Linux-Misc Digest #100, Volume #21 Tue, 20 Jul 99 18:13:08 EDT
Contents:
hook a normal printer directly up to a network? (Gaiko Kyofusho)
Reading KERNEL_INFO ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Debian /etc issues (Alex Yung)
Re: turn a computer into a network hub? (Alex Lam)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Shortcomings of Linux? ("John Chandler")
looking for xagent (Roger)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Greg Yantz)
Re: turn a computer into a network hub? (Luca Filipozzi)
Re: newbie wants advice (Leonard Evens)
reponse immediate si WP8 ("dan ou jeff")
turn a computer into a network hub? (Gaiko Kyofusho)
Re: HP false advertising!!!! ("Mike Smith")
Re: kernel compile anamolies (Monte Phillips)
Re: turn a computer into a network hub? (dkwok)
Re: No email to AOL (brian moore)
Re: newbie wants advice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (UPDATE!) (Monte Phillips)
DOS Shell? (Daniel Forester)
Re: Using dlopen/dlsym with C++ under Linux (Dietmar Kuehl)
Re: 57600 possible, or spd_hi necessary? (Michael Uemminghaus)
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From: Gaiko Kyofusho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: hook a normal printer directly up to a network?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:01:28 GMT
I was wondering if there was a way that I could hook a normal (hp desk
jet model ???) directly to my home network (consisting of 1 winnt box
and 2 linux boxes) without having to hook it directly to one of the
computers? (I admit that it would be for purposes of convenience
<arranging the network ing the house> not necessity, for those that
might ask "why")
-Gaiko
Gaikokujin Kyofusho
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Reading KERNEL_INFO
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:15:20 GMT
How can I read the messages labeled 'KERN_*' in
linux/arch/i386/kernel/setup.c at boot ?
I tried passing 'debug' argument to lilo, modifying /etc/init.d/sysklogd
to specify '-c 7' for klogd, but nothing particular happens.
Am I missing something important ?
tia.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alex Yung)
Subject: Re: Debian /etc issues
Date: 20 Jul 1999 20:00:12 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ashley W Campbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: In a feat of unmitigated stupidity, I overwrote my debian /etc directory
: with a NetBSD /etc directory. As a result, my machine is most unusually
: configured. It boots and networks (almost) properly, but it's very very
: wrong.
: Would someone please send me a listing of the contents of the debian /etc
: directory? That would be very much appreciated. It would be even more
: helpful if I could find a pointer to those files and their contents on the
: internet. I haven't been able to find anything like that on
: www.debian.org.
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/main/disks-i386/current/base2_1.tgz
This will give you the base files.
ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/slink/Contents-i386.gz
This contains the listing of all packages so that you know whether you
missed any files since no one knows what you installed.
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From: Alex Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: turn a computer into a network hub?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 12:38:11 -0700
Gaiko Kyofusho wrote:
>
> Hi, I was told that computers (with enough network cards) can be made to
> act like network hubs in linux but I have not been able to find any
> information on how to do this <assuming it really is possible>. If
> anyone could point me to some information about this I would really
> appreciate it!
>
> -Gaiko
>
It's possible, but it'd be cheaper, and easier to config with a real
hardware hub.
Unless you already have a bunch of network cards around, and still,
you're limited to how many slots you can use in your computer.
A small, 5-8 ports 10Mb hub can be had for about $45US.
Alex Lam.
> Gaikokujin Kyofusho
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:15:57 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the 19 Jul 1999 20:52:01 GMT...
..and Stefaan A Eeckels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nah. We're part of this world. We're from this world, just
> as much as virusses, bacteria, cats, and peanuts. Our
> intelligence is part of nature. Obviously, we do things
> differently from cats, but that doesn't make us any less
> "natural". The cities we build are no less part of nature
> than the cities built by termites, or bees.
>
> The sooner we get rid of the human/nature divide we've carried
> with us since the Bible, the better.
So you think we should start to prey upon and devour each other, that
we should stop thinking intelligently, that we should let instincts
rule our lives completely?
You're making a ridiculous proposition.
mawa
--
Sack of rice tipped in China.
Film at 11.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:44:00 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:03:29 +0600...
..and U. Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Phil Ward wrote:
> > Erm, is this supposed to be a Linux group or a political group.
> Don't be boring. Linux is ridden with politics. Go check out salon.com,
> see how the Two Fatsos--Stallmann and this other 'evangelizing' Erik guy
> are bashing each other. Tweedledee and Tweedledum they are. I root for
> Stallman, how about you? This Erik Bazaar (I can never remember his
> name) seems rather unitelligent...
