or something
similar.
/tobias
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: 27 Jun 1999 20:43:03 GMT
NF Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Have you never mistyped "ls" as "sl"?
All the time; that's why I aliased "sl" to "ls-F". :)
Besides, I'm not aware of an "sl" command.
(I checked--unaliased sl, and got "sl: Command not found.")
That sounds like a setup, so what's your argument? That I mistype
"ls" as "sl", which *JUST SO HAPPENS* is the name a hacker gave to
a command in my path?
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"One should not confuse this craving for change and novelty with the
indifference of play which is in its greatest levity at the same time
the most sublime and indeed the only true seriousness." --Georg Hegel
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues.
Date: 27 Jun 1999 20:20:32 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
>
>> Had it [locate] been absent instead of broken, I would have kept
>> poking around with find(1), which is slower than locate(1), but
>> works.
>
>*shrug* locate works for me and has done for years; I've no idea why
>it doesn't work for you.
"It works for me" does not mean "it works." It means it is possible to
make it work under some unknown conditions.
> Have you reported this problem as a bug?
I have stopped reporting bugs to Debian. The Debian team demands
more of people who report bugs than I can provide.
I stopped trying to put things in their FAQ-o-matic, too.
>> The manpage tells you nothing about the syntax of an .sgml file.
>> That is what was well hidden in .html.gz files under /usr/doc.
>> Perhaps someday someone will add a note to the Debian installation
>> page about that unique suffix.
>
>Compressed files are unique to Debian? Right...
Your derision is uncalled for. .html.gz is unusual. It breaks
Web service, because mime.types only handles suffixes with no dots
in them. It's not an obvious thing to search for.
It apparently breaks dwww, too, since that program can't find the
compressed /usr/doc files.
When I am trying to use a system, even one as excellent as Debian,
I have little patience for people who think it's a fun puzzle for a
lazy afternoon. The "I dare you to figure out how to use my system"
attitude is what keeps Microsoft in power. Debian is a great
system, but it still flunks Usability 101, and its obscure and
fragmented documentation is Reason #1.
Cameron
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: internet connection with Linux
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:36:24 GMT
Can you ping IP addresses? It might just be a problem with the DNS
settings.
Eric
In article <7l5u50$s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brutus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using Open Linux 2.2 with KDE and I'm running kppp to get
connected to
> my ISP. I'm able to get a connection through kppp but none of my
> applications seem to be able to find it. Netscape comes back with an
error
> saying that the internet server is not found, telnet also can't find
a
> connection. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> thanks
>
> ------------------ Posted via SearchLinux ------------------
> http://www.searchlinux.com
>
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Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where can I get free Linux CD?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:55:44 -0400
Go to www.linuxmall.com. They have CDs for $1.89 plus shipping
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:09:23 -0400, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Try http://www.cheapbytes.com
>
>Their prices for the distributions are pretty good.
>
>Bob wrote:
>>
>> Can anybody tell me where I can order free, or cheap, Linux CDs on the web?
>> I'm a newbie (can't you tell?) who's hungry to get his hands on a disk.
>> Please help. Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Bob
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: URGENT: How to download Red Hat 6???
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 15:57:11 -0400
Try www.linuxmall.com. The CDs are $1.89 plus shipping.
On Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:48:16 -0500, 9wands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Ed Blosch wrote:
>>
>> Please tell me where to get a $2 copy of RH6.0. Infomagic doesn't have
>> it out yet, and Redhat wants $79.95. GNU wants $150 to precompile
>> everything specifically for my system. Are you saying, if I download it
>> myself and purchase a writable CD-ROM, that I can buy the media for
>> $2 ? How much are writable CD-ROMs?
>>
>> I'm serious, where can I get a CD w/RH6.0 on it for $2? I'd gladly pay
>> $20, but I can't even find it at that price.
>>
>> If I send you the money, can you send me one?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ed
>>
>> brian moore wrote in message ...
>> >On Tue, 18 May 1999 04:34:19 GMT,
>> > Kelson Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> Hey! Anyone downloads RedHat 6 from its ftp site?
>> >> What do you use to download it?
>> >> I'm using cuteFTP and it keeps resolving those symbolic links and keep
>> >> repeating downloading the same files a couple times!!!
