Linux-Misc Digest #878, Volume #20                Thu, 1 Jul 99 13:13:07 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Newbie: Needs help selecting distribution (William Wueppelmann)
  Re: NT the best web platform? (dawg)
  NFS Problem (Robert Saunders)
  Re: Max file size with EXT2? ("Gene Heskett")
  File Creation Mask ??? ("O. D. Williams")
  Re: Oops. Locked out :( (Chris Aiken)
  Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! (Tom Christiansen)
  'LI' Syndrome fix needed :( (Tarkaan)
  Dell Inspiron compatibility?  What is best laptop? ("David J. Topper")
  Re: swap problems (Adrian Hands)
  Re: Off-line news reader (Frederic L. W. Meunier)
  Re: Corrupted swap partition ?? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: looking for sun tip tool (Villy Kruse)
  Re: Korn SHell basic problems (Eric Amick)
  Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft Retest 
News ("Stuart Fox")
  Re: HELP!! HELP!! /etc moved SOS!! SOS!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: swap problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Oops. Locked out :( ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  RealPlayer G2 for linux (Kareem Dana)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie: Needs help selecting distribution
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:11:13 GMT

In our last episode (Wed, 30 Jun 1999 07:48:24 GMT),
the artist formerly known as Equinox said:
>On 29 Jun 1999 16:19:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>In comp.os.linux.misc Larry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>= SLACKWARE!!!!!!
>>
>>He's a NEWBIE!
>>Do you want to put him off for life?
>
>It didn't put me off for life... my first exposure to Linux was as a
>user on a Slackware box, running kernel 1.2.8.  Naturally, when I
>decided to install Linux on my own machine, I went with Slackware.
>Even after trying other distributions (or *attempting* to try other
>distributions, in the case of Debian), I'm still with Slack.  Why?
>It's simple, it's configurable right down to the finest detail, and
>it's what I'm used to.
>
>This last argument is probably the most compelling.  The fellow can
>start off with whatever he chooses.  If he has several options to
>begin with, he can try them all and pick his favorite.  Otherwise,
>he'll get used to whatever is set before him (as I did), and
>everything else will seem foreign.

Besides which, one major reason for choosing Linux is that control and
power is more attractive than ease of learning.

While the concern for making Linux more accessible to newcomers is (IMHO)
laudible, there's not a whole lot of point to using Linux if it's in a form
that makes it essentially like Windows, only more stable (when MacOS X
arrives, we will apparently have a new/casual user-friendly system built on
a stable BSD core, so the casual user may be better served by that platform
than by Linux, and there's also the BeOS for a similar setup).  A similar
system built around a Linux kernel is possible as well, and certainly
there's nothing wrong with it, but any distribution of Linux that I've seen
is still a hacker-oriented package.

IMHO, most people who really find Slackware too frustrating to use or
install probably won't be overly enamoured with Linux in general.  That's
not to say that they won't prefer some other distribution, only that
Slackware shouldn't be an enormous problem to install for someone with the
kind of mind set that would be needed to appreciate Linux in the first
place.  For the person who is going to install Linux, try it for a few
hours and go back to Windows, complaining that Linux wasn't enough like
Windows, and never really understanding the basic differences between the
two systems, no distribution is going to prevent them from doing this.

I also think that anyone who can manage to get a Windows installation
working can probably manage an equivalent Linux setup.

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From: dawg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT the best web platform?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:41:16 -0600

> Exactly. These newsgroups have MVPs, or Most Valuable Professionals, usually
> people who are in a related business, and they are very knowledgeable and in
> contact with MS engineers if necessary.

they same as they helped me turn off the router when a virus was coming?
what kind of help is that?

or, my all time favorite - "have to rebooted?"

> But most problems are not understanding the proper method or convention, or
> third party problems, rather than actual bugs.

kinda hard when there are no standards.

> These newsgroups support all MS products and show the way MS is able to
> organize things to help consumers.

organize? help? in the same sentence w/ monkeysoft?

the same as they help cripple 12 of our NT servers w/ sp4 and some hot
fixes.

yeah.. "let me help you remove that green stuff from your wallet.  it's
just weighting you down"

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Saunders)
Subject: NFS Problem
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:27:54 GMT

I am having a problem with my nfs after I compiled and installed the
latest kernal. I am running Redhat 6.0 with a linux kernal 2.2.10. 

When I try to start up my nfs I get the following error.. 

[root@tigggger /etc]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/nfs start
Starting NFS services:
[  OK  ]
Starting NFS statd:
[  OK  ]
Starting NFS quotas:
[  OK  ]
Starting NFS mountd:
[  OK  ]
Starting NFS daemon: 
nfssvc: Function not implemented
 [FAILED]

Any suggestions what is wrong with the NFS daemon or what I need to
check on. 

