Linux-Misc Digest #996, Volume #20 Sun, 11 Jul 99 06:13:17 EDT
Contents:
Re: **NEWBEE** modprobe: can't locate module lo after new kernel? ("John
Janachowski")
Re: Cron entry to run once? (Kristin Aanestad)
Re: "find" running after boot - why? (Kristin Aanestad)
Re: FIDO Software (Brad Corsello)
Too obvious to see? (Gordon Anderson)
Re: Linux and automount (Tobias Anderberg)
Re: Amiga will use the Linux kernel. (Dave)
Re: Memory hogging, and dpms ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Too obvious to see? (Gergo Barany)
any way to access MBR directly? (Michael Robson)
anyone knows how to set bcast with ifconfig (bono)
Multiple Newbie questions (Farouk Dindar)
my ppp does not work with kernel 2.2.x (AGX)
Re: Linux and Memory (root)
Re: Hard disk troubles (Michael McConnell)
Re: Making an ICQ server (Sander)
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From: "John Janachowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: **NEWBEE** modprobe: can't locate module lo after new kernel?
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:38:49 -0500
Your still have networking enabled in conf.modules or modules.conf file in
/etc. When booting, the kernel reads the <previous> modules file. Add
networking to your .config file and rebuild again.
Cheers!
Chris McGarry wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I had everything working fine no errors in /var/log/messages on my
>"stock" RedHat 6.0 system. I downloaded 2.2.10 Kernel, make menuconfig,
>make dep, make bzImage, make modules, make modules_install and now I'm
>receiving the errors below. Any ideas? Did I miss something in
>menuconfig? Also when I ran "make menuconfig" I choose not to add
>support for a 3com card I have in the system but do intend to use it I
>thought I could add it later as a module in file /etc/conf.modules is
>this true??? I think I know just enough to be dangerous : )
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>
>modprobe: can't locate module lo:1
>modprobe: can't locate module lo:2
>------------
>------------
>modprobe: can't locate module lo:48
>modprobe: can't locate module lo:49
>network: Bringing up interface lo succeeded
>then
>modprobe: can't locate module eth0:1
>modprobe: can't locate module eth0:2
>------------
>------------
>modprobe: can't locate module eth0:48
>modprobe: can't locate module eth0:49
>network: Bringing up interface eth0 succeeded
>then
>modprobe: can't locate module eth1:1
>modprobe: can't locate module eth1:2
>------------
>------------
>modprobe: can't locate module eth1:48
>modprobe: can't locate module eth1:49
>network: Bringing up interface eth1:succeeded
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From: Kristin Aanestad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cron entry to run once?
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:55:11 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Stewart Honsberger wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 18:56:28 +0000, Kristin Aanestad wrote:
> >> A tad over the top for my needs here - and I don't see a PID file (or any
> >> reference to said) in the setiathome directory.
> >
> >I don't know what Seti@Home is, but i run a few eggdrops - if it's the
> >botchk script you have a problem with, the way you "communicate"
> >with cron is via a utility called crontab.
>
> I know all about that - the thing is, Seti@Home doesn't appear to create
> a PID - which the botchk script uses.
>
> I may not be able to write shell code - but I do (mostly) understand it :>
The eggdrop creates the botpid-file when it starts.
The botchk script checks for the botpid-file.
If the botpid-file doesn't exist when botchk runs, botchk starts the eggdrop.
In *addition* it checks the validity of an existing pid-file, and if it doesn't
correspond with an existing actual PID it will assume it's a "stale bot" -
and start tbe bot.
Unless Seti@Home is an eggdrop I can't quite see how it initially should
create a bot-pid file. You could of course make a fake one, to fool
botchk to see it as stale, but that's kinda pointless.
I guess we're talking about two completely different things here -
good luck with the SETI :)
K.
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From: Kristin Aanestad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "find" running after boot - why?
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:00:39 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Umm...isn't that "slocate" - not "find" ?
On my installation the cronjob running slocate is in cron.daily
and slocate is told to run searching only certain directories.
It doesn't run immediately after startup. (It runs a 04:02 :P)
Prasanth Kumar wrote:
> That is a script which is "indexing" the filesystem so you can quickly
> find them using the "locate" command when can give instant information.
> It is not necessary except for the use of this feature so you can disable
> it.
> You need to find the cron job or script which runs the "updatedb" script
> which does this finding.
>
> Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello,
> > maybe it's a stupid question, but I didn't observe this on my former
> > Linux installation:
> > When I start Linux, almost always a quite busy job is automatically
> > started and working on my HD for several minutes, beginning 1 or 2
> > minutes after having booted into Linux. top indicates that it is a find
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Corsello)
Subject: Re: FIDO Software
Reply-To: bcorsello[AT]usa[DOT]net
Date: 11 Jul 1999 08:03:44 GMT
On Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:12:59 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Dima Pashko wrote:
>> Can you said me what software I must use for connect to FIDO ?
>> Thank you.
Don't they have BinkleyTerm for Linux? (That brings back memories!)
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon Anderson)
Subject: Too obvious to see?
