Linux-Misc Digest #834, Volume #20               Mon, 28 Jun 99 19:13:14 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Linux loses in NT tests (Alex Lam)
  Re: PROXY ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Which Linux for beginner? (William Wueppelmann)
  undefined reference at link time ! (steller)
  Re: ISPS (Dan Glover)
  Critical Decision ("Paul Davies")
  Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36 (Patrick Letovsky)
  Re: ISPS (Mark Brown)
  Re: Shared libs: DLL hell for Linux (Larry)
  Re: Xwindows Manger (Larry)
  modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-8086 (Robert Saunders)
  Re: Microsoft FrontPage� 2000 Server Extensions for Linux... (Elizabeth A. Evans)
  Re: Opinions on linux cd-rom vendors? (Clarence Riddle)
  HELP! Netscape doesn't recognize dialed-up connections (U.V. Ravindra)
  Re: leafnode (Daniel Wagner)
  nohup not working (Siemel Naran)
  12.50$ per referral, new program - so get to be first to sign up and get lots of 
referrals! (Morag)
  Re: How do I find out how much disk space is free (Clarence Riddle)
  Re: Getting a Soundblaster Live Value to work ("Aaron Thompson")
  Re: Linux loses in NT tests (Silviu Minut)
  Attractive alternative to xconsole? (Chris Menzel)
  This is my favorite Linux site (it has everything) (Brad Smith)
  HELP::linuxconf (Jae Song)

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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux loses in NT tests
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 13:29:53 -0700



Stewart Honsberger wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 11:22:19 -0400, Silviu Minut wrote:
> >> Redhat SUX big time anyway....
> >
> >Not trying to defend RedHat (although I'm running it), just trying to
> >understand, but why does it suck that bad?
> 
> I've seen a lot of people jumping on the "RedHat SUX" bandwagon lately,
> and while I think I know where they're coming from - I don't think THEY
> know where they're coming from.
> 
No, I didn't jump on the Redhat Sux bandwagon lately.  I've been
bitching about Redhat for a couple years at least. (since RH 4.0)

So I know where I'm coming from.

> People see RedHat as the MicroSoft of the Linux world. This scares quite a
> few people. Apparently, a lot of kernel developers are under the employ of
> RedHat - another bad point.
> 
I'd have care less if they produce good codes.

> I see a lot of RedHat marketting, and notice that RedHat is the distro that's
> being bundled with machines from IBM and Dell. This only serves to strengthen
> the bottom-line fears people have about them.
> 
Not me.

> All this aside - I've also heard several "horror stories" about RedHat, but
> on the other side of the coin; a lot of them have been solved by RTFM ;>
> 
Yes and no,

> I, personally, am a SuSE user. I've seen RedHat, and I've seen/talked to
> people who have used both (in an ISP environment, in particular) and have
> switched to SuSE quite happily; proclaiming that they'll never go back.
> 
I use SuSE, Open Linux and FreeBSD (FreeBSD-recently)
Yes, SuSE is very nice. Everything works even without having to read the
menu.
(Do you think any of the distro menus really tell you anything other
than the initial installation start up?)

Most of the menus are junk.

> I'm not sure what this message is supposed to get across, but I think I'm
> trying to let people know that if they're going to get on a bandwagon -
> atleast know why you're there.
> 
I have installed SuSE, OpenLinux and FreeBSD on 5 boxes, from old P-133
to brand new
dual cpu, full U2WSCSI boxes. all without having to read the menu, and
without a single hiccup.

No so with Redhat. Redhat killed one of my 17" monitor during auto
probing. Redhat chocked on ALL 5 boxes that I have since 4.0.(The same 5
boxes that I have SuSE, OpenLinux and FreeBSD installed properly.)

Now, Don't tell me there's nothing wrong with Redhat. And I have very
good reason to blast RH. And there're many reviews out there to support
my opinion.

Alex Lam.

> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PROXY
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:22:42 GMT

On the win box go to control planel, network,
TCP/IP properties, set gateway to the IP # of the
linux box. If you have the linux box files
correct this sholud be all you need.

Also there is a program call "Sqiud" I know it
comes with Mandrake 6.0 CD". This is a proxy &
cache program. After it's install, go to
/etc/squid/squid.conf and commet out the 2 lines
under "user rules" Is set to auto start at boot.
Set the proxy on your browser to the linux box IP
adress and the port to 3128.

