Linux-Misc Digest #841, Volume #20 Tue, 29 Jun 99 03:13:11 EDT
Contents:
EGCS and glibc2.1 in RedHat 4.2 (Fung Wai Keung)
Auto responding procmail (Ben Short)
Kill SuSE Fvwm95Buttons? (Bev)
Re: can't run executable (Chris)
SuSE X11 problems ("Tony Field")
Re: AHA 2940UW (Frank Sweetser)
Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (Glitch)
Re: Voodoo Banshee SuSE 6.0 (the hork)
Re: Automated benchmarking? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux? (Jenni G)
Re: Hauppauge WinTV-Theater works? ("Andy")
Filesystem for SCO OSR and RedHat Linux
password forgot (YS LOW)
Re: Mounting a SCO OpenServer 5.0.2 Filesystem in Linux? ("Binesh Bannerjee")
Re: Samba & Win 9x clients: automatically mapping drives (Gord Mc.Pherson)
Procmail autoreply (Tim Moss)
Re: Auto responding procmail (Tim Moss)
Re: NT the best web platform? (Larry)
Re: ISPS
Re: Linux vs. Unix (Stan Barr)
Re: Documentation issues. (Richard Kettlewell)
about firewall (Patrick)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fung Wai Keung)
Subject: EGCS and glibc2.1 in RedHat 4.2
Date: 29 Jun 1999 05:10:50 GMT
[ Article crossposted from comp.os.linux.development.apps ]
[ Author was Fung Wai Keung ]
[ Posted on 29 Jun 1999 05:10:21 GMT ]
Hi,
I have a RedHat 4.2. I'm going to install egcs 1.1.2 and glibc2.1
(may be glibc2) in my system as an alternative c++ compiler and standard
C/C++ library for testing, so that I can use my old libc5 and gcc 2.7.2.3
together with the new egcs and glibc2.1. Is it possible to do this or I
have to upgrade to Redhat 6.0 for egcs and glibc2.1?
Thanks in advance.
--
Regards,
Wai Keung, Fung
Department of Mechanical and Automation Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
Shatin, N.T.,
Hong Kong.
Tel: (852)26098056 Fax: (852)26036002
--
Regards,
Wai Keung, Fung
Department of Mechanical and Automation Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
Shatin, N.T.,
Hong Kong.
Tel: (852)26098056 Fax: (852)26036002
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Short)
Subject: Auto responding procmail
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 13:57:48 +1000
Hi,
I was wondering how to set up procmail to auto-respond to all incoming
mail to a specified address, using the .procrc file?
Unfortunately, trying to read what documentation I had was like a hole in
the head, and I usually get more sensible answers from the newsgroup
anyway *g*
Cheers
Ben
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From: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kill SuSE Fvwm95Buttons?
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 21:34:48 -0700
Reply-To: Bev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Everything was fine in Slackware 3.4. Fvwm95rc worked fine, buttons did
what they were supposed to, and X exited neatly when we executed either
control-alt-backspace or clicked the proper menu item.
Moved the fvwm95rc over to the new SuSE 6.1 installation and now when
leaving X either by the C-A-B or from the menu, the prompt doesn't
appear until (forgive me, I can't remember which it is) I hit either a
carriage return or control-C and -- the truly miserable part -- the
FvwmButtons module refuses to die and absorbs all resources available
until kill-9'd manually (Netscape Syndrome). If I use their original
fvwm95rc with no changes, X exits cleanly. If I edit their fvwm95rc
(GOD how I hate typing that!) to remove just one single button and make
no other changes, the button module hangs.
Checked deja, of course. No luck. There's LOTS I want to get rid of in
the standard fvwm95 desktop (all I really want to run in X is xterm and
netscape, so all I need is a SMALL button for each of those plus a kill
button -- the popups can live because I don't have to see them), but
doing any sort of editing on the rc file damages SOMETHING irreparably.
And the really bad news is that a similar installation works fine on a
different (but similar) machine.