At least Stallman has written non-negligible amounts of relevant code
in his life.
mawa
--
I know I am only raising questions without answering them, but the
answers are not that easy, at least not until one has formulated the
question better.
-- Jim Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "John Chandler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Shortcomings of Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: 20 Jul 99 20:20:57 +0000
> Watch out, we might see a BSD vs Linux flame war break out in an AMIGA
> nesgroup. I think thats a sign of the end.
No probs. Although I'm inclined towards the BSD side of things, I'm
warming to Linux (Debian 2.1) after two and a half weeks of using it
at work as my main OS (I only reboot into Windoze to check Lotus Notes
every other day). It's quite a nice OS.
> BSD is a great rock solid OS but suffers from one bad thing. The name. BSD
> sounds like either a sexually transmitted disease or a bowel movement. Linux
> fans usually like BSD and all but can't quite place why they do not run it.
> My guess is that the name alone is the cuase: Bee-Ess-Dee. PLease don't
> flame me for this, I'm being honest and not sarcastic. At work, I'm begging
> them to use a BSD based ftp server instead of our Linux 2.0 one.
Reminds me of the entry in the glossary of "Programming Perl":
"BSD: A psychoactive drug, popular in the 80s, probably developed at
UC Berkeley or thereabouts. Similar in many ways to the prescription
only 'System V', but infinitely more useful. (Or at least more fun).
The full chemical name is 'Berkeley Standard Distribution'."
:-)
A lecturer from my university days once said that two things came out
of Berkeley: UNIX and LSD. There is a link. ;-)
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger)
Subject: looking for xagent
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 99 19:53:44 GMT
Hi all,
is there an "official" developper or download site for the xagent nntp news reader?
TIA
Roger
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From: Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 20 Jul 1999 16:49:54 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> It was the 19 Jul 1999 15:57:40 -0400...
> ..and Greg Yantz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Men are not animals.
> > Oh, yes they are. Where *did* you grow up, boy? Some of us like to think
> > that we are very special animals, because we can do things that no other
> > animals can (so far as we know); that we are blessed with self-awareness.
> See below.
See below.
> > > > Humans most definitely *are* animals. Thinking that we're
> > > > somehow special WRT the rest of wht lives on this planet
> > > > is a dangerous form of hubris.
> > Forgetting that humans are animals, that people also have an animal
> > nature, is just very *dangerous*. Period.
> I do not forget it. Full stop. (What does `period' mean?)
You seem to.
The "period" is a way of emphasing that my statement was unqualified.
Pardon, it's an American English thing.
> > > Nonsense. No matter how you argue, you won't get around the fact that
> > > humans are capable of reasoned and abstract thought and that animals
> > > don't.
No, animals eat and breed and try to stay warm and dry. That describes
us pretty well.
> > We have hunger and lust. We're animals. Until we get rid of those,
> > we're animals. We can try to not let our animal natures rule our
> > activites, however.
> This is exactly why we are not animals.
Until we remove the urges to eat and breed and stay warm and dry, and
live solely by reason and abstract thought, we will be animals.
> > Where *did* you grow up, boy? You watch too much Star trek.
> As a matter of fact, I don't watch Star Trek at all.
You seem to be very idealistic, and have a poor knowledge of actual
history.
> Staying at the subject, if you don't agree with this statement, please
> explain to me why cultures tend to always come up with something
> equating the `golden rule' independent of each other...
If reason and cooperation are such intrinsic aspects of human nature, *all*
cultures should have their own version of the golden rule, and they don't.
Humans across a wide range of cultures may have recognised and may share
common ideals, but they are just that- ideals.
You are right when you say that a necessary aspect of any society is
cooperation, and that cooperation is a key reason to form a society at
all. However, things tend to work out a little bit differently in
practice. Most societies and cultures have been characterized much
more by greed, violence, exploitation and the use and abuse of power
to create elite groups that enjoyed favorable economic and reproductive
conditions than by overt cooperation.
> > > Of course that is based on human nature. You obviously misparsed me.
> > > We should base our systems on human nature, not on false and
> > > overgeneralising assumptions about human nature. Got me?
Or on overly optimistic pictures of human nature that fail to take
certain unpleasant realities into consideration.
> > That's a nice sentiment. You should pay attention to it. You, a German,
> Oh, how nice, a domainist. (I'm ignoring the hidden insult.)
There's only the most general of insults there. I was pointing out your
ironic lack of historical perspective. Half of my ancestors left Germany
around the turn of the century. There's nothing inherently wrong with
being German.
[N-word snipped]
If I'd wanted to use the N word I would have. I should have been more
specific- I was hinting at the whole period covering the latter half
of the 19th and first half of the 20th Centuries.
