Linux-Misc Digest #102, Volume #24 Mon, 10 Apr 00 21:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Floyd Davidson)
movie of all an X session (DB)
crontab configuration (mschluetz)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Robert Wiegand)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Floyd Davidson)
Re: newbie question (Leonard Evens)
Re: Kernel Panic (Grahame M. Kelly)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Robert Wiegand)
Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Tim Tyler)
Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
pop3 and individual mailboxes (peter pilsl)
Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Pjtg0707)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Pjtg0707)
Re: uninstalling stuff (John Hasler)
fstab and adding a drive (Pjtg0707)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (Karel Jansens)
Linux Maximum File Size ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Programming Languages on Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: kill a zombie process ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 10 Apr 2000 06:42:10 -0800
Se�n � Donnchadha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> >
>>> > Unix: ibid
>>>
>>> No, it was invented by the aforementioned people as a scaled down Multics.
>>
>>Do you mean no, it wasn't an innovation, or no, it wasn't At&T? Either way,
>>you're laughably wrong.
>>
>
>Unix was a castrated version of Multics. Its name is even a pun on
>that. There was *NOTHING* innovative about it, at least in the first
>version.
The file permissions scheme, and command line redirection using
'>', '<', and '|', all of which made the concept of processes
which are connected to each other a rather innovative idea, at
that time.
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Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: DB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: movie of all an X session
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:42:03 +0200
Hello,
To make a demo, I would like to create a movie of all an X session
It means be able to "record" in a movie file all the desktop of my X
session during a certain time ?
Anyone ?
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From: mschluetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: crontab configuration
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:40:38 +0200
Hello,
we like to setup some crontab-jobs.
Where can I find some information about the syntax to define the time?
There is one job, who shall run every 5 minutes.
Thanks
Martin
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:25:38 -0500
Otto wrote:
> > You must be new to this industry. Follow the link below, then
> > come back and tell us if you still have trouble believing the
> > story:
> > http://x25.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=282694102
>
> The link produces a 404 error, evidently the urban legend what you were
> referencing no longer exists.
No, it is just a bad link in the e-mail - only part of the path gets used.
Type in the full path and it works.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 10 Apr 2000 07:15:34 -0800
"Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Floyd Davidson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >"fungus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Christopher Smith wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > A cheap OS not tied to a particular hardware seller's machine ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> So what the hell is Unix?
>> >
>> >*Cheap* ?
>>
>> Inexpensive... as in *free*.
>
>In the early 80s ? Which Unix was that ?
In the early 80's AT&T was not *allowed* to sell UNIX at all! It
was free... to those who could get it (Stanford and USCB, for
example).
By the late 80's there were several inexpensive versions of UNIX
available. By the early 90's there were several free versions.
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Floyd L. Davidson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:30:59 -0500
Chetan Ahuja wrote:
>
> OK... From the readme file, it seems they are using a tulip
> compatible chip. That make thigs easy.
> As root, just try to type "insmod tulip" If there are no error
> messages, type "ifconfig". See if you have an eth0 now. If yes,
> Wonderful, you don't need to compile anything. You have a driver for
> you card. To make this module load up at startup, enter the
> following in your /etc/conf.modules ( or is it /etc/modules.conf
>
> alias eth0 tulip
>
> All you need to do now is to setup a DHCP client to run at startup
> which will contact the cable companies' DHCP server and get you an
> IP address etc. I don't use DHCP myself but under redhat, the
> procedure is likely to be as follows:
>
> 1.Install the pump package from the CD ( it would be in the form of
> a pump-????.rpm (or maybe dhcpd.rpm.) file and the command to
> install is rpm -ivh pump-???.rpm) If both dhcpd and pump
> exist, you have to install just one of them.