Did I forget to install something? (Hard to believe, since SuSE seems to
disregard the user's wishes and install whatever it wants -- no other
explanation for the rejected Applixware and KDE appearing anyway) Did I
configure something else improperly which affects the fvwmbuttons? Any
other ideas?
--
Cheers,
Bev
===================================================
Salesmen welcome -- dog food is expensive
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: can't run executable
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:04:44 GMT
On 27 Jun 1999 09:02:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning) wrote
in comp.os.linux.development.apps:
> Okay, suppose the shell searches other names in the path
>before `.'. In that case, the hypothetical hacker can put
>a malevolent 'ls' somewhere in the path, say /etc/sbin,
The regular commands are hard to replace because the secured directories
are usually at the front of the path. The risk in including ./ in the
path is that there are very common typographical errors, and a good hacker
will sprinkle his malevolence throughout the less secure directories
(/tmp) in hopes that the target user makes one of the common spelling
errors. "/tmp/l" or "/tmp/sl" would be good examples for catching a bad
"ls".
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From: "Tony Field" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE X11 problems
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:31:01 -0600
On SuSE Linux 6.1:
When X11 starts for the first time after cold boot, the screen remains
restarted, the windows session works properly. I cannot see a reason for
this. SuSE cannot explain the problem.
Also, after the X-session is terminated, the console screen is in inverse
video. I cannot reset it back to normal white letters on black background, I
recollect that 'stty sane' should solve the problem but this does not seem
to work.
Any suggestions,
tony
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: AHA 2940UW
Date: 29 Jun 1999 00:38:37 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kurt Hindenburg) writes:
> I'm using RH6.0 with latest kernel (2.2.10). I have an AHA2940UW.
> Everything works fine in Linux; however on start-up I get the
> following error/notice. I was curious as to why RH/Linux would like
> the 2940 NOT to be auto-terminated. Again, I have no problems with
> the card whatsoever.
>
> (scsi0) <Adaptec AHA-294X Ultra SCSI host adapter> found at PCI 20/0
> (scsi0) Wide Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 SCBs
> (scsi0) Warning - detected auto-termination
> (scsi0) Please verify driver detected settings are correct.
> (scsi0) If not, then please properly set the device termination
> (scsi0) in the Adaptec SCSI BIOS by hitting CTRL-A when prompted
> (scsi0) during machine bootup.
basically, it's warning you that auto-termination doesn't always get it
right, and to double check yourself. if you're not having any problems, i
wouldn't worry about it.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.5 i586 | at public servers
It's getting harder and harder to think out loud. One of these days
someone's gonna go off and kill Thomas a'Becket for me...
-- Larry Wall in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:56:16 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
> > >> >
> > >> > Actually, IBM hired Billy Gates to build them DOS, so actually, IBM
> > >> thought
> > >> > the PC had a future as well. And furthermore Windowz was copied from
but Gates is the one who requested a licensing fee for each copy of DOS
IBM used.
> > >> Mac so
> > >> > don't give Gates too much credit. If Macs didn't have a GUI who knows
> > >> what
> > >> > we would have today...
> > >> >
>
--
"Bill Gates?, I dont know any Bill Gates. Oh, you mean 'by putting
every conceivable
feature into an OPERATING SYSTEM, whether you want it or not, is
innovation' Bill
Gates? Yeah, I know the monopolizer"
http://web.mountain.net/~brandon/main.htm
For Beginners in Linux, Emulation, Midis, Playstation Info, and
Virii.
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From: the hork <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
at.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.x,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers,fido.ger.linux,maus.computer.linux
Subject: Re: Voodoo Banshee SuSE 6.0
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 23:16:05 +0200
Frederik Meerwaldt wrote:
[cut]
> failed dependencies:
> libNoVersion.so.1 is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0) is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
> libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1) is needed by Glide_V3-2.60-6
> XFree86-VGA16 is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-5
> libtel.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-5
> libtk.so is needed by XFree86_3DFX-XF86Setup-3.3.3-5
>
> What shall I do???
