Linux-Misc Digest #834, Volume #21 Thu, 16 Sep 99 13:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: Gnome vs KDE (Nick Roux)
Q: Default directory for shell (Thomas M. Sasala)
Re: "bash: id:command not found" ("slOOp")
fetchmail and postfix (Alex Flinsch)
gnome-error ** ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: crontab won't work (Stuart R. Fuller)
NetWare to Linux? (Karl)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Igor Sobrado Delgado)
Re: --> [Q] Linux and IBM RS6000 ?? (Dave Brown)
Booting QNX with Linux LILO (Jeff Pierce)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (William Firkser)
Re: Dim Display (Stuart R. Fuller)
Re: 3DFX in linux HELP !! (Glen Scurr)
Re: MySQL / PostgreSQL / MS SQL Server ("Ralph Allan Rice")
Re: Booting QNX with Linux LILO (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Re: router? (Jayan M)
Screen resolution (Henry Luk)
win98 + Linux + FreeBSD? (Henry Luk)
Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent? (Leslie Mikesell)
Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop? (Eduard Bloch)
usr modem & s3 video card configuration ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Roux)
Subject: Re: Gnome vs KDE
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 06:48:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like Gnome, but my Linux PC is an old P90 and it is just to damn
slow. KDE works wonderfull.
Nick
On Wed, 15 Sep 1999 01:41:44 +1000, Sim Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi,
> I feel like Gnome is fancier than KDE but it seems slower
>compare to KDE ?? I'm installing from RH6 and enable both
>WindowManager as to do some comparison.
>Best Regards,
>Sim Grant (a.k.a Gummybear)
>
>"Fear Is The Power Of the Dark Side
> Fear Is To Anger, Anger Is To Hate, Hate Is To Suffering !!" by Dark Lord - Star Wars
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From: Thomas M. Sasala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Q: Default directory for shell
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:52:37 GMT
The other day my window manager decided to
lock up and had to be killed. After restarting the
session, all my shells opened to the /usr/bin directory.
instead of $HOME.
Does anyone know where bash stores its default
directory and/or how to fix this problem? Many
thanks!
-Tom
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From: "slOOp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "bash: id:command not found"
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:19:59 -0400
Check your login script to make sure syntax is correct, if this is coming up
as the user is logging on.
-j
cherry liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi,
> a new user had been login linux pc,but this system report as the
> following:
> bash: id:command not found
> bash: id:commnad not found
> [:too many arguments
> bash: id: command not found
>
> what are these meaning.
>
> regards
>
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From: Alex Flinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fetchmail and postfix
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:06:32 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This is most likely a configuration problem, I have tried to read all of
the man pages faqs (could not find a postfix howto).
I have a script that uses fetchmail to download all of my mail from
assorted pop3 servers 'round the net and load them to my local machine.
It seems to work, but the mail never seems to get delivered to the
correct user's local mailbox. I have found it residing in postfix's
deferred queues, but can't seem to get them out to the local mailboxes.
Any ideas on what the problem might be.
The system is Mandrake 6.0 complete install (all packages) updated with
kernel 2.2.9
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: gnome-error **
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:55:19 GMT
hi,
i have install gnome-1.0/enlightenment...
well, when i try run any aplication for gnome that I installed, (emma,
for sample), i receive this msg.:
"Gnome-ERROR **: Could not create per-user Gnome directory
</root/.gnome> - aborting."
obs.: the instalation of applications is ok ...i think :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: crontab won't work
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:10:02 GMT
Henry Vermeulen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Hi all
: I have the following problem
: When i start crontab -u, -e, -l or whatsoever
: i get a message saying
: ' you (user) are not allowed to use this program (crontab)
: See crontab(1) for more information.'
: I did that already but can;t figure out whats wrong.
: I have a /etc/cron.allow with my name in it.
: The deamon is running fine.
: What could be wrong?
Do you have a /etc/cron.deny file? Are you listed in that one?
Stu
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From: Karl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,dc.org.linux-users
Subject: NetWare to Linux?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 15:08:17 GMT
The powers that be where I work are considering dumping NetWare in
favor of Linux. Has anyone out there been through this type of
conversion?