>
> 2. Read the man page for pump and see whether you need to setup any
> configuration parameters in some file... ( ideally you shouldn't
> have to)
>
> 3. Run the ntsysv command through which you can choose dhcp
> service to start at startup. But you don't have to reboot for it
> to start working ( this is not windows) You can just go to
> /etc/rc.d/init.d and find the shell script which corresponds to
> the DHCP client ( it would be named pump or dhcp or somthing)
> just run it with the arguement start. i.e. type:
>
> ./pump start
It should be
./network restart
There is no pump in /etc/rc.d/init.d
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Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grahame M. Kelly)
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic
Date: 10 Apr 2000 00:06:04 GMT
In article <r1SH4.6511$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Dr. Darren M. Crotchett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Partition check:
> hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
> attempt to access beyond end of device
> 03:05: rw=0, want=2, limit=0
> dev 03:05 blksize=1024 blocknr=1 sector=2 size=1024 count=1
> EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock
> attempt to access beyond end of device
> 03:05: rw=0, want=33, limit=0
> dev 03:05 blksize=1024 blocknr=32 sector=64 size=1024 count=1
> isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=03:05, iso_blknum=16, block=32
> Kernel panic (ask Bob): VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:05
>
> Any ideas how to correct this problem?
You are best to reinstall the distro you want but make sure this time
that you do delete all the linux partitions (under say fdisk) and re
create them. When selecting the partitions to be formatted I would
strongly suggest youn run with the "c" for check bad block option
and maybe more importantly increase your superblock count (which I
know you can do under SuSE - but on other distro's you have to find
out yourself). Increasing the superblock count will increase the
number of smaller blocks (ie. waste less disk space on a very big
disk partition).
Cheers, Grahame
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:36:02 -0500
Otto wrote:
ble that they are
> That remains to be seen if Microsoft will jack up the prices of their
> products. You'd be hard to press to name another software company who's
> software is cheaper than Microsoft's.
You don't get out much do you?
I paid about $11 for my copy of Mandrake Linux.
I downloaded Netscape for free.
I downloaded StarOffice for free.
What would a similar set-up from Microsoft cost?
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.2600,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:04:30 GMT
In article <CJlI4.4564$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [Posted and mailed]
>
> I suggest you just generate new ssh keys. (Well, and re-install
everything
> from scratch. Minor details.... ;-) )
:-) I am starting to think that the *right* way to install RedHat as
a server is to do the install manually -- that is, don't just let
the RedHat installer install "everything" and then try to trim out
what you don't need. Rather, I think I need to install the absolute
minimum and then install each package as I need it. Much more time
intensive, but I would have a firmer grasp of what's going on in my
machine.
For all this headache, I am thinking I am better off with a
conventional web hosting service taking care of this for me. On the
other hand, I am learning quite a bit by having to deal with this
myself and I like that part. But it is a drain on my time...
> Telnet is inherently insecure.
Absolutely.
If I run MySQL or PostgreSQL, do I run another serious security
risk? It's a port that is open....
> As to restricting access to specific addresses, there are several
tools
> that will help you do this, including:
Okay.
> Personally, I recommend using ipchains AND either xinetd or inetd
with TCP
> Wrappers. That way, if a security bug exists in one package, you're
> protected by the other. Also remember that most of these tools work
partly
> or completely on IP addresses (and sometimes hostnames), which can be
> spoofed,
Shit, that's a good point.
See, I'm not a hacker, so virtually all these methods of accessing
and spoofing are alien to me. How does one spoof an IP address?
> /proc is a "virtual" filesystem. It represents information on your
system.
> For instance, /proc/interrupts lists the IRQs in use, and /proc/pci
lists
> information on PCI devices. Most of these files have 0 length because
the
> system generates the information dynamically, so it'd be misleading to
> give them sizes. /proc/kcore is a representation of your computer's
memory
> (I bet you have 256MB of RAM, right?).
Yep! I understand now. Thanks.
> > Why are all the files dated *tomorrow* ????
>
> I don't know. Mine are dated correctly. Is your system clock correct?
Actually, yes. In the *morning* the dates shown for proc are
correct. In the evening, they show *tomorrow*. I have not nailed
down what time of the evening that switches over. Guess there's a
little cron job for me, eh? :-)
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Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
From: Tim Tyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:05:03 GMT
In comp.lang.java.advocacy Otto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "petilon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> "Otto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> > Kertzman word against a no name vice-president from Microsoft,
:> > nice. There's nobody to deny allegations. Depending on one's
:> > perspective, one might/might not believe the story.
:>
:> You must be new to this industry. Follow the link below, then
:> come back and tell us if you still have trouble believing the
:> story:
:> http://x25.deja.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=282694102
: The link produces a 404 error, evidently the urban legend what you were
: referencing no longer exists. [...]
