Linux-Misc Digest #110, Volume #24 Tue, 11 Apr 00 13:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Kernel re-compile, now modprobe not working ("Peet Grobler")
Locale (Idar Tollefsen)
Re: Download via email (Catilina)
Re: xmms+esound output problem (Catilina)
Re: Kernel re-compile, now modprobe not working (Maarten Wijnen)
Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed (Kaz Kylheku)
Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed (Maarten Wijnen)
Trouble mounting a SCSI CD recorder (Idar Tollefsen)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation (fungus)
Bash ( [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: which flavour for a 486 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why won't a vfat partition mount read-write ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Hard disk on 2nd IDE port (Martijn Brouwer)
Re: Yet another new user (Martijn Brouwer)
Linux crash for no apparent reason ("Peet Grobler")
Re: which flavour for a 486 (Andrew Williams)
Re: Why won't a vfat partition mount read-write (Andrew Williams)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux vs. Windows Benchmarks (Richard Steiner)
KDAT restore (Alan)
blender (Ian Mortimer)
Re: Bash ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed (Koos Pol)
Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed (Kristjan Kristinsson)
Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation ("Eddie Dubourg")
Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed (Manoj Patil)
Re: kill a zombie process (Lew Pitcher)
php & mssql (Martha Peter)
Simple networking question. (for some) (Brad)
Re: Simple networking question. (for some) ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: some newbie questions ("Joe M.")
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Kernel re-compile, now modprobe not working
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:14:05 +0200
Anybody knows why?
I've re-compiled my linux 2.0.35 kernel, with kernel module support,
loadable modules daemon support, everything. Okay, here's the commands:
make dep; make clean; make zImage; make modules; make modules_install.
moved kernel to /vmlinuz, re-ran lilo.
New kernel boots, working fine. Except, cannot load modules.e.g. previously,
I could load the ne.o module (I've had to do this, I know it works).
Now, when I say modprobe -c it says "file /lib/modules/2.0.35/modules.dep
not found". How do I build this file?
Also, insmod ne.o doesn't work, says something about versioning information.
Help please
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From: Idar Tollefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Locale
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:17:06 GMT
Hello,
I can't get my locale setting right.
I'm trying to compile a new glibc,
but during install, it complains
about these settings:
export LC_ALL=en_US
export LC_COLLATE=no_NO
export LC_CTYPE=no_NO
export LANGUAGE=en_US
export LANG=en_US
I've also tried without "_??"
(like "export LC_ALL=en") and with
these in combination with ".ISO-8859-1"
and other variants. But with no luck.
Can someone tell me how these are
supposed to be set for glibc not to
fall back to the default "C"?
- Idar Tollefsen
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From: Catilina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Download via email
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:20:11 +0200
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 06:44:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hello all,
>
> As we are all aware email comes in faster than net downloading. Does
>anyone know of any services that allow you to choose a URL and have that
> file mailed to you. Gets a bit annoying waiting 1/2 hr for 50K.
>
http://1.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin1/flo?x=dAoYoKBhEYwKhAKuu
Mr. Cool will be your friend (if he works under Linux, I haven't
checked)
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From: Catilina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xmms+esound output problem
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:21:13 +0200
On Sun, 9 Apr 2000 14:30:03 +0200, "Catilina" wrote:
>Hi,
>
>When using xmms with the esd output plugin, the music is played way to fast
>(at least double speed). Has anyone else seen or heard this problem before?
>
Problem fixed in newest release of esound (0.2.18-2)
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From: Maarten Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel re-compile, now modprobe not working
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:18:47 +0200
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Peet Grobler wrote:
> New kernel boots, working fine. Except, cannot load modules.e.g. previously,
> I could load the ne.o module (I've had to do this, I know it works).
>
> Now, when I say modprobe -c it says "file /lib/modules/2.0.35/modules.dep
> not found". How do I build this file?
depmod -a 2.0.35
> Also, insmod ne.o doesn't work, says something about versioning information.
>
> Help please
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:20:49 GMT
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:38:06 +0100, Gast Primus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi
>
>I have been testing an evaluation copy of exceed but my boss says it's too
>expensive and telnet sessions are next to useless for what we want to do.
>Does anybody know of a cheap / free alternative to exceed bearing in mind I
>really only want xterms.
