Linux-Misc Digest #880, Volume #20 Thu, 1 Jul 99 16:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need Iomega Ditto 3200 (3.2G) Tape Drive info (Ron Gibson)
Navigator Fails. ("m&m")
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: segmentation fault (core dumped) and RPM (Scott Lanning)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! ("richard van fossan")
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? (Terry Carmen)
Re: Redirecting logs to terminal (Paul Anderson)
Re: Any Netflow Collector/Analyzer tools out there? (Bob Terry)
What is "INIT: Id "s2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes"? (Jim White)
Re: Why are things so screwy ? (David Fouts)
Running another OS under Linux (Alan Lake)
need libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2 ("S. G. Student")
internet speed ("John & Ann Farrow")
Mr. Kulisz wisdom (was:first/second/third world) (Nonnaho)
Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop? (Leonard Evens)
Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark? ("Bob Taylor")
Log out users automatically? (Ian Munro)
Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote! ("Binesh Bannerjee")
Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues. (Norman Walsh)
Re: Tell me I'm wrong... (John Girash)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.setup.misc
Subject: Re: Need Iomega Ditto 3200 (3.2G) Tape Drive info
Date: 1 Jul 1999 18:20:05 GMT
On Wed, 30 Jun 1999 15:44:31, "Actarus [VL]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > On 06/29/99 at 10:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ron Gibson) said:
> >
> > >I'm considering getting an Iomega 3200 (3.2 G) floppy connected internal
> > >tape backup.
> >
> > Wow... that's GOTTA be slow.
>
> Nope... a floppy port connection is faster than a parallel port. Trust
> me, my Ditto 2000 is external.
Take a look at this from IOMEGA...
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omegazine(tm) - Support
Document #3000
Revision 003
What will happen if the Ditto Max, 3200, or 2GB Insider is
connected to a 500 Kb/sec. controller?
This document applies to the following:
Operating System: Windows 95, NT, 3.1x, MS-DOS
Device Type: Ditto Insider
Software Version: Ditto Tools, Iomega Backup, Flash!File
Why can't I use a Ditto Max, 3200, 2GB or 1700 tape drive
on a 500 Kb/sec. controller card?
The 3200MB* and 2GB* tape drive motors were designed to run at one of
two speeds, 1Mb/sec. or 2 Mb/sec. The controller card the tape drive is
connected to will send data at a specified speed. If the controller card
does not send the data at the same rate the tape drive motor is moving
the tape; the backup performance will drop as will the compression
ratio.
To use the Ditto 3200 or Ditto 1700 tape drive on a 500Kb/sec.
controller card, the tapes will have to be re-formatted on the
500Kb/sec. controller card. The Ditto 2GB* will require a 1Mb/ sec. or
faster controller card; the 2GB tape drive will not function on a
500Kb/sec. controller card. The Ditto Max must use the 4MB/sec
controller card included with the drive.
If the 3200 MB* tape drive is connected to a 500Kb/sec. card there are
several issues that will arise. First, the slower controller speed will
not allow for compression. In other words, the 3200 MB* tape drive
capacity will be decreased to 1600MB. In addition, the transfer rate of
the tape drives will decrease with both tape drives, which may cause the
tape drive to shoeshine. Iomega does not recommend using the Ditto Max,
3200MB* or 2GB* tape drives with a 500Kb/sec. controller card.
How do I know what speed my controller card is?
To determine if your floppy disk controller is able to support the Ditto
3200, 2GB, or 1700, Iomega has developed a utility that will indicate
the speed of your floppy disk controller called Iodetect.exe. This
utility is available from Iomega's WebStie. Once this file has been
downloaded, execute this program from the DOS prompt. This utility will
tell you the speed of your floppy disk controller.
If you are unable to obtain the Iodetect.exe utility, the speed of the
controller card usually can not be determined by looking at the card. To
determine the speed of your controller card, refer to the documentation
that came with the computer.
Iomega recommends using the Ditto Dash Accelerator card with the Ditto
3200 and 2GB* tape drives.
*Compression assumes 2:1 ratio. Actual compression will vary with
file and hardware configuration.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "m&m" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Navigator Fails.
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 14:25:16 -0400
Hi fellows:
Whenever I try to visit web pages with Java functions enabled, such as
www.java.sun.com, Navigator quits without any warning. Is there a way to
correct this problem?
Thanks
m&m
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: 1 Jul 1999 14:35:56 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc "Bob Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
= And how do you know this actually happened? Were you present? You read
= it in a book written by an American hater? On behalf of the Americans
= who died saving your sorry ass in WWII, I *demand* a retraction and
= appology for such a vicious attack!
