Linux-Misc Digest #996, Volume #18 Fri, 12 Feb 99 16:13:11 EST
Contents:
Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Extrernal CD-ReWritable ("Kerry J. Cox")
Re: Need help with hosed rpm database ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
re: Fonts/KDE/StarOffice ("David Boyd")
Re: netscape and realplayer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? ("Keith G. Murphy")
Re: plip and forwarding (delegado)
2.2.1 hands when accessing IDE CDROM (Leon Verrall)
Re: shell-init problems (Stefan Davids)
Re: first unix port to x86 (Matthias Warkus)
FreeBSD / Linux project (Donn Miller)
IMAP server for Linux ("Aaron Dershem")
Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march? (jedi)
Re: WANTED: Quality Control Info. (James Youngman)
Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must. (James Youngman)
Re: What is on this floppy? (James Youngman)
Re: Flush swap manually? (oak)
Re: Icons in KDE (Peter Polman)
Re: From RedHat to Slackware (Homer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs RedHat
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:51:53 GMT
On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 07:58:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sorry, this ISP (me) is all linux slakware for radius+tftp and RedHat
for Vdomains+email+news+database I would be doing more with slakware
but that machine is old and slow (pent classic 200 /w32 meg ram & 1
gig hd) News is 200MMX 20gig 64M Ram and www+mail is 200MMX 3 gig 64M
Ram
>I am an ISP looking to compare FreeBSD vs RedHat. I have heard that FreeBSD
>is faster at the networking level, but Redhat is much faster at the
>application level like databases. Can anyone acknowledge and also tell me
>your opinions of one vs the other. The main function of my servers is to host
>virtual domains and related services like email, shopping cart, database etc.
>
>
>Thanks !
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Jack :) Linux Admin
>"Off the keyboard, thru the ethernet, over the hub, past
> the router down the wire, ....nothing but NET!!"
>
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Extrernal CD-ReWritable
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:11:45 +0000
Howdy,
We just got a Phillips external CD-ReWritable kit here at work for
making backups of important data. Since I am the only one using Linux,
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for what type of
software I can put on my RedHat 5.2 Linux box so I can use it as well.
The model is a Phillips PCA363RW that is external and plugs into the
parallel port of a PC. What I really need to know is the following:
1) What application would be best suited for making audio and data
backups; i.e cdburn, cdrecord, etc?
2) Does anyone have any recommendations for getting it set up, or
problems they have encountered with this brand?
3) What kind of variables do I need to put into my kernel and do I
need to recompile it?
Thanks. I can't even afford an Iomega Zip Drive so I have never used
any sort of external data media before. Please go easy on me.
KJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Need help with hosed rpm database
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:40:06 -0500
> Dennis Putnam wrote:
>
> > Thanks for all that replied. Unfortunately, none of the suggestions
> > worked. Using the --force did install the files but the -e still says
> > the packages are not installed. Interestingly the 'rpm' GUI must be a
> > littel more tolerant. Although when I used it to delete packages it
> > told me there were errors and did not delete it, it did let the pakage
> > be displayed on the 'avaliable' display. I was able to install all the
> > packages that had missing or bad checksum errors. However, the rpm
> > databse is still hosed and all those packages still say they are
> > installed when using the -i option and not installed when using the -e
> > option. I don't know what the implications of this will be over time
> > as packages are updated, etc. I don't have a clue how to get the
> > database back in sync.
Did you try rpm --rebuilddb? That helped me in a similar situation one
time. But back it up first...
- Steve
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From: "David Boyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: re: Fonts/KDE/StarOffice
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 17:18:03 -0000
I'm trying to use StarOffice instead of MS Office. The only problem I'm
coming across is the fonts - they look awful. Are there any vector font
solutions/True Type font support? Also where's a good source for Linux
fonts?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: netscape and realplayer
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 16:17:50 GMT
You seem to have misunderstood my post as well. I already have the
stand-alone real player working. If I click on a .rm file, real player DOES
launch, and I can see/hear the file. My problem is with the plugin, for when
the .rm file is EMBEDDED in the code. Therefore, I need the plugin to load
within the page itself, not the stand-alone. As stated above, the stand alone
is configured (and that's where I used the %s you're talking about). However,
the installation instructions show that once you copy the files to the
directories, it should activate the "plug-in" list box under the helper
applications. See the .html help file that comes with the Linux Real Player.
It shows this on the illustrations quite vividly. My list box doesn't not
show this...the plug-in box remains shaded and inactive.
In other words, I don't want the file to start playing in it's own window, but
play right in the web browser...hence the word embedded. :)
Thanks for your reply...
Eric
>
> And if that doesn't work, try %s
>
> > > I'm trying to install the real player plug-in for netscape. I've followed
the
> > > documentation verbatim, but it's still not working, so I came here for
help.
