Linux-Misc Digest #100, Volume #19 Fri, 19 Feb 99 17:13:13 EST
Contents:
Re: Only root can create a file??? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Connect to Win98 PCs on MS Networks with "File and printer sharing (Lassi
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Rytel=E4?=)
Porting Xenix to Linux (Skip Lewis)
Re: a few questions (Matthias Warkus)
Re: .Tar/.gz question (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (John Hasler)
Re: Can Applixware open Micorsoft Word formatted files (i.e. .doc files)? (Karel
Jansens)
Re: does people use console or X ? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?) (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Always as root - is it dangerous? (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Screen Capture in Xwindows (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Seven layer OSI model of Linux users (Matthias Warkus)
Re: Bash-2.03 available for FTP (Shaun Lipscombe)
Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: setting the IRQ on the 3c589 (David Hinds)
Re: Can Applixware open Micorsoft Word formatted files (i.e. .doc files)?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WindowMaker 0.51.0 and RedHat 5.2 Problems (Stephen Kingston)
Re: Web access to email needed, Re: HTML and/or Java email client for LInux???
("Dennis Ponne")
Re: Using both outgoing pppd and mgetty on same system ("Keith G. Murphy")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: Only root can create a file???
Date: 18 Feb 1999 20:32:13 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Laurie Weibel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>I just installed RH Linux 5.1, and I seem to have a problem creating a file
>with any user account other than root. If I do....
> ls -al > outfile
>I get an error message: "ls: write error: no space left on device."
You are out of room on that partition. The error means what it says.
>The file is created, with a zero length. If I su to root, this command works
>and writes the file, so there IS room on the disk.
The file system reserves a little bit of extra space for root, so that
if the file system fills up, root can still rescue things. However if
you also fill up the root reserve, than you could well find yourself in
a place where even root cannot do anything-- ie reinstall time.
Do,
df
to see which file system is full. Then erase stuff (or move stuff) so it
is no longer full (< 100% used)
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From: Lassi =?iso-8859-1?Q?Rytel=E4?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Connect to Win98 PCs on MS Networks with "File and printer sharing
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 20:36:06 GMT
Hi
You should use Samba (ie program smbclient, which is similiar to ftp-program) to
get files from MS servers.
- Lassi
PS. There is a "new" book from SSC:Samba:Integrating Unix and Windows (ISBN
1-57831-006-7) which covers quite well all aspects of networks with mixed
Linux/M$ machines
John Wong wrote:
> Dear Linux World,
>
> Could somebody tell me how to connect to the computers under the same
> netmask? The network is running MS Network and many with MS File and printer
> sharing service. I wanna get files from the shared folders of these PCs.
>
> I'm using RH4.2 (kernel 2.0.35), network under dhcpcd TCP/IP (all the
> PCs in the network use dhcpcd).
>
> What application should I use and what should I do?
>
> Welcome any suggestions to this newbie.
> Regards
> John
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From: Skip Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Porting Xenix to Linux
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 15:07:33 -0500
I have a program which runs on SCO Xenix. I want to port it to
Linux. I have the original installation diskettes for the software.
I'd like to try installing in Linux. Any suggestions?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: a few questions
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:57:57 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:55:12 -0500...
..and Jason Gladish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i have a few questions for anyone willing to help me out.
> first i must tell you my computer came with no documentation or
> anything.
> i installed redhat linux 5.2 but i have s.u.s.e., debian, and slackware
> (i think those are the names)
Great. Try them if you don't like Red Hat.
> i have a modem (28.8 i think) how do i connect to the internet and do i
> have to have a certain type of ISP?
If it's not AOL, it should be OK.
> i have an 8x speed mitsumi cdrom, how do i look at and/or access its
> contents with linux?
Mount it. Have a look at some online documentation.
> redhat came with x windows but when i start it the resolution looks like
> it's 640 x 480, i want it to be 800 x 600. i have tried numerous times
> typing Xconfigurator and going through all the steps but it always stay
> 640 x 480. i might have something to do with the fact that i don't have
> a clue how much memory my video card has or that i don't have any idea
> what type of card it is (VGA, SVGA, or any of the other choices) not to
> mention the clockchip setting. is there any way i can find out all this
> info?
Hm, looking at the innards of your computer or into the innards of
your video card manual would be your best bet.
mawa
--
For in Georgian Bay, it is possible to imagine North America as it was
-- before the United States have began the murderous deceptions and
unthinking carelessness that have all but /spoiled/ it!