>> >> Eg. 'cat' is a link in usr/bin, but it keeps resolving its location and
>> >> download the real 'cat' program!!
>> >> Can anyone help me?? Thanks
>> >
>> >Yes: either download the iso9660 image or spend the $2 on a CD.
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brian Moore | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
>> > Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | a cockroach, except that the cockroach
>> > Usenet Vandal | is higher up on the evolutionary
>> chain."
>> > Netscum, Bane of Elves. Peter Olson, Delphi
>> Postmaster
>
>In a word, Cheapbytes .... not $2, more like $7 ... shipping included
>
>--
>Beware the fury of a patient man.
> - John Dryden
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Ames)
Subject: Add your system to linux resource
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 20:12:06 GMT
I'm starting a desktop linux resource - entirely submission based from
linux users.
http://home.earthlink.net/~christian77/
This page will allow users to confirm that their particular system
runs linux. Mainly though, it will be for configuration and
troubleshooting of a particular system.
Ex. you run linux on a Gateway 2000. Create a simple web page
describing your hardware and Xconfig etc. Send it to me - I'll host
it. Or host it yourself and send me the link.
If you want to add a page or link describing your hardware and your
configuration, send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
thanks,
BTW - this isn't a commercial venture. It is solely to support linux.
Christian
this message was cross-posted to comp.os.linux.setup,
comp.os.linux.help, comp.os.linux.misc
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From: Zdravko Balorda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: writing a screen saver
Date: 27 Jun 1999 19:41:07 GMT
Hi,
I would like to write my own screen saver,
where should I start? I need simple moving
text with instructions to appear on ther
screen when noone is there.
Regards, Zdravko.
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From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: writing a screen saver
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:36:13 -0700
Zdravko Balorda wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I would like to write my own screen saver,
> where should I start? I need simple moving
> text with instructions to appear on ther
> screen when noone is there.
Read up on Xlib and the source for xscreensaver
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: 27 Jun 1999 21:14:37 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: How would a hacker get permissions to add anything to an sbin
: directory
And why would he be silly and put a malevolent 'ls' there when
he's got better things to play with? (Hint: I'm using silly
arguments as a form of mockery.)
:(and moreover, what's one doing in /etc anyway?).
(sorry, typo... in / or /usr/)
: Only root should have write permission for sbin, otherwise anyone
: could screw with your system...
I agree.
: I think it's much more likely that a hacker will break into a
: users account rather than root (what with all the extra barriers
: root is normally fitted with, like local only root login).
I agree. This isn't what I want to find out. I want to know why
people always say putting `.' in your PATH, even at the end of
it (and in light of bash's order of searching for command names),
why that's a security risk. I believe it may be just some relic
from old Unix days, or worse, just some propagated sophism which
thrives on people's fear. If it has some legitimate reason, then
okay, but if it's some form of Luddism, it pisses me off. I don't
think anyone answered yet, beyond saying "for security reasons".
This isn't the fucking National Security Agency. Someone can tell
me. Really. Does everyone just not know the real reason? Is the
emperor wearing clothes? Step by step logic, cite references,
that type of thing... Can I lookup some article at the library,
some webpage, anything? I don't think the arguments I've heard
hold, and the fact that everyone repeats that 'ls' argument
tends to support my hypothesis that nobody really knows and
it's just being parrotted.
(Considering how flippant I've been about security, maybe you'll
be surprised that my account was hacked before. (I was on
Long Island, telnetting back to my account here--system there
didn't have ssh.) I take it seriously, but I don't go hysterical
for no reason...)
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"I'm going to have fun telling you about this absurdity, because I
find it delightful." --Richard Feynman
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From: Chuck Cusack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape crashes on Java
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 16:52:01 -0500
I have ReadHat 6.0, and netscape 4.6-1.
It seems that whenever netscape launched a java applet,
an error message comes up, and netscape crashes before I
can read the error. I recall hearing there was some problem
with the netscape and Redhat 6.0, but can't find any info
on it. What sould I do--get an old version of netscape?
If so, which one, and from where.
A pointer to a site where this is discussed would also be good.
Thanks,
Chuck Cusack.
Reply to me personally if you wish.
