Linux-Misc Digest #110, Volume #21 Wed, 21 Jul 99 15:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: sound with Netscape ("Kerry J. Cox")
Re: Finally Done it! (Thomas Ruedas)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Peter Seebach)
Re: CIA assassinations (MK)
Re: Lost access to /usr and /bin - URGENT (toby)
Process START times (ps aux) don't agree with 'date' (Bob Odom)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Peter Seebach)
Re: Filesystem panic after forgetting to umount vfat partition ("R.K.Aa")
Re: Finally Done it! ("R.K.Aa")
Re: CIA assassinations ("A.T.Z.")
How To Install?????? ("Twilight")
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Johan Kullstam)
Problems with LoadLin (Jordi)
I Wanna do It to, but donno how !!!! ("Twilight")
partition magic (RaMzEyMe)
Re: How to change the time? (Sitaram Chamarty)
Re: How do you pronounce "LINUX"?? ("J�rgen Exner")
Re: root password (Someone)
gnome task bar ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
distributions switches (pces)
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sound with Netscape
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:16:27 -0600
I didn't see the original posting, but this sounds an awful like like the
situation I was in the other day. I wanted to play .midi and .wav and
.mp3 files through Netscape. I just grabbed the plug-in from Netscape
called Plugger-3.0 (look for it on Freshmeat or the Netscape Plug-in page)
and then I simply installed the binary in the /opt/netscape/plugin/
directory. Now all my midi and wav files and even mp3 files start up
automatically.
Very cool. If you need any help, drop me a line.
KJ
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Anita Lewis wrote:
> If you didn't get your answer yet, you might try it at
> netscape.communicator.unix. I got on that newsgroup through
> www.netscape.com following a trail through browsers and support. There
> are a few newsgroups listed so check for the unix one.
>
> Anita
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Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:40:41 +0200
From: Thomas Ruedas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finally Done it!
>If you whant a suite, there's StartOffice
You mean StarOffice :) AFAIK, it's free as well.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:02:17 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'd hardly call ESR's contributions ( parts of ncurses, giflib, and
>fetchmail )
>> as well as the XFree86 video timings howto "negligeable".
>Has he actually started any coding project? He seems to merely
>maintain stuff that doesn't require much maintenance. But maybe that's
>just wrong perception.
It is. There was a fair amount of maintenance going on... And keep in mind,
maintenance, because it's less "glorious" than new development, is where
there's generally a shortage of competent people.
>As soon as a drunk driver sees a roadblock, what does he do? He makes
>a U-turn and *bang*, another roadblock related traffic accident!
> -- Jimmy Tingle, on: Heat, NPR
ROFL! I love this quote.
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 15:39:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 20 Jul 1999 19:42:06 -0500, Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> >>> Capitalism is man exploiting man
>> >>> Communism and socialism are the opposite
>> >>Is it from the latest Stallman, or something <g>?
>> >No, it was a Polish thing, talking about the Russians. The
>> >Poles came up with many subtle "jokes" about the Russians.
>> >Some people don't even get this one.
>> I find it weird that what is called "Polish jokes" in US are so
>> primitive. Polish humor is a bit like Jewish humor, it is often
>> surreal and twisted in a subtle way.
>Actually this one was good old French Canadian humor. I heard this
>way back in the 60s by a group name "Les Cyniques".
Possibly. However, are you sure this is their original humor? Sounds
too much like political humor about we have experienced here.
Marcin Krol
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From: toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lost access to /usr and /bin - URGENT
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 12:56:08 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
reboot the machine.
at the lilo prompt type:
linux single
This will put you in single user mode. You should be able to wear your
aluminum-foil hat of rootness. Also, never, ever do anything as root unless
you are doing it interactively or on a file by file basis. Therefore:
chown -R nobody *
at your root directory will send to hell.
Toby
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi, all,
>
> By a very stupid mistake, I removed access to group and world for /usr
> and /bin and there is currently no root users logged in. I have totally
> lost control of my system! :( I can't su, can't do anything at all. I
> also cannot telnet from remote and login as root because I disabled root
> remote login. Can someone please, please help me! What can I do? Can
> someone send me the su binary or something? I am using Slackware 2.0.34.
>
> Thanks... please help! (and don't laugh)
>
> --
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Odom)
Subject: Process START times (ps aux) don't agree with 'date'
Date: 21 Jul 1999 17:31:48 GMT
I have a bizarre problem in that the process START time as echoed
by 'ps aux' and 'date' do not agree. We have several systems that all
exhibit the same behavior. They are all dual 400 MHz P-II systems
running RH 6.0. The motherboards are ASUS. Two of the three have been
updated to the 2.2.10 kernel. The other one, which has not been updated yet,
is using 2.2.5-15. The installs were clean with no problems at all.