-- John Irving, _A_Prayer_For_Owen_Meany_
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: .Tar/.gz question
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:56:26 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:54:42 GMT...
..and [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm, you guessed it, a newbie to Linux, and for that matter, Unix. I have a
> question about .tar and .gz files. What is the difference between .tar.gz
> and a plain .tar file?
A .tar file (a "tarball") is an archive.
A .tar.gz file (a compressed tarball) is a compressed archive.
> I know they're compressed files, but is one an
> executable?Will it install automatically upon decompression?
Most likely, they will contain source code, configuration scripts and
Makefiles. You should be able to build and install them with a couple
of commands.
> Is there
> something like Winzip (sorry) with a GUI that will handle these files? Maybe
> a Linzip? hehe. I'm not afraid of the command line, but I have enough to
> remember as it is, and at my age...
All the popular file managers, such as the (Gnome) Midnight Commander,
kfm or FileRunner, will allow you to look "inside" a tarball. And BTW,
someone had the idea for the same pun before - I think there exists a
Linzip, but don't smack me if it's only alpha or not there at all. I
just remember the word.
mawa
--
I am willing to love all mankind, except an American.
-- Sam Johnson
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 17:59:51 GMT
Stephen J. Tremblett writes:
> I always assumed that was because the rpm/deb/etc packages are actually
> were contributed by the maintainer to the FTP site. There are hundreds
> of ftp sites that have Linux packages, and no real control over them, so
> maintainers often have more current versions on their personal web pages.
This is not true of Debian.
> The FreeBSD ports is managed a little differently in that there is ONE
> central 'contrib' place to get the official ports, thus the maintainers
> know that is the place to put the package.
And there is ONE official central place to get official Debian packages.
All 2200+ of them.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Reply-To: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
Subject: Re: Can Applixware open Micorsoft Word formatted files (i.e. .doc files)?
Date: 19 Feb 1999 18:57:04 GMT
On Fri, 19 Feb 1999 00:20:13, "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > Is the reverse also true? Will Microsoft Word and Excel open Applixware files?
>
> I doubt MS Office can open Applixware or StarOffice files. But, Star
> Office (and probably Aplixware -- I don't have it so can't really say)
> can save files in MS Office format.
>
I don't know about Star Office, but Applix reads MS Office 95 and 97 sort
of OK (fast-saved documents are definitely a show-stopper, but you'd have
to be stoopid to save important work like that anyway - IMHO).
I believe however, that Applix can only export to MS Office 9x via
RTF-format, which might limit things a tad.
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_ibm_dot_net
=======================================================
"Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day,
but set fire to him and he's warm
for the rest of his life."
(Terry Pratchett - Jingo!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: does people use console or X ?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:05:34 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 18 Feb 1999 01:42:15 +0100...
..and Finnskoga W�rdshus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am pretty new to this but I just wounder
> Does you people usually hang around in
> console mode or have you all instaled X?
I use console mode mainly for vim and slrn.
> Anoter one... If I install Xfree (X11 or wht it is called)
> vill I nead an extra prog ontop of that like KDE, Gnome
> or Windowmaker or is it the same..
You will need at least a window manager. Of course, a desktop like KDE
or Gnome gives you more glitz.
mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Best Free Unix? (why FreeBSD?)
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:03:55 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 18 Feb 1999 18:08:15 GMT...
..and DrBoom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Actually, it seems to me that the term "free" is deprecated these days
> in preference to "open source".
Till the day ESR walks up into my room, puts his fine-tuned Army Colt
against my head and makes me say "open source" under the threat of
putting one of his libertarian-anarcho-capitalist hardball rounds
through my brain, I will call free software what it is: free.
mawa
--
The utility of a fancy Web browser is damn near zero compared with the
utility of a really good text editor.
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Always as root - is it dangerous?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:59:15 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 18 Feb 1999 14:37:50 +0100...
..and Nils Westerlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I installed SuSE Linux 5.3 two days ago and I'm really impressed so far.
> After ten years in MSWindows-environment there are some things that are
> a bit confusing. Could it be "dangerous" to always log in as root? I
> don't want to re-login or su everytime I want to mount a zip or
> something like that, and therefore I always log in as root. How do you
> guys usually do?