Sounds like all you want is a decent remote login terminal for Windows, as
opposed to the laughable telnet program that comes with Windows. In that case,
look no further than PuTTY.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
This thing supports telnet and ssh, and appears to have very good terminal
emulation and color support, resizing, xterm cut and paste, and all that. It's
the only Windoze terminal program I have ever seen that is any good (other than
the rxvt port to GNU-Win32 combined with the standard command line ssh client
ported to GNU-Win32).
--
#exclude <windows.h>
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From: Maarten Wijnen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:37:23 +0200
On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Gast Primus wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have been testing an evaluation copy of exceed but my boss says it's too
> expensive and telnet sessions are next to useless for what we want to do.
> Does anybody know of a cheap / free alternative to exceed bearing in mind I
> really only want xterms.
If you don't want support for X-applications you could try putty
(putty.exe in a search engine should give you some download
location). It's a free ssh/telnet client and it works very nice.
It's just as flexible as an ordinairy xterm.
If you want X-applications, take a look at this posting:
http://www.linux.ie/archive/msg00900.html
>
> Thanks in anticipation of your help.
>
> Iain
>
>
>
--
greetings,
wine
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From: Idar Tollefsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trouble mounting a SCSI CD recorder
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:42:40 GMT
Hello,
I recently came over a Philips CDD 2600
CD recorder complete with a AdvanSys SCSI
controller.
I've compiled in support for the AdvanSys
controller (a older ISA PnP card), support
for SCSI CD-ROMs and genereal SCSI equipment
in the kernel.
The AdvanSys controller is found during
boot up, and the values seem to be correct.
No conflicts can be detected when cross
checking with files in /proc. A pnpdump
also confirms the values used. So I'm
concluding that the controller is functioning
and detected correctly. The CDD 2600 is the
only device on the controller, so the SCSI
is terminated there.
When trying to mount this a SCSI CD-ROM,
I do like this:
mount -t iso9669 /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom
but I get this error message:
mount: the kernel does not recognize /dev/scd0
as a block device (maybe `insmod driver'?)
I don't have anything compiled as modules,
let alone anything called "driver", so what
is it talking about?
I've also tried /dev/sg?, but that is not a block
device, and it refuses to mount it. Other scd? have
also been tried, but with the same result.
A "cdrecord -scanbus" yields the following respons:
Cdrecord 1.8 (alphaev56-unknown-linux-gnu)
Copyright (C) 1995-2000 J�rg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory.
Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'.
Make sure you are root.
And yes, I am logged in as root. Could this be that
it only scans the PCI bus, not the ISA bus?
My CDD 2600 is listed as a compatible device in
the CDRecord FAQ.
Some hints as to what might be the problem would
be greatly appreciated.
- Idar Tollefsen
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From: fungus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:06:12 GMT
fungus wrote:
>
> The only real hope is that the computer will turn
> into an object which provides "services" to people.
> eg. Online shopping, e-mail, chatting with friends,
> watching movies, listening to music, etc. This is
> the only real danger to Microsoft, and this is why
> Microsoft so desperately wants to set proprietry
> standards for all the above, starting with the
> domination of the browser market. If these things
> only work on Windows then Microsoft's future is safe.
>
> Any DOJ remedy should center around taking this
> proprietry stuff (file formats, network protocols,
> etc.) out of Microsoft's hands. Anything else is a
> waste of time in the long term.
>
What I said...
http://www.infoworld.com/articles/en/xml/00/04/10/000410enwebstandards.xml
--
<\___/>
/ O O \
\_____/ FTB.
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From: <Bryan Hoyt> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bash
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:23:05 GMT
I asked for help on BASH a while ago, and got some. Thanks. What I'm after now,
is a list on all or most or many commands and terms used by bash and what they
mean and what they do.
Any advice?
--
Bryan Hoyt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.crosswinds.net/~artmusic
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: which flavour for a 486
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:22:07 +0100
This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave
Ewart)
On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:13:47 -0500, Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Peet Grobler wrote:
>
>> I bought the Caldera Openlinux CD... Installed fine on my 486, though a bit
>> slow (but what would you expect?)
>> It actually supports 386 as well. (Don't go there - I did. Too damn slow)
>>
>> see www.calderasystems.com
>>
>> Dafydd Prichard wrote in message ...
>> >I want to try out Linux on an old 486 (I 'normally' use Mac OS and a little
>> >Windows). I've tried both Corel and Mandrake and neither will install from
>> >the CDs I have as they don't appear to support 486s'. Is Slack the answer?