Good idea, bad idea? Hints, tips, stories and any other thoughts
would be appreciated.
Thanks-
kb.
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From: Igor Sobrado Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 13:51:06 GMT
In alt.solaris.x86 Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <7rp0e2$2bd3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Leslie Mikesell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Normal unix programs let you also combine one single char
>>option that takes an argument by putting it at the end
>>of the boolean list. Programs that don't are surprising.
>>Sysadmins don't like surprises.
[...]
>>Being able to omit the - for the options or use multiple arguments
>>stacked in the order that the option letters appear delves into
>>pre-history.
[...]
> Since I started the cdrecord and libscg project, star developement
> slowed down to a value close to 0. If there were people who helped me,
> this could probably change.
Huh, huh... I read last answers to the initial question and I was not
waiting these chain reaction... these newsgroups are really dangerous!
First of all, I want to say that I love standards and an unified syntax
for all the commands and utilities of an operating system (Unix or
another OS). New tars will not be necessary if all tar implementations
follow some standards like ustar (POSIX 1003.1). When I collaborated with
Fran�ois Pinard I wanted to do a better GNU tar implementation for all
Unix-like operating systems.
I cannot understand why Fran�ois Pinard listen to me when Joerg Schilling
is really more important than me on computer sciences. I do not work with
the Technical University of Berlin or Fokus (a great company on ATM
research). I am sorry to read that Mr. Pinard ignored you when you
sent this information _before me_.
Now, Unix programs can use some library functions like getopt() that make
easy to develop syntax-compatible utilities. I think it is useful, mainly
for end-users, and I decided to use it a lot of time ago.
About star I want to say it is a _great_ tar implementation. It works
really fine and we have it installed on our workstations for a lot of
time. But it have a problem... a really hard syntax and we prefer to
use tar (on Solaris or HP-UX) or GNU tar (on our Linux boxes). We have
star to untar some tar archives that cannot be untarred with other tar
releases but our end-users do not want to learn a new tar syntax and I
can understand it.
We are working too with cdrecord, it is a great product too and Joerg
Schilling is one of the best programmers I know as I said some time
ago on alt.solaris.x86.
Finally, I think star is a great program, but we think that users
will not migrate to it quickly because its syntax is really different.
I think that star has a lot of advantages over GNU tar, but syntax is
not one of this.
BTW: Leslie, now Linux ps implementation is avoiding the - on the
options. I think as you it is an error (I understand you want to say
it) and a better syntax is not a simplified syntax. I think that
the - must not be omited.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: --> [Q] Linux and IBM RS6000 ??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 16 Sep 99 15:12:13 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Josep Lluis Guallar Esteve wrote:
>Hello there,
>
>We have some aeging IBM RS6000 and they had been running AIX. Now they
>have their well deserved retirement but...
>
>...can I install Linux on those machines? They can be great for
>developing and intranet-web servers.
>
It's not clear why you'd want to dump AIX in favor of Linux. Linux
has been ported to PowerPC, and if your "aging RS6000s" are based on
PowerPC, there's a possibility there.
However, you can get AIX versions of much of the software that runs
on Linux at ftp://aixpdslibs.seas.ucla.edu, either source or binaries.
So why would you want to give up SMIT and LVM?
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:48:26 -0400
From: Jeff Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Booting QNX with Linux LILO
I am trying to get my system to boot from Linux/DOS/QNX.
On my first hard drive, /dev/hda, I have:
/dev/hda1 DOS
/dev/hda2 Linux swap
/dev/hda3 Linux native
So I edit /etc/lilo.conf for this and I can boot either Linux or DOS. It
works, no problem.
I add a second disk, /dev/hdb that is all QNX on /dev/hdb1
I add the following entry into lilo.conf
# QNX Bootable on /dev/hdb1
other = /dev/hdb1
label = qnx
table = /dev/hdb
# QNX bootable partition config ends
However, when I run lilo I get the following error after it reports
adding linux and DOS:
Device 0x340: Invalid partition table, 1st entry
3d address: 0/0/0 (-1)
linear address: 1/0/0/0
The QNX disk is one I have been using as standalone so I know it is good
and bootable.