NEVER log in as root. Use su, but only if you need to.
I can't even start to tell what the problems are if you run all-root!
Don't, don't, don't!!! (And I mean it.) For mounting your drives,
putting the "user" keyword into the appropriate line of /etc/fstab
gives ordinary users the right to mount or umount these.
mawa
--
I think the OS market will rather be like the Maglite market than the
Ford market.
-- mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Screen Capture in Xwindows
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:22:25 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:53:46 -0000...
..and Paul Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm running RedHat 5.2
>
> Does anyone know of any screen capture programs I can use to capture XWindow
> screenshots??
Use xwd, and then use ImageMagick or netpbm to convert the screendump
to any format you like. (NB there are probably 1,000 other ways to do
it.)
mawa
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Subject: Re: Seven layer OSI model of Linux users
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:24:03 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It was the Thu, 18 Feb 1999 11:11:41 +1300...
..and Enkidu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[schnibble]
ROTFL. This is great - it relates well to the layer nomenclature, too
:). Asking permission to chop up into .signatures.
mawa
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From: Shaun Lipscombe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Bash-2.03 available for FTP
Date: 19 Feb 1999 18:14:55 +0000
And I only installed 2.02 the other day aswell <sigh> :)
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Linux: The best things in life are free
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Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:58:55 +0000
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Can NT with NTFS coexist with RedHat Linux
I used to have Redhat 4.1 with NT, on a FAT disc. LILO was on the
FAT disc MBR, and it dual booted OK. This was a 1.6G disk.
After changing to Redhat 5.1, the same installation worked.
Then I changed to a 4 G disk, with a 2G FAT partition. Linux booted
OK, Win95 booted OK, Win NT booted - through the C drive - but then
said it could not use the C drive as the file system was unrecognised.
(Partitions on C were 2G DOS, 1G Linux and a swap partition).
Can anyone tell me why NT stopped seeing the C drive?
I agree with Eric about all NTFS being dangerous. Recovery is
much more complicated.
Roger
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Hinds)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: setting the IRQ on the 3c589
Date: 18 Feb 1999 20:56:58 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:
: can somebody tell me how to tell my 3c589 PCMCIA card to use a specific IRQ?
You do it indirectly, by indicating which interrupts are unavailable
in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts.
(you don't really need to tell the card to use a specific irq for it
to work: what's important is to tell it which irq's NOT to use)
-- Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can Applixware open Micorsoft Word formatted files (i.e. .doc files)?
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 20:44:33 GMT
Is the reverse also true? Will Microsoft Word and Excel open Applixware files?
> Applix works for most Office documents, up to Office 97. I've had it
> choke on a couple, but it mostly works. YMMV
>
> - Steve
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Kingston)
Subject: Re: WindowMaker 0.51.0 and RedHat 5.2 Problems
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 19:28:15 GMT
James H Timberlake III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>i just noticed that when i exit X windows, there is a message saying
>that windowmaker couldn't execute because either the path
>/usr/X11R6/bin/wmaker or /usr/share/WindowMaker doesn't exist. what
>would cause this? i followed the installation instructions to the word
>(as far as i know). am i forgetting something? what are the proper
>steps, just in case i'm not reading it right.
>thanks
I thought I posted this reply before but it seems to have got lost in
the ether...
Redhat 5.2 installs a default XClient that passes the value of your
wm_style to another script called RunWM. This script then attempts to
launch your choice of window manager, but if it fails it defaults
first to fvwm95, and then if that fails it tries fvwm.
For some reason, RunWM looks for wmaker (the WindowMaker executable)
in /usr/X11R6/bin. If you install the binary RPM the file will be in
/usr/bin, and if you compile your own version of WindowMaker then the
file will be in /usr/local/bin.
The solution is to create a symbolic link in /usr/X11R6/bin to the
executable (wherever it may be!)
I recommend compilation of WindowMaker, as I ran into a problem when I
tried the RPM version with the setstyle and getstyle executables (they
were linked against the wrong libraries or with the wrong compiler in
Redhat). I downloaded the source distribution, followed the
instructions in the README and it compiled first time and worked.
(There are other hints in the README about including /usr/local/bin in
your path and such like).
Regards,
Stephen.
--
Stephen Kingston
Personal URL : http://www.aber.ac.uk/~spk
Work URL : http://www.wirs.aber.ac.uk/
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From: "Dennis Ponne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Web access to email needed, Re: HTML and/or Java email client for LInux???