>> >Will I have any difficulty buying/downloading a compatible version? Pls
>> >advise many thanks
>> >>Daf
>> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>There are some people out there with Linux distros based on the 2.0.x series
>kernel, which would be packaged with software from the same era as 486's. For
>example, I have a copy of RedHat 5.2, but I won't part with it yet. You may be
>able to download the whole thing, or buy a CD from some vendors still. I'm
>pretty sure you could get it piecemeal from www.rufus.w3.org .
I agree with your statement about RH 5.2 - it works really nice on a 486,
although I do have 32MB RAM in the box. You can really improve things if
you (a) don't install X and (b) compile a custom kernel after everything
basically works. Be warned that compiling a kernel on a 486 can take
several hours, but it is worth it in the long run ...
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Ewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Why won't a vfat partition mount read-write
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:25:40 +0100
This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave
Ewart)
On 9 Apr 2000 07:46:18 GMT, Chetan Ahuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to share some stuff on a windows 95 partition (FAT16)
> with my linux applications (notably netscape bookmarks). The
> problem is, I simply can't mount my vfat partition in read-write
> mode. I think I have tried everything. The device node (/dev/hda2)
> has read-write permissions for everybody ( Although I don't think
> it should matter), I tried mounting from the fstab file with the
> rw option, I tried mounting from the command line with the -o rw
> option... etc etc. I am baffled. Anybody has any suggestions..
It might be mounting read-write OK, but you could have a permissions
problem. Can you write to the partition as root? If so, try adding
"uid=500" to the options for that mount in etc/fstab, where 500 is
the user ID for the user you want to be able to write to this
partition. Check /etc/passwd for the user IDs corresponding to each
username ...
Dave.
--
Dave Ewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Hard disk on 2nd IDE port
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 00 22:35:00 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Diethard Ohrt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>is the CD), I provided the kernel parameter ide0=ht6560b as suggested in
>the manual. The kernel boots with no complaining (nor affirmative ...)
>messages, but the 2nd device is not recognised: E.g. "fdisk /dev/hdc"
>complains that it cannot connect to the drive.
Just a guess: say ide1=ht6560b??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: Yet another new user
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 00 22:42:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Mark Cubberley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>I just got a new laptop that's setup for Win 2000. I'd like to go out /
>>download a copy of Linux-Mandrake to use as an alternate OS. I'm pretty
>>sure my hard drive only has one partition and from what I've read so
>>far, it's best to have the OS's in separate partitions. Can somebody
>>point me in the right direction to some info on the web or possibly
>>relate your own experience setting up L-M after having Win 2000 already
>>installed? Any help or anything would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>It may not be possible to do unless win2k is installed on a FAT16 filesystem.
>FIPS can resize a DOS (FAT16) partition without difficulty, I have used it
>numerous times without a single glitch.
version 2 of FIPS can handel fat32. That is the way to go.
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux crash for no apparent reason
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:40:15 +0200
Wonder if you can explain:
I'm running Linux 2.0.35 (Caldera Openlinux dist.)
On tty1, I have make modules running.
On tty2, I have top running, with update speed of 3 seconds.
On tty3, I type 'killall -1 syslogd"
The PC reboots. Then I have to wait 20 minutes for all my filesystems to get
scanned.
Can anybody maybe explain this to me? I don't see anything in the logs.
Please, any ideas? PS: This only happened once. I'd love to hear your
theory's of why this happened.
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: which flavour for a 486
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:58:01 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is a howto (or a mini-howto) for the memory-challenged. I forget it's name but
it helped
me to set up two 486s, one with only 8MB.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This message has been posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave
>Ewart)
>
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:13:47 -0500, Ed Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Peet Grobler wrote:
> >
> >> I bought the Caldera Openlinux CD... Installed fine on my 486, though a bit
> >> slow (but what would you expect?)
> >> It actually supports 386 as well. (Don't go there - I did. Too damn slow)
> >>
> >> see www.calderasystems.com
> >>
> >> Dafydd Prichard wrote in message ...
> >> >I want to try out Linux on an old 486 (I 'normally' use Mac OS and a little
> >> >Windows). I've tried both Corel and Mandrake and neither will install from
> >> >the CDs I have as they don't appear to support 486s'. Is Slack the answer?