My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED], unless you are a spammer,
then it is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 27 Jun 1999 15:44:52 -0700
In gnu.misc.discuss, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer) writes:
:Your derision is uncalled for. .html.gz is unusual. It breaks
:Web service, because mime.types only handles suffixes with no dots
:in them.
I'm sure I've used .html.gz before, but perhaps it was an accidental
success. Still, shouldn't .html.gz simply be
Content-Encoding: x-gzip
Content-Type: text/html
It seems to make sense to have this for .tar:
Content-Type: application/x-tar
But this for both .tgz and for .tar.gz:
Content-Encoding: x-gzip
Content-Type: application/x-tar
--tom
--
Because . doesn't match \n. [\0-\377] is the most efficient way to match
everything currently. Maybe \e should match everything. And \E would
of course match nothing. :-) --Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Inexpensive Linux Distributions
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:53:30 GMT
Probably not the proper place to post this, but here they are.
Includes full GPL distribution, latest kernel and tons of software.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=123324372
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=123324205
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=123323982
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=123323629
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Moritz Moeller-Herrmann)
Crossposted-To: alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Virtual Mac OS on Linux, HOW????
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 00:00:58 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 11:40:01 GMT, Elmar Weiler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Go to http://www.vmware.com. You will be surprised.
I mean it's cool even though I can't get networking going. But how would you
set up a Mac with this? It uses the Intel chips!
--
Moritz Moeller-Herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ# 3585990 # Not only
Get my public pgp / gpg key from # Open Source(TM)
http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/jura/moritz/pubkeymoritz # but also
KDE forever! Use Linux to impress your friends! # Open Minded!
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From: Paul Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printer broken with new kernel..
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 14:24:38 -0800
Hi,
Well I upgraded my kernel to 2.2.8 and for the parallel
port, it uses parport.
Fine. I compiled parport. parport_pc, and lp as modules.
I follow the linux/Documantation/parport.txt:
# insmod parport.o
# insmod parport_pc.o io=0x3bc,0x378,0x278 irq=none,7,auto
What I get when I try to print is:
bash# lpq
waiting for lp to become ready (offline ?)
Rank Owner Job Files Total Size
1st root 76 test.txt 21
bytes
When I check the loaded modules:
bash# /sbin/lsmod
Module Size Used by
parport_pc 5496 0
lp 4264 0 (autoclean) (unused)
parport 6520 0 (autoclean) [parport_pc
lp]
Thanks,
--Paul T.
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From: Benjamin HERZOG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP870 and colors ??
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 02:42:54 +0200
Hello,
I am runing Red Hat 5.1 and Kernel 2.2.4
I try to have my HPDeskjet870Cxi printing colored stuff.
I can print black/white with the HPLaserjet driver, or HPDeskjet500C.
With gs, i can print with the hpdj driver but it doesn't work if i try
to use it with another programm (by installing it in the redhat
printtool).
Thank you for helping.
Benjamin.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Plugin for Realplayer G2!
Date: Sun, 27 Jun 1999 22:52:38 GMT
Actually, there was a bug in the sound playback lib used prior to the
2.2 kernel. That has been fixed now, and unfortubately, RealPlayer 5.0
realied on the bug in order to work. There are a couple of work arounds
available, the simplest (and smallest) being open.so. Do a search on
real.com for open.so, and you should find where to download it.
Better yet, download the G2 alpha, which plays modern streams (better
compression), and does not rely on the above patch to work.
hope this helps ya out ....
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
coffee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Hello, I'm a Linux newbie, I love the OS, but have noticed a few
> > headaches that I've decided to address. One headache is a lack of
plugin
> > support for Netscape for various MIME types (specifically RealPlayer
> > content).
>
> > Cheers, Jalso
> >
>
> Ive got a question. What is so different in the way sound is handled
> between RH 5.2 and 6.0????? I installed realplayer on RH 5.2 and it
> worked fine. I did the same after I upgraded to RH 6.0 and the
> realplayer loads but there is no sound.
>
> I sent a bug report to Realplayer and they said that the problem is in
> how RH6.0 handles the sound differently. They had not made a fix for
it.
>
> How is the sound handled differently and will realplayer ever work
with
> RH 6.0??????
>
> --
> coffee at indy dot net * ICQ 1614986
>
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