> > > I've gotten the stand alone to work fine, and it plays the welcome.rm
> > > perfectly.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev
> """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> "We're from the Government. We're here to help."
>
>
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:40:49 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeremy Crabtree wrote:
>
> Keith G. Murphy allegedly wrote:
No, I swear I really wrote it. The whine is mine. :-)
[cut]
> >And Netscape mail on Linux uses an inconveniently large font that I
> >don't seem to be able to change.
>
> Look for Netscape.ad in the directory where you install it. Look for the
> relevant section, then clip it and put it in ~/.Xdefaults.
>
> >Does anyone have any tips on how to change the size of TrueType fonts
> >for web pages? (I'm using xfstt). The combo box in Netscape that
> >should let you select the font sizes just sticks at 0 for the TrueType
> >fonts.
>
> See above.
>
Thanks for the tip. Sounds rather like a case of RTFM, embarrassingly
enough! <|:-O
> [SNIP]
>
> --
> "Being myself a remarkably stupid fellow, I have had to unteach myself
> the difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts
> that are not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
That seems quite relevant in this case. Thanks for presenting me with
the part that is not hard. ;-)
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From: delegado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: plip and forwarding
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 18:52:13 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ben Russo escribi�:
> delegado wrote:
>
> > I use plip to connect my laptop to my server. The server has an
> ethernet
> > conection to
> > Is there a possible solution without using ip_masquerading? How can
> I do
> > to make the server forward the packets to laptop transparently?
> What distribution of Linux is the server running?
>
Both are running Debian 2.0
> Are the LAN machines on a switch or a hub?
Yes. But they are in the same subnet 138.100.72.0
>
> What is the IP address of the Server?
138.100.72.200
>
> What is the IP address of the Laptop?
138.100.72.198
>
> What is the Default Gateway of the Laptop?
with IP Masquerading I use 138.100.72.200 because it is connected to the
server (pointopoint)
>What is the Subnet of the Laptop?
138.100.72.0
> The simple answer with a pain in the ass solution is to add a static
> route
> to all of the machines that are on the network that want to see the
> laptop.
>
The other machines are WINNT... Is possible to add the route in NT as we
do in Linux?
>The route would be to the Laptop's IP address with the Server's IP
address
> as the gateway and a netmask of 255.255.255.255.
>
> The correct answer with an easier (but more technical) solution is
> to enable IP Bridging on the server accross the two interfaces,
> or to enable IP forwarding on the server and establish a new subnet
> for the laptop and configure the routers on the network with
> a route to the server for that subnet.
The server has enabled IP forwarding in the kernel but I don't know if I
have to
execute arp or routed or something
I would like the the laptop has an IP of the subnet but if I establish a
new subnet
and I configure the router (executing routed -s or routed -q and adding
the laptop network) the other machines can reach the laptop?
I'm sure that one machine from outside the subnet can not.
Thanks
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From: Leon Verrall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.1 hands when accessing IDE CDROM
Date: 12 Feb 1999 16:51:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've been using 2.2 since pre-1 was released and haven't had a problem up
until about 2.2-final. (now using 2.2.1).
Whenever I access my IDE CDROM the machine completely hangs. After a few
atempts I managed to get
hdd: lost interrupt
on the console.
Looking at the code I assume it's stuck at a spinlock here in ide.c
if (hwgroup->poll_timeout != 0) { /* polling in progress? */
spin_unlock_irqrestore(&hwgroup->spinlock, flags);
handler(drive);
} else if (drive_is_ready(drive)) {
printk("%s: lost interrupt\n", drive->name);
spin_unlock_irqrestore(&hwgroup->spinlock, flags);
handler(drive);
} else {
etc.
The machine's a PII 333 with an AOPEN 440LX M/B, Aopen 36X CDROM. It works
fine under 2.0.3?
Any kernel types have any ideas?
Leon
--
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Secondline Software Support / Station Rd., Theale, RG7 4RA
Any opinions expressed are those of the authour and not SGI.
Any opinions expressed are probably wrong anyway...
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From: Stefan Davids <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shell-init problems
Date: 12 Feb 1999 18:50:24 +0000
>>>>> "Steven" == Steven Blair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Steven> Whatever help I can get is greatly appreciated. My system
Steven> is a default server install of Red Hat 5.2 on a 133
Steven> Pentium, 128 MB RAM, 4 GB SCSI HD and dual homed for
Steven> masquerading.
Steven> The system has been running well for several months until
Steven> I installed a new version of lib.so.1 by RPM. Whether this
Steven> was the causal event, I don't know, but the problem
Steven> occurred immediately after.