> >> >Will I have any difficulty buying/downloading a compatible version? Pls
> >> >advise many thanks
> >> >>Daf
> >> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >There are some people out there with Linux distros based on the 2.0.x series
> >kernel, which would be packaged with software from the same era as 486's. For
> >example, I have a copy of RedHat 5.2, but I won't part with it yet. You may be
> >able to download the whole thing, or buy a CD from some vendors still. I'm
> >pretty sure you could get it piecemeal from www.rufus.w3.org .
>
> I agree with your statement about RH 5.2 - it works really nice on a 486,
> although I do have 32MB RAM in the box. You can really improve things if
> you (a) don't install X and (b) compile a custom kernel after everything
> basically works. Be warned that compiling a kernel on a 486 can take
> several hours, but it is worth it in the long run ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave.
> --
> Dave Ewart
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computing Manager
> ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK
--
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
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From: Andrew Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why won't a vfat partition mount read-write
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:59:07 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have this documented on the url below, section 4.10.1
Chetan Ahuja wrote:
> Hi,
> I am trying to share some stuff on a windows 95 partition (FAT16)
> with my linux applications (notably netscape bookmarks). The
> problem is, I simply can't mount my vfat partition in read-write
> mode. I think I have tried everything. The device node (/dev/hda2)
> has read-write permissions for everybody ( Although I don't think
> it should matter), I tried mounting from the fstab file with the
> rw option, I tried mounting from the command line with the -o rw
> option... etc etc. I am baffled. Anybody has any suggestions..
>
> By the way, it's a mndrake 7.0 distro. kernel 2.2.14, mount
> version 2.9z. Any hints clues etc will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Chetan
>
--
Mielipiteet omiani - Opinions personal, facts suspect, especially on my
http://home.germany.net/101-69082/samba.html
Simple Samba Solutions web page. ICQ 1722461
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 10:52:20 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[...]
>
> You've never worked in a big NT installation, have you? My current
job
> involves working with 3 or 4 other people keeping approx. 130 NT
> workstations running and doing (ack) tech support for
students/professors/
> random people who call our phone number.
Well *g* I've worked on bigger networks than that. The site I currently
work at, where I am sitting now typing this reply as it happens, is
bigger than that.
> All the machines are reloaded
> from scratch every month, sometimes more often to keep up with the
latest
> crap^Wsoftware that the profs insist their students use.
Then your problem is software control.. sigh.. we have it here too in
parts, though we just insist that we'll only make changes to the system
at certain set times, and we are lucky enough to make that stick.
Rob Moir
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Windows Benchmarks
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:37:29 -0500
Here in comp.os.linux.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] spake unto us, saying:
>where can I find Linux vs. Windows benchmarks?
Benchmarks doing what? We need more information.
--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>---> Bloomington, MN
OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
+ VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
Fnord.
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From: Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KDAT restore
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:10:38 +0100
Hi all
I have been backing up onto DAT using KDAT with no problems and also
restore within KDAT works. (RH6.1)
What I would really like to be able to do is be able to restore in event
of a disaster ie a new hard disk drive without using kdat.
I have tried getting tar to read the tapes (using my limited experience
of tar) but it complains it doesn't look like a tar archive! Am I
missing something fundamental here??
Any help would be greatly appreciated even if it's to tell me kdat
archives are not intended for disaster recovery + I'm barking.. ;)
Cheers
Alan
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From: Ian Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: blender
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:08:58 +0000
Hi all,
Is there a specific newsgroup for blender questions ?
I just want to know if it's possible to put a circular hole through a
mesh object (I can't see anything about it in the manual)
Rgds,
Ian.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bash
Date: 11 Apr 2000 11:06:59 GMT
<Bryan wrote:
: I asked for help on BASH a while ago, and got some. Thanks. What I'm after now,
: is a list on all or most or many commands and terms used by bash and what they
: mean and what they do.
: Any advice?
man bash. /ommand
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed
Date: 11 Apr 2000 11:02:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:38:06 +0100, Gast Primus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
| wrote:
| >Hi
| >
| >I have been testing an evaluation copy of exceed but my boss says it's too
| >expensive and telnet sessions are next to useless for what we want to do.
| >Does anybody know of a cheap / free alternative to exceed bearing in mind I
| >really only want xterms.
Vnc is what you want. It a free product of AT&T and it is a complete X
server/client product.
