Linux-Misc Digest #878, Volume #25 Wed, 27 Sep 00 05:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: driver install problem ("Jason Byrne")
Re: Partitioning..... (The Jigsaw Man)
Re: Help installing/configuring tape drive (Charles Rutledge)
Re: intel i810 - sound - where do I start to fix this ?! ("Jason Byrne")
Re: How to check which rpm package a specific file includes ? (Daisuke Kanzaki)
Re: CP/M: 'tis not _completely_ gone... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why I can't redirect both stdout and stderr? (Carfield Yim)
Re: CP/M and Linux, can it read disks (David_C)
Re: linux ppc vs linux alpha vs linux x86? (Jeff Sturm)
Re: hosed X font server? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Why I can't redirect both stdout and stderr? (Bill Unruh)
Re: tree/dirtree/? (E J)
Re: HELP! - Corel Linux install ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: driver install problem ("David ..")
"Tickling" with sound over net (Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ke=DFler?=)
Re: intel i810 - sound - where do I start to fix this ?! (Peter Nunn)
Re: KDE Compiling (Andreas K�h�ri)
Re: tree/dirtree/? (Andreas K�h�ri)
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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: driver install problem
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:07:53 -0700
> I'm using Redhat6.1 and attempting to get a 3Com905b network
> card to work. There's no driver installed or availble in the
> distribution , so I downloaded one on mly windoze machine and put it
> on a floppy.
> I mounted the floppy with the command:
> mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> I did an ls /mnt/floppy, and got
> 3c90x0-1_0_0i_tar.tar
>
> At this point it seems I have a driver on the floppy. I them tried to
> unpack it with the command:
> tar -xvf 3c90x-1_0_0i_tar.tar
>
> My intent was to unpack it right on the floppy, but all I got was
> these error messages:
>
> tar: hmm, this doesn't look like a tar archive
> tar: Skipping to nest file header
> tar: Only read1052 bytes from archive 3c90x-1_0_0i_tar.tar
> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
>
> Anyone have an idea what wrong? should I be unpacking it somewhere
> else?
Windows more than likely butchered the file name - probably ends in .tar.gz
try renaming it to 3c90x.tar.gz
tar xvzf 3c90x.tar.gz
that should do the trick... (for the file)
---
It's a little hard to believe that the driver isn't already on the system
somewhere below /lib/modules/2.x.x, but I also don't know which kernel you
have (maybe an older one... 2.0.x?)
>
> Thanks in advance,
> jerbear
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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:15:06 -0500
From: The Jigsaw Man <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitioning.....
> Newer versions of Lilo (21.3 and later) allow booting a kernel from anywhere
> on the harddisk - if your machine has a newer BIOS that supports LBA32
> Sector Addressing).
Thanks. How can I check that?
The Jigsaw Man
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From: Charles Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help installing/configuring tape drive
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:11:53 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Mark Whyte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've installed an HP DAT drive on my RedHat 6.1 server, but I'm at a
loss on
> how to make the OS recognize it. Upon rebooting the server, it
recognized
> the Adaptec SCSI card, and installed that, however I'm clueless on how
to
> make the OS realize that there's a tape drive present. I'm familiar
with
> SCO Unix, and would use the 'mkdev tape' command, but I'm unaware of
it's
> equivalent in Linux, specifically RedHat. I've searched the HOW-TO's,
but I
> can't find anything there regarding tape drives. I'd appreciate any
help
> anyone can give me, and could you possibly email your response as well
so I
> don't miss it?
The tape drive is /dev/st0 (rewind) and /dev/nst0 (no rewind) and may be
linked to /dev/rmt0 and /dev/nrmt0. The mt command provides control
over some tape functions.
Enjoy.
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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: intel i810 - sound - where do I start to fix this ?!
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:22:37 -0700
"Neil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> HI
>
> Can anyone give me some clues as to how I sort out this mess ! I don't
> understand exactly what these kernel messages mean.
>
> I'm running SuSE 6.3/6.4 kernel 2.2.13.
