Linux-Misc Digest #809, Volume #24 Tue, 13 Jun 00 23:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: text colors (ljb)
Re: printer works but prints an extra message (ray)
Re: Lynx -dump ("Daniel Lackey")
Re: PATH (Robert Schweikert)
Re: Can't log in as root, but can su root ("David ..")
Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true???? (Dave Schanen)
Re: UMOUNTING loopback device..How? (Darq Child)
Re: newbie ? for suse 6.2 (OldUncleMe)
Re: DELL's Linux price is HIGHER than Win98 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ()()()()FLASHIN' SCREEN()()()() (N/A)
WINDOWS 98 PROGRAMS IN LINUX
How to patch kernel? (Steve Browne)
Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ? (Akira Yamanita)
Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ? (John Hasler)
Re: fax under Linux (Yan Seiner)
memory ("Bigoffthewall")
Re: Troubles reading Real Time Clock (Akira Yamanita)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: text colors
Date: 14 Jun 2000 01:12:47 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi
>
>How can you configure RH6.2 text colours for the console? In SCO you can
>use the setcolor command.
>
>I want to set the text to one color, and not change for different file
>types.
Look for "setterm", as in: setterm -foreground cyan -background black
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From: ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printer works but prints an extra message
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:15:45 GMT
Robie Basak wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:30:04 GMT, Daniel said:
> >I run Redhat linux 6.1 and recently compiled my own kernel from source to
> >2.2.16. I then was setting up my printer and got it to work with the bug
> >fix and everything that red hat told me to do. Yet, after I restarted the
> >computer I tried to print something and it printed a message before it
> >printed what I wanted to print in the first place. THe message was made
> >such that the words were spelled with their own letters and was made real
> >big out of its own letters like the j was made out of many j's and so on.
> >the message had my user name in it. it went like this
> > justierd
> > stdin
> > localhost
> >
> > Job:stdin
> > Date:Tude Jun 13 12:36:51 2000
> >
> >And that was the message and I have no idea what to think of it. I've
> >looked all over and don't know what to do so please help me with it.
>
> man printcap
>
> It's called the 'banner', so that multiple people using the printer
> can identify their work quickly.
>
> Robie.
> --
Man, does THAT bring back memories, the gigantic stack of greenbar, the
noise of
the printer, even the smells came flooding back when I read that. Nostalgia.
--
Ray R. Jones
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
Ray's Linux gordo.penguinpowered.com 2.3.99-pre9
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From: "Daniel Lackey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lynx -dump
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:16:28 -0400
Reply-To: "Daniel Lackey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Thank you all for your replies. Michael, this sounds like the my problem. I
found some other research which points to this as the problem. Thanks again.
Dan
"Michael Faurot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8i3k2o$fg4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I run a crontab: lynx -dump http://myserver.cc/file.php3
> : If I run this from a command line, it executes fine, but from cron I
get:
> : "Your terminal lacks the ability to clear the screen or position the
> : cursor."
> : Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
>
> I noticed a similar difficulty with a cronjob I have that uses "lynx
> -dump" when I upgraded a system to RedHat v6.2. Apparently something
> has changed in recent versions of Lynx that demands more tty capabilities
> than previous versions did.
>
> Two things you can do:
>
> 1) Find an older version and use that. I did this by simply
> using the RPM for Lynx v2.8.2 from RedHat v6.1.
>
> 2) Write an Expect wrapper program for lynx. Expect can provide
> Lynx a pseudo-tty environment to run under that'll work when
> run from cron.
>
> --
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
> Michael | mfaurot | Distance doesn't make you any smaller, but it does
> Faurot | atww.net | make you part of a larger picture.
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PATH
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:24:13 -0400
You may want to check out the bash manual at
http://www.gnu.org/manual/bash-2.02/html_chapter/bashref_toc.html
Under "Bash Startup Files" you will find the following:
This section describs how Bash executes its startup files. If any of the
files exist but cannot be read, Bash reports an error. Tildes are
expanded in file names as described above under Tilde Expansion (see
section Tilde Expansion).
When Bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, it first reads and
executes commands from the file `/etc/profile', if that file
exists. After reading that file, it looks for `~/.bash_profile',
`~/.bash_login', and `~/.profile', in that order, and
reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable.
