Linux-Misc Digest #878, Volume #24               Wed, 21 Jun 00 00:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (MH)
  Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows ("Unclaimed Mysteries")
  Re: PPProblem (Floyd Davidson)
  Re: Is this true ? Compaq iPaq with Linux !: ("JeffMc")
  SERIAL port guru: help (James Linder)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (Justin B Willoughby)
  Re: EMACS RPMs (Wolfgang Fiedler)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (MH)
  sound related question. linux and freebsd. (blowfish)
  Re: LILO SUSE 6.4 (blowfish)
  help with ftp (Andrey Muraviev)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (Tim Hockin)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (MH)
  Re: help with ftp (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (brian moore)
  Re: 6.1 update rpms - where (Ed Hurst)
  Re: 6.1 update rpms - where [addendum] (Ed Hurst)
  Re: newbie distros do they really exist? (franc|um the newbie)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (Justin B Willoughby)
  Re: Bizarre network behavior after reboot (Carl Fink)
  Re: Change multiple filenames all at once? (Vilmos Soti)
  Re: 6.1 update rpms - where [addendum] (Vilmos Soti)

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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:11:34 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Justin B Willoughby wrote:
> 
> MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> > I have a bunch of HOWTOs I recently downloaded that are in HTML format
> > but for some reason are missing the .html extension.  How do I add this
> > extension to each of the files in a single operation?  I'm thinking
> > piping "ls" to "mv" but simply providing the extension as the new
> > filename argument obviously isn't going to work.  How would I do this?
> > Or is there a better way?
> 
> I think this ought to work:
> 
> for * in f
> do
> mv $f $f.html
> done;
> 

I'm not much of a programmer, and have very little shell scripting
experience, so please bear with me.  With respect to the first line, how
do I input the filelist to "f"?  Is "f" a text file?  A variable?  Or
what?  Is this a script to be run from a directory containing only the
files to be renamed?  I apologize for being so clueless here...but hey,
I'm new at this.  ;-)

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From: "Unclaimed Mysteries" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mind hours in development Linux vs. Windows
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:15:58 -0700


Oliver Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> took another step toward USENET history by
writing in part:

> Anyway it's not
> going to be very technical. It's more to do with an instance of
> corporate culture being "infiltrated" by Linux culture.

In that case, there's not going to be very much science journalism going on,
is there?  A gossip columnist could write this article.

--
It came from C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries.
http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net/



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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPProblem
Date: 20 Jun 2000 17:34:59 -0800

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gareth) wrote:
>
>Using minicom or kppd terminal I can log into my account no
>problem but then just get weird system characters every few
>seconds.

You are connecting to a PPP server, except you are using a
terminal emulator (which prints ascii text) to look at the
packets.  It will be total nonsense.

>dialing in with kppd Ican ping the given IP No. but everything
>else is either unreachable or just hangs :-(

Ok, this means something!  If you can ping the IP address of the
remote end of your PPP link, then the link is good and the PPP
connection is up and running.

Everything else hanging or unreachable is a different problem
entirely.  First, run /sbin/route and see if you have a
"default" route, which should be the same IP address as the one
above that you can ping.  If not, then the PPP configuration is
not set up correctly.  (I don't use kpppd, so I'm not sure what
is right and wrong with how you might have it, but it should
configure the route table for a default route.)

The second possible problem is domain name service.  If your
/etc/resolv.conf file does not have an appropriate domain name
server, you will not be able to ping anything beyond the remote
end of your PPP link.  Also the /etc/host.conf must be correct
too.  Mine looks like this:

  order hosts bind 
  multi on 
 
If "bind" is not there, you can't get DNS from a server, only
from your /etc/hosts file.  It, no doubt, doesn't list quite
everybody!

A new twist on that for me was the recent change by my ISP to
some form of a system were either I get an IP address from their
DNS, or their proxy server does not route the return packets
correctly.  I've never seen that before, and commonly use more
than one ISP but have always used just one convenient DNS list
in /etc/resolv.conf.  Now I have to use the right one, or
nothing works.  (Actually, it routes the packets to me, but they
have the wrong source address and are therefore not recognized
by my system as being correct.)