Date: 10 Jul 1999 17:04:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gordon Anderson)
I have a new Linux installation on which I also created a small
DOS partition. That partition does show up as mounted in linux.
I can use MCOPY to put a text file on a dos-formatted floppy,
but how do I do the same thing into that DOS partition. If I
use the regular linux cp command, won't that damage DOS files
in the DOS partition?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tobias Anderberg)
Subject: Re: Linux and automount
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 23:02:18 +0200
>Hi,
>
>Is there an automounter system for linux?
>
>Is there one in the pipeline?
>
>Why is there no automounter?
Not sure what you mean. If you mean an automounter for filesystems, check
out autofs.
--
tobias
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From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Amiga will use the Linux kernel.
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 06:50:39 GMT
Spawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I read a report that Amiga will use the Linux Kernel. Does that mean the
: new Amiga OS will run on my PC or do I have to buy a Amiga computer?
The new devel machines that where slated to come out later this year are
supposed to be X86 machines. So yes, you should be able to.
The original OS partner was supposed to be Qnx, I guess Amiga Inc went
withthe more popular/cheaper Kernel.
--
Dave.-- The email address above does work :)
A yer ago I kudnt spel Sistum Admnistratur; now i R won.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Memory hogging, and dpms
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 11:26:50 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mookie D. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for your explanation of this. What is the buffers memory being
> used for? Is that reclaimed automatically also?
> I've got a memory-intensive program I'm developing and need to
> understand. Recently discovered vmstat as a good way to see when
> thrashing starts, but could also use any tips people have on this.
it uses it for buffers. compare the time it takes to start something
big like xemacs to the second time you start it; if you have a reasonable
amount of memory it should start almost immed. (well, maybe xemacs is
a poor example). If your system is 'thrashing' then you need more
RAM for what you are trying to do. If you mean that you see your swap
being used, that's a good thing.
-ckm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gergo Barany)
Subject: Re: Too obvious to see?
Date: 11 Jul 1999 07:37:06 GMT
In article <7m7ufi$mba$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Gordon Anderson wrote:
>I have a new Linux installation on which I also created a small
>DOS partition. That partition does show up as mounted in linux.
>I can use MCOPY to put a text file on a dos-formatted floppy,
>but how do I do the same thing into that DOS partition. If I
>use the regular linux cp command, won't that damage DOS files
>in the DOS partition?
If it's mounted read-write, you can read and write to/from it without
having to fear any problems.
Gergo
--
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procedure is to scatter bleeding fish pieces around their boat, so as
to infest the waters. I would estimate that the primary food source of
sharks today is bleeding fish pieces scattered by people making
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documentary." So the divers have to somehow goad them into attacking,
under the guise of Scientific Research. "We know very little about the
effect of electricity on sharks," the narrator will say, in a deeply
scientific voice. "That is why Todd is going to jab this Great White
in the testicles with a cattle prod." The divers keep this kind of
thing up until the shark finally gets irritated and snaps at them, and
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From: Michael Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: any way to access MBR directly?
Date: 11 Jul 1999 08:22:28 GMT
I was running a dual boot setup with lilo in the MBR
and then decided to change things around so I went
ahead and formatted the drive. This wiped out both
the DOS and Linux partitions, but left the LILO
intact on the MBR. I eventually managed to "reset"
the MBR by installing DOS, then Win98, but I'm still curious
if there was a way to wipe out LILO manually?
If anyone wants to email a reply, please use ...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: bono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: anyone knows how to set bcast with ifconfig
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 07:24:07 GMT
hi:
I want to do ifconfig on eth0. I save in the man page I can do
ifconfig eth0 68.124.48.198 netmask 255.255.255.0 gw 68.124.100.1 up
Is this correct syntax? How can I set the bcast IP? Is there anymore
things need to set up in
the linuxconf tool? I had to skip the netcard detection from set up
because of a Dlink card.
I am using cable modem right now...
Also, if I want to set up 2 cards eth0 and eth1 where eth0 is a 3c905
connects fine to outside world and eth1 (the not so auto Dlink)
connects to peer or to hub, do I have to set up netmastkand etc for
eth1? or just the made up IP like 10.0.0.1 will work? assuming my peer
client is setting at 10.0.0.2? Or I need to still set up a netmast or
255.255.255.0 as well? Will that be difference between setting peer to
peer and using hub in the middle? I always hear Proxy server.. what
role will proxy server plays a part in this.. if applicable.
Sorry, I am really a newbie on this I hope someone can help me on
this...please be patient with me =)
Thanks,
Bono
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farouk Dindar)
Subject: Multiple Newbie questions
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 16:42:10 GMT
I am new to Linux.
I have Mandrax complete with KDE interface.
How do I add new programs to desktop?
I want to try Netscape Navigator
Is there a newxpress clone for Linux?
How do I change the video display resolution after
installation?
Is there is Windows 98 interface clone?
How do I install it?
Farouk Dindar
Win 98 user curious about Linux.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AGX)
Subject: my ppp does not work with kernel 2.2.x
Date: 11 Jul 1999 09:06:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi.
Upgrading from kernel 2.0.36 to kernel 2.2.3 and 2.2.10
my ppp connection to internet does not work well.