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 21:43:29 +0100
Check out http://www.cgi-resource.com
Greetings,
Dennis!
Cameron Spitzer heeft geschreven in bericht
<7ahlu4$rse$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Brett W. McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 18 Feb 1999 05:49:40 GMT, Cyrus Mehta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, is there some sort of email client that I can use in a web browser?
>>>I know its not ideal, but I am looking for a VERY lightweight client.
>>>
>>>Basically I want to see something kinda like HotMail.
>>
>>How is running a bloated browser lightweight compared to running elm or
>>mutt?
>
>I'm looking for the same application. Some of my users travel a lot,
>and need to access their mail from coin-op Web browsers at airports,
>shopping malls, friends' houses, public libraries, the lobby at 3Com
>corporate headquarters, and Kinkos stores. Public Web access facilities
>often do not include telnet or a mail client, or it can't be reconfigured
>to make them work. HTTP (and HTTPS) is sometimes the only thing that
works.
>
>
>And I haven't been able to compile IMAP-4.5.BETA yet.
> make slx EXTRALDFLAGS="-llibcrypt"
>dies with
>osdep.c: In function `checkpw':
>osdep.c:190: `PAM_ESTABLISH_CRED' undeclared (first use this function)
>
>It seems the names in /usr/lib/libpam.a don't match; adding -llibpam
>does not help. Any suggestions?
>
>Cameron
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From: "Keith G. Murphy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.dial-up,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Using both outgoing pppd and mgetty on same system
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 1999 16:01:31 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bill Unruh wrote:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder) writes:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
>
> >>I would like to use one of my machines both to dial out to another isp
> >>on and to be able to dial in to that machine from another one. (ie the
> >>one machine is, at different times, a client and a server for ppp)
> >>However if I run mgetty on my modem, (/dev/ttyS1) so it can answer the
> >>phone when I call in, and then run pppd to dial out, pppd refuses to
> >>connect to that modem port. (in fact gives that wonderfully unhelpful
> >>"your kernel may not have ppp" ubiquitous error message.) I also tried
> >>to have mgetty listen on /dev/cua1 and use pppd on /dev/ttyS1 and still
> >>had trouble.
>
> >Argh. Typical case of: Documentation_not_read_error .
>
> Aargh. Even more typical case of posting not read error.
>
> >All programs accessing the serial port have to be using ttyS* ,
> >which means that not only mgetty and pppd but "chat" as well
> >have to be configured to be listening to ttyS1 .
>
> No they do not. It is recommended but not mandatory. the use of things
> like /dev/cua* will probably be phased out in the future, but not now.
> However this is totally irrelevant since I did try to have both mgetty
> and ppp use /dev/ttyS1 (see the posting). It was only after that did not
> work that I tried to sneak around the problem by having one use cua and
> the other ttyS
> The problem is that if mgetty is listening at the port, pppd returns
> with the error (in /var/log/messages) that the tty port is busy, and
> then that ppp support may not be in the kernel. (That is pppd's standard error
> message when anything goes wrong).
>
> So, has anyone managed to get mgetty to listen on a port for incoming
> traffic, and at the same time used that same port as an outgoing pppd.
>
Yes, I have done it, quite successfully.
First, make sure mgetty works without pppd in the picture.
Then, make sure pppd works without mgetty in the picture.
To make them work together, you'll need to use the lock option for
pppd. Make sure they are both using ttyS<whatever> or cua<whatever>;
otherwise, they won't be able to coordinate on the lock file. Actually,
I use ttyS<whatever>, so you might want to stick with that to be safe.
Make sure you're getting good logs to help you debug. There are options
of mgetty and pppd for this.
What you should be seeing mgetty do is test out the line every hour. If
the line tests out, it tries to create and instantly release the lock
(/var/lock/ttyS<whatever>, IIRC). Any time you dial in, mgetty will
create the lock file and hold onto it until you disconnect.
pppd will also test for the lock and won't go any further if the lock
file is there. If it's not there, it should create it and hold onto it
until you disconnect from that side. The big question with your problem
is: Is mgetty keeping the lock around when it shouldn't (shouldn't be
there when it's just listening to the line), or do you have some other
problem with pppd?
If you get through all the stages I outlined and still have trouble,
don't hesitate to ask again.
Hope that helps!
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