>Minicom is also only available to root as I get an access 
>denied message when logged in as a normal user is this normal
>or possibly the *root* of my problem.

Change the permissions/ownership on the device special file for
your modem line.  I'm not sure what minicom requires.  It might
need to be owned by uucp, for example.

  Floyd

-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

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From: "JeffMc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: microsoft.public.windowsce,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Is this true ? Compaq iPaq with Linux !:
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:34:56 -0700

False,

There are ALOT of non-PalmSize PC , H/PC, PocketPC WinCE devices that use
flash.

The iPAQ is the first PocketPC to use one.

"Brian Keener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> Todd Richert wrote:
> >
> > Putting the OS in flash is nothing new .. its standard practice, how
else
> > would you upgrade it ?  The ROM is only for information that never
changes
> > and is a pain as if it goes out your are SOL unless you feel like
soldering
> > in your palm pc :)
> >
>
> Putting flash rom in a MS WinCE device is completely new:  In fact, the
> Ipaq may be the first to do so, and it is as far as I recall.
>
> Just because it makes sense doesn't mean the manufacturers were doing
> it...
>
> Brian K
>
> > "Amandio J.S. Bacalhau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:8iopsd$tg7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > http://news.tucows.com/pdanews/ce/pdace06202000.html
> > >
> > > Now i know why they put the OS in FlashROM :-)
> > > Its not only for CE OS updates...its also to replace CE completly
> > > if the user wants it...how about also EPOC ?
> > >
> > > AJSB
> > >



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From: James Linder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SERIAL port guru: help
Date: 21 Jun 2000 03:11:24 GMT

Hi
I am doing some serial port programming and all is fine EXCEPT if I kill
the program then it won't run a second time without rebooting the machine.

I've run the debugger on the code and it hangs (sleeps) at the port open
statement.

How do I close the serial port so that I can reopen it and run the program
again?

...
   if ((fd = open (TOSPORT, O_RDWR | O_NOCTTY, 0)) == -1) {
       syslog (LOG_ERR, "[fatal] can't open \"%s\": %m", TOSPORT);
       exit (1);
       }                 
...  hangs on open the second time

... setup
void init_serial (int fd)
{
static struct termios tios;

    tcgetattr (fd, &tios);

    tios.c_iflag = IGNBRK;
    tios.c_cflag = CS8 | CREAD | CRTSCTS;
    tios.c_lflag = 0;
    tios.c_oflag = 0;

    cfsetospeed (&tios, B9600);
    cfsetispeed (&tios, B9600);

    tcsetattr (fd, TCSADRAIN, &tios);
}                                         

Thanks lots
James

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
Date: 21 Jun 2000 02:46:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)

MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Justin B Willoughby wrote:
>> 
>> MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>> > I have a bunch of HOWTOs I recently downloaded that are in HTML format
>> > but for some reason are missing the .html extension.  How do I add this
>> > extension to each of the files in a single operation?  I'm thinking
>> > piping "ls" to "mv" but simply providing the extension as the new
>> > filename argument obviously isn't going to work.  How would I do this?
>> > Or is there a better way?
>> 
>> I think this ought to work:
>> 
>> for * in f
>> do
>> mv $f $f.html
>> done;
>> 
> 
> I'm not much of a programmer, and have very little shell scripting
> experience, so please bear with me.  With respect to the first line, how
> do I input the filelist to "f"?  Is "f" a text file?  A variable?  Or

f is a variable, I could have used almost anything I want. Its basically a
loop going through and moving (renaming) each file to the same thing but
with the .html on the end.

> what?  Is this a script to be run from a directory containing only the
> files to be renamed?  I apologize for being so clueless here...but hey,
> I'm new at this.  ;-)

Yes it should be ran from the directory where you are renaming the files.
For example put the above into a file called chhtml or something like
that. Then at the prompt make it executable by typing  chmod +x chhtml

Then type ./chhtml

If the above script does not work try to replace * with `ls` (those are
back quotes (On the same key as the ~) and need to be there. I can check
to make sure this works in an hour when I get home if you don't want to
try it.