If I do a 'ps aux' followed immediately by 'date' I get the following output:
USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND
.
.
.
user 726 0.0 0.2 2000 832 tty1 S 10:41 0:00 /usr/X11R6/lib/X1
user 728 0.0 0.3 1760 984 pts/1 S 10:41 0:00 bash
root 813 0.0 0.2 1920 772 pts/1 T 11:06 0:00 su root
user 962 0.0 0.2 2472 848 pts/1 R 12:33 0:00 ps aux
[user@blarg user]$ date
Fri Jul 16 14:26:48 PDT 1999
The time shown by 'ps aux' is 12:33, but the true time is 14:26.
I have rebooted, and the times become nearly equal, but the time
shown by 'ps aux' immediately begins to lag the time echoed by
'date'. In fact the START time shown today (Jul 20) is Jul18!
This looks like it could be a real problem.
I don't think it is a hardware problem, given the following output:
[user@blarg user]# date; hwclock --show; date
Wed Jul 21 10:18:05 PDT 1999
Wed Jul 21 10:18:17 1999 -0.119387 seconds
Wed Jul 21 10:18:05 PDT 1999
The lag is so great now that the "START" time for 'ps aux today (Jul 21)
is given as Jul19!
I appreciate any help I can get with this! Thanks! -- Bob
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 16:58:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes. But it is not *all* we do. Listen, this discussion seems to have
>reached a standstill. You know the story of the optimist saying that
>the glass is half full while the pessimist says that it's half empty?
And the engineer says "this glass is twice as big as it needs to be".
>I say that as long as there is a trace of reasonable thinking, of
>ideals and cooperation, we are human, and not animals.
"I say that as long as there is a cute fuzzy tail, we are talking about
rabbits, not animals."
If, on the other hand, you are using "animals" as a shorthand for "animals
which have no trace of reasonable thinking, ideals, and cooperation", you
will have to exclude several other species from the list as well, but it
seems fairly clear to me that elephants aren't "human".
>You, on the other hand, claim that as long as there is a trace of
>instincts and animal nature left, we are animals, and not human.
He never said "not human". We can be both.
>If you think so... Nevertheless, it was something animals would *not*
>have been capable of. As cynical as it may sound, this, too, is *human
>nature* and not *animal nature*. Of course it's the dark side of human
>nature. But it is not animal behaviour. Animals do not commit
>genocide or coldly plan systems of oppression and destruction.
Actually, they do. At least, they have wars in which they try to wipe out
completely competing tribes. Mostly primates, sure, but...
I think you're way too attached to the idea that variance within a group
doesn't happen, and there can't be animals which are in various ways
different from other animals.
-s
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Filesystem panic after forgetting to umount vfat partition
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 17:47:41 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have noticed that if I leave a Win95 filesystem (vfat) mounted
> overnight, the next moring my RedHat 6.0 system is frozen solid. The
> only way out is to reset the PC. I even tried to telnet in from another
> system on the network, but nothing.
>
> In the /var/log/messages file this is what I found. And 04:02 was the
> last time my system
> did anything. After a reset, Linux does it's usual fsck on the
> partition, but much worse than
> normal. It moved over a 100Mb to the /lost+found directory. I had 98
> files and 12 directories in there. This happens every time I forget to
> unmount my vfat partitions.
>
> Any idea why this would happen? It happened 3 times already. This 1st
> time, it costed me a re-install of Linux. I would love to get rid of the
> vfat partition, but unfortunately I have to dual boot every now and
> then. This is my production mashine at work, not my personal mashine,
> so the problem is quite serious.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> Jul 18 04:02:00 goofy syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
> Jul 18 04:02:00 goofy syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
> Jul 18 04:02:00 goofy syslogd 1.3-3: restart.
> Jul 21 04:02:42 goofy kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
> Jul 21 04:02:42 goofy kernel: 03:01: rw=0, want=320017296, limit=574528
> Jul 21 04:02:42 goofy kernel: attempt to access beyond end of device
> Jul 21 04:02:42 goofy kernel: 03:01: rw=0, want=320017297, limit=574528
[snippeted]
>
> Hope somebody can shedd some light for me.
A hunch...
RH6: At 04:02 there's a cronjob starting: slocate will then run.
I have a hunch you've set up slocate to also locate files on the vfat
partition.
The cronjob is in /etc/cron.daily and called slocate.cron
It contains some lines with paths/directories or partitions.
the parameter -e you will see there
That's used to exclude the following dir's or partitions from being
searched for files.