The link works for me. It's "The Microsoft Method". Perhaps try it again.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.2600
Subject: Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:13:01 GMT
In article <faPH4.11718$O5.101468@news02>,
"donoli" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reinstalling is a good idea. but to answer your question about holes
in
> Sendmail, it depends on the version of Sendmail more than it does the
OS.
I've since nuked it, but I believe it was version 8.9.3-15.
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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pop3 and individual mailboxes
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:19:43 GMT
how to tell pop3d not to look in /var/spool/mail/$user but in a specified
box for each user ? (ie. /home/jeff/jeff.mail for jeff and
/home/john/mail/john.week.15.day3 for john, cause jeff gets 10mails a year
and john gehts 100 a day and wants to split and archive and only rarely
look at them via pop3)
thanks,
peter
--
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goldfisch.at.at
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.2600,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:17:39 GMT
In article <qi4I4.3364$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [Posted and mailed]
> There are also several security-related HOWTOs and
> other documents scattered about. A good book on Linux security is
_Maximum
> Linux Security_, and one on UNIX security in general is _Practical
UNIX &
> Internet Security._ I've got links to both (and one or two others) on
my
> web page, http://www.rodsbooks.com/books/books-network.html. If you
merely
> re-install everything the way it had been, your uninvited guest will
be
> back.
These books look great. Thank you for the URL - this is some reading
I should have been doing a long time ago
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:31:26 GMT
On 10 Apr 2000 07:15:34 -0800, Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
============================snipped==========================
>
>In the early 80's AT&T was not *allowed* to sell UNIX at all! It
>was free... to those who could get it (Stanford and USCB, for
>example).
Look folks,
UCB sockets was developed as part of BSD distribution ay University
of California at Berkeley, there is NO USCB.
How would you feel if I mis-spell your name? I feel much better now!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:39:27 GMT
On 09 Apr 2000 20:14:02 -0800, Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707) wrote:
>>On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 02:23:55 GMT, fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>As I recall, there were WIndows NT versions that ran on the DEC
>>Workstations, and I don't mean Alphas. In fact, there was a version
>>of WIndows NT that actually ran on a VAX in its early days.
>
>But what inovation was there in doing something that UNIX had been
>doing 20 years before?
And what did UNIX had that wasn't done on DEC's OS on PDP11 at that time?
I don't see your point. Innovations do not exist in a vacuum nor are they
ever revolutionary, but evolutionary.
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: uninstalling stuff
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:55:38 GMT
alexd writes:
> Doesn't 'packagename' break the file system standard?
Not as long as it is in /usr/local since by definition the sysadmin can
safely do whatever she wants there (which is not to say that it is a good
idea).
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pjtg0707)
Subject: fstab and adding a drive
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:55:00 GMT
Hi folks,
I have an old DOS drive with lots of data on it that I'd like to install
on one of my RH Linux systems so I can read it. Is there anything else
I need to do besides editing the entries in the fstab settings so the
system will mount it at boot time?
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From: jansens_at_ibm_dot_net (Karel Jansens)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: 10 Apr 2000 18:01:37 GMT
"Christopher Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Hal Burgiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:01:58 +1000, Christopher Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> The OS is free, you just pay for the disks, box, and book.
> > >
> > >Thus it isn't free since it costs money.
> >
> > You miss the point entirely.
>
> No, I don't. *You* do.
>
> I'm well aware of all the different levels of "freeness" the Linux crowd
> like to talk about.
>
> > >> You can also
> > >> download them all for free.
> > >
> > >But most don't, that being the point.
> > >
> > >Saying "but it's free" when nearly everyone pays for it, is useless.
> >
> > Nonsense. People give it away all the time. The local LUG has gotten
> > many free copies of SuSE, Turbolinux and others. And they give them out
> > at events too. Anybody who wants a free copy here, can call the LUG.
> > They still have to pay for the bus ticket though (I mention this before
> > you do). Go to a trade and give away copies of MS and see who comes
> > knocking on your door.
>
> I'm sure, but we're talking about commercial entities, as I understand it,
> and most of them will be purchasing Linux from a commercial vendor, along
> with (hopefully) some support.
>
You're still missing it. The Linux O/S _is_ free; it doesn't cost
anything. You pay for media, nice printed books, support, the
privilege of having it delivered to your doorstep, and whatnot. You DO
NOT pay for Linux itself.