> Please help. U R G E N T. Pleaaassseeee...
> Thanks in advance,
> Freddy
seems you got a driver for a glibc2 system you don't have.
try to get a driver matching your system. The other way is to upgrade
your system to a glibc2 built system.
regards
HORK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Automated benchmarking?
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 05:34:26 GMT
Seth Van Oort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip<
: It would be one of the most interesting things I've seen in a while. Who
: wants to do it? :-)
I'm thinking I might, actually. Not just out of my own curiosity to
see what the results might actually be, but also for the experience
and comparison of setting up such a system. I know how to make
FreeBSD update and rebuild itself automatically and periodically,
but I'm not familiar with doing that for NT, Linux, Solaris, etc or
even if those systems can do it at all, at least out of the box the
way FreeBSD (*BSD?) pretty much can.
Benchmarks are only one kind of "performance". I don't care how
fast a sports car someone can make, if it doesn't have a cup holder
that can safely handle a large cup of joe it isn't worth beans. :-)
The results would of course be, "how fast can you go", but I'd of
course offer my own "how good was the cup holder made" notes when
talking about how easy the system was or wasn't to set up.
--
-Zenin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) "Hey, are you one of those Linux coders?"
"Nyet. Linux coder in next office."
"Good man. Ignore the screams."
--www.userfriendly.org
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jenni G)
Subject: Re: ECC on SDRAMS - is it beneficial w/Linux?
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:12:09 GMT
Stu, Mike: Thanks!
After much thought 28 Jun 1999 11:03:52 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M
Sweger) offered:
>Stuart R. Fuller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: Jenni G ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: : Good input from each of you -- thanks for the replies.
>: :
>: : Here's the question in another form: Is there a mechanism already
>: : provided by Linux that will detect and/or correct memory errors such
>: : that the ECC feature is not really beneficial?
>
>: No.
>
>: There is parity memory, where an extra bit of data is stored with each byte.
>: The value of this extra bit is generated by hardware so that the entire 9 bits
>: contains an odd or even number of 1s. Odd or even doesn't matter, as long as
>: the parts of the system all agree on one or the other. Parity memory will
>: only help you if on a memory read, an odd number of bits are in error, and
>: even then, you don't know which bit it was.
>
>: Stu
>
>The OS doesn't have anything to do with parity or ECC. This is all done by
>the hardware transparent to the OS and the user and is done on the fly.
>That is, as the data is being read, it is corrected. If there should be
>multiple errors, the OS will either crash, or if it is smart enough,
>gracefully degrade and work around this memory block.
>There are two ways that I can think of to do this.
> a). on bootup, it does a memory check and if a failure occurs, the
> bootloader tells the OS which memory blocks are bad. Similar to
> working around bad hard disk data blocks going bad.
> b). If memory should fail after the OS has been running for a while,
> you will get a bad page load error (via interrupt?) that tells
> the OS after so many tries to find another memory block to work with.
> The parity/ECC hardware could also generate an interrupt to
> tell the OS about bad memory. But this may be to slow.
>
>There are probably other ways one can think of as to how the OS
>can do graceful degradation.
>
> It would be a nice feature for Linux to do graceful degradation, but I
>doubt if the OS can handle it.
>
>--
> Mike,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Hauppauge WinTV-Theater works?
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 00:06:27 -0400
oh yeah, me again. forgot one thing: does the radio work?
Thanks,
Andy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS: oh yeah, another thing. yes I am using outlook express
on a linux newsgruop..... ^_^
Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm looking to get a tv tuner to replace my gimpy tv. I've been looking
and
> found that the Hauppauge cards work. However I read that some are not
fully
> functional yet (something to do with the 879's i2c or such). Just
> wondering if the WinTv Theater model works fine under linux (including
> remote). That remote would be handy :). also on a more general nature,
> how well does full screen mode work either in XFree86 or in framebuffer
mode
> when it's in high resolution (much higher than NTSC).