Seems to me you have a large vfat partition there so test if not
excluding it in slocate.cron does the trick.
Another thing...you say you dualboot...is it strictly nessecary at all
to have that vfat partition mounted at all while you're in linux? If you
dont use files from it during linux sessions you might as well not mount
it in the first place - linux won't mind.
K.
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From: "R.K.Aa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Finally Done it!
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:14:49 +0200
K Kal wrote:
>
> OK guys,
> Everyone congradulate me, I've finally made switch from the
> microsoft Hell hole they call 98/NT to Linux.
>
> I've been meaning to make the switch for ever so long, but never had
> the guts to do so. Thankfully, the switch has been made.
>
> I've installed RedHat 6.0 (linux 2.2.5-15smp). I'm just getting
> started on Linux and X-Windows (KDE/GNOME, etc.) and I hope it will go
> more smoothly than I think.
>
> I'm looking for a good replacement for Microsoft Office but to run on
> linux. Can anyone suggest anything?
>
> Also, I tried installing Real Player 5.0, but was unsuccessful when I
> attempted to run it. I keep getting an errno1, and sometimes a
> Segmentation fault! Does anyone know how to get around this??
>
> Until next time,
> keep on smiling
> K.Kal
>
> ***Good bye Microsoft, and Hello Linux***
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
welcome to endless hours of OS amusement ;)
Staroffice is good, a memory hog and messy to install. If you d/l single
user free version you must install it as the user who shall later use
the app. And that oughtn't be root! Since the install goes to /usr/bin
or /usr/local/bin (hmm i think that was it) you must be a little smart
and allow yourself write-access to these dirs while installing and then
later set correct access on the directories again (root rwx and users
without w access) after the install. (see "man chown") This was how I
did it at least. Perhaps I should have read some manual...hmm
Commercial solutions: Applixware is well reputed. If you like you can
also pick an app here and an app there and assemble your own "office
suite". http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml
Spend enough time looking around and you'll find KDE-office but that's
still in beta. StarOffice may look more like MSOffice though. You'll
face some (aclaimedly overcomeable) font trouble if you want more than
the standard SO fonts but it's a very good suite and doesn't take too
long to get aquainted with. Remember autosave - it tends to crash now
and then when you surprise it - not a daily occurance though ;)
For realplayer5:
Go to:
http://www.i2k.com/~jeffd/rpopen/
-download by right-clicking on the file-link and choose "Save Link As.."
-unpack (tar -zxvf filename)
-cd to the dir it unpacked to
-edit the file "rplayer" to contain the real path to your rvplayer
-run a simple "make"
(hmm check that no paths got messed up in rplayer script...been a while
since i did this)
-copy open.so and rplayer to the dir where rvplayer is.
-Open Netscape and point it's association with realaudio to rplayer
INSTEAD of rvplayer
Now things should work, cept that the RedHat rpm version or RP5 will run
as application, not plugin.
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From: "A.T.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:55:34 +0200
I think I don't understand this. What has it to do with Linux or NT?? Is Linux
for the poor and NT for the rich, if so, why does Mercedes use Linux. Is Mercedes
poor??
The government already takes money from the rich and give it to the poor, but
thats not the solution. I know some people who are always complaining they don't
have money. They are so busy complaining that they don't have time to work and
make a decent living.
And what does money mean. When you're happy and healthy then you are rich.
Bye,
B.
Arkadiusz Danilecki schreef:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris L wrote:
> >Richard Kulisz wrote in message <7msas0$qq2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > Then you would have 0% employment. What is the incentive for labor? Why
> >shouldn't a person have the opportunity to make a better (subjective)
> >lifestyle? Who says I don't need that extra car or second home on the lake
> >or that ski trip or whatever else I choose to buy with what I have?
> An opportunity to make your life better is quite different to born as
> rich... I mean my opinion is you make your money yourself - everything is ok,
> but if you get money only because you born in wealth family sth is unfair.
> It's not ok that some ppl can't even dream about buying second car, because
> they born in poor family and have no chances to change his/her situation.
> So the state should do sth to help poor's - even by taking money from
> the rich and giving them to the poor.
> A.D.Danilecki "szopen"
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From: "Twilight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: How To Install??????
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:40:20 +0200
> Hi guys,
>
> I've heard a lot of good things about linux, I'm using win98 and I'm
getting
> sick and tiered of the os.
> A couple of weeks ago I downloaded RedHat 6 for a boot cd (I think it also
> includes the whole setup) but I don't know how to install it and what I
have
> to do to prepare myself for this new os.
> Is there someone out there who could give me all the answers on this.
> I really want to make the Jump.