Good Luck!


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Subject: Re: Which Linux for beginner?
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:15:43 GMT

In our last episode (Sat, 26 Jun 1999 02:31:08 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Artur Leung said:
>Hi,
>
>     I am interested in setting up Linux besides my usual Win95/NT
>environment.  I came across the Slakware and RedHat Linux.  Which one
>should I install?

Slackware, because once you get it set up and configured, you will no
longer be a beginner.

Seriously though, if your main objective is to learn about Linux, don't
choose a distribution because it makes it easy for you to do things without
understanding them.  The distribution you start with isn't the distribution
you have to stick with for all time.

If your goal is to learn rather than to instantly get a Linux system up and
running, do it the hard way; it's more educational.

FWIW, my first attempt at installing Linux was with Slackware (and from
floppy disks at that) and while I didn't get it right the first, second, or
third time, it was certainly a valuable experience.  I later tried Redhat
and then finally tried Debian, which I was immediately impressed by and
which I've used ever since.

-- 
It is pitch black.  
You are likely to be spammed by a grue.

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From: steller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: undefined reference at link time !
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:13:26 +0200

Hello world !

here is my probleme : I want to compile the xtraceroute program. I need
gtk, gtkglarea.
I configure, compile and install gtk : OK !
I configure, compile and install gtkglarea : OK !
now I configure and compile xtraceroute and, at link time I get
undefined references.

Here is what happens :
gtk declares and defines 2 functions. The code is included in the
archive libgtk.a.
gtkglarea wrappes the 2 above mentionned functions, and we get an
archive file libgtkgl.a.
When linking xtraceroute object files with above archives, the linker
complains that, in libgtkgl.a, it can not resolve the 2 functions.

Is it that the linker can not resolve references between chained archive
files ?

More probably, as I got all above programs as .tgz from the net, I
suppose they compile correctly but there is something wrong on my system
(redhat 5.2 with gcc 2.8.1).

If somebody can help ....

steller



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From: Dan Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ISPS
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 20:58:11 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7l7mgq$eg8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Darren Paxton 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I am just posting this message to gauge some feedback from the Linux
>community in the world.

You've had some already, I see.  Most of it argues against your POV that
Microsoft is dominant and "ISPs are based on Microsoft", but I'm going
to take a slightly different view.

>Since Microsoft has the dominating share in the market of computing (I
>do not think anyone would doubt this statement), every ISP in the world
>is generally based on Microsoft. As we all know, this is a very
>annoying factor for those of us who wish to connect through our Linux

The majority of ISPs expect the majority of their customers/users to be
connecting a machine running Windows95/98.  It suits their purposes to
optimise their service/support based on this expectation.

>boxes. The only way that we do connect is by hacking the dns servers
>and trying to find out from technical support what authentications are
>used, etc.

It used to be a safe-ish assumption that users of other operating
systems had sufficient technical knowledge to set things up without
assistance.  For the amusement I have opened a number of accounts with
free ISPs and not once have I needed to contact technical support.  Note
that this includes *opening* the account via Netscape under Linux, thus
proving that one doesn't need to be running IE5...

>What I would like to ask you all, if any of your ISPs (and where they
>are based), FULLY support Linux. Personally, I have used Freeserve
>(don't ask). Softnet (not bad), and In2Home (also, not bad). Now, I am
>using a dialup script to my old university (the only script for
>connecting that has actually worked for me).

Freeserve has (had) intermittent problems which might lead the
inexperienced Linux user to waste lots of time trying different things.
When it works it isn't too bad.  You get what you pay for, at least.

>Obviously, with the popularity of, and curiosity about Linux increasing
>all the time, does anyone feel, like I do, that its about time the ISPs
>start supporting Linux?

When there is a *commercial* benefit I'm sure they will do so.  One or
two have "official" support pages showing the necessary details for
Linux (and also useful for Mac owners, etc).  In other cases you've got
to be prepared to do your own research.  The business model for the free
ISPs is quite interesting - they almost certainly don't have the margins
to employ people with detailed Unix/Linux knowledge to sit and take
support calls.