However, if you insist, I'll add that National Socialism was the direct
enemy of logic and reason and abstract thought.
> > It's something you have to accept and guard against.
> What do you think we're doing? Now already most of the fUSAmericans
> talking about politics in the newsgroups look incredibly naif to me,
> oversimplifying wherever they can... it's a good thing our nation is
> traumatised, because it at least makes us think. Maybe the US should
> be traumatised, too. I don't know.
Hey, you're the one who claims humans aren't animals. Come to America
and get caught in a traffic jam, or go into a bar anywhere and hit on some
guy's girlfriend, and you'll learn soon enough that reason and abstract
thought have shallow roots and are easily shed, and underneath is a cunning,
dangerous animal.
I'll spell it out for you, with a bad automotive analogy. (a cola favorite :)
In the US, we have companies that give nifty land-sea rides for tourists in
vehicles called "ducks". A "duck" is basically a truck, where the body of
the truck is specially made to be a boat hull, and there's a propeller
between the rear wheels, so it's also a boat. Now, you may say, it has a
bouyant hull and a propeller, it's a boat. But it still has wheels and axles
and will run you over very nicely in traffic if you're not paying attention
to that *boat* driving down Boylston Street. It's still a damn truck, too.
We may not be *mere* animals, but until we make our flesh obsolete we're
still going to be animals.
-Greg
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luca Filipozzi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: turn a computer into a network hub?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:36:02 -0700
In article <7n2kdj$6mf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hi, I was told that computers (with enough network cards) can be made to
> act like network hubs in linux but I have not been able to find any
> information on how to do this <assuming it really is possible>. If
> anyone could point me to some information about this I would really
> appreciate it!
You have two choices:
1) buy "hub" cards, which are real hubs and only use an ISA slot for
power - five ports in one isa slot; nothing to do with Linux
2) install "ethernet" cards and use bridging to make your Linux box into
a switch (not a hub)
read the bridge + firewall howto for information about bridging
Luca
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Luca Filipozzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie wants advice
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 14:36:31 -0500
Anon User wrote:
>
> Hi all -
>
> I am thinking of switching from Windows 98 to Linux, and am now in the
> "finding out" stage. I have some questions.
> 1. Is Linux really as stable as people say it is?
We have something like 20 Linux machines which never crash
except when there is a hardware problem. Occasionally
a machine will crash because of misconfiguration. Our Suns
crash all the time, and Windows seems to crash if you look
at it funny.
> 2. Can I find a wide choice of applications that run on Linux?
Not as wide as you would find for Windows, but getting better all
the time. An example: you get gimp---a substitute for Photoshop
---for free.
> 3. If so, are they affordable (compared to their Windows-based
> counterparts)?
Applixware, an office suite comparable to MS OFFICE---but not
as glitchy---sells for about $80. But there is another free
suite called Star Office.
> 4. What are the disadvantages of using Linux?
You could have problems setting it up with your particular hardware,
particularly if it is the latest thing. But you can very likely
find someone who has just that hardware and managed to get
everything to run. People post web pages giving instructions
on what to do. We have yet to fail to get Linux running on
a machine. If you want to take full advantage of its capabilities,
you need to learn something about Unix and systems programming.
> 5. What is the minimum home PC for which linux is recommended?
It will certainly run on machines that Windows 98 would not.
> 6. What else does someone like me need to know?
You should be aware that the Linux community is out there to
help you for free. You won't be stuck trying to get answers
from a commercial vendor who will keep you on the phone for
hours and in the end not help you.
>
> Many thanks to all who answer.
>
> Ted Shoemaker
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "dan ou jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reponse immediate si WP8
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:53:04 +0200
mon ordi est emball� , on me donne une personal laserwriter question
dois-je l'emporter? = wp8 a-t-il le pilote necessaire ?
merci d�part incessamment sous peu
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From: Gaiko Kyofusho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: turn a computer into a network hub?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 19:58:52 GMT
Hi, I was told that computers (with enough network cards) can be made to
act like network hubs in linux but I have not been able to find any
information on how to do this <assuming it really is possible>. If
anyone could point me to some information about this I would really
appreciate it!
-Gaiko
Gaikokujin Kyofusho
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From: "Mike Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: HP false advertising!!!!
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 16:46:34 -0400
David J. Topper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey folks,
>
> I've already posted once before about my lame experience with HP and
> their OMNIBOOK line. Basically, they shipped me the wrong unit and took
> their sweet time about doing it (eg., no next day air).