>
> TIA
>
> Neil
>
>
> Starting sound driver: snd-card-intel8x0 ...
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_new
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
_snd_magic_kcalloc
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
_snd_magic_kfree
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_transfer_done
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_kcalloc
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
> snd_pcm_lib_transfer_size
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_device_new
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_dma_alloc
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_ac97_write_lock
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
> snd_ac97_write_bitmask_lock
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_dma_free
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol synchronize_irq
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol _snd_kfree
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_ac97_mixer
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_lib_ioctl
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
> snd_pcm_lib_transfer_fragment
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
snd_pcm_set_mixer
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_kmalloc
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: insmod
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: insmod snd-card-intel8x0 failed
> done
>
you'd be better off using 'modprobe' than 'insmod' to load this particular
module.
just wondering... did you compile alsa from the latest sources? (0.5.9c
driver, etc...)
INSTALL file is very helpful... provided you take the time to read it *well*
alsa takes slightly more effort to set up than some of the other
alternatives for sound... but it seems to work well when you get it right.
---
For example... I'm running Slackware 7.1 and I found that I needed the
following to get things loaded correctly.
(in /etc/rc.d/rc.modules)
If you're running another Linux distribution - less BSDish - it should still
be useful for the point.
# load sound stuff
/sbin/modprobe snd-card-cmipci
/sbin/modprobe snd-mixer-oss
/sbin/modprobe snd-pcm-oss
/sbin/modprobe snd-seq-oss
I started out with just the line for snd-card-cmipci... and it didn't load
everything I needed... so I added things incrementally until everything was
fixed.
btw... I just installed Slackware 7.1 on a machine at work... with i810
sound - will probably get around to setting up the sound tomorrow.
good luck...
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From: Daisuke Kanzaki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to check which rpm package a specific file includes ?
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:25:21 +0900
I appreciate your useful answers to my questions.
I was able to understand 2 ways as shown below to search for rpm
package that a specific file includes?
1. To search for rpm package accessing www.rpmfind.net.
2. rpm -qilp *.rpm > rpmcontents
After that, to look for rpm package using my favorite editor,
Daisuke Kanzaki
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: CP/M: 'tis not _completely_ gone...
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:37:18 -0400
Christopher Browne wrote:
>
> In our last episode (Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:22:26 -0400),
> the artist formerly known as D. Spider said:
> >It appears that on Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:03:46 GMT, in
> >comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards) wrote:
> >
> >>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, D. Spider wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> Really? Which ones were those that came with the source code?
> >>
> >>[...]
> >>
> >>>Don't forget CPM.
> >>
> >>I don't remember having sources to CP/M. The versions I used
> >>(1.4 and 2.2, IIRC), came with CBIOS sources, but not sources for
> >>CP/M itself.
> >
> >It was available. You had to request an NDA, sign it, and send it
> >back, but if you were developing for the platform that was what you
> >did. Microsoft, among many others, did just that.
>
> Note that sources to ZSDOS, an advanced upwards-compatible successor
> to CP/M, are now available under the GPL.
>
> If you're looking for an operating system to use with a Z-80,
Ummm...err...but...why?
> this ought to be an absolutely _ideal_ choice...
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/obsolete.html>
> 'Typos in FINNEGANS WAKE? How could you tell?' -- Kim Stanley Robinson
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (D) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why I can't redirect both stdout and stderr?
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:29:37 GMT
>
> Are you running C-shell?
Yes.
> Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
>
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Before you buy.
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From: David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CP/M and Linux, can it read disks
Date: 27 Sep 2000 00:36:18 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
>
> Modern floppy drives with integrated controllers may not even be
> capable of reading the data.
I know that CP/M-86 (the version that ran on 8086/8088 PCs) used a
format that the old 160/180/320/360K 5.25" drives could read.
That's the only CP/M experience I've got, unfortunately.
-- David
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From: Jeff Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: linux ppc vs linux alpha vs linux x86?