What do you mean by lib.so.1? This could be sort of crucial if it's an
important system library.
If I were you I'd back this `upgrade' out straight away; the fact that
this problem started immediately after installing it strongly suggests
it screwed something up badly. Was it an official Redhat RPM or a
contrib RPM?
Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: first unix port to x86
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 18:20:05 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 09 Feb 1999 23:00:12 +0000...
..and James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
>
> > It was the 7 Feb 1999 19:38:30 -0500...
> > ...and Alexander Viro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In article <Capv2.8869$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Martin Doehring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >When did that come out? I have a "True Blue" copy of PCIX that's
> > > >dated 10/83. It's System III and runs on the 8088 (yes, an XT).
> > >
> > > Shrug... Sorry, I've messed substraction up - Xenix goes back to 81 (maybe
> > > some pieces are earlier than that), so it's 10 years, not 8. It's a direct
> > > descendant of v7.
> >
> > Hum, how does a Unix work on a machine without an MMU?
>
> The same way it worked on the machine on which Unix was developed.
> Without memory protection.
Spawn me XTerms.
No segfaults, then?
mawa
--
Back in the dark ages BC (Before Computing), there existed a magical
device called a Teletype Model 33. This amazing machine contained a
shift register out of a motor and a rotor as well as a keyboard ROM
consisting solely of levers and springs. -- Steve Oualline
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From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: FreeBSD / Linux project
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 12:28:52 -0500
A long time ago, there was this thread about FreeBSD vs. Linux. Then
some days later, someone changed the title of the thread to "why don't
they merge?" The whole idea, though impractical, was that the two camps
should stop duking it out and "merge". Let's take this idea and think
it out awhile...
What if there could be a project devoted to creating a new OS, composed
of FreeBSD --> Linux? We could have developers from both camps working
together. The main problem is what features would you like from both
OSes put into this new, "Super Free UNIX"? The problem would be making
incremental adjustments to this new OS, since Linux development
(especially kernel devel.) tends to change more rapidly than FreeBSD,
and tracking changes made to both OSes to merge into this "new" OS could
be quite a chore.
You could still have the separate OSes, FreeBSD, Linux, but the
knowledge gained from putting the two OSes into one will help out
FreeBSD, Linux individually. I would suggest a development structure
based loosely around the FreeBSD "core team member" concept. What do
you think about this?
Donn
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From: "Aaron Dershem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: IMAP server for Linux
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 13:16:37 -0600
Does anyone out there know of a good IMAP4 server for Linux? I'd like to
start getting my feet wet with it rather than POP3.
Thanks!
Aaron Dershem
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jedi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux: Fight for survival or on victory march?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 10:01:48 -0800
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999 14:06:18 +0000, Timothy Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jedi
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>On 08 Feb 1999 13:58:39 +0000, Graham Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>In alt.os.linux, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>>
>>>> What Netscape is this. Mine seems to look and act indentical to windows.
>>>> There is 1 difference, no 2. It runs faster and doesn't crash.
>>>
>>>3. Netscape 4.5 on windows "auto-completes" entries typed into the
>>>URL. On linux it does not and you have to type in the complete URL.
>>
>> This is as much of a nuisance as it is a help half of the
>> time so the net effect averages out to about zero.
>
>If the autocomplete were done using some key combination then it could
>be useful (cf. tab completion in sea shells)
Still... half the time the completions are a mismatch.
This can be especially annoying when the url or command
is 'invalid' and you have a frozen app window in the
middle of the desktop.
--
Herding Humans ~ Herding Cats
Neither will do a thing unless they really want to, or |||
is coerced to the point where it will scratch your eyes out / | \
as soon as your grip slips.
In search of sane PPP docs? Try http://penguin.lvcm.com
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WANTED: Quality Control Info.
Date: 11 Feb 1999 22:12:27 +0000
Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Anybody got any info or links to info on Quality Control which I can put
> in Gary's Encyclopedia? It seems that QC gets little consideration in
> the OSS world. At least when compared to some other worlds I've known.
Try "Software Engineering", not "Quality Control".
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for nice editor, FTP a must.
Date: 11 Feb 1999 22:22:32 +0000
Chad M. Townsend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I am looking for a editor like 'Codewrite for win95'. The most important
> feature I need is the ability for it to be able to FTP files in and out. Like
> BBEdit for Macs, anyone see anything like that?
> Does emacs do that?
Yes. See "ange-ftp" in the documentation.
