Linux-Misc Digest #102, Volume #21 Tue, 20 Jul 99 22:13:11 EDT
Contents:
Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network? ("Terry Cox")
Re: DOS Shell? (Ethan A Merritt)
Re: tape backup device under Linux ("Robert C. Paulsen, Jr.")
I finally got X to work with my SIS 620 THANKS ! ("Allix")
Re: recommend mySQL guide/how-to for absolute clueless (Marc Mutz)
ARP / Proxy Arp - mapping IP to MAC ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: suse compilation problems (suse 6.1) (Charles Philip Chan)
How do you install new programs (Farouk Dindar)
Re: LINUX: Can't get ASUS P2B-DS to Recognize RAID for Redhat 6.0 (wizard)
Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network? ("Terry Cox")
Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network? ("Donald E. Stidwell")
Re: FTP Using KDE ("Gene Heskett")
Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network? (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: CIA assassinations (Michel Catudal)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Re: Initio SCSI help (Rod Smith)
Finding (and installing) up to date rpms ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (H.G. Hettinger)
Re: Making a privileged user (Coy A Hile)
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From: "Terry Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:06:18 -0700
You need to get that printer on the network. The easiest thing to do would
be to physically plug it into Linux or Windows machine. Or you can get an
external jet direct card and put it on the network. Put an IP stack on the
printer, and then you can directly print to the printer. Save yourself the
headache and the money; just plug it into your Linux machine.
Gaiko Kyofusho wrote in message <7n2kie$6pd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I was wondering if there was a way that I could hook a normal (hp desk
>jet model ???) directly to my home network (consisting of 1 winnt box
>and 2 linux boxes) without having to hook it directly to one of the
>computers? (I admit that it would be for purposes of convenience
><arranging the network ing the house> not necessity, for those that
>might ask "why")
>
> -Gaiko
>
>Gaikokujin Kyofusho
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ethan A Merritt)
Subject: Re: DOS Shell?
Date: 20 Jul 1999 22:41:30 GMT
In article <7n2r0h$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel Forester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I need to use DOS... I've heard that there are other shells, perhaps one
>close in the line of bash for DOS? I get @#%()*@#& tired of the subtle
>differences (dir/ls, del/rm, etc) that invariably make one's life hell.
I don't know of a shell, but you can use the gnu file utilities
(ls, rm, grep, find, ...) under DOS. I must admit that I can't remember which
ftp/web site I picked up the executables from, however. I don't see any
DOS executables on the gnu site itself.
Ethan A Merritt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Robert C. Paulsen, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: tape backup device under Linux
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 18:49:31 -0500
Matthew Hixson wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend a tape backup device for use under Linux? This is
> to go into a machine with an ASUS P2B-DS motherboard (supports SCSI).
> The machine is currently running kernel 2.2.6, but I can upgrade it if
> necessary.
> Any adivce is welcomed.
> -M@
I think there are two basic choices: Travan (NS-20 is the latest
and best), or DDS.
Travan drives are cheaper than DDS, but DDS tape is cheaper than
Travan. So your trade-off is between the price of the drive vs.
the price of the tapes. If your backups need to include lots of
long-term archiving you will need lots of tapes so your best bet
is probably DDS. If you have short-term needs (e.g. for disaster
recovery) then you can get away with fewer tapes used in a rotation
scheme and Travan will be cheaper.
I think most home users are probably more concerned with disaster
recovery and have relatively little data that needs long-term
storage (other than on a well backed up hard drive) so will probably
do better with Travan unless cost is not a factor. Even with Travan,
you can still do longer term archiving -- A single NS20 tape holds
*lots* of data.
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From: "Allix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I finally got X to work with my SIS 620 THANKS !
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:19:05 -0400
Surprisingly I found the answer on an Indian Linux page. Thank you folks for
all your help.
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Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 23:46:01 +0200
From: Marc Mutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recommend mySQL guide/how-to for absolute clueless
Isn't there a HowTO about that?