Any answers????
--
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From: William Firkser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:57:35 -0400
David,
You might want to look into more ram. Linux needs at least 32mb to run
at a reasonable speed - 64mb would make a big difference.
David Rabanus wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I wonder which window manager might be the fastest on a Compaq Laptop
> (Presario 1215, 24MB RAM, 180 MHz). I have installed RedHat 6.0 (Kernel
> 2.2.5-15smp) and it automatically installed the window manager
> "enlightenment" and "gnome" (although I don't understand what tasks each of
> those exactly fulfill). Anyway: I turns out that this system is VERY slow.
> Even slower than Windows 95. But that - of course - wasn't the reason to
> switch over to linux. When I try to change the window manager in the "GNOME
> Control Center" it doesn't seem to remember that when I "startx" the next
> time. But it doesn't offer me the option to save that new configuration.
>
> Now: Probably that also depends on the distribution I have.
> What is the recommendation for the slimmest/fastest linux
> version/distribution/window manager that should be used?
> Which window manager does NOT use a thousand bitmaps to display its window
> corners and radio buttons and so on?
>
> In my experience the trend goes to still fancier desktops with a thousand
> different gimmicks and gizmos constantly sucking memory and cpu time and
> that sucks (literally :-). I just want to know how to SWITCH them off. I
> hope that this doesn't impair the good reputation of linux being an
> efficient system.
>
> Thanks in advance - Dave.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart R. Fuller)
Subject: Re: Dim Display
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:10:02 GMT
Cliff McCullough ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: My display is very dim almost washed out. My display was not listed in the
: list and I used a model one that I thought was close to my monitor. Is
: there something I can check.
How about checking the brand name and model number of the display (monitor?),
and the brand name and the model number of what you used, and then posting
them here.
Cripe man, if you want help, at least post some details other than "it doesn't
work".
Stu
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From: Glen Scurr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3DFX in linux HELP !!
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:35:22 GMT
u wrote:
>
> Hi there !
>
> I'd like to configure my Diamond Monster 3DFX in linux , but there
> are little documentation around and is confusing , should I have to use
> Mesa ? Should I have to use a special drivers in 3DFX web site ? is
> there any kernel implementation for 3DFX so I have to recompile my
> kernel ?
There's a 3dfx-HOWTO.
http://www.linuxdoc.org
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From: "Ralph Allan Rice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MySQL / PostgreSQL / MS SQL Server
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:22:07 -0400
Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:ZGBD3.1299$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Potentially.
>
>PostgreSQL *does* have the ability to do logging; I'm not sure why you
>think it doesn't.
There is no documentation on it. I looked on the PostgreSQL site, but there
is no indication of transaction logging.
Ralph.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cameron L. Spitzer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.qnx,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: Booting QNX with Linux LILO
Date: 16 Sep 1999 15:41:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeff Pierce wrote:
>I add a second disk, /dev/hdb that is all QNX on /dev/hdb1
>
>I add the following entry into lilo.conf
>
># QNX Bootable on /dev/hdb1
>other = /dev/hdb1
> label = qnx
> table = /dev/hdb
># QNX bootable partition config ends
>
>However, when I run lilo I get the following error after it reports
>adding linux and DOS:
>
>Device 0x340: Invalid partition table, 1st entry
> 3d address: 0/0/0 (-1)
> linear address: 1/0/0/0
>
>The QNX disk is one I have been using as standalone so I know it is good
>and bootable.
>
>Any answers????
Just more questions. What does fdisk -l say? Does its geometry match
what BIOS reports about the drive?
Is there a "BIOS overlay" (such as OnTrack Disk Manager) on the drive?
Does /dev/hdb1 end in the first 1023 cylinders?
Cameron
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From: Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: router?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:24:08 GMT
just a blind shot!
Is this on a laptop? If so, do you have PCMCIA
drivers loaded (assuming pcmcia network card)
That "Delaying eth1 initialization." somehow gave me
this weird thought. I had such a problem with a thinkpad
once.
Jayan
charlie wrote:
>
> hello;
> I have install RedHat 6.0 and working alright.And in order to make it a
> router,
> I plug in one more network card (ne2000) and re-compile the kernel with
> some
> router options.After all, it can boot up but the second network card
> seen not working
> at all.