What books do you get with Windows? What kind of support does a
Windows license buy you these days? On how many different computers
can you simultaneously install your copy of Windows-whatever? And,
most importantly, what do you do when there is something in your
Windows O/S that you don't like? Recompile? Can you e-mail One
Microsoft Way for a copy of the source code?
Karel Jansens
jansens_at_attglobal_dot_net
========================================================
"How to make God laugh?"
"Tell Him your plans."
(paraphrased from "Foundation's Fear" - Gregory Benford)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux Maximum File Size
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:04:29 GMT
I've been told that Linux has a maximum file size of 2GB. Is that
really true? I saw a message stating that there were some other file
systems availiable. What are their max file sizes?
http://x37.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=605258949&CONTEXT=955385669.1388773408&;
hitnum=14
For example, what is the max file size in the JFS?
Thanks,
Randy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why linux will never go beyond geekdom
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:13:37 GMT
Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Purely because it sucks the big one, no games ! no word !
>> KDE....it stinks....Gnome.....amateur hacks with pretty graphics
>>
> Man, you're just as freaky as the idiots who love Linux who mindlessly
> critisize Microsoft. There is room for everyone's tastes. Bill Gates
> and Microsoft are essentially modern day hero's without who's efforts
> the computing world would be very poor indeed.
Without whom the computing world would be a much richer, more vibrant and
innovative place, I think you MEANT to say....
:)
Oh dear, another Spike... This could cause some confusion...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:13:38 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Dances With Crows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It wouldn't be so bad if we could just tell the bloody thing to reload
> itself automatically, but no, we have to walk over to the machine, boot
> from floppy, watch it to make sure the Ghost process starts OK, hang signs
> threatening instant death to anyone who touches the machine when it's
> going through its fragile self-check routine after Ghost finishes[1], then
> go back, make sure nothing went wrong, and reboot for the 4th time to set
> the BIOS back to booting from the hard disk only. Total waste of time and
> effort.
> [/RANT]
The NT machines at keele have a minimal linux installed.
Whenever there's a reboot, linux starts, copies the NT system files back to
the machine from the server and issues a reboot back into NT...
I love the irony of that...
It's a shame they don't offer a linux boot session.
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| Andrew Halliwell BSc | operating system originally coded for a 4 bit |
| in |microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that|
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:13:42 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Pjtg0707 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It turned out the reason the
> PCs and macs were always crashing was because people who were using
> the machines were constantly altering the system configurations to do
> what they wanted to do and installing/deinstalling their softwares. Under
> conditions like that, it's no wonder macs and pcs, whose file systems that
> do not have sophisticated access controls, were always crashing.
> I hardly think it's the fault of the OS to fail under conditions like
> that.
Of course it is!
Linux can handle that kind of treatment without trashing the entire system!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How did the hacker get root access to my system?
Crossposted-To: alt.2600,alt.linux,comp.os.linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:13:52 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm confused by the fact that all these files are zero byte in length,
> yet I can 'cat' them. Also, what's that kcore file at 268MB? The root
> partition is only 152MB in size....how can I possibly have a 268MB file
> called 'kcore' on /proc if /proc is on the root partition?
/proc isn't a REAL filesystem. It's a virtual filesystem where all its files
are just links to system resources. I imagine kcore is the system memory
footprint?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Programming Languages on Linux
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:13:54 GMT
Peet Grobler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> What programming languages are there on linux? I know about C++, Fortran and
> Pascal. But anything else?
How long is a peice of string? There are absolutely LOADS of 'em.
Forth, Cobol, Basic, Perl, TCL/TK, Java, Python, Smalltalk, Modula-2 + all
the shell scripting languages. I can't think of anymore, but there are.
> Anything that's "own" to Linux?
You mean exclusive to linux? No. Most linux software is portable to other
Unix systems and vice versa.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: kill a zombie process
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:13:57 GMT
Andras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Peet Grobler wrote:
>>
>> How would you go about killing a zombie process?
> No way.
> A zombie is dead already. It is just waiting for the parent to return a
> value.
> However this does not mean that there's nothing you can do about
> removing it from the list of processes.
> The only problem is I don't know how do it.
killing and restarting the parent process should do it...
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