>
>
> Thanks,
> Andy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Filesystem for SCO OSR and RedHat Linux
Date: 28 Jun 1999 17:19:44 GMT
Apologies if this comes out as a second posting, problems on our server
appear to have 'eaten" the first.
Anyone know of a filesystem supported by SCO OSR and RedHat which
supports 255 char file names and symbolic links?
I am migrating from SCO OSR 5.0.5 to RedHat 6.0. I would like to put
all my user files are on a separate partition (NOT using SCO's divisions)
using a file system which can be read/write by either SCO or RedHat and
which supports 255 char filenames and symbolic links. To the best of my
knowledge, SCO's version of the UNIX SysV file system does not support
symbolic links. Its EAFS (Extended Acer file system) does but I am
not aware of it being fully supported by RedHat (I did see a reference to
a project to create support for EAFS in Linux but what I read indicated there
was only read-only support).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (YS LOW)
Subject: password forgot
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 17:38:31 GMT
Dear All
I forgot my linux root password , how do retrieve it?
Regards
>From Yong
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From: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting a SCO OpenServer 5.0.2 Filesystem in Linux?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.sco,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.sco.programmer
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 1999 18:15:43 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Bartek Golenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Thats because Linux 2.0.x could not recognize SCO division table on a
: partition - you could always mount SCO floppies. There is an option in 2.2.x
: that will probably allow you to do this.
What option is that? (Upon further investigation I found this in the docs
>From Documentation/filesystems/sysv-fs.txt as of linux-2.2.9
> Bugs in the present implementation:
> - Coherent FS:
> - The "free list interleave" n:m is currently ignored.
> - Only file systems with no filesystem name and no pack name are
> recognized.
> (See Coherent "man mkfs" for a description of these features.)
> - SystemV Release 2 FS:
> The superblock is only searched in the blocks 9, 15, 18, which
> corresponds to the beginning of track 1 on floppy disks. No
> support for this FS on hard disk yet.
So, it looks as tho the SysV FS doesn't support hard drives still...
What option are you talking about?
Binesh
: --
: Bartek Golenko
: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Gord Mc.Pherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Samba & Win 9x clients: automatically mapping drives
Date: 28 Jun 1999 19:31:04 GMT
Lee Allen wrote:
> Under Samba, I (think) I have to "map a network drive" on the Win 9x
> client via point & click. If the client ever boots when the server is
> down (or not available), then the client will display a prompt, "Do
> you want to reconnect the next time you log in?" If the user says
> "No", the mapping is gone, and must be recreated manually.
>
> How can we avoid this problem? Is there some script capability in Win
> 9x that remap the drives for us?
If I understand this problem, you might want to check out NET.EXE located
in the Windows root directory. I use Samba to execute a batchfile that maps
all networked drives on each windows95 machine. Hope this helps some.
Gord Mc.Pherson
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From: Tim Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Procmail autoreply
Date: 28 Jun 1999 23:17:34 PDT
I have set up an "autoresponder" with procmail using a .procmailrc like
the following:
----start----
:0c:
* !^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| (formail -r \
-A"X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ; \
echo "This is an automated reply:"; \
echo ""; \
echo "I will be out of the office from Thursday,"; \
echo "June 24, through Tuesday, July 6."; \
echo ""; \
echo "Geoff"; \
echo "-- " \
) | $SENDMAIL -oi -t
----stop----
My question is, how can I modify the copy that goes to the Inbox as well
as the one that goes to the sender? Basically, I want to add a line to
the top of messages that are processed by procmail to denote as much
(eg. - ** The sender of this message was sent an autoresponce **) so I
can differentiate them and also make sure it's not inadvertantly running
when I don't want it to be. Is this possible? If so, how?
Thanks.