Marc
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ARP / Proxy Arp - mapping IP to MAC
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:23:11 GMT
IM trying to circumvent the APR process of mapping
IP's to MAC's (Ethernet) on a 2.2 RedHat box.
I have an Ethernet equipment device (serial I/O
expander) that does not have ARP capability.
It talks UDP packets. I want to "hard code" the
MAC address into my Linux system, to avoid the ARP
problem.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mark Thompson
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: suse compilation problems (suse 6.1)
From: Charles Philip Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Jul 1999 03:45:21 -0400
"A Nourai" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> out of curiosity has anyone else had problems compiling 3rd party software
> under suse (6.1). For me kernels compile fine, but with other programs
> including binutils (i need to compile my own special one to run some m68k
> assembly simulators) I get some strange errors. In particular xmkfm cant
> find its template confg file.
> i havent supplied any detail here. I'm just wondering if this happens to
> other people as it might point me in the direction to fixing the probs.
I am running SuSE 6.1 under a PC platform and have no problems
compiling 3rd party programs. I gathered from your message that you
are using a m68k port, I would suggest you to make sure that the
template files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config are still there and
contact SuSE.
Charles
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Farouk Dindar)
Subject: How do you install new programs
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 16:48:49 GMT
Hi
This is a newbie question.
I am in my windows partition and am downloading Star Office
I have been told how to mount my fat drive so that I can
see the drive from linux.
This is a tar file. (70 megs) How do I go about installing the
program?
Thank You
Farouk Dindar
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From: wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: LINUX: Can't get ASUS P2B-DS to Recognize RAID for Redhat 6.0
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 20:42:14 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Robert A. Hayden" wrote:
> I am in the process of setting up a new Redhat 6.0 server and I am having
> some problems getting it to properly boot from the hardware RAID array I
> have.
>
> SYSTEM SPECS:
>
> Motherboard: ASUS P2B-DS Dual PII mobo w/ on-board
> Adaptec 7890 Ultra2 Controller Built in
> Processors: 2 PII-400s
> Memory: 256MB
> DRIVE: 18GB RAID5 Array connected to a CMD external
> RAID controller (UltraWide)
>
> The installation recognized the RAID disk just fine as ID:0:0 and is able
> to install all the software. However, when I boot the RAID disck, I end
> up getting the following in LILO:
>
> "L 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20"
>
> I do have a 100mb /boot partion as /dev/sda1.
>
> I get the same results if I boot with a floppy.
>
> I am assuming that the issue is related to limitations in LILO's ability
> to address large hard drives and the way the 7890 controller addresses
> these large drives. However, Adaptec's support information stinks and I
> haven't an clue where to go next.
>
> FYI: The motherboard is running the latest BIOS.
>
> I would rather not add a stand-alone disk to boot off of, as IMHO that
> defeats the purpose of the RAID.
>
> Any thoughts on what to do next?
>
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=
> Robert Hayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN: 16570192
Robert
I'm not sure this will be of much help as I do not have a SCSI harddisk on
my P2B. The following may or may not help.
1. make sure the bios is set up correctly.
2. sounds like a hardware raid controller, you may want to make sure that is
also set up correctly. Since this is SCSI make sure the Cables and
termination are correct.
3. find the source to LILO and see if you can find out what might cause the
repeating "20"s
4. it does not apeear that LILO is even finding the boot partition so you
might want to double check that LILO and the RAIDs partition info match.
It probally would be helpful if you could post your LILO.conf file, someone
may be able to help with that.
Dave
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From: "Terry Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 17:04:25 -0700
Gaiko Kyofusho wrote in message <7n2kie$6pd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I was wondering if there was a way that I could hook a normal (hp desk
>jet model ???) directly to my home network (consisting of 1 winnt box
>and 2 linux boxes) without having to hook it directly to one of the
>computers? (I admit that it would be for purposes of convenience
><arranging the network ing the house> not necessity, for those that
>might ask "why")
>
> -Gaiko
>
>Gaikokujin Kyofusho
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
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From: "Donald E. Stidwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network?