>Like I have stated before, I have had major problems connecting to the
>UK service Freeserve through Linux, and through the newsgroups, I
>tracked down about 10 different methods to connect. I do not know if I
>had maybe done something wrong with the scripting or whatever, but I
>just gave up. My idea is, wouldn't it be better if, when you want to
>connect to the ISP, they give you a CD, or even a disk, that contains
>the relevant scripting, or even a tar archive or an rpm with a dialer
>script.

For reasons which others have already mentioned this is actually not a
very good idea, nor is it practical...there are several "flavours" of
Linux and an infinte number of ways to configure things, so it will be
almost impossible to come up with a 'one size fits all' approach.  In
practice one sees lots of complaints along the lines "the [insert name
of ISP] disk trashed my Internet Explorer settings and I ended up having
to reinstall everything..." so it's not entirely plain sailing in the
'doze world.

>If there were some SUPPORTED way of connecting, then it would make it
>easier for some of the less "tooled-up" scripters among us.

I've heard very good reports of wvdial, which apparently has a certain
amount of intelligence.  I've also seen dozens of reports of problems
with kppp so a lot seems to depend on your choice of tools for the job.
Also note that the latest versions of pppd allow determination of DNS
settings automatically, so that's less of an issue.  The finest way to
configure a PPP link, however, is to read the documentation and do it
the "hard" way: at least that will give you some useful knowledge about
protocols etc and you'll know when the ISP's equipment is at fault
rather than your own.

I have a pet project here to take one of those .ins files and construct
the necessary settings for a basic connection, but someone else will
probably have done the job by the time I get round to doing any
substantial work in that direction.  In any case I'm not intending to do
anything other than get it to start a PPP link, mail, news and that sort
of thing will have to be left to the user's preferences.

Dan

-- 
Dan Glover ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Today's Excuse:
  The ring needs another token

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From: "Paul Davies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Critical Decision
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 22:01:54 +0100

I've just set up a startup which has recently attracted significant funding.
We are building a high performance OLTP web based application using Oracle
8i.

Having been developed on Linux, I am a keen advocate. However, I know Linux
has not proven it self as an enterprise, high throughput database server. I
am therefore losing sleep trying to decide between Solaris or Linux.

I'm generally a risk taker, so I'd quite like to bet on a clustered linux
solution with load balancing running Oracle 8i.  However, I've also got to
run the company and want to minimize the technology risk (there are enough
risks as it is!)

I would be interested in what people think about the Linux vs Solaris on
database servers.





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From: Patrick Letovsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:19:14 -0700

I heard the same thing, but I can't find any information on this patch
to override the limitation.

Parick

"Axel H�lzer" wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> is there any solution to work with files larger than 2 GB on
> Intel-processor based machines? I am running RedHat Linux 5.2 with
> kernel 2.0.36. I heard about patch for kernelversions 2.2.x.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
>     A X E L
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Mark Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: ISPS
Date: 28 Jun 1999 21:35:09 +0100

"Alan J. Wylie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Try the following:
> (you'll need a special dial in to sign up, or do it from
> Windows. Note that https://signup.freeserve.net has an s after the http)

This appears to have been changed.  I recently managed to sign up
quite happily from Linux without using a special dialup - just my
regular connection.

-- 
Mark Brown  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   (Trying to avoid grumpiness)
            http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/
EUFS        http://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Shared libs: DLL hell for Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jun 1999 15:29:14 -0600

On 28 Jun 1999 17:18:03 GMT, Eric Y. Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>Anthony W. Youngman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>...
>: is still libc5 based. And StarOffice came with the libraries required
>: (and instructions) to install it on a libc5 system, as it used glibc2.
>
>...
>
>Is this why forcing a StarOffice install renders a system unbootable?
>
>Eric
>

I installed Staroffice on a libc5 system and had no problems. Worked first
time.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Subject: Re: Xwindows Manger
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jun 1999 15:29:15 -0600

>Hi everyone,
>I've setup my Xwindows Manager and it took a default manager one which is
>fvwm95-2. how can I switch to a different manager when I startup my
>Xwindows. I wanted to try out all different Xwindows managers that come
>with slackware 3.4. Also, would someone show me how to change a
>background color of xterm? thanks in advance.