Who are you to *demand* anything?
More to the point, I really wish the US lusers would stop it with the "We
pulled your ass(sp) out of the fire in WWII" bollocks.
The USA was *supposedly* an ally from BEFORE the war...
So, Mr Taylor... What year was the start of WWII again??? 1939? Or 1942?
WHERE WERE YOU LOT THEN?
And don't come back with any balls about the US helping to rebuilt the
infrastructure in Britain with lots of money, because those were LOANS,
which we paid back and owe you NOTHING on that anymore.
--
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|Principal subjects in:-| "THAT WOULD BE AN ECUMENICAL MATTER!...FECK!!!! |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lanning)
Subject: Re: segmentation fault (core dumped) and RPM
Date: 1 Jul 1999 16:01:12 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: I installed Oleo and sc. Both of these programs are RPMs.
: When I try to run them i get 'segmentation fault (core dumped)'.
: What is this fault and how can i make the programs work?
segfault means the process is trying to write somewhere in
memory that it doesn't have permission to write. When this
happens, the kernel, protective of its precious memory, raises
a finger and says, "huh-uh, sugar, you ain't gettin' da booty".
Often, I've found that it's due to a library incompatibility;
namely, one has updated to a newer version of a program but
retained the old glibc. In your case, it may be that you
haven't updated everything that needs to be updated (regardless
of whether RPM let you install). If I were you, I'd check the
docs of oleo and sc, and see if it mentions dependencies on
other programs, particularly glibc.
--
Scott Lanning: [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://physics.bu.edu/~slanning
"Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer."
--Edsger Dijkstra
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From: "richard van fossan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 08:49:17 -0700
Why is there a question about how to pronounce Linux? Just download the wav
file of Linus ("lee-noos") Torvalds (like it's spelled) pronouncing it
"lee-nooks." The "ee" is the long "e" sound and "nooks" is pronounced just
like the English word that goes with "crannies." Since he named it, I'm
willing to accept his opinion of how it should be pronounced.
As George Carlin once said, "You can spell your name "S-M-I-T-H and
pronounce it Jenovski if you want to."
Rich
Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc, "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> :Why, it's simply Linux (pronounced "Vindaloo"), not a Beowulf (pronounced
> :"Mutton Vindaloo Beast"...) The question is what is the word that
> :is pronounced "lager" and "popadom"...
>
> Why, that would be "apache" and "perl" respectively, of course.
>
> --tom
> --
> "I've seen more convincing wigs on William Shatner"
> - John Larroquette
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Carmen)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:56:00 GMT
On 30 Jun 1999 15:32:01 -0500, James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc John Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: Encarta is a Microsoft product. They can edit it as they please.
>
>Does it mean that M$ has the right to revise history,
>or change facts?
It means that they can say absolutely anything that they feel like,
including revising old history, rewriting current events, or just
plain make stuff up.
It's up to the reader to decide if they believe it or not.
Terry
"It's much easier to develop software using actual technology, instead of just made-up
stuff."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: Redirecting logs to terminal
Date: 1 Jul 1999 00:57:08 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>I think I read somewhere about how you can make show all your logs to a
>certain terminal (tty7 for example). How can I do this?
>
You probably read it in my Tips HOWTO, you can grab it at:
http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP
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From: Bob Terry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux.isp
Subject: Re: Any Netflow Collector/Analyzer tools out there?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 13:30:09 -0500
Have you looked into MRTG? ( http://www.datrix.co.za/docs/mrtg/ ) - It
can do a lot of what you're looking for. If you go as far as setting
up "traps" you can have it beep your pager, etc. It's free, runs under
linux, and is somewhat easy to setup and configure. It will query any
standard SNMP Device. Check it out... I think you'll like it.
-bt
In article <7jo6pt$8h9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Walter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Help!
>
> I'm looking for any netflow collector/analyzer tools that can work against a
> Cisco 7200 series router.
>
> While I wouldn't mind hearing about other OS options, I'd prefer something
> that runs on Linux.
>
> Any info or suggestions would be appreciated!
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jim White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is "INIT: Id "s2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes"?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:30:21 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi, linux fan. Do you know what this mean?
INIT: Id "s2" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
This sentence appear on my idle linux monitor once every 20 minutes.
Is there something wrong?
-- Jim
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From: David Fouts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Why are things so screwy ?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:07:31 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I was just telling another person that "you don't understand, I actually
need to be productive" when I read your e-mail. I've spent way too much time
trying to get stuff running and waiting to be productive with Linux. I
realize that there are some very productive and useful sites running on
Linux but I'm beggining to think that they have guys that do nothing but
work full time on playing with it. Linux is neat but I'm afraid it's not
ready for prime time but who knows what will happen, I got the RH6.0 version
and Calderas new version (both commercial $79 and $49) and I might as well
have downloaded them for what you get. I'm not giving up on Linux yet but
I'm running out of time that I have to throw away on it.