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:51:33 GMT
Gaiko Kyofusho wrote:
> I was wondering if there was a way that I could hook a normal (hp desk
> jet model ???) directly to my home network (consisting of 1 winnt box
> and 2 linux boxes) without having to hook it directly to one of the
> computers? (I admit that it would be for purposes of convenience
> <arranging the network ing the house> not necessity, for those that
> might ask "why")
>
> -Gaiko
>
> Gaikokujin Kyofusho
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
You can use a JetDirect box, which I highly recommend. I have also used
the Intel printer ports, but they, in my experience, are much too flaky.
Make sure your printer is *not* a Windows-only printer. I have NEVER
gotten one of those things to work except directly connected to a
computer. They don't work with Print Server boxes, they don't work with
parallel-to-USB converters, they are shaky when using on any passthru
device, etc.
Don
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Date: 17 Jul 99 21:34:24 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP Using KDE
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Milt Martin;
MM> Using KFM I can gain access to FTP directories,
MM> but it does not always show all files and or directories.
MM> I can also use gftp and access same ftp directories which shows all files
MM> including .exe, .zip and subdirectory folders on Win NT host.
MM> Why? Fix?
There may be an option someplace to control that. But, OTOH, I'm
running the mc that came with 5.2, and it does an admirable job of
showing everything.
Cheers, Gene
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network?
Date: 21 Jul 1999 00:15:34 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
"Terry Cox" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> Gaiko Kyofusho wrote in message <7n2kie$6pd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>I was wondering if there was a way that I could hook a normal (hp desk
>>jet model ???) directly to my home network (consisting of 1 winnt box
>>and 2 linux boxes) without having to hook it directly to one of the
>>computers? (I admit that it would be for purposes of convenience
>><arranging the network ing the house> not necessity, for those that
>>might ask "why")
>>
What you will need is an external printer server. Like the JetDirect made
by HP, you can get a one port model for around $130 which is a 10BaseT
model (JetDirect 170X).
Other companies make these same type of units (and perhaps cheaper) but I
would only buy a JetDirect.
- Justin
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 20 Jul 1999 19:42:06 -0500
MK wrote:
>
> On Mon, 19 Jul 1999 17:11:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (Anthony Ord) wrote:
> >>Michel Catudal wrote:
> >>> Capitalism is man exploiting man
> >>> Communism and socialism are the opposite
> >>Is it from the latest Stallman, or something <g>?
> >
> >No, it was a Polish thing, talking about the Russians. The
> >Poles came up with many subtle "jokes" about the Russians.
> >
> >Some people don't even get this one.
>
> I find it weird that what is called "Polish jokes" in US are so
> primitive. Polish humor is a bit like Jewish humor, it is often
> surreal and twisted in a subtle way.
>
Actually this one was good old French Canadian humor. I heard this
way back in the 60s by a group name "Les Cyniques". They were
law students earning money as stand up comics. They were very
famous in Qu�bec. Still 30 years or so later they enjoy popularity
on TV as shows hosts among other things.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 20 Jul 1999 23:41:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus) writes:
> It was the 19 Jul 1999 20:52:01 GMT...
> ..and Stefaan A Eeckels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Nah. We're part of this world. We're from this world, just
>> as much as virusses, bacteria, cats, and peanuts. Our
>> intelligence is part of nature. Obviously, we do things
>> differently from cats, but that doesn't make us any less
>> "natural". The cities we build are no less part of nature
>> than the cities built by termites, or bees.
>>
>> The sooner we get rid of the human/nature divide we've carried
>> with us since the Bible, the better.
>
> So you think we should start to prey upon and devour each other, that
> we should stop thinking intelligently, that we should let instincts
> rule our lives completely?
Where on earth did you get that idea? The only thing that I
argued was that we should stop consider ourselves "outside"
nature. We're just as natural as termites, and a human city
is, because it's made by humans, a natural phenomenon.
Nature didn't end with what we term our "intelligence".
> You're making a ridiculous proposition.