It will also tell you what the time is (western or Mayan calendars),
remind you that it's your wife's birthday, remind you *again* that
it's your wife's birthday, and that you really should go home now,
have several windows open on machines several thousand miles apart,
play Sokoban, syntax-highlight your code, hide copyright statements in
edited code, hide the code inside inactive #ifdefs, provide code
navigation, word completion, and bracket-balancing, send email, read
Usenet news, automatically update change logs, transparently handle
source code control systems, warn you when your laptop battery is low,
highlight the differences between versions of files, edit tar files,
simulate Conway's Life (someone has to have one), play an adventure
game, drive TeX, make fun of the NSA, and provide tailored modes for
several dozen programming languages.
Oh, and take up lots of disk space.
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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is on this floppy?
Date: 11 Feb 1999 22:13:03 +0000
Michael Talbot-Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi. Does anyone know of a program that will look at a floppy and
> make some guesses as to whether or what file system is on it?
cat /dev/fd0 | file -
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From: oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Flush swap manually?
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 19:58:07 GMT
This doesn't seem t be the case because last time my system used swap I
exited all my memory extensive applications and swap was still
being used according to "free" AND my hard drive light stayed on!
As for sync it only flushes RAM memory that needs to be written to disk, it
doesn't flush stuff in RAM entirely. There appears to be cache and buffers in
RAM which still hang around after sync.
I need to have RAM and swap in the same pristine state they were in when I
first booted the system.
Thanks,
-Tony
Norm Dresner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whoa. Swap space is used as an extension of physical RAM to form the
> virtual memory space for _running_ programs, daemons, etc. There's no way
> you can accurately say that you don't intend to use what's in swap space
> unless you don't intend to use some running process, in which case you can
> simply terminate it (or kill it if it has no user interface).
> As for buffers,
> man sync
> Norm
> oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
> <BKIw2.52$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Anyone know how I can manually flush swap?
> > I know people say that the system is smart and will do it on it's
> > own, but that sometimes doesn't happen when running a lot of
> applications.
> > For example, when I'm working with serveral gigabytes of
> > multimedia files I'll sometimes find that swap is
> > being used, but when I want to go back and work on other things that
> > don't require a lot of memory usage I find that there's
> > a lot of stuff still in swap and my hard drive works harder than usual.
> > Most troubling is my hard drive's red light
> > which STAYS on, even when the hard drive isn't being accessed!
> > There's no way the system can know that I don't intend to work on
> > anything it has saved in swap, there's no way
> > the system can know that I'm going to use a whole new set of
> > applications so it makes good sense in such cases
> > to clear out swap manually.
> > The same can be said with memory in ram. Anyone know how I could
> > flush ram so that there's nothing in the buffers?
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From: Peter Polman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Icons in KDE
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 1999 11:02:32 -0800
Sounds like you set up your link improperly.
What I did was copy all the icons from the /usr/share to opt/kde/share
(renaming all duplicates) and then set up all usr links to point to that
directory. Worked like a charm, except now my icons folder is huge. I also
copied icons from several other window managers (AfterStep, WindowMaker,
etc) to this location. All I'm missing now is a few icons for specific apps
such as WordPerfect.
"Steve D. Perkins" wrote:
> Hmm... weird.
>
> Earlier today while looking for an icon file, I stumbled across the
> "/usr/share/icons" directory... which I didn't even know was there (it's
> been so long since I've used X without KDE, there's probably oceans of
> stuff like this I've never bothered to learn!). I thought that some of
> these icons were so much better than ones I was using that I had to
> incorporate them... so I set a symbolic link to that directory in the
> place of the user's KDE icons directory (in my case,
> "/home/steve/.kde/share/icons"), so that I could use them without
> messing up the standard KDE set in "/opt/kde/share/icons" or having to
> move them from the shared X directory (in case I ever decide to try a
> different window manager).
>
> ANYWAY... after that I was all happy, except that a couple of weird
> things started happening. Mainly, the folders on my desktop were now
> represented by this really simplistic and ugly folder icon... the
> nice-looking KDE folders were gone. After tinkering around, I found
> that this was what "folder.xpm" from the "/usr/share/icons" directory
> looks like... ordinarily folders are represented by an icon by the same
> name in "/opt/kde/share/icons".
>
> I tried changing the icon back to the one from the main KDE set, but
> it said that this was what it was already set for. Finally, just for
> the hell of it... I overwrote the "folder.xpm" file from
> "/usr/share/icons" with the one from "/opt/kde/share/icons". After
> that, it was back to normal again!
>
> I was wondering if anyone else has seen something like this before,
> if perhaps it might be a bug in KDE. I'm also trying to figure out why
> the "logout" icon on the virtual-desktop-switcher-thingy at the bottom
> of the screen has changed from normal to some tan-colored squigly
> thing... but I guess that's another story for another day!
>
> Steve
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From: Homer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: From RedHat to Slackware
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 22:42:43 +0100
To my opinion Slackware is more easy to install then Redhat.
In Slackware you also get the helpful scripts that Redhat lacks
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