>
> Here's the kicker. Check out the following web page:
>
> http://www.hp.com/omnibook/
>
> It says the machines are available with the new 400mhz processor. Well
> that's a bold faced lie! I was just told by an HP sales rep. that they
> ARE NOT available with the 400mhz processor.
>
> Isn't that false advertising? Isn't that illegal? Do I (we) have a
> case? What's the deal?
Did you try returning the unit for refund, before you ran out and called
your lawyer? I'd say that, if they refund your money, your case isn't very
strong.
--
Mike Smith. No, the other one.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monte Phillips)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: kernel compile anamolies
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:37:37 GMT
Two words LOSE 2.2.5-15
get 2.2.9 or .10 and do your compiling 5-15 is just too weird to
fool with. Been there, done that.
J. Guy Stalnaker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I run 'make menuconfig', select my options, do
>
>make dep; make clean, make bzImage
>
>I follow RedHat instructions (in Getting Started manual) to rename old
>/boot files to allow for new files.
>
>I copy /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz
>
>I then run 'make modules', copy the old modules to a new dir: mv
>/lib/modules/2.2.5-15 /lib/modules/2.2.5-15-old, and then do 'make
>modules_install'.
>
>I altered /etc/lilo.conf to accommodate both the old kernel and the new
>one and then I restart.
>
>Problem: some of the config selections do NOT take. What I'm trying to
>do is compile my nic card into the kernel so it doesn't load as a
>module. For some reason kernel 2.2.5-15 has a problem finding the nic
>card. I have ONCE successfully gotten it compiled into the kernel (I
>have written down the lines from /var/lod/dmesg that clearly show the
>kernel finding the nic card with the correct IRQ and memory addresses).
>Yet, any slight alteration in the kernel compile config file
>/usr/src/linux/.config RESETS the nic card back to loading as a module
>(I'm not kidding). Right now I'm recompiling with module support
>disabled because after FIVE compile runs yesterday, this morning I
>watched the kernel boot and attempt to load the nic card as a module
>when I KNOW that the last compile run I did yesterday was based on
>config selections to ensure that the nic card was compiled into the
>kernel. This is the most bizarre behavior I've ever experienced in
>Linuxland.
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From: dkwok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: turn a computer into a network hub?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 15:45:32 +1000
These days hubs are so cheap I won't be bother.
Gaiko Kyofusho wrote:
> Hi, I was told that computers (with enough network cards) can be made to
> act like network hubs in linux but I have not been able to find any
> information on how to do this <assuming it really is possible>. If
> anyone could point me to some information about this I would really
> appreciate it!
>
> -Gaiko
>
> Gaikokujin Kyofusho
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (brian moore)
Subject: Re: No email to AOL
Date: 20 Jul 1999 21:07:18 GMT
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:50:41 -0700,
Roland Latour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I suddenly find I can't send email to my brother at AOL. I contacted
> my ISP. They directed me to www.qmail.org, which says:
>
> Having trouble sending mail to AOL? Getting "CNAME lookup failed
> temporarily" errors? AOL has done the unthinkable -- increased their
> DNS records beyond 512 bytes. Many Unix programs, qmail included,
> can only use DNS records <512 bytes. You can fix this (for qmail
> anyway).
>
> 'fix this' is a link to a patch. So I'm apparently stuck until either
> my ISP applies the patch, or AOL changes back (not likely).
Amazing. They know they need to install a patch but aren't doing so?
Looks like time to find a new ISP, eh?
> So I went looking for specs for DNS records. RFC883: Domain Names-
> Implementation & Specification, didn't seem to have any indication
> of a 512byte limit. Is this a genuine qmail bug? Or is AOL trying to
> pull a Microsoft? Thanks for any light you can shed on this.
There isn't such a limit. The usual 'limit' is the more-typical 1500
bytes (minus some overhead) of a UDP packet with the standard 1500 byte
MTU.
The 512 byte number was used by qmail because it "should be big enough" --
it's not.
--
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Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker | If He used Emacs, He'd still be waiting
Usenet Vandal | for it to load on the seventh day.
Netscum, Bane of Elves.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie wants advice
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:40:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Wueppelmann) wrote:
> >5. What is the minimum home PC for which linux is recommended?
>
> It depends on what you want to do with it. A 486/66 wiht 8MB of RAM
is
> about as low as I'd want to go for even a basic setup (I'm running
FreeBSD
> with a machine like that, and it really seems to suffer from a lack of
> RAM). In general, memory is probably worth more than CPU power...
Yes. Buy memory.
I started running Linux with X Windows on a 486/66 with 8 MB
RAM. The only application that wasn't happy in this environment
was Netscape, which ran, but took a minute of page swapping to
come up. An upgrade to 32 MB made the system run very well,
with very little swapping. I ran some legacy software on
Windows 95 on the same system - it ran, but was sluggish.