>
> During boot up,found some messages below:
> Sep 12 20:46:32 ryo ifup: Delaying eth1 initialization.
> Sep 12 20:46:32 ryo network: Bringing up interface eth1 failed
>
> And after configurate the network card, some message on
> /var/log/netconf.log:
> netconf --update: Sun Sep 12 18:46:32 1999 Activating changes
> Checking base configuration
> Checking kernel's modules
> Mounting local volumes
> Checking files permissions
> Checking LILO
> Executing some Sysv init scripts
> Executing: /etc/rc.d/rc3.d/S10network reload
> > Bringing up device eth1
> > Delaying eth1 initialization.
> > ^[[300C^[[20D[^[[1;31mFAILED^[[0;39m]
>
> The network card is config as below:
> irq = 3
> i/o address 0x300
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From: Henry Luk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Screen resolution
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:12:19 GMT
During installation, I have set my screen resolution to 1024x768. How can
I change it to 800x600 in RH Linux 6.0?
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From: Henry Luk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: win98 + Linux + FreeBSD?
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:10:12 GMT
I have 2 HD: 5.1GB and 13.1GB. I have installed win98 for the 1st HD.
The first HD is only for win98. Then I made 3.5GB partition in the 2nd
HD, and installed Linux with no problems. Now, I want to install FreeBSD
on the 2nd HD after Linux partition. What should I do? Do I have to
change some files in Linux? How can I make the partition?
I couldn't found any FreeBSD newsgroup so I just post this question. I
just want to ask if any people experienced in installing win95/98 + Linux
+ FreeBSD? Thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: Are tar tapes OS dependent?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 11:05:12 -0500
In article <7rqska$e6c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Igor Sobrado Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>BTW: Leslie, now Linux ps implementation is avoiding the - on the
>options. I think as you it is an error (I understand you want to say
>it) and a better syntax is not a simplified syntax. I think that
>the - must not be omited.
Agreed. I still type the - on ps options to Linux and just
ignore the silly complaint it makes about not needing it.
Otherwise my fingers will forget it on the machines where it
is needed.
Les Mikesell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eduard Bloch)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: The fastest Window Manager for a slow Laptop?
Date: 16 Sep 1999 12:34:39 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am 16 Sep 1999 00:20:09 GMT schrieb/wrote/a �crit
Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc:
>Well, I did the same as you, and didn't enjoy Gnome's speed on my P200.
>So, I used KDE whenever I started, and it seemed a little cooler; ran
>faster, etc. Well, I eventually totally screwed my system (as every good
LOL. I think, you are kidding. KDE ist the last thing I would install on
a system with less than 64meg RAM. The most of Qt-stuff and KDE seem to
need more and more memory in the newer versions.
On the other hand, GNOME is modular. You can use a small&fast windowmanager
like icewm or windowmaker with this and disable/uninstall some parts if
you don't use them and want to use the memory otherwise (ie. gmc).
>INSTALL Gnome/E/whatever. Just KDE.
ROTFL. Did you ever tried to run KDE on a 16MB-System - it has to swap
for almost half hour before showing anything:)
mfG
Eduard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: usr modem & s3 video card configuration
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:00:32 GMT
Hi,
I've got a USR PCI 56K pnp modem (not winmodem) which is not
automatically detected by linux (I'm using a mandrake distribution).
Under Win it is connected on the com4, adr 0x2e8, irq 10. I runned
setserial to configure it like that, but when I try minicom the modem
is always detected online and I cannot type any AT commands. It is the
same under kppp or other dialers. I don't have any communication's
program resident. I tried isapnpdump and got one file '.conf' but I
don't know where to put it, and don't even know if it's usefull in my
case. Do I really need to change my modem in order to have a phone
connexion under linux ? :/
Another problem : I'm using an S3 3d video card which is not detected
by XFsetup, but the only resolution I can get is 640x480x16. I try to
use the frame buffer with the kernel 2.2.5 but I cannot get better than
800*600*16. Is there any solution for that ?
Thank you for all your suggestions.
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