--
Tim
(remove "nospam" from reply address)
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From: Tim Moss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Auto responding procmail
Date: 28 Jun 1999 23:22:56 PDT
Using the user geoff@acmecorp as an example
create a .procmailrc file in the user directory similar to the following (the
echo lines should reflect your message)
:0c:
* !^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| (formail -r \
-A"X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]" ; \
echo "This is an automated reply:"; \
echo ""; \
echo "I will be out of the office from Thursday,"; \
echo "June 24, through Tuesday, July 6."; \
echo ""; \
echo "Geoff"; \
echo "-- " \
) | $SENDMAIL -oi -t
and a .forward file like the following:
"|IFS=' '&&exec /usr/bin/procmail -f-||exit 75 geoff"
Ben Short wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering how to set up procmail to auto-respond to all incoming
> mail to a specified address, using the .procrc file?
>
> Unfortunately, trying to read what documentation I had was like a hole in
> the head, and I usually get more sensible answers from the newsgroup
> anyway *g*
>
> Cheers
> Ben
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Jun 1999 15:29:13 -0600
On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 21:10:04 -0700, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jason Haar wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, 27 Jun 1999 18:59:18 -0700, Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > But still. Speed is not everything for a server. I 'd choose stability
>> > over speed anytime.
>>
>> PEOPLE!, PEOPLE!!!
>>
>> The primary (only?) reason IIS outperforms Apache is that IIS agressively
>> caches accessed pages in RAM. It has been written to do this (i.e. apache
>> running of a ramdisk will still not approach this as it still has to do all
>> those fs calls). If you test against an IIS server using "ab", you'll note
>> the slowest hit to be WAY slower than the slowest Apache hit - that is
>> probably a better indicator of performance :-)
>>
>> We've found IIS to be too unstable and basically sh*tty to bother with (ever
>> tried to get it to acknowlegde you've edited a page - try restarting the
>> SERVER...) - Apache on Unix and NT is used here...
>>
>NT IIS should "out perform" Linux/Apache, considering that how many
>millions of dollars have been spent on it.
>
>But pure speed is not the important issue. Sure, the Formula One race
>car is super fast and everything... But can you drive a F-1 car
>everyday in commute without it breaking down every day, or every
>couple hours? ;-)
>
>All is not lost for the Linux community here. As a long time user of
>M$ products - since DOS, I am switching over to Linux and FreeBSD.
>The tests are NOT going to change my mind.
>
>Tired of rebooting/reinstalling Windblown on a daily/monthly basis.
I've been using Linux now going on 4 years and went over to my brothers
house yesterday to help him config his sound card to work in a dos session
(or whatever you call it in windows) under windows. In the space of 1 hour
we had to reboot his machine 7 times and never could get the card to work.
It works for winblows specific programs but if we tried to run a dos program
under windows we couldn't use the sound features. All the reboots were due
to lockups. We set program to have the same A,I and D as the Windows setup
had but all we would get from the speakers was a click and a lockup.
Lockup, lockup, lockup, crash, crash, crash, reboot, reboot, reboot.
I've been telling him about Linux for a long time now but he's like most
winblows users, he's afraid to change. I guess he thinks B.G. will send a
hit squad after him or something.
I personally have never used win except at work and can see no real need for
it except now they are writing win specific games and if you want to play
them you have to have windows. I have been considering installing a basic
setup (if you can get such a thing in winblows) on a seperate drive just to
play games on. I hate the thought of it but until the Linux community starts
getting ports of these games to our OS, we are going to be stuck with doing
work on Linux and playing games on winders.
Yeah I know about Quake and doom but these are old and I have already played
them to death.
TO SOFTWARE WRITERS::
You write 'em.. We'll buy 'em.
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Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 1999 02:50:56 -0400
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ISPS
Most of the good ISPs use some form of unix for their
servers and I would assume their sys-admins use something
similar for their home machines. The best source of info
would be the ISP mailing list. Send email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'subscribe' in the
body (or subject - I forgot which). However the list is
intended for administrators to discuss running an ISP.