In your $HOME directory make the file .xinitrc and put the window managers
you want in it. Such as:

xsetroot -solid black
xrdb $HOME/.Xresources
#blackbox
#fvwm
#twm
#enlightenment
#blackbox
#startkde
wmaker 

just un-comment the one you want to run like I did windowmaker.


to change the foreground and background in xterms start it with the
following:

xterm -bg black -fg cyan

Read the xterm man page. The options can also be put into the .Xdefaults
file. Read the man pages for X, startx, xterm and so on for more info.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Saunders)
Subject: modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-8086
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:28:47 GMT

Howdy..
I am getting this error in my messages log file.. what does this
mean..  and how can I correct the problem.

Jun 28 16:21:31 tigman last message repeated 2 times
Jun 28 16:21:31 tigman modprobe: can't locate module binfmt-8086

Thanks in advance.. 

Robert 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elizabeth A. Evans)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Microsoft FrontPage� 2000 Server Extensions for Linux...
Date: 28 Jun 1999 20:54:23 GMT

I just want to be sure I'm not misreading the messages (from here and
elsewhere) about Office 2000 and FP extensions (under Solaris,
specifically)... We've been refusing to install the server extensions
for FP because of the well-known security problems. I just want to be
sure that the same (or new and different :-}) security problems are
present in the Office 2000 version. Are there *different* server extensions
for 2000? That are more secure?

I have no expectation that the security issues *are* any better. I just
want to be sure before again telling our users we cannot install the
extensions. (And I'll be very pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong. I
much prefer giving our users what they want.)

Many thanks in advance.

-- Libby
===================
Elizabeth A. Evans
Manager, Instructional Technology Development Group
Academic Technology and Networks
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Home Page: http://www.unc.edu/~uevans/homepage.html
UNC-CH Home Page: http://www.unc.edu


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From: Clarence Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Opinions on linux cd-rom vendors?
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 16:56:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I bought my RH6.0 at Cheapbytes. No problems and looks like the real thing.

cgr



Eugene wrote:

> One more good experience with Cheapbytes. I ordered stuff from them 3 times
> already, and have been satisfied with the service. They have a nice ordering
> system too, unlike linuxmall, linuxcentral, etc.
>
> Geoff Stanbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I've decided to order Slackware 4.0 on cdrom from some internet
> > vendor, and I'm wondering which vendor I should go with?  As in,
> > Walnut Creek, Linuxmall, Cheapbytes, etc.  Does it make any
> > difference?  I mean, things cost so much less at Cheapbytes, but are
> > their products somehow of worse quality?  Thanks for any and all
> > opinions.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (U.V. Ravindra)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: HELP! Netscape doesn't recognize dialed-up connections
Date: 28 Jun 1999 14:12:56 -0700


I have SuSE 6.1 installed on my PC.  Modem setup is fine.  Connections
are successfully established with my dial up server.  DHCP works
successfully after the connection is established with the server, and
I am able to telnet/ftp to Unix boxes on the "other side"
successfully.

However, when I start up Netscape, it doesn't recognize the open 
connection.  What could be going wrong?  I've tried looking
everywhere, but I can't see a single place in Netscape where I
can set anything up with respect to this?  If my local xterms
are able to recognize the existence of the connection, why isn't
my local Netscape able to do the same thing?

Is it something in my network configuration files, perchance?

Another question: is it possible to pop up X terms/windows on my
Linux box (this side of the firewall, with its server assigned IP
address and all) from the Unix boxes on the "other side"?  How?
(How will the Unix machine resolve the addess of my Linux box)?

I tried export DISPLAY=<myLinuxBoxName>:0.0 but the Unix box
spat in my face! :-(

Thanks in advance for your help.

--
Ravindra

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From: Daniel Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: leafnode
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:15:27 +0000

Hello,

Your last line gave me the solution, case I was using version 1.7.x.
After I=B4ve installed the 1.9.x version everthing worked good.

Thanks Daniel.

-- =

Java rulz! Linux rulz!

E-Mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ:    41472160
WWW:    http://www.computer.privateweb.at/daniel.wagner/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Siemel Naran)
Subject: nohup not working
Date: 28 Jun 1999 22:06:30 GMT

I find that nohup is not working.