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:47:56 GMT
guy-jin wrote:
> does anyone have/know where to get benchmarks
> comparing the performance of linux on various
> processors? i want to know how much better
> linux PPC is than everything else :-)
You can look at SPEC. There are many types of benchmarks possible
(graphics, 3D, compuatational, stream, ray tracing, to name a few). You
need to be more specific regarding what sort of benchmarks you are
interested in.
Incidentally, Linux itself has little to do with it. Most benchmarks
don't reflect kernel performance. Performance is usually constrained by
the hardware. Unless the app is very system call-intensive, the kernel
just gets out of the way.
I can tell you one thing: x86 blows at PIC. PIC is necessary for
building ELF relocatable shared libraries. Essentially everything in
/lib (libm, libc, etc.) is built with PIC, and on x86 that can cause a
loss of up to 30% in performance according to my tests. Basically x86
is already register-starved and PIC aggravates the problem.
In constrast, PPC and Alpha are both ELF targets and don't suffer from
PIC. If I had to choose my favorite architectures for running Linux,
Alpha comes in first, SPARC/PPC would probably tie for 2nd, x86 dead
last (well, maybe ahead of MIPS).
And the jury is still out on IA-64...
Jeff
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: hosed X font server?
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 04:50:39 GMT
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:11:12 -0700, Bob Holtzman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>After my first attempt at backing up the whole system to an HP 20 gig IDE tape
>drive as root via:
>
>tar cvf /dev/ht0 /
>
>when I tried to log in as user I kept getting dumped back to the graphical
>login screen. When I rebooted all went well until X windows tried to start
>automatically and I got a black screen. After _quickly_ bailing out, I
>found I could boot into run level 3 O.K. When I tried to do anything
>involving writing to a file the error message said file system was full.
>Had to delete some log files before I could do anything else.
You probably freed up enough space for root, but not non-root users
which have a different limitation. Look in /tmp for something big.
>When I try "startx" the error message is:
>
>Failed to set default font path 'unix/:-1'
>_FontTransSocketUNIXConnect: can't connect: errno=111
>Fatal Server Error:
>could not open default font 'fixed'
>
>When I look at /etc/X11/XF86Config I see:
>
>font path "unix/:-1"
Typically of insufficient disk space. xfs runs as user 'xfs', and lacks
root privileges.
http://feenix.eyep.net/xstuff/xfs.html#trouble
--
Hal B
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Why I can't redirect both stdout and stderr?
Date: 27 Sep 2000 05:11:04 GMT
In <8qrt3d$3hi$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Carfield Yim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> Are you running C-shell?
>Yes.
man csh
look for redirect.
> redirects stdout
>& redirects both stdout and stderr
The shell cannot presently redirect diagnostic output
without also redirecting standard output, but `(command >
output-file) >& error-file' is often an acceptable
workaround. Either output-file or error-file may be
`/dev/tty' to send output to the terminal.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tree/dirtree/?
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:49:12 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I thought I remembered somebody talking about
> a command that gave a tree structured directory
> listing. Does anybody know the command? I tried
> dirtree, xtree, etc etc... Thanks
$ man tree
TREE(1) TREE(1)
NAME
tree - list contents of directories in a tree-like format.
SYNOPSIS
tree [ -adfgilnpqstuxACDFN ] [ -P pattern ] [ -I pattern ] [
directory ... ]
DESCRIPTION
Tree is a recursive directory listing program that produces a
depth indented
listing of files, which is colorized ala dircolors if the
LS_COLORS environ�
ment variable is set and output is to tty. With no arguments,
tree lists
the files in the current directory. When directory arguments
are given,
tree lists all the files and/or directories found in the given
directories
each in turn. Upon completion of listing all files/directories
found, tree
returns the total number of files and/or directories listed.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HELP! - Corel Linux install
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 05:45:24 GMT
> If your Linux drive is attached to the primary master (/dev/hda) and
> your Lose9x drive is attached to the primary slave (/dev/hdb) then
you'd
> edit /etc/lilo.conf to look like so, run lilo, and everything should
> work as expected the next time you reboot. There is no need to
> reinstall Lose9x (this time, that is!)