The `--noprofile' option may be used when the shell
is started to inhibit this behavior.
When a login shell exits, Bash reads and executes commands from the file
`~/.bash_logout', if it exists.
When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, Bash reads
and executes commands from `~/.bashrc', if that file exists.
This may be inhibited by using the `--norc' option. The `--rcfile file'
option will force Bash to read and execute
commands from file instead of `~/.bashrc'.
So, typically, your `~/.bash_profile' contains the line
if [ -f `~/.bashrc' ]; then . `~/.bashrc'; fi
after (or before) any login-specific initializations.
When Bash is started non-interactively, to run a shell script, for example,
it looks for the variable BASH_ENV in the environment,
expands its value if it appears there, and uses the expanded value as the
name of a file to read and execute. Bash behaves as if the
following command were executed:
if [ -n "$BASH_ENV" ]; then . "$BASH_ENV"; fi
but the value of the PATH variable is not used to search for the file name.
If Bash is invoked with the name sh, it tries to mimic the startup behavior
of historical versions of sh as closely as possible, while
conforming to the POSIX standard as well.
When invoked as an interactive login shell, it first attempts to read and
execute commands from `/etc/profile' and
`~/.profile', in that order. The `--noprofile' option may be used to
inhibit this behavior. When invoked as an interactive
shell with the name sh, Bash looks for the variable ENV, expands its value
if it is defined, and uses the expanded value as the name of a
file to read and execute. Since a shell invoked as sh does not attempt to
read and execute commands from any other startup files, the
`--rcfile' option has no effect. A non-interactive shell invoked with the
name sh does not attempt to read any startup files.
When invoked as sh, Bash enters POSIX mode after the startup files are
read.
When Bash is started in POSIX mode, as with the `--posix' command line
option, it follows the POSIX standard for startup files. In
this mode, interactive shells expand the ENV variable and commands are read
and executed from the file whose name is the expanded
value. No other startup files are read.
Bash attempts to determine when it is being run by the remote shell daemon,
usually rshd. If Bash determines it is being run by rshd, it
reads and executes commands from `~/.bashrc', if that file exists and is
readable. It will not do this if invoked as sh. The
`--norc' option may be used to inhibit this behavior, and the `--rcfile'
option may be used to force another file to be read, but
rshd does not generally invoke the shell with those options or allow them
to be specified.
Conclusion: change /etc/profile
Happy Hacking
Robert
Philip wrote:
> I am trying to change the PATH variable so that /usr/local comes before
> /usr/bin and apparently I am looking and changing the wrong files. I am
> using RH 6.1 and have attempted to change the files
> .bash_profile and gdm.conf, but there appears to be some other place
> where an earlier default for PATH is initially added. Not only would I
> like to know where this other file is but also which documentation is
> recommended for finding answers to questions like this.
>
> Thanks
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't log in as root, but can su root
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:19:19 -0500
"Derek E." wrote:
>
> I'm trying to set up my linux firewall box. I first got it running with
> tcp/ip networking. I then added some packages by putting in my linux
> mandrake 6.1 boot disk and selecting upgrade (its a lot easier to
> satisfy dependencies). The next time I rebooted, I could not log in as
> root. It would simply say "login incorrect." I can log in as my normal
> user account, then su root. But I can't log into root directly. This
> only happened since I used the bootdisk to upgrade the packages.
>
> Can someone please help, I'm very frustrated. Thanks.
Look in /etc/securetty and be sure that all tty's are not commented out.
I would only uncomment "tty1" which should let you log in as root.
--
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Dave Schanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Sun Sparc faster then intel pentium: is this true????
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:23:28 -0500
"Stephen E. Halpin" wrote:
> The topic is SPARC vs Intel, and its been demonstrated that for a
> specific set of tasks that the Intel chips can easily be more than
> twice as fast as the UltraSPARCs when running the same code. Just
> as there is code compiled nonoptimally for various Intel platforms,
> there is also code which has not been optimized for V9 of the SPARC
> architecture, and which does not take advantage of the VIS instruction
> set. Plenty of folks use GCC when it doesnt necessarily produce code
> that is competative with the various RISC vendors compilers. If you
> are deploying a custom system where your hardware costs for an Intel
> solution is $10M and your equivalent Sun hardware still costs $20M
> after discount, you can afford to do a lot of code optimization.