- Justin

--
   _/     _/_/_/  _/    _/  _/    _/ _/   _/   = Justin Willoughby   =
  _/       _/    _/_/  _/  _/    _/   _/_/     = I use SlackWare!!   =
 _/       _/    _/  _/_/  _/    _/    _/_/     = http://justinw.net  =
_/_/_/ _/_/_/  _/    _/  _/_/_/_/   _/   _/    =--- Jesus Is Lord ---=

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From: Wolfgang Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: EMACS RPMs
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:59:48 +0200

Patrick Kong wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have just installed a bare copy of RedHat 6.2, ie. no RPMS except
> IPCHAINS.  Now, I want to install EMACS, could someone tell me which
> package I should install?  I have installed the following package but no
> use:
>    emacs-20.5-7.i386.rpm
> 
> with the command
>    rpm -ivh emacs-20.5-7.i386.rpm
> 
> There are some other packages, ie:
>    emacs-el-20.5-7.i386.rpm
>    emacs-leim-20.5-7.i386.rpm
>    emacs-nox-20.5-7.i386.rpm
>    emacs-X11-20.5-7.i386.rpm
> 
> Should I also install those packages?  Or there are something else.  I
> would like to install only the necessary packages.  Thanks very much.
> 
> Patrick Kong

Hi,

you (and all Redhat 6.2 users) may want to check out the update
to emacs 20.7.  Older versions of Emacs (including those shipped
which RH6.2) are vunerable.

<quote  from news://linux.redhat.announce>
=====================================================================
                   Red Hat, Inc. Security Advisory

Synopsis:          New emacs packages available
Advisory ID:       RHSA-2000:036-01
Issue date:        2000-06-15
Updated on:        2000-06-15
Product:           Red Hat Linux
Keywords:          emacs vulnerability
Cross references:  N/A
=====================================================================

1. Topic:

With emacs < 20.7, unprivileged local users can eavesdrop the
communication
between Emacs and its subprocesses.

</quote>

ftp://updates.redhat.com/6.2/i386/  is the place to get this beast.

greetings

        wolfgang fiedler


-- 
************************************************************************
Wolfgang Fiedler http://fiedler.vc-graz.ac.at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Student of Telematics at Graz University of Technology, Austria, Europe
Institute f. Information Processing & Computer Supported New Media
(IICM)

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Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:05:50 GMT

MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I have a bunch of HOWTOs I recently downloaded that are in HTML format
>> but for some reason are missing the .html extension.  How do I add this
>> extension to each of the files in a single operation?  I'm thinking
>> piping "ls" to "mv" but simply providing the extension as the new
>> filename argument obviously isn't going to work.  How would I do this?
>> Or is there a better way?
> 
> I think this ought to work:
> 
> for * in f
> do
> mv $f $f.html
> done;

Shouldn't the first line be

for f in *

Vilmos

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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:09:29 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Justin B Willoughby wrote:
> 
> MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> > Justin B Willoughby wrote:
> >>
> >> MH ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> >> > I have a bunch of HOWTOs I recently downloaded that are in HTML format
> >> > but for some reason are missing the .html extension.  How do I add this
> >> > extension to each of the files in a single operation?  I'm thinking
> >> > piping "ls" to "mv" but simply providing the extension as the new
> >> > filename argument obviously isn't going to work.  How would I do this?
> >> > Or is there a better way?
> >>
> >> I think this ought to work:
> >>
> >> for * in f
> >> do
> >> mv $f $f.html
> >> done;
> >>
> >
> > I'm not much of a programmer, and have very little shell scripting
> > experience, so please bear with me.  With respect to the first line, how
> > do I input the filelist to "f"?  Is "f" a text file?  A variable?  Or
> 
> f is a variable, I could have used almost anything I want. Its basically a
> loop going through and moving (renaming) each file to the same thing but
> with the .html on the end.
> 
> > what?  Is this a script to be run from a directory containing only the
> > files to be renamed?  I apologize for being so clueless here...but hey,
> > I'm new at this.  ;-)
> 
> Yes it should be ran from the directory where you are renaming the files.
> For example put the above into a file called chhtml or something like
> that. Then at the prompt make it executable by typing  chmod +x chhtml
> 
> Then type ./chhtml
> 
> If the above script does not work try to replace * with `ls` (those are
> back quotes (On the same key as the ~) and need to be there. I can check
> to make sure this works in an hour when I get home if you don't want to
> try it.
> 
I've tried it both ways and get "bash: ./mv-html: No such file or
directory" where "mv-html" is the script file.  Yes, I am in the same
directory as the script, as are the files I want to rename.