Robert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Date: 01 Jul 99 09:02:41 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Max file size with EXT2?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware

Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Rowan Hughes;

 RH> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron Holt wrote:
>>What is the largest partition size supported by EXT2?
 RH>  Big...terabytes. Depends on your fs block size.

>>What is the largest file support on such a partition?
 RH>  Unfortunately 2Gigs.  2^31 bytes which is unsigned long
 RH>  on a Pentium. Two words could be used giving 2^63 bytes
 RH>  but it means a substantial slowdown doing the cross-multiplies
 RH>  of the mantissas (mantissae ???).

 RH>  I regularly create files over 10GB on workstations, but this
 RH>  obviously isn't on linux with ext2. I remember reading about
 RH>  a Reiser filesystem that used a fat tree as its basis and could
 RH>  create much larger files than 2GB. There was an alpha status
 RH>  module for 2.0.X kernels , but I can't find the web address now.

ISTR seeing a reference to that someplace in the last day or so,
freshmeat, linuxapps?  It looked interesting.

Cheers, Gene
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From: "O. D. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: File Creation Mask ???
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 09:22:58 -0600
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I came to Linux from a Unix/Xenix background.  Over there we had a file
creation mask.  You could set it on a user by user basis.  Can't seem to
find that in Linux.  We have a server running Caldera's package.  The
workstations are all Windows PCs.

When any user creates a file from his Windows PC, the file permission is
set to 700 rather than 777.  Thus, nobody but that one user can access
the new directory until someone goes to the  server, logs in as root,
and changes the perms on that directory/file.

Any suggestions?
-O. D. Williams-

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From: Chris Aiken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Oops. Locked out :(
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:54:22 -0400

On my system (IBM Aptiva) you can configure the bios
"not to boot from floppy" and you can also configure the
bios to "require a password before allowing changes to
be made to the bios".  Once the floppy boot is locked out
and a bios password is set, you can't boot from your linux
(or Windbloz) rescue floppies.  You would have to change
the bios settings back, and that would require the bios password.


...hope this helps
...cwa

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thank you everyone for the replies. The one about 'linux single' did the
> trick. It stuck me right at a bash prompt as root and I was able to
> correct my mistake (/bin/tsch).
>
> Ok, now that I've done that, how do I disable the ability to do that? ;)
> I don't want anyone else to be able to do that, and I won't need to do it
> again, since I'll be much more careful from now on :)
>
> I boot from lilo via a floppy disk.
>
> And yes, chsh is a new friend of mine :)
>
> Thanks!

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From: Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Christiansen)
Date: 1 Jul 1999 09:18:27 -0700

In comp.os.linux.misc, "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:Why, it's simply Linux (pronounced "Vindaloo"), not a Beowulf (pronounced
:"Mutton Vindaloo Beast"...) The question is what is the word that
:is pronounced "lager" and "popadom"...

Why, that would be "apache" and "perl" respectively, of course.

--tom
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From: Tarkaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 'LI' Syndrome fix needed :(
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 14:55:09 -0400

Please help!

I've been working on this issue for a good ten hours now.  I want linux
to boot from the hard drive.  My disk is ST3660A .. My boot floppy
reports the geometry as being CHS=1057/16/63.  If you happen to have a
working lilo.conf for this, please mail it to me or post.  If you know
of another fix, I'd be interested in hearing that too.

Thanks in advance.

-- Jack Tarkaan                                      Kalamazoo, Michigan
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From: "David J. Topper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Dell Inspiron compatibility?  What is best laptop?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:50:27 -0400

Hello all,

I've run Linux on desktop machines since kernel 1.0.x.  I also use it in
our lab.  The time has come, however, to explore laptop issues.  My
employer has a deal with Dell, which offers competative discounts for
laptops.  I must say that the Dell Inspiron line looks pretty good!

I'd love to hear comments / get input from folks.  I've already
contacted the OSS folks about audio support, but have yet to hear.  I'm
of course concerned about support for various components like the 3com
combo 56k + 10/100 that comes with the Dell.  DVD?  PCMCIA?  Video Card?

Email responses preferred.