> Right now I have so manny questions to ask, like if I can keep my existing
> mega expansive software I have running in Win98 or do I have to buy new
> soft.
> any way I hope someone can Help me out.
> Thanx in advance
>
> Robert
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: 21 Jul 1999 13:09:09 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefaan A Eeckels) writes:
> In article <7mse68$6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kulisz) writes:
>
> > Socialism is based on cooperation and democracy while capitalism
> > is based on competition (ie, War) and dictatorship. You can't run
> > the world on destruction alone but you sure as bloody hell *can*
> > run it on construction alone! The same applies to honesty vs. lies
> > in moral philosophy. The situation is *not* symmetric.
> >
> > So while it's obvious that Libertarians are full of shit and idiots
> > besides, the Marxists have hit upon a fundamental principle of nature.
> Harumph. The natural world *does* run on competition, rather
> than on cooperation: competition for food and living space,
> both inter and intra species.
> When left alone, nature weeds out the weaker, and the stronger
> get to procreate.
oh yes. that's why parents never take care of infants and just leave
them upon a convenient hillside. how much can a 2 week old baby earn?
not much. some competition is good. too much is bad. cooperation
pays too. `to each according to his need and from each according to
their ability' seems to work perfect fine in most families. where it
doesn't we speak of dysfunctional families, i.e., a wrong thing. to
some extent it scales to your circle of friends. it doesn't (often)
make to larger groups, because cheating on the system pays.
> Humankind in the last few centuries is an a-typical species, as
> it seems to evolve towards favouring the weaker elements, and
> has reduced the procreative advantage of the stronger elements.
human seem to be social creatures. people naturally want to form
teams - this is true in sports, economics &c. social groups help each
other out. i enjoy helping my friends. they seem to like helping me.
socialism on the small scale has worked from time immemorial and
continues to work today. it's a shame that it doesn't scale well.
free markets aren't really free. it's just a system in which we all
agree to play by the rules or be punished. capitalism can scale to a
large entity than socialism. however, the excess of capitalism are
also tempered by large scale social projects of government. no one
argues for abolition of the national armed forces and using a pure
free market mercenary force for defence (and offence).
> Getting people to cooperate is *difficult*, because by nature we're
> competitive. Humans need to be compelled to cooperate.
humans like to cooperate. they also like to compete. they also will
tend to take advantage of whatever situation they are in.
> This
> can be done (unsuccessfully) through force, (successfully) by
> creating/finding a common enemy, or (often successfully) by
> a social structure that allows people to pursue their own
> goals while contributing to "the common good".
> A small example: people who want to exert power over
> others should be capable of doing so, but in controlled
> conditions (the typical, corrupt european politician is
> vastly to be preferred over the absolute monarch).
>
> Anybody basing their concept of society on the false
> assumption that humans are by nature cooperative is
> living in cloud-cuckoo land.
humans are cooperative and competitive. the world isn't black and white.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Jordi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with LoadLin
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:01:25 +0200
I can�t load Linux from Windows 98 in a DOS window and I know it can be
done (I have seen it) .
I've read I have to enable the VCPI server and I don't what it is.
At the the end of mail is loadlin errors that happens.
If someone knows what I can do, please help me and sorry for my english
(it isn't my mother language)
LOADLIN v1.6 (C) 1994..1996 Hans Lermen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CPU is in V86-mode (may be WINDOWS, EMM386, QEMM, 386MAX, ...)
You need pure 386/486 real mode or a VCPI server to boot Linux
VCPI is supported by most EMS drivers (if EMS is enabled),
but never under WINDOWS-3.1 or WINDOWS'95.
(However, real DOS-Mode of WINDOWS'95 can have EMS driver with VCPI)
If loading via VCPI you also MUST have:
1. An interceptable setup-code (see MANUAL.TXT)
2. Identical Physical-to-Virtual mapping for the first 640 Kbytes
Your current DOS/CPU configuration is:
load buffer size: 0x00000000 , setup buffer size: 0x3E00
total memory: 0x00100000
CPU is in V86 mode
SetupIntercept: NO
stat2: cpu_V86, but no VCPI available (check aborted)
input params (size 0x001B):
vmlinuz-2.2.10 /dev/hdb1 rw
LOADLIN started from DOS-prompt
You are running under MS-WINDOWS or Windows 95
WARNING: Not enough free memory (load buffer size)
--
Ad�u, Jordi.
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From: "Twilight" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: I Wanna do It to, but donno how !!!!
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:32:57 +0200
Hi guys,
I've heard a lot of good things about linux, I'm using win98 and I'm getting
sick and tiered of the os.