BTW--is the use of "back" quotes unique to shell scripting?  I've never
seen that before.  Why not single or double quotes?

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound related question. linux and freebsd.
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:11:11 +0000

Hi,

I'm trying to make cdparanoia to work under freebsd, by
using brandelf command. However, I got the error message
from brandelf saying that the package that I downloaded from
cdparanoia's web site is not elf format?

I've used this method to make a few linux apps to work under
freebsd already, so, I think it should work.

Also, the krabber front end in rpm format does install
either. But all other audio apps works in both x-term and
text modes.

The Kmixer doesn't work under both Linux 2.2.14, 2.2.15
kernels, or freebsd 3.3/4/4.0 either. Permission denied,
even when I logged in as root.

Any help would be appreciated.

Sorry I posted to the network group, hit the wrong line at
my browser. 

Thanks.

Alex

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From: blowfish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO SUSE 6.4
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:15:02 +0000

Dances With Crows wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:48:32 +0100, Douglas Lithgow
> <<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >--------------07A46367531ED505DC5FE1DB
> 
> Stop that.  NOW.  Usenet is a plain-text medium except on certain binaries
> groups; MIME-encoded garbage is not needed.
> 
> >Does Suse 6.4 (DVD edition as supplied on UK PC mag), contain the LILO
> >that is not affected by the 1024 cyliner issue ?
> 
> Doubtful.  The normal DVD edition of SuSE 6.4 shipped before the new LILO

Pardon me for jumping in.

I have the suse 6.4 dvd release. It has the old lilo. But
installation is a breeze with the dvd, no need to change
discs as with the cd release. Very handy.

blackbird.

> was available.  If you must install SuSE on your machine using the new
> LILO, follow these steps:
> 
> 0. install system, putting everything in the place you want it to go and
> ignoring all the warnings
> 1. Do not install LILO--SuSE gives you the option to do that.
> 2. Make a boot floppy!  You can do this during the install process.
> 3. Boot Linux from your boot floppy, get the new LILO at
> ftp://sd.dynhost.com/pub/linux/lilo/ , compile it, install it, run
> it.  Enjoy!
> 
> If 3 seems daunting, keep that boot floppy around and boot your Linux
> system with it until you've gained enough experience to be comfortable
> with compiling and installing things from source code.
> 
> --
> Matt G / Dances With Crows      /\    "Man could not stare too long at the face
> \----[this space for rent]-----/  \   of the Computer or her children and still
>  \There is no Darkness in Eternity \  remain as Man." --David Zindell "So did
> But only Light too dim for us to see\ they become Gods, or Usenetters?" --/me

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From: Andrey Muraviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help with ftp
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:19:06 -0400

Does anybody know how to download directory structure with linux ftp?


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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
Date: 21 Jun 2000 03:14:59 GMT

Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>> filename argument obviously isn't going to work.  How would I do this?
:>> Or is there a better way?
:> 
:> I think this ought to work:
:> 
:> for * in f
:> do
:> mv $f $f.html
:> done;

#!/bin/sh
for a in *; do 
        echo -ne "$a... "
        mv $a $a.html
        echo done
done

or on a single commandline: 

for a in *; do echo -ne "$a... "; mv $a $a.html; echo done; done



-- 
Tim Hockin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This program has been brought to you by the language C and the number F.
ZZ

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Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:26:35 GMT

MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> BTW--is the use of "back" quotes unique to shell scripting?  I've never
> seen that before.  Why not single or double quotes?