Thanks very much,

DT
--
David Topper
Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music
Programmer Analyst - School of Arts and Sciences
http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: swap problems
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 09:55:01 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jay Turner wrote:
> 
> Damjan wrote:
> 
> > Hi!
> > I have RH 6.0, K6, 64MB RAM + 120MB swap space. What bothers me is that
> > Linux doesn't notify me when there's not enough swap memory left.
> >
> > For example: I ussualy dial-up and open about 20 Netscape frames with
> > various news previews, reviews, etc and then disconnect. There are a lot of
> > pictures, graphs and similar stuff inside and soon Netscape eats all main
> > memory. Things start to get very slow when Linux has to use swap partition.
> > But I can take this. The problem occurs when free swap memory drops to
> > zero. It happens very often to me. Then Linux runs so slow that I can
> > hardly move a mouse pointer and all I can hear is my hard drive swaping
> > continuously and without control I can only press the magic
> > CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE to exit X11.
> >
> > Does anybody know how to set up some kind of warning or how to improve
> > swapping? I don't like to say this but I think Windows use less swap and
> > more efficiently.
> > Thamks for any info!
> > Damjan
> >
> 
> You can probably tell where this response is going quickly, but I will go
> there anyway.  The best way to prevent what you are describing is to not open
> 20 Netscape windows.  Netscape is a memory hog, and therefore opening that
> many instances of it causes serious memory allocation problems.  As for early
> warning, do not know of an automatic method right off the top of my head, but
> there is probably something, however I would recommend some monitoring device
> (there are a ton of applets that will show memory status included with GNOME
> and KDE) or as a last resort, just run 'top' in  a window and take a look at
> it every few minutes.  My final suggestion to you would be to upgrade your
> RAM.  This will provide more room for Netscape to stretch its legs and you
> should have an easier time looking at everything that you want to.

I'd agree that you probably need to upgrade your RAM.
I just opened 20 Netscape Navigator Windows on my system and it didn't
even swap.
I've got 80 MB RAM.  I don't think that's considered a lot these days.
I've also emacs, enlightenment, gnome, xosview, xterm and top running
under RH6.0.
I think if you have at least 64MB RAM a decent sized swap partition you
shouldn't have a problem.
xosview is really handy to see how much mem & swap you're using at a
glance.

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From: Frederic L. W. Meunier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Off-line news reader
Date: 20 Jun 1999 03:19:02 GMT

Any ideas? It costs way too much to view the news via Deja.com
---
I'm using Lynx but it's not very nice (for news, sure). Use slrn and slrnpull
(to read offline). It's a console based newsreader. If you need a X one, I
have no idea (Knews, Netscape?).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Corrupted swap partition ??
Date: 1 Jul 1999 14:54:59 GMT

Pete Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
= But... what if the swap partition was being written to when the power
= failed?  Could it become corrupted?   During the reboot, there is no
= indication that the validity of the swap area is checked.  Would the
= reboot fix any problems?

The way I understand it, the swap partition doesn't contain any file system.
It's just a raw disk partition which is written to directly by the swap
process... So there shouldn't be any way for it to become corrupted after a
powerfailure, because when everything starts up again, there isn't anything
on it that any process needs, it'll just be overwritten.

= All of this comes from a system that has been acting a bit "funny" ever
= since a hard power failure a few weeks ago.  System is basically running
= OK but some commands/programs are now getting Segmentation Faults at
= random times.  It all started after the power went out.  'fsck' did not
= detect any problems with the other partitions.   Memory tests are not
= detecting any errors.    Trying to figure out where to go from here...

Try performing a kernel compile. That's a good way to check if there's a
hardware fault. It's possible a bit in one of your memory cards might have
blown...

If you get an intermittant segmentation fault during kernel compilation, it
probably means bad memory. 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: looking for sun tip tool
Date: 1 Jul 1999 15:49:29 +0200

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michael Schiffner  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm cuurently looking for sun specific tool called tip.
>It's installed on SUN Solaris but we need it for linux.
>
>Does anybody know how to get this?

Might consider minicom, or good old cu that comes with the uucp
package.


Villy



Name        : minicom                     Distribution: Manhattan 
Version     : 1.81                              Vendor: Red Hat Software
Release     : 4                             Build Date: Mon May 11 01:56:25 1998
Install date: Thu Mar 20 17:43:59 1997   Build Host: porky.redhat.com
Group       : Applications/Communications   Source RPM: minicom-1.81-4.src.rpm
Size        : 274822
Packager    : Red Hat Software <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Summary     : TTY mode communications package ala Telix
Description :
Minicom is a communications program that resembles the MSDOS Telix
somewhat. It has a dialing directory, color, full ANSI and VT100
emulation, an (external) scripting language and more.

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From: Eric Amick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Korn SHell basic problems
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.admin
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 13:51:22 GMT

In comp.unix.shell KrayZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 2) If I press <ESC><=> it shows me any posible completion but if I try
> to select a number it doesn`t understand that I want to complete the
> filename with this option. How can I do it?

By typing the rest of the filename, or at least enough that doing filename
completion again will fill in the rest for you.

> 3) With readonly I can make a readonly variable but, how can I erase
> this atributte??? What command is used to erase it and can modify after
> these variable (or unset it)????

typeset +r variablename.  readonly is effectively equivalent to typeset
-r.