Point taken about gcc on sparc, but lots of commercial applications for
the sparc line use a sun compiler, and if you don't like the fact that
most open source stuff is done in gcc, you can always sort through the
code and fix compiler specific code and re-compile it under a different
compiler. Most Windows stuff is done in Visual C++ or a 3rd party
compiler other than Intel's, when you say you can afford a lot of code
optimization it sounds like you're assuming that the all the people
using these machines are programmers who are going write all their
software in house, when it's a lot cheaper to buy the shrink wrapped
stuff.
>
> Also, when Im writing CPU bound applications, the time is spent in
> my code, not the kernel, so what little NT does in the background
> isnt of much concern.
Okay, but that's your specific case, it doesn't change the fact that nt
has some big performance problems which everyone using it will have to
deal with.
> You obviously werent watching DECs stock drop from $199 to $17 during
> the development and initial releases of the Alpha AXP processors and
> systems. Even with far better performance, they are having trouble
> in the market because they dont have the application support they need.
Benchmarks can be tweaked to take advantage of a specific platform or in
the case of spec be based on technology that isn't in general use. It
would be difficult to tweak the test so the 64 bit alpha, which has
always been more than 2 to 3 times the clock frequency of the intel
chips until recently, isn't faster. It's always been about the speed
and quantity/availibility of the existing applications, most people
don't develop all the software they use like yourself. A nonexistent
application base is obviously going to hurt your business, DEC spent too
much time and money on chip speed while failing to write the software
base to market it's platform, and the length of time it took to port
VMS didn't help that much.
> You have yet to offer any evidence that the benchmarks dont give any
> indication of the CPU performance that can be extracted from these
> processors by a developer who takes the time to properly optimize
> their code.
I never intended to, my point was that spec is unrealistic as almost no
software exists which takes advantage of compiler in the benchmark. I
take back the bit about it being a 'theoretical' compiler as I didn't
know intel actually had it available for a reasonable price (my bad, I
try to avoid their site as I always get bombarded with P III ads).
Since Sun's compiler and ultrasparc technologies are all under one
roof, unlike Intel and Microsoft's technologies, you're not going have
the matter of the OS being compiled with an older compiler than is
currently available, or MS simply deciding that they don't want to
license anything from intel as people will have to buy their new
products regardless of how slow they are.
Dave-o
Dave-o
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From: Darq Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: UMOUNTING loopback device..How?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:48:56 GMT
make sure that NO processes are using any files on the device...
That's all my advice.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (OldUncleMe)
Subject: Re: newbie ? for suse 6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:49:42 GMT
It was: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:41:33 GMT and with STARTLING insight,
"Mike_the_poopball <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>"
posted "newbie ? for suse 6.2"
to "comp.os.linux.misc" :
--> I have two hdd's in my linux server. I was wondering how i can (or if)
-->mount the second hdd. I want to mount it and then point apache to it so
-->I can run the webserver off of the second hdd.
-->
-->--
-->if ($name eq "Mike"); {
-->print "laters, Mike";
-->}else{
-->print "who are you and how did you get in here? ";
make a mount point, which is just a directory somewheres:
mkdir /hdb1
then
mount /dev/hdb1 /hdb1
(you can add this line at the end of /etc/fstab to have it mount at boot
time. Make it look like this:
/dev/hdb1 /hdb1 ext2 defaults 1 1
The above assumes that your distro uses fstab, and that you wish to mount
the first partition on hdb harddisk, and it's formatted with ext2
filesystem.)