Good Luck with your efforts.
-Dave-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Michael Pacey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Vod:
> >
>
> > If you really want to install cutting edge stuff from source, then
> > you'll have to learn a lot about what's going on. I tried this for
> > months and got not too far, and I have a fair amount of computing
> > experience including programming. Frankly I don't have the time or the
> > energy just now to get deeply involved in the details of how
> > applications work under linux, how the libraries work, etc, though I
> > would love to. Having a full time job prevents me from doing so. I
> > suppose you are in the same situation.
>
> Same here, Pacey having a 9 to 5 job doesnt leave much time
> for hobbies. All the more reason for frustation.
> Thanks anyway.
>
> > Best of luck, please stay calm.
>
> (counting 10...9....8...7...6..5..zzzzz)
>
> > Michael Pacey
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > vod wrote:
> > >
> > > hi there,
> > >
> > > These dayz i spend more time *trying* to get things to
> > > work on Linux than actually doing anything productive.
> > > It seems almost 80% of time is spent trying to compile *tar_gz
> > > files and rpm'ing rpms that i download.
> > > And more than half the times they dont compile straight-away.
> > >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > > ======
> > > Any tips or solutions or comments to my above mentioned problems
> would
> > > be very welcome and much appreciated.
> > >
> > > * I am running Redhat 5.2 .
> > >
> > > --regards--
> > > -V0D-
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
--
========================
Dave Fouts
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From: Alan Lake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Running another OS under Linux
Date: 1 Jul 1999 18:30:58 GMT
I saw a software package that runs Windows (and possibly other Operating
Systems) under Linux. Does anyone know the URL of anyone marketing such
software? Thanx.
================== Posted via SearchLinux ==================
http://www.searchlinux.com
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From: "S. G. Student" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 12:04:38 -0700
Trying to get Festival running via alien & rpms at festival site. ldd
shows I need libstdc++-libc6.2-1.so.2. Where can I get it? Are there
any special precautions needed to install on my Linux 2.0 system?
Festival help apparently not yet available via their site but their
demos very impressive. Thanks
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From: "John & Ann Farrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: internet speed
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:06:09 -0600
Hi All,
Just recently installed mandrake 6.0 (workstation) got the kkkp working
after resetting the pnp modem. The problem I have is Netscape is about 3-4
slower that it was in windows. Tried it in KDE and GNOME, same results. I
may have messed up something when I was attempting to get kkkp setup
(perhaps lxconfig???)
Is the slower speed a charactistic of linux?
Any suggestions.......please
--
John and Ann Farrow
Cloudcroft, New Mexico
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From: Nonnaho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Mr. Kulisz wisdom (was:first/second/third world)
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 11:58:54 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks for your reply, but I was hoping that Mr. Kulisz would enlighten us with
his wisdom.
Nonnaho
Chad Mulligan wrote:
>
> Nonnaho wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >
> >
> >Richard Kulisz wrote:
> >>
> >snip
> >
> >
> >Mr. Kulisz ( may I call you Dick? ), in a few post ago you said:
> >
> >"So it was "practical" to escalate the genocide in the former Yugoslavia?"
> >
> >Since you brought up the subject, I would like to get your views on it.
> >At the time NATO ( which is made up of more countries than just the US ) started
> >getting involved in Yugoslavia, there were many protest in the US. Many US citizens
> >did not think the US should get involved in other countries internal matters. How
> >many ( non evil imperial countries ) allow this kind of FREEDOM of it's own citizens
> >to criticize their own governments actions?
> >
>
> Other than England (They'll always be an England, Thanks God) not many.
>
> >On the other side of the argument, many people were saying that if we did nothing,
> >we would have let genocide happen in another country, and that it would be no
> >different than watching a woman get raped on the street and do nothing about it.
> >
>
> Kind of telling now that the Huntington Library is going to allow display of the
> Nuremberg Laws signed by Hitler in the '30's
>
> >So, the question I put to you: If you had the power to stop genocide in another
> >country, should you use it? Please give a clear and decisive answer and explain
> >why you would or would not. I think this is a far request to someone that is
> >quite vocal about the US's decisions.
> >
>
> Emphatically yes.