The Bible made us believe that we're somehow a finality,
placed on earth to rule it. That we're made in the image
of our creator, a favour not extended to the rest of
creation. We've nominally abandoned that idea, but replaced
it with the equally erroneous concept that we're not part
of nature. The things we make are not natural, but artificial.
You yourself immediately throught that accepting that we're
natural somehow implied we'd have to let ourselves be ruled
by instincts (which our species doesn't have a lot of).
Face it. We're a product of life on this planet, not something
freaky that's unrelated to life around us. Face it, the
bacteria in your gut think your pretty much part of nature :-)
--
Stefaan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Initio SCSI help
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:50:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Posted and mailed]
In article <7n2850$q4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Edward J. Smiley Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have a Sony CDU-948 SCSI CD-writer and the Initio SCSI card that comes
> with the drive. It is a 9100U, I believe. Can someone help me with the
> drivers that are on there website. From what I read from other posts is
> that they have a SCSI hard drive with the Initio card. I already have
> linux installed and I just want to get my writer working. Could someone
> please help!
Initio drivers come standard with Linux kernels since late in the 2.0.x
series, so I suggest you upgrade to a kernel that includes the necessary
drivers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Finding (and installing) up to date rpms
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 00:53:24 GMT
Hello all,
I was wondering if there is an easy way to find up-to-date rpms for my
linux system (redhat 6.0, i386).
I've looked on rpmfind.net, but I'm a bit confused by it. For example,
I need an upgrade to enlightenment from 0.15.5-32 to 0.15.5-34 to get a
bugfix. I looked in
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/redhat/6.0/updates/i386/ which looks
like what I want, but there is no upgrade for enlightenment there.
Then I found
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/rawhide/1.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS/enlightenment-0
.15.5-34.i386.html , but is this correct? I thought rawhide was the codename
for redhat 5.9...
If this is correct (or if I find some other repository), is there a
command in rpm which will upgrade all of my installed rpms (as in rpm -U
ftp://rpmsite/blah/blah/*.rpm ?) I could write a simple script which
would do something like the following, but this won't work because the
versions numbers change. Anyone have any ideas?
(I probably don't have the rpm syntax right)
##############
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
@rpms = `rpm --query -a`;
foreach $rpm (@rpms) {
chop $rpm;
rpm -U -p ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/rawhide/1.0/i386/RedHat/RPMS/$rpm
print $rpm;
}
##############
Thanks for your help,
-Bruce
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (H.G. Hettinger)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 01:01:39 GMT
On Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:15:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(William Wueppelmann) wrotl:
>Linux installs with an incredibly rich set of tools: awk, grep, sed, tee,
>echo, cat, sort, uniq, spell and so forth. The idea behind these tools is
>that they are simple and flexible enough that they can be used to create
>(with the help of shell features such as pipes, redirection and scripts) an
>application which is suited to your particular needs. The Windows approach
>is to serve you a 100MB application and make you sort through it to isolate
>the features that you need (if they are there at all) from the features
>that you don't need, but are included because someone else might want them.
>
>In other words, Linux ships with everything you need to do most anything
>you could ever want to do except for one component which you must provide
>yourself: creativity.
Ok. Any idea how I can learn how to create a good off-line threaded
news reader to use under Linux? Any books that don't assume to much
prior knowledge of Unix or linux?
hgh
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Subject: Re: Making a privileged user
Date: 20 Jul 1999 21:15:49 -0400
In article <7n2b4r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Daniel Forester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, I wanted to know how to "privilege" a user (my personal user, of
>course).... as in, I've got another drive mounted, but only root can write
>to it; I want to make it so my user can do it as well. Running RH 6.0
>(none of those Gnome or KDE wizards or whatever; I wanna know the command
>line way) ;-) I've looked at usermod, but can't seem to see anything
>that'd do what I want. Thanks...
>
Change the permissions on the files to, eg 777 (wide open) or put yourself
in the group that owns the files and make it 775, or just change the ownership
of the files to owned by you instead of root.
Coy
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