Let's say for sake of clarity that the web files you wish apache to serve
are under the main directory on hdb1, which is now found as /hdb1 (or any
naming scheme you've chosen....) So, make an entry in your main apache
configuration file, whatever it's called, such as:
<Directory />
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
</Directory>
So, go to your current "document root" (as apache sees it), probably it's:
cd /home/httpd/html
There make a softlink to your mount point:
ln -s /hdb1 my-directory-name
When you list (ls -l) the document root now, the softlink will appear as a
directory, which you can cd to, and it will be named my-directory-name/ and
now for all intents and purposes it is usable just as though it were a
directory in your document root, but it refers to whatever point you
pointed the link to anywhere in your filesystem. You can use this link
trick for all kinds of purposes. A lot of simple little steps, basically
very easy though. Here's an example of a link from my document root, and
as it happens, /usr is on hdb6:
perl -> /usr/scripts/perl/
So the softlink, which appears to exist as a normal directory in
/home/httpd/html/ and acts just like one as far as apache is concerned, is
actually referencing a directory on another drive that has been mounted
under the mount point /usr and actually this foreign partition serves the
whole filesystem as /usr would.... /ts
PS: need a closing brace on that .sig!!
tenox @ home dot com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DELL's Linux price is HIGHER than Win98
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:07:40 GMT
I just bought a Unionbuiltbox with Red Hat 6.2 and an Athlon and thought
I got a pretty good price. I know the Win98 machine from them was more
expensive. It runs really well I didn't check the Dell price. I don't
have the knowledge to build one on my own like you do, so I don't know
what building one would cost. Why don't you just build your own and get
it at 30% less than they all sell them for? Would you build me one for
free if I bought the parts and wanted to add an other? that would be
super. I could network a couple then. Let me know That would be
great!!!!!!!!!!!
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Alex Lam." <"here,there"@everywhere.com> wrote:
> Leonard Evens wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > Can anyone answer this one? Why is the price for a Dell running
Linux
> > > more that the price for a Win98 box. It should be cheaper
considering
> > > it is a FREE OS!!! I checked the Dell web site and configured a
"Dell
> > > Dimension XPS T" and for Win98 the price was $1,658 but for RedHat
Linux
> > > 6.1 (The older Version) $1,737. I have listed the Dell options
below:
> > >
> > > Date: 6/5/00 @ 8:00AM
> > > Dell Dimension XPS T PIII Mini Tower: PIII @ 700MHz [220-2135]
> > > Memory: 128MB 100MHz SDRAM [311-8410]
> > > Keyboard: QuietKey Keyboard [310-7002]
> > > Monitor: Dell Ultrascan P780 17" [320-4501]
> > > Video Card: 32MB NVIDA geFORCE 4X AGP Graphics Card [320-0131]
> > > Hard Drive: 20.4 GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive [340-2409]
> > > Operating System: Win98 [310-8921] or Linux [420-2250]
> > > Mouse: MS IntelliMouse [310-0050]
> > > Network Card: 3COM 3C905C-TXM 10/100 Remote Wake Up [430-3280]
> > > Modem: No Modem [313-3607]
> > > Optical Drives: 48X Max / 20X Min CDROM [313-3922]
> > > Sound Card: SoundBlaster Live! Value Digital [313-7869]
> > > Speakers: Harmon/Kardon Speakers [313-3925]
> > > Bundled Software: No MS Office [412-1397]
> > > Iomega Zip Drives: No Zip Drives [460-8320]
> > > Norton Antivirus: NAV 2000 [412-5620] ONLY ON THE MS SYSTEMS FOR
FREE!!
> > > Service: 1 Yr. Next Business Day On-Site P&L, Yrs 2&3, BSC
[900-1590]
> > >
> > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > Before you buy.
> >
> > Another likely theory: Dell may just have compared their prices
> > to vendors like Penguin, Indybox, etc., and come up with a price
> > that is in line with those vendors. Since they have such an
> > advantage in hardware volume, they may be able to boost their
> > Linux profit margin thereby.
> >
> I'm looking for another machine lately. I run Solaris, BSD and
> Linux only. I've found that almost all 'Linux specialists'
> computer vendors are way over-priced. Especially those who only
> preinstall Red Hat.
>
> I believe many just support Linux because Linux is free, that
> means more profits for them; and the saving from the free OS is
> not passing down to the customers.
>
> Also, Linux now is a trendy thing to have. It's fashionable,
> and hot trendy/fashion are very marketable.