After ppp get connected and IP newgotiation is estabilished
i was ABLE to ping any host on internet
but i was UNABLE to get any socket connection.
I use to ping my most used web server, like www.linux.it
but using slrnpull, fetchmail, telnet and other network
utility the connection is never estabilished.
Any suggestions ?
The log say
"modprobe cannot load modules ^Pr"
^^^^^
?????????
Thanks in advance,
AGX
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux and Memory
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 02:55:10 -0700
> I'm running rh 6.0 on a P150 with 93 mb of ram. My system monitor is
> telling me that 90% of my memory is being used.
> I install "everything" during install, and there are quite a few daemons
> running, so I suspect this is the problem.
1) In redhat 6, you can turn these extra daemons off by running "setup"
2) I'm bored, so I'm going to go in to an overly-long explaination
90% of memory isn't really being used (especially on a 93 mb system).
AFAIK, Linux's basic memory mangement strategy is:
Put user programs in to RAM, but leave some RAM free so it doesn't have to
do alot of swapping immediatly to meet future memory requirements (like
starting another app). All left over RAM goes towards disk buffers (data
that hasn't been written to the disk yet, because the system is waiting for
an idle time to do it) , and the disk cache (which stores frequently access
parts of ones hard disk in RAM, for faster access). If Linux runs out of
memory, it will shrink the cache and buffers, and as a last resort swap out
part of programs that havn't been used in a while. A part of Linux (a
kernel thread, to be exact) named kwapd will swap these parts back in if
more free RAM becomes availible when the system is idle.
(The threshold at which Linux starts swapping out because of memory
contraints, and the threshold at which it swaps back in pages because of an
abundance of free memory are automatically tuned by Linux based on the
amount of RAM you have, or can be manually tuned using /proc)
So, your system will usually report 80% memory usage or more, because Linux
is trying to take advantage of the RAM as much as possible by doing things
like caching parts of the hard drive. The left over <20% is so Linux
doesn't have to swap out parts of memory immediatly if your system needs to
use more RAM.
On my 64mb RedHat 6.0 box (running GNOME, CD Player, Communicator, and
GnomeICU ) , the command "free" returns this:
total used free
shared buffers cached
Mem: 63240 61700 1540
11264 4193164 13096
-/+ buffers/cache: 49744 13496
Swap: 80636 0 80636
The top row broken down means:
-I have 63240 KB of memory left for user programs (daemons, X, netscape,
xmms, etc...), the cache and buffers
-I've used 61700 KB of this memory on programs, buffers, and the cache, and
I have 1540 bytes free
-11264 KB of this memory is shared memory (this can be ignored, its
irrelevant to the topic)
-4193164 is a bogus number, because I'm running a 2.3 version of the Linux
kernel, which has a recently reworked filesystem code. This will hopefully
fixed in later release, or maybe its free's fault.
-13096 KB of memory is used for the disk cache
The second row is what your really interested in:
Minus the space used by the buffers and cache, I've used 49774 KB of RAM,
and 13496 KB are free
The bottom says I have 80 megs of swap space, of which none is used.
Your syste monitor is probably reporting the memory used by all you apps
and daemons, plus the buffers and cache. This should be ignored because the
system will shrink the bufers and cache if needed.
I hope this clears things up.
Regards,
Bodnar42
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From: Michael McConnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hard disk troubles
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 1999 20:29:38 +0100
On 10 Jul 1999, Matthew W. Roberts wrote:
> >> Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that now when I first start the
> >> system I get the following error:
>
> [etc., etc., etc.]
>
> >
> >Personally... I would suspect bad RAM. Does this happen every single time?
>
> This happens whenever I have to hit the reset button because the Debian
> install program crashes. I haven't been able to get through the install
> yet without a system freeze.
Yup... check your CPU isn't overheating or your memory is working correctly.
Perhaps adding an extra wait state in the BIOS (or sowing own its access
slightly) may help.
> >Try getting a hold of memtest-86... seems to do a good job.
Still recommended. :)
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Red Hat 6.0 Available!]
Eridani Star System -- The Most Up-to-Date Red Hat Linux CDROMs Available
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From: Sander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Making an ICQ server
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 13:52:43 +0200
http://concepts.linuxberg.com/files/console/servers/gicqd-0.0.93.tar.gz
Paul Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Azfar Kazmi wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any ICQ daemon available? I looked at freshmeat.net but found
>> none stable. How can I make an ICQ box?
>>
>> I have provided a cache server to users and they connect to Internet
>> through that. Since they wish to use ICQ and Squid doesn't allow that
>> therefore I thought why I don't make my own box an ICQ server. Is that
>> possible? I have never used ICQ though. I even don't know how the clie=
nt
>> works.
>>
>> I am using Redhat 4.1 kernel 2.0.34
>>
>> --
>> Azfar Kazmi
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>Paul Anderson is right about ICQ having many security holes in it, and I=
CQ
>does not support secure transmition. I know of a non IQC compatible clon=
e
>(if that makes sense) called Teaser. The client is called Firecat. I don=
t
>know the URL so do a search on Freshmeat.
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