I now run Linux on a P233 MMX with 64 MB RAM. It flies!
--
Laura Halliday VA3LDH "Que les nuages soient notre pied
Grid: FN03gs a terre..." - Hospital/Shafte
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: 20 Jul 1999 17:56:02 -0400
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:44:00 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote:
>It was the Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:03:29 +0600...
>..and U. Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Phil Ward wrote:
>At least Stallman has written non-negligible amounts of relevant code
>in his life.
I'd hardly call ESR's contributions ( parts of ncurses, giflib, and fetchmail )
as well as the XFree86 video timings howto "negligeable". It's certainly
not as impressive as RMS's contribution, but it's a lot better than nothing.
Look at it this way: it's pretty hard to do much with linux if you don't use
ESR's software.
--
Donovan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Monte Phillips)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (UPDATE!)
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:19:30 GMT
Gabe,
Does that mena you are taking him off the xmas card list too?
(jes kiddin) duckin' & runnin'
BTW you realize that IBM doing the linux thing is the first time in
18 years they have made a move in a positive and TIMELY manner.
egads! another sign of armegeddon?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I don't know how many of you from the previous thread read Midrange
>Systems or have read the editorial by that fat popous ass named Chris
>Amaru. But his respones (in the July 19 1999 issue) to some of the
>letters he recived over his
>editorial just prove one thing. The man is an uninteligent, fat, popous
>ass who obviously is the most clueless individual on the planet.
>
>I guess IBM seems to think Linux is important enough! They put up a
>dedicated Linux development section on their developer domain last
>night! HURRAY for IBM!!! Check it out:
>http://www.ibm.com/developer/linux
>I don't know how a mainstream AS/400 magizine can keep an idiot like
>this as an editor-in chief. The man has no concept of reality. People
>should read his comments to those who wrote him. You will be appaled by
>the ignorance this man has. If anyone out there in the LInux world also
>subscribes to this magizine I am sure it will piss you off just as much.
> Me - personally I am telling them to CANCEL my subscription until such
>time they get someone for an editor that has a brain in his head not in
>his ass! I would suggest others dong the same thing, this would send a
>strong message to the magazine to cut off this mans fingers, we can't
>cut out his brain as he doens't have one to cut out!
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From: Daniel Forester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: DOS Shell?
Date: 20 Jul 1999 21:51:13 GMT
Hi, maybe this is the wrong place, but....
I guess I'm a newbie to linux, though am no stranger to UNIX and using a
shell account and what-not; administrating is the main thing I'm learning
right now with linux. Anyways, at work, and sometimes other places, I
need to use DOS... I've heard that there are other shells, perhaps one
close in the line of bash for DOS? I get @#%()*@#& tired of the subtle
differences (dir/ls, del/rm, etc) that invariably make one's life hell.
Thanks....
--
Daniel E. Forester
Georgia Institute of Technology
http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte061f/
The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets
the cheese.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dietmar Kuehl)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: Using dlopen/dlsym with C++ under Linux
Date: 20 Jul 1999 21:06:10 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
Richard Nairn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I am trying to use dynamic modules under C++ in linux. I can open the
: shared libraries fine, but where I run into problems is using dlsym, since
: the name gets mangled. Is there an easier way to do it, rather then have a
: call like test=dlsym(handle,"test__FiPPc");. I would like to be able to
: call the function without having to cut and paste out of the nm output.
Declare the functions as 'extern "C"'. If necessary, use the function
declared as 'extern "C"' just as a wrapper to the actual function.
--
<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<http://www.informatik.uni-konstanz.de/~kuehl/>
I am a realistic optimist - that's why I appear to be slightly pessimistic
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From: Michael Uemminghaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 57600 possible, or spd_hi necessary?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 23:24:40 +0200
Georg Schwarz wrote:
>
> Is it possible to directly declare the serial port speed as 57600, or is
> it still necessary to use setserial spd_hi?
> --
> Georg Schwarz ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], PGP 2.6ui)
> Institut f�r Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi
> Technische Universit�t Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
The spd_hi and spd_vhi options only
map speeds for older programs asking
for lower speeds by default. This
is at least my impression from looking
at the source trying to program my
winbond IO chip for fast and superfast
transfer modes.
If an old program asks for a certain low speed,
the port speed will be set higher.
If the program asks for the correct speed,
say 56700, the options are unnecessary.
BTW my highspeed attempts failed because
the Award BIOS seems to disable the extended
function registers. I intended to have 240 Kbit/s.
Michael
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