> And will make them look cool and good. So they can say "Hey,
> I'm with the cutting/bleeding edge technology." :p
>
> You can build an identical box for at least 30% less.
>
> Alex Lam.
> > --
> >
> > Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> > Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
>
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: N/A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ()()()()FLASHIN' SCREEN()()()()
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:30:04 GMT
Tom Hoffmann wrote:
>
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, N/A
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I go to log into Corel Linux Delux for the first time and suddenly the
> > screen begins to flash when it asks me to log in, how can i stop
> > this?
>
> Boot to a command prompt and run XF86Setup or Xconfigurator. It owuld
> seem from your description that X is not configured correctly for your
> monitor/video card combination.
>
>any trick to configuring that properly or am i gonna just have to find
out? and......what is the best version of Linux? advance level not an
issue.
--
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WINDOWS 98 PROGRAMS IN LINUX
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:30:05 GMT
I really don't want to have to dual boot. I would rather have Linux as my
os and be able to run some of my windows programs from within Linux. Is
this feasible and/or the best approach? I like to work on this machine as
well as play the usual games. System is a NEC Pentium II 233 MMX, 96 megs
Ram, 16mg Voodoo 3 PCI video card, ethernet card for cable modem, 56k modem
and Sound blaster sound card. I have plenty of Hard disk space.
--
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From: Steve Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to patch kernel?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:39:06 -0600
I see that www.kernel.org provides kernel update patches as well as
the kernels ("patch-2.3.21.gz" for example). After "patch" is
unzipped, how is it applied? Is there a command, "patch", to do this?
Thanks for your help.
Steve
Stephen B. Browne
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:48:22 GMT
"Andrew E. Schulman" wrote:
>
> > Check out Explore2fs Windows 95 file browser like interface for Linux
> > parititions , write enable is "experimental" but seems to work alright
> > (cross my fingers).
>
> Sounds to me like a massive security hole.
Having physical access to machine is a massive security hole. Either
you're allowing this to happen dual-booting with Windows and allowing
others to install software that shouldn't be there or someone stole
the hard drive. The only decent way around that (that I know of) is
an encrypted file system. You can read an NTFS partition from Linux.
There are programs to read NetWare volumes from Windows as well.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Read Linux partition from Win95 ?
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:39:44 GMT
Someone who Andrew E. Schulman failed to give proper credit to wrote:
> Check out Explore2fs Windows 95 file browser like interface for Linux
> parititions , write enable is "experimental" but seems to work alright
> (cross my fingers).
Andrew E. Schulman writes:
> Sounds to me like a massive security hole.
Then so is Norton Disk Doctor.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Yan Seiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fax under Linux
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:05:33 -0400
1. The fax implementation in your modem may be broken. A lot of modem
manufacturers really put out crappy fax modems. USR is one of the
worst.
2. What fax software are you using? I use hylafax with a multitech
modem with very few problems.
The fact that you can't send a fax using either MS fax or linux tells me
your fax may be badly broken.
--Yan
Leonard Evens wrote:
>
> I just had an occasion to try to send a fax. I have a US Robotics
> 56 K modem which is supposed to be a fax modem. But I couldn't
> get the program fax to work. The problem may have been that
> I don't have a level 2 fax modem, but it is only about three or
> four years old. Can anyone direct me to appropriate documentation?
> Also which fax program is the most convenient to use?
>
> P.S. I also tried to send the fax using the MS Fax under
> Windows without success.
> --
>
> Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: "Bigoffthewall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: memory
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 22:55:52 -0400
im trying to get my red hat box to recognize the 64 meg dimms chip i put
in.. i am adding that to the already existing16 meg dimms. i added to
etc/lilo.conf append="mem= 80M".. once i try and boot i get a kernel
panic...could anyone please help
thanks
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Troubles reading Real Time Clock
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:59:11 GMT
Edward Lee wrote:
>
> What is the standard notation for time server, similar to ns (name server). ts
> did not work for me. Are there public time servers available, if my isp does not
> have it?
I don't think there's a real naming standard for NTP servers. I've
seen ntp, clock, gps, gpstime, etc.
This site has a list of public time servers. Someone posted a more
official one recently. Try a search on deja.com.
http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/servers.htm
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