>
> >One other comment, what do you think of the other countries that are part of
> >NATO? Are as bad or worst than the US? PLEASE don't try to use the line that
> >they had no other choice but to go along with the US. Every news source that
> >I heard said that the US was dragging its feet on getting involved, and that the
> >other NATO countries wanted to take action. If you have information to the
> >contrary, please post your source.
> >
>
> The Italians even, temporarily set aside their conflict with the US over that
>aircraft
> incident that killed some skiers to participate in this. I think everyone with any
> common sense saw the danger.
>
> >I look forward to reading your reply.
> >
> >--
> >Nonnaho
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell Inspiron compatibility? What is best laptop?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 13:26:30 -0500
David J. Topper wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I've run Linux on desktop machines since kernel 1.0.x. I also use it in
> our lab. The time has come, however, to explore laptop issues. My
> employer has a deal with Dell, which offers competative discounts for
> laptops. I must say that the Dell Inspiron line looks pretty good!
>
> I'd love to hear comments / get input from folks. I've already
> contacted the OSS folks about audio support, but have yet to hear. I'm
> of course concerned about support for various components like the 3com
> combo 56k + 10/100 that comes with the Dell. DVD? PCMCIA? Video Card?
>
> Email responses preferred.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> DT
> --
> David Topper
> Technical Director - Virginia Center for Computer Music
> Programmer Analyst - School of Arts and Sciences
> http://www.people.virginia.edu/~djt7p
> (804) 924-6887
One of my colleagues recently purchased a Dell Inspiron with a
15 in screen. We had a lot of trouble setting it up. First, we
could not use Fips2.0 to reduce the size of the Win 98 partition
because Dell had put some unmovable files at the end of the
partition, which could not be moved down by dfrag. (I seem
to remember there is a way around this, but I can't recall what
it is.) We used Partition Magic instead, and that worked. But
then we had a lot of trouble setting up X. My colleague had
found a web page with instructions, but I don't recall what it
was. (There are several other such web pages if you look.)
We finally got it to work, but in order to do so we had to
_downgrade_ the BIOS! We were not able to get his
PCMCIA ethernet card to work, and he had to go out of
town, so we will give it another try when he gets back.
Of course some or all of these problems might arise for
any other laptop. I've had good success with a Winbook.
When I bought it they were using a C&T video chip which
was covered by XFree. I decided to reinstall Windows 95
rather than try to use Fips, so I don't know if that would
work. But my ethernet card works fine.
Whatever you get, double check what the vendor provides
against any recommendations since the vendors change
their hardware frequently.
Of course if you get a laptop from a Linux platform provider
like VAResearch or Penguin, you won't have to worry about
these matters, but they tend to concentrate on high end
expensive machines. Still it is worth checking their
web pages.
--
Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Bob Taylor")
Subject: Re: Could Microsoft Cheat On The New Mindcraft Benchmark?
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,omp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.infosystems.www.servers.unix
Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 11:44:00 -0700
In article <7lfucc$9j0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> In comp.os.linux.misc "Bob Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> = And how do you know this actually happened? Were you present? You read
> = it in a book written by an American hater? On behalf of the Americans
> = who died saving your sorry ass in WWII, I *demand* a retraction and
> = appology for such a vicious attack!
>
> Who are you to *demand* anything?
You falsely accused Americans of brutality.
> More to the point, I really wish the US lusers would stop it with the "We
> pulled your ass(sp) out of the fire in WWII" bollocks.
Look, you insufferable ass, the people of the US build the worlds
largest and most successful economy. Our farmers feed the US
population and 25% of the rest of the world. The American people
freely give of their time and money to those less fortunate.
Now as to WWII, why don't you do some research and a little thinking?
> The USA was *supposedly* an ally from BEFORE the war...
> So, Mr Taylor... What year was the start of WWII again??? 1939? Or 1942?
> WHERE WERE YOU LOT THEN?
The overwhelming opinion of the Americans prior to Hitler was to stay
out of European squabbles. There was also laws against involvement.
Exactly *what* do you define WWII as? The war against Germany began
when Britain and France declared war. As far as I am concerned, WWII
began when the US declared war on Japan and Germany declared war on
the US.
> And don't come back with any balls about the US helping to rebuilt the
> infrastructure in Britain with lots of money, because those were LOANS,
> which we paid back and owe you NOTHING on that anymore.
American money rebuilt Europe under the Marsall Plan. I Have *no* use
whatsoever for revisionist historians. They are an insult to
history. I also have little use and absolutly *no* respect for people
who spread lies about my country and my people. Most especially
vicious ones such as these.
--
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| Gnome certainly is (serious competition to the Mac or Windows) |
| ... I get a charge out of seeing the X Window System work the |
| way we intended..." - Jim Gettys |
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From: Ian Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Log out users automatically?