A couple of weeks ago I downloaded RedHat 6 for a boot cd (I think it also
includes the whole setup) but I don't know how to install it and what I have
to do to prepare myself for this new os.
Is there someone out there who could give me all the answers on this.
I really want to make the Jump.
Right now I have so manny questions to ask, like if I can keep my existing
mega expansive software I have running in Win98 or do I have to buy new
soft.
any way I hope someone can Help me out.
Thanx in advance
Robert
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (RaMzEyMe)
Subject: partition magic
Date: 21 Jul 1999 18:22:11 GMT
Hi all,
does anyone know where i can download partition magic? Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sitaram Chamarty)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to change the time?
Date: 21 Jul 1999 04:57:17 -0700
On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:35:43 -0500, Trung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>2/ How to change the time? I have the time correct in Win98 & NT but not
>in Linux
"not correct" could mean anything. Is it off by a fixed number of
hours? Is it totally random looking? Or something in between?
If it's off by a certain number of hours, check your timezone
settings. Since you said RH, the command would be (IIRC)
"timeconfig".
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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce "LINUX"??
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 11:17:21 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Carlos Moreno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ditto. Maybe a dumb question, but English is not my mother language,
Doesn't matter. Linus Thorvalds native language is Swedish.
Therefore English wouldn't help you in the first place anyway.
jue
--
J�rgen Exner
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From: Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root password
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 10:01:23 -0700
>Unless you have installed the modules for encrypted file-systems...
>
>--
Does this module come with RH 6.0? I remember installing some kind of security
stuff (DES & so forth). I was curious myself as to how much security you have
in linux passwords. I realize DES has been rendered obsolete in cryptographic
circles, and obvously one can use PGP & so forth for really sensitive files (if
any ;*). But is the root password DES encrypted by defult if the module is
installed, or does one have to activate the encryption?
Just how does one go about extending the encryption to the file system as well?
Thank you kindly.....(Please reply via email if possible to skg at asis dot
com....)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: gnome task bar
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 18:28:27 GMT
Hi. I had kde and it was great. Now I just tried GNOME
and I found a little big problem
I have apps in the task bar. So I want to switch from one to
another. I clik and the app doesn't raise !
It gets the focus I know but I want this windows to pop up
the first in front.
I have spent many hours reading helps and trying settings.
I searched deja news and I found 4 messages related in
alt.tech.linux and the conclusion was 3steps:
1.- click in the app in the task bar with the right button
2.- it pops a menu, select raise/hide
3.- click on the icon at the right
three steps for just raising a window seems too much !
there must be a way.
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From: pces <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: distributions switches
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:46:21 +0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I've been using Slackware 96 since it came out and before that I used
the SLS package.
I patched '96 up to 2.0.36, and want to upgrade to the new Slackware 4.0
(provided
I can find a darn store 'round town that sells that package! All the
stores that I've gone
to, sell either Mandrake, RedHat or TurboLinux). Anyway, I went and
bought SuSE
6.1 last week and I installed it on top of my current Slackware
installation.
1) the installation process is 'simple' (provided one has a very big
HD). I had
around 57% space left in /usr with slackware.. now, with SuSE I only
have 2% left.
*shudder* I probably installed all sorts of other stuff that I'll most
likely get rid of
sooner or later. The package selection process took some time as I had
to
figure out what I'd like to installed knowing the limitations of space(
400MB for
/, and 740MB for /usr).
2) As contradictory this may sound, SuSE is similar, yet different
compared to
Slackware. Maybe it's wholly psychological, but it's a gradual process
in getting
used to SuSE. (*It's probably psychological... I'll probably get used
to it..
provided I don't throw out the current installation and install
something else.*)
3) I like SuSE in that it is bundled with neat apps and wm's
(ENLIGHTENMENT
all the way!). I couldn't believe it! I had Enlightenment running in no
time, and
after a few days, I think I figured out how to get the sound working. I
couldn't
get Sound working in E'.
4) Bonus is I'm now running on a 2.2.7 kernel! ;)
5) I haven't touched the RPM files. Just hesitant.
Ok.. 'nuff of my blabbering...
I've read the Distributions Howto, but I don't think it helped me much.
So I thought
I might ask here.
I'm considering in buying RH6.0 too. I dunno what I'll be doing with my
current
SuSE system, but I'll probably figure something out. I'm not sure if I
wanna
overwrite my notebook Linux box. It took me forever to get Linux
running
'smoothly' on my IBM TP 600 notebook.
Is it 'easy' to move from a Slackware-based installation to a RH based
installation,
with respects to system administrations, network
administration/configuration and
other stuff?
Any info appreciated.
It'd be interesting to try out Caldera, Debian and Mandrake.
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