I made the following program
   // silly.cc
   int main() { while (true) ; }
And compiled it with
   g++ --pedantic silly.cc -o silly

Then I run the program with this
   nohup silly
   /usr/bin/nohup silly &
In tcsh, nohup is a builtin shell command.  So the first version uses
the builtin nohup whereas the second version uses the nohup in
/usr/bin/.  In bash, nohup is not a builtin.  So both versions use the
nohup in /usr/bin/.

Now here is the relevant result of "ps f".
   21917  qd S    0:00 -sh
   21933  qd R N  0:03  \_ silly
We see that process/program "silly" is running under sh, just as if we
had typed "silly &".  In other words, process "silly" is a child process
of "sh".  But this is precisely what I don't want because when I log out
of the window with "exit", process 21917 and its child process 21933 are
killed.  So "silly" is killed.

My questions.
1. How can I keep a program running after I log out (I thought nohup
   does the job)?
2. Is there something wrong with GNU nohup (both the versions in tcsh
   and /usr/bin/tcsh)?


Thanks.

--
==================================
Siemel B. Naran ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
==================================

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Date: 29 Jun 1999 00:54:21 +0200

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From: Clarence Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I find out how much disk space is free
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:05:04 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

try:   df


cgr



John Quinn wrote:

> I am running Suse 6.1. Could any one tell me what is
> the command to find out how much disk space I have
> free. I am unable to install any packages and I think I
> have used all the space available, but I do not know
> the command to find out how much free space on
> the hard disk I have free.
>
> thanks.
>
> john
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Aaron Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Getting a Soundblaster Live Value to work
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:22:59 -0500

use the 2.2.5 kernel.  it works fine.  i don't know why they made it version
specific, but they did.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Has anyone managed to do this at all? I've tried every logical compilation
>option I can think of with my 2.2.7 kernel but I just can't get the damn
thing
>to make a peep. All I ever get is a "No such device" error when trying to
>access /dev/audio or /dev/dsp. I've had no luck with modules either.
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>NJR



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From: Silviu Minut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux loses in NT tests
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:57:22 -0400

>
> All this aside - I've also heard several "horror stories" about RedHat, but
> on the other side of the coin; a lot of them have been solved by RTFM ;>
>

So true!


>
> I, personally, am a SuSE user. I've seen RedHat, and I've seen/talked to
> people who have used both (in an ISP environment, in particular) and have
> switched to SuSE quite happily; proclaiming that they'll never go back.
>

I keep hearing good things about SuSE, and I'm not saying RH is the best. I just
don't think throwing in
statements like "RH is junk" or "everything sucks" are any good without concrete
support.


>
> I'm not sure what this message is supposed to get across, but I think I'm
> trying to let people know that if they're going to get on a bandwagon -
> atleast know why you're there.
>
> --
> Stewart Honsberger (AKA Blackdeath) @ http://sprk.com/blackdeath/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  (Remove 'thirteen' to reply privately)
> Humming along under SuSE Linux 6.0 / OS/2 Warp 4


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Menzel)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Attractive alternative to xconsole?
Date: 28 Jun 1999 16:58:21 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does anyone know of a more attractive alternative to xconsole and its
ugly Athena scroll bars?  I have tried recompiling with neXtaw, to no
avail; the new widgets don't take.  Using Xaw3d yields a slight
improvement, but not much.  Any pointers appreciated.

-chris

==================================================================
Christopher Menzel               | web: philebus.tamu.edu/~cmenzel
Philosophy, Texas A&M University | net:      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
College Station, TX  77843-4237  | vox:             (409) 845-8764
==================================================================


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Smith)
Subject: This is my favorite Linux site (it has everything)
Date: 28 Jun 1999 21:17:23 GMT

This is my favorite Linux site (it has everything) Http:\\209.35.64.222 
check it out as soon as you can.  Lots of downloads.


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From: Jae Song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HELP::linuxconf
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:37:46 -0400

When I click on any of the linuxconf menu items, nothing happens....I am
unable to add users, configure certain params, etc. via the GUI
interface.  Does anyone have any idea why this is behaving this way?

I'm running RH 5.2 and have the following installed:
  gnome-linuxconf-0.14-4rh
  linuxconf-1.12r5-6rh
  linuxconf-devel-1.12r5-6rh


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