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:06:39 +0100
Hello,
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to automatically log out users
and prevent them logging back in again over a fixed time period.
E.G between 1am and 2am all logged on users will be logged off and won't
be able to log back on until after 2am.
In desperate need of help
Ian
--
Tel. +44 (0)1707 286049, Fax +44 (0)1707 284199,
i.munro@(no spam)herts.ac.uk, http://dragon.herts.ac.uk/~eleqim
Dept Electronic, Communication & Electrical Eng.
University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts. AL10 9AB England
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From: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pronouncing "Linux" - your vote!
Crossposted-To: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 06:26:55 GMT
Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Binesh Bannerjee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> Tom Christiansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : Don't be silly. If you're going to be serious, be serious.
:> : Otherwise, Linux is obviously pronounced "smeg".
:>
:> No, no no... It's pronounced "Vindaloo".
: if only i had me a lager and a giant popadom...
Why, it's simply Linux (pronounced "Vindaloo"), not a Beowulf (pronounced
"Mutton Vindaloo Beast"...) The question is what is the word that
is pronounced "lager" and "popadom"...
Binesh
: --
: johan kullstam
> The others appear from the direction they were running in originally,
> rather distressed expressions on their faces. They duck down a side
> corridor. The monster arrives, and faces LISTER. LISTER backs off. As
> he does so, he knocks over an open can of lager. The monster steps in
> the spilt liquid, there is a hissing sound, and the monster draws back
> its foot with a roar of pain.
>
> LISTER: Of course. Lager! The only thing that can kill a vindaloo!
>
> He picks up a full lager can. With superhuman (for his height) strength
> he tosses the lager can at the monster. The can wedges between it's
> mandibles. LISTER than takes aim and fires! The blast from his
> bazookoid strikes the can, and it explodes. So does the monster. Curry
> flies everywhere, covering everything in sight. LISTER is knocked to the
> ground by a particuarly large gob. Shen the dust has finally settled,
> the others approach LISTER, lying dazed and covered in curry. He grins
> up at them cheerfully.
>
> LISTER: Has anyone got a poppadom the size of Lake Michigan? This
> stuff's really good!
>
>
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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.unix.bsd.misc
Subject: Re: Docbook? Linuxdoc? Re: Documentation issues.
Reply-To: Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 01 Jul 1999 15:29:20 -0400
/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) was heard to say:
| would likely regard as an oncoming locomotive, seeing as how an O'Reilly
| book is supposed to be coming out pretty soon on DocBook and Norm Walsh's
| DSSSL stylesheets. <http://nwalsh.com>
|
| Seeing as how this isn't "free" documentation, some will not approve, and
Well, it'll be "free" in some sense. The complete text of the
book will be available online at the OASIS site (and my site) in
both the SGML source form and as formatted HTML.
The exact terms of the license agreement are still being discussed,
so don't ask (yet ;-).
Cheers,
norm
--
Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Imagine if every Thursday your
http://nwalsh.com/ | shoes exploded if you tied them
| the usual way. This happens to us
| all the time with computers, and
| nobody thinks of
| complaining.--Jeff Raskin
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux
Subject: Re: Tell me I'm wrong...
Date: 1 Jul 1999 14:37:59 -0500
HellNo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I downloaded a copy of SYSLINUX (linux on a floppy) and ran it of my
: floppy drive...
: After loging in as root (*no password*) I had complete access to /root
: after mounting my RH6.0 partition! It seems to have read/write/xecute
: access to all dirs. I even managed to reboot the machine
: using '/mnt/linux/usr/sbin/shutdown -r now' rather than using the
: reboot file that comes with SYSLINUX. Has anyone tried this? Someone
: please tell me I got it all wrong.
Actually, I'm glad to say that you didn't get it wrong -- if this sort of
thing being possible wasn't intentional it would be of great concern.
But you've got it right: (s)he who controls the boot device controls the
system, even if the boot device is a simple floopy disk. Otherwise OS
installation and maintenance would be rather difficult in many situations.
Ways to obviate potential damage/piracy by others from this include:
a) restricting physical access to the system (always a Good Idea);
b) turning off "boot from A:" in BIOS, setting a BIOS password to keep it so;
c) using an encrypted filesystem to keep data that you want private, private.
Of course, if someone has physical access to the box and its supply of power
then pretty much nothing will keep its contents safe. It's pretty easy to
open the box, discharge the CMOS, and install your own boot drive in any case.
--
"don't listen when you're told about the best days in your life Spirit of
a useless old expression, it means passing time until you die." the West
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-- John Girash -- girash @ cfa.harvard.edu - http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --
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