They want those asking questions about Internet providers
to use the newsgroup alt.internet.services. So if you
can frame your question to be as specific and technical
as possible it's the best source of info around, but if
you ask a simple general question you'll get flamed.
Greg
> We really need a free, flat rate isp that supports linux, world wide
> Darren Paxton skrev i meldingen <7l7mgq$eg8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >I am just posting this message to gauge some feedback from the Linux
> >community in the world.
> >
> >Since Microsoft has the dominating share in the market of computing (I
> >do not think anyone would doubt this statement), every ISP in the world
> >is generally based on Microsoft. As we all know, this is a very
> >annoying factor for those of us who wish to connect through our Linux
> >boxes. The only way that we do connect is by hacking the dns servers
> >and trying to find out from technical support what authentications are
> >used, etc.
> >
> >What I would like to ask you all, if any of your ISPs (and where they
> >are based), FULLY support Linux. Personally, I have used Freeserve
> >(don't ask). Softnet (not bad), and In2Home (also, not bad). Now, I am
> >using a dialup script to my old university (the only script for
> >connecting that has actually worked for me).
> >
> >Obviously, with the popularity of, and curiosity about Linux increasing
> >all the time, does anyone feel, like I do, that its about time the ISPs
> >start supporting Linux?
> >
> >Like I have stated before, I have had major problems connecting to the
> >UK service Freeserve through Linux, and through the newsgroups, I
> >tracked down about 10 different methods to connect. I do not know if I
> >had maybe done something wrong with the scripting or whatever, but I
> >just gave up. My idea is, wouldn't it be better if, when you want to
> >connect to the ISP, they give you a CD, or even a disk, that contains
> >the relevant scripting, or even a tar archive or an rpm with a dialer
> >script.
> >
> >If there were some SUPPORTED way of connecting, then it would make it
> >easier for some of the less "tooled-up" scripters among us.
> >
> >Any comments would be greatly received.
> >
> >Also, if there are any ISP admins reading this, then please, guys, help
> >us out here.
> >
> >Thanx
> >
> >--
> >Darren Paxton
> >
> >Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> >Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stan Barr)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: 29 Jun 1999 06:07:38 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 28 Jun 1999 12:10:56 -0400, Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How much different is Linux than Unix? Are the system commands basically
>the same? What are the major differences between the two? Please help
>clarify this for me. Thank you in advance.
They're sufficiently similar for me to set up and learn to run Linux
(Slackware 2.something) using a Unix SVR3 book and the HOW-TOs and man pages.
The differences are mainly in the internal details.
--
Cheers,
Stan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The future was never like this!
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From: Richard Kettlewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Documentation issues.
Date: 28 Jun 1999 20:49:17 +0100
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have one very simple litmus test for an acceptable document
> formatting language; it has to recognize paragraph boundaries by
> itself without forcing me to type in tags (for the single most
> common type of markup). TeX, TeX-derived languages, and POD all
> pass this test. All SGML-derived languages fail it.
I find the paragraph tags in SGML-ish things a bit irritating too.
I think the thing that would improve that for me is if Emacs could
recognize the keys `RET RET' in the context where starting a new
paragraph would make sense (i.e. where either <p> or </p><p> would be
allowed in e.g. HTML or Linuxdoc) and do the appropriate thing.
To do that properly I suppose Emacs would have to know which entity in
a given DTD was supposed to represent a paragraph. If my
understanding is correct that's not something that the DTD can really
tell you...?
(Obviously this wouldn't represent a solution for people who don't use
Emacs SGML mode.)
--
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick)
Subject: about firewall
Date: 29 Jun 1999 06:57:38 GMT
An Orielly book (Managing Internet Information Services p.505) said:
"To telnet to external hosts, the user must first telnet to the bastion
host(where tn-gw runs), receive the proxt prompt and type connect remotehostname.
The FTP proxy is similar."
if i built a firewall using TIS FWTK, then can we use the ordinary FTP program(e.g.
WS_FTP) behind the firewall?
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