Perl also uses backquotes. This simply will execute the command within
the backquotes and put the output of that command for the "outside"
command as parameters. For example, say you would like to erase all
files which has the string "censorship". One obvious way would be

grep -l censorship * | rm

But it won't work since rm doesn't take anything from the stdin. the
solution is

rm `grep -l censorship I`

First, grep will run, and say will find the following files;
article, letter, windows

Thus, for the command line above, first grep runs, and the shell
takes the output. Then next it will place that string on the line as

rm article letter windows

and rm will be happy. The backquotes were already used in csh.
The problem is that it is hard to nest. For this, bash includes
the following construct:

rm $(grep -l censorship *)

And you can nest it to your liking.

Vilmos

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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:27:25 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oops!  Disregard previous post.  I didn't have the full path to "bash"
in the heading to my script.  Also, based on another response to my post
I tried the following successfully:

for file in `ls`
do
newfile=$file.html
mv $file $newfile
done

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Subject: Re: help with ftp
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:27:04 GMT

Andrey Muraviev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does anybody know how to download directory structure with linux ftp?

There is a program called wget.

Vilmos

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
Date: 21 Jun 2000 03:30:29 GMT

On Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:18:11 -0700, 
 MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a bunch of HOWTOs I recently downloaded that are in HTML format
> but for some reason are missing the .html extension.  How do I add this
> extension to each of the files in a single operation?  I'm thinking
> piping "ls" to "mv" but simply providing the extension as the new
> filename argument obviously isn't going to work.  How would I do this? 
> Or is there a better way?

On Debian Potato and Woody, perl provides a handy little script called
'rename'.

rename 's/$/.html/' *

(Yes, the quoted part can be any perl expression... if you know perl,
rename is VERY handy.)

You may want to see if your distribution provides such a useful toy.

-- 
Brian Moore                       | Of course vi is God's editor.
      Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
      Usenet Vandal               |  for it to load on the seventh day.
      Netscum, Bane of Elves.

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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 6.1 update rpms - where
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:30:44 -0500

Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> 
> I want to upgrade my RH 6.1 system such that I get *all* security and
> bug fixes installed up to date. What is the best way to do this?

redhat.com keeps a list and an ftp site just for that

> Can I pull the rpms from somewhere with one big transfer?

Not that I know of, unless you know how to write scripts, and can be
sure you need every file in a particular directory on the server, or can
write the script to ignore what you don't need.

Ed

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From: Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 6.1 update rpms - where [addendum]
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:33:27 -0500

Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> 
> I want to upgrade my RH 6.1 system such that I get *all* security and
> bug fixes installed up to date. What is the best way to do this?
> 
> Can I pull the rpms from somewhere with one big transfer?

I almost forgot:  if you have FileRunner, you can select the specific
files you want from the "source window" with the CTRL+left-click
combination.

Ed

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From: franc|um the newbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]/kill/spammers>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: newbie distros do they really exist?
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 11:39:16 +0800

Err.... how can you have a PIII 366? The slowest PIII is 450 as I know...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

MadHead wrote:

> Surely a distro is only a newbie distro if it works on that newbie's machine
> first time?
>
> That could be any of the distros out there, it is dependant on your
> particular machine's config
> and whether the distro has built in support for your hardware or not.
>
> I've previously installed Red hat 5.2 and 6.0 - 5.2 worked sort of & 6.0
> crashed and burned.
> I moved to Caldera2.2 and got it going ok first time.
> However only after 3 months of trying did I get my sound card, dial up
> networking, mounting Vfat32 disks and numerous other things correctly
> set-up. As I stated above if I had used a distro like mandrake7.0 to start
> with I'd be three months ahead by now.
>
> I also tried Turbo Linux 6.0a it's different to the others but worked.
>
> Mandrake 7.0. Is definitely an improvement on older distributions.
> It offers a lot of choice to the newbie gnome, KDE and lots of already
> updated software.
>
> Let's face it Mandrake is Redhat with lots of updates applied and some nice
> additional touches.
> (Graphical install - definitely a winner in my book)
>
> Mandrake took me 4 attempts to get it working on an old works gateway
> machine PIII 366MHZ.
> I found the problem was simply the installer just don't like you changing
> your mind half way through.
> I now have a multiple booting NT4.0/dos6.22/Mandrake PC - cool.
>
> On my home PC (AMD K6 II 350) It took one go to get all.
> i.e sblive value, 3COM100MB/s network card (3c509XL),
> TNT Nvidia AGP graphics card (diamond Viper 550) and dial-up networking
> all functioning correctly first time without any changes needed at all.
>
> Just as a matter of interest I've worked in the industry for about 15 years
> and have recently
> been involved in a year long move to NT4.0 from Unix character based
> technology
> and I really think that NT4.0 isn't a newbie distro either - in fact a pile
> of ____ springs to mind.
> To get it to work without fault is an achievement in itself and something I
> would never recommend to a newbie user.
>
> Just my little bit,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Flounder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I want to know what makes mandrake a newbie distro? Most people that
> > say Redhat is not a newbie distro say Mandrake is but why? They are
> > pretty much the same. Mandrake you can do all the same stuff you can
> > on redhat, slack, debian and all these other "elite" distros. I have
> > used all these distros and like them all but I have been a linux users
> > for 2 years and have found that you can do all the same things on all
> > these systems. People just seem to think if it is harder it is better.
> > dselect on debian is easy to use so why is debian not a newbie distro.
> > I started on slack and am still here why isn't a newbie distro I ran
> > it as a newbie. I think the reason why people think Mandrake is a
> > newbie system is because it is newer than all those so they think
> > since it hasn't been around as long it is a newbie distro. I want to
> > know what you all think. Tell me what you think is a newbie distro and
> > what makes it that way. Real reason not just like uuuh.... because you
> > an't cool unless you have to uuuh... just because I like so and so
> > distro so the ones I don't like are newbie distros.
> > I do not mean to start a flame war I want serious answers please with
> > valid reasons. I mean linux is linux is linux.
> >
> > Please send all flames to /dev/null
> >
> > --
> > Flounder
> >
> > >+++++++[<++++++++++>-]<++++.---------.+.++++.++.
> >
> >
> >


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
Date: 21 Jun 2000 03:43:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)


Vilmos Soti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>>> I have a bunch of HOWTOs I recently downloaded that are in HTML format
>>> but for some reason are missing the .html extension.  How do I add this
>>> extension to each of the files in a single operation?  I'm thinking
>>> piping "ls" to "mv" but simply providing the extension as the new
>>> filename argument obviously isn't going to work.  How would I do this?
>>> Or is there a better way?
>> 
>> I think this ought to work:
>> 
>> for * in f
>> do
>> mv $f $f.html
>> done;
> 
> Shouldn't the first line be
> 
> for f in *

Yes, I was just typing and not thinking I guess!!! errr

- Justin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: Bizarre network behavior after reboot
Date: 20 Jun 2000 11:11:47 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 20 Jun 2000 12:53:13 -0400 Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just in case anyone later finds my original posting in Deja and
wonders how it was solved:  the problem was that Debian Potato
(pre-release of the next version) defaults to disabling the loop
interface for some reason.  When I uncommented the appropriate line
in /etc/network/interfaces, everything worked again.
-- 
Carl Fink               [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>

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Subject: Re: Change multiple filenames all at once?
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:11 GMT

MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> for file in `ls`

for file in *

is the same.

Vilmos

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Subject: Re: 6.1 update rpms - where [addendum]
From: Vilmos Soti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:03:42 GMT

Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I want to upgrade my RH 6.1 system such that I get *all* security and
>> bug fixes installed up to date. What is the best way to do this?
>> 
>> Can I pull the rpms from somewhere with one big transfer?
> 
> I almost forgot:  if you have FileRunner, you can select the specific
> files you want from the "source window" with the CTRL+left-click
> combination.

Yes.

ftp with ftp (ftp command) to the site and change to the proper directory.
issue the following commands on the ftp prompt:

bin
hash
prompt
mget *

this will change the download mode to binary (no endline conversion),
print hash (#) symbols to show you how the download proceeds,
will not prompt for each file if you really want to download it,
multiple get each file.

Vilmos

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