-- 
Eric Amick
Columbia, MD
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (was: Mindcraft 
Retest News
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 17:30:19 +1200


Scott MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:6EGa3.299$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7keqqo$7gk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Jason O'Rourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:7kemol$sr0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Stuart Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > >It isn't MS's problem if someone exploits the tools provided in an
> Office
> > > >app.  However it might be if a product didn't work as advertised -
win
> > 3.1
> > > >on DR-DOS for instance.
> > > >Does this mean that if I wrote a virus in VB that MS would be
> > responsible?
> > >
> > > In my mind, yes.  They created a 'feature' that has brought IS
> departments
> > > using Office to their knees.  This started with the tame but annoying
> word
> > > macro virus and has now gotten quite dangerous.
> > >
> > > >>and the knowledge
> > > >> that anyone could exploit IIS with a single line of code.
> > > >Are you suggesting that *nix has no bugs?  Or requires no patches to
> get
> > > >running securely?  ALL operating systems have bugs that must be
> patched,
> > I
> > > >don't care if it's linux, NT, Solaris etc.  And why has no-one found
> this
> > > >bug until now - IIS 4.0 has been out for quite a while now...
> > >
> > > Unix certainly has had its troubles, especially with sendmail.  But at
> > > this point, most of the issues have been resolved.
> >
> > Excluding of course every new app that is released, or every new
update...
> >
> > Open source code and
> > > 20 years of release time have been helpful.  Meanwhile, Windows and NT
> > > have been used for networking for but a few years and it's pretty
clear
> > > that this is going to continue for quite some time.  MS won't get sued
> > > over it, they'll make a killing selling fixes instead.  Or perhaps
> people
> > > will start to realize the costs and move on.
> >
> > They don't sell fixes - they are free.
> >
> Win 98 was a fix for Win95 don't try to tell me they don't sell them.
>
>
Your opinion only.  Heard of service packs - they are fixes.  And also free.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP!! HELP!! /etc moved SOS!! SOS!!
Date: 1 Jul 1999 15:56:19 GMT

Raghavendra B K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
= Hello,

= I wanted to modify some files
= in /etc. So I moved /etc to
= /etcc and came
= out of su mode. 

Errrrr. Why on EARTH would you want to rename /etc?
Looks like its time for a rescue disk.
[In SuSE]
Boot using your boot floppy, select start rescue session. Insert rescue
disk. 

Mount the partition that contains the etcc directory. Rename it again.

Reboot.
  

Now I can't so
= anything (telnet, ftp, login,
= su, etc). I
= get the following message for
= whatever command I type. 
= /bin/hostname: cann't open
= cache /etc/ld.so.cache

Of course you can't DO anything. Every program on the machine looks at the
/etc directory for configuration info. The network can't connect to anything
because it has no hosts file, the linker can't like shared libraries because
there's no ld-config file, etc....

= My system configuration is
= Linux DLD 5.4 (kernel version
= is 2.0.33).

You DO have a rescue disk, don't you?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: Re: swap problems
Date: 1 Jul 1999 16:00:37 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= I'd agree that you probably need to upgrade your RAM.
= I just opened 20 Netscape Navigator Windows on my system and it didn't
= even swap.
= I've got 80 MB RAM.  I don't think that's considered a lot these days.
= I've also emacs, enlightenment, gnome, xosview, xterm and top running
= under RH6.0.
= I think if you have at least 64MB RAM a decent sized swap partition you
= shouldn't have a problem.
= xosview is really handy to see how much mem & swap you're using at a
= glance.

And if it DOES look like your swap is becoming overfull, you can create a
swap file and add that temporarily to swap to ease things a little.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Oops. Locked out :(
Date: 1 Jul 1999 15:49:08 GMT

Chris Aiken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
= On my system (IBM Aptiva) you can configure the bios
= "not to boot from floppy" and you can also configure the
= bios to "require a password before allowing changes to
= be made to the bios".  Once the floppy boot is locked out
= and a bios password is set, you can't boot from your linux
= (or Windbloz) rescue floppies.  You would have to change
= the bios settings back, and that would require the bios password.

I had that problem with a machine that was given to me by a friend who
rescued it from a skip. All that needed to be done to whipe the password was
simply open up the case and remove the BIOS battery.

WARNING: Some BIOSes may be have settings that are vital completely wiped if
you do this.  Others are more simple with a small amount of battery backed
RAM to just store the user configurable settings that'll be user
configuarble again on switch on.

Know what you're doing before attempting this. It can make your completely
useless. 

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From: Kareem Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RealPlayer G2 for linux
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 17:14:53 GMT

I've heard that Real Player G2 was available for linux, but i have yet=20
to find it. I went to proforma.real.com/mario/player/player.html and=20
clicked Linux ELF as the OS and it says only real player 5.0 is=20
available for your platform. Now my question, however, Is there or is=20
there not a real player G2 for linux?

Thank you





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