>
> boot=/dev/hda # install bootloader on MBR of /dev/hda
> (...stuff, don't fiddle with it...)
> image=/boot/vmlinuz # usual place for it
> label=linux
> root=/dev/hdaX # your root partition
> append="" # append statements go here
> other=/dev/hdb1
> label=lose
> table=/dev/hdb
> map-drive=0x80 to=0x81 # fool Lose9x into booting properly from
> map-drive=0x81 to=0x80 # the second hard drive
>
> This should work. HTH, good luck.
Just a note. If your HD is not IDE, but SCSI, then it will probably
be /dev/sda1, etc. instead of /dev/hda1, except i know my system
goes /dev/sda1 ,sdb1, etc...presumably something to do with LUN
support....but thats a whole different story.
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Before you buy.
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: driver install problem
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 01:12:36 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I'm using Redhat6.1 and attempting to get a 3Com905b network
> card to work. There's no driver installed or availble in the
> distribution , so I downloaded one on mly windoze machine and put it
> on a floppy.
> I mounted the floppy with the command:
> mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy
> I did an ls /mnt/floppy, and got
> 3c90x0-1_0_0i_tar.tar
>
I have the 3com 905B and it uses the 3c59x.o module which is included
with the kernel.
Put this line in /etc/conf.modules
alias eth0 3c59x
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
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From: Stefan =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ke=DFler?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Tickling" with sound over net
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:25:06 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I'm having problems running net audio-applications like
RAT,voxilla,Netmeeting: The sound-card produces always a sort of
tickling, which comes obviously from the network data packages. Does
anybody know this problem or has an idea how to solve it?
Thanx, Stefan
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From: Peter Nunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: intel i810 - sound - where do I start to fix this ?!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:32:49 +1100
You could try RH 7 as this is supposed to support this MB.
Peter
Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>HI
>
>Can anyone give me some clues as to how I sort out this mess ! I don't
>understand exactly what these kernel messages mean.
>
>I'm running SuSE 6.3/6.4 kernel 2.2.13.
>
>TIA
>
>Neil
>
>
>Starting sound driver: snd-card-intel8x0 ...
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_new
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol _snd_magic_kcalloc
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol _snd_magic_kfree
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_transfer_done
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_kcalloc
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
>snd_pcm_lib_transfer_size
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_device_new
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_dma_alloc
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_ac97_write_lock
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
>snd_ac97_write_bitmask_lock
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_dma_free
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol synchronize_irq
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol _snd_kfree
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_ac97_mixer
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_lib_ioctl
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol
>snd_pcm_lib_transfer_fragment
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_pcm_set_mixer
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: unresolved symbol snd_kmalloc
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: insmod
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o failed
>/lib/modules/2.2.13/misc/snd-intel8x0.o: insmod snd-card-intel8x0 failed
> done
>
Peter Nunn
DownUnder
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Subject: Re: KDE Compiling
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Sep 2000 10:41:34 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
flipper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I've tried to compile KDE 2.0 and ./configure on kdesupport
>fail at odbc section with a message like this:
>
>checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
>checking for exception ... yes
>checking for string ... no
>configure: error: Header string not found
>configure: error: ./configure failed for odbc
>
>I' ve 20000926 snapshots files of KDE, the
>final beta release.
>
>Anyone can help please
>
>Bye
What does the 'config.log' file at the point of the error? On what
kind of GNU/Linux system are you doing this? Do you have a working C++
development environment (all header files etc.)?
/A
--
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Subject: Re: tree/dirtree/?
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 27 Sep 2000 10:43:33 +0100
In article <8qqg0j$ok$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I thought I remembered somebody talking about
>a command that gave a tree structured directory
>listing. Does anybody know the command? I tried
>dirtree, xtree, etc etc... Thanks
It's 'tree'. On Debian systems it's its own package.
/A
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