More stable than Exceed, a bit slower, but better from architectual point of
view: The client (viewer) is completely separated from the X environment.
Your PC may crash but after a restart your vnc client can re-attach to the X
session as if nothing happened.
Koos Pol
======================================================================
S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Check my email address when you hit "Reply".
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kristjan Kristinsson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:30:38 GMT
Isn't VNC a _VERY_ slow alternative?
Greetings
Kristjan
On 11 Apr 2000 11:02:30 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Koos Pol) wrote:
>| On Tue, 11 Apr 2000 09:38:06 +0100, Gast Primus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>| wrote:
>| >Hi
>| >
>| >I have been testing an evaluation copy of exceed but my boss says it's too
>| >expensive and telnet sessions are next to useless for what we want to do.
>| >Does anybody know of a cheap / free alternative to exceed bearing in mind I
>| >really only want xterms.
>
>Vnc is what you want. It a free product of AT&T and it is a complete X
>server/client product.
>More stable than Exceed, a bit slower, but better from architectual point of
>view: The client (viewer) is completely separated from the X environment.
>Your PC may crash but after a restart your vnc client can re-attach to the X
>session as if nothing happened.
>
>Koos Pol
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>S.C. Pol - Systems Administrator - Compuware Europe B.V. - Amsterdam
>T:+31 20 3116122 F:+31 20 3116200 E:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Check my email address when you hit "Reply".
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From: "Eddie Dubourg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft inhibits competition & innovation
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:47:53 +0100
Harlan Grove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> While Red Hat (and other distributions) charge for updates
> on CDs, they offer _free_ downloads of updates? What's the
> url for Microsoft's free W2K update?
>
http://windowsupdate.com
E
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From: Manoj Patil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Cheap/Free alternatives to Hummingbird eXceed
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:21:16 +0530
Hi !
Try using Free TNTlite products MIXServer. Its a very neat one.... extremely
fast... we have been using here since ages now and are very happy
Maarten Wijnen wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Gast Primus wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I have been testing an evaluation copy of exceed but my boss says it's too
> > expensive and telnet sessions are next to useless for what we want to do.
> > Does anybody know of a cheap / free alternative to exceed bearing in mind I
> > really only want xterms.
>
> If you don't want support for X-applications you could try putty
> (putty.exe in a search engine should give you some download
> location). It's a free ssh/telnet client and it works very nice.
>
> It's just as flexible as an ordinairy xterm.
>
> If you want X-applications, take a look at this posting:
>
> http://www.linux.ie/archive/msg00900.html
>
> >
> > Thanks in anticipation of your help.
> >
> > Iain
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
>
> greetings,
>
> wine
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: kill a zombie process
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:56:59 GMT
On 11 Apr 2000 07:36:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Villy Kruse) wrote:
>On Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:54:47 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Andrew write:
>>> As you said, a zombie process is already dead. It takes up no room in the
>>> process table...
>>
>>Actually that is the only place it does take up room.
>
>
>
>And when you have many of those it does become a problem when you can't
>fork a new process anymore. On zombie is no problem; 200 zombie processes
>will be a problem.
"Plan 9 From Outer Space" ;-)
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant
Toronto Dominion Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: Martha Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: php & mssql
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:57:53 +0200
Hello,
I'm interested in query-ing Microsoft SQL 7 DBM (running on NT) with PHP
3.0.14 as a DSO (running on RedHat Linux). My question is, how i can
enable MS realted functions in php, what libs i need to recompile php.
Somewhere i read that the sybase ct-libs were just fine for me. I
managed to recompile php (enabling sybase-ct support) but than apache
doesn't start beacuse of some unresolved symbols...
Can anybody help me out? If yes please cc the message to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanx in advance...
Peter Martha
Hungary
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From: Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Simple networking question. (for some)
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 21:53:30 +1000
Firstly, I don't know much about networking. I know a bit. I have two
Linux boxes. Both have network cards and they are attached to my hub.
I have managed to set the IP address on both the machines and they can
'ping' one another to they hearts content..
ping 192.168.0.1
or
ping 192.168.0.2
Works both ways. This was good fun for the first 5 seconds but needless
to say, the novilty has worn off.
I would like to be able to get at the files on either machine. Possibly
'mount' the drives on the other machine. Like I said I don't know much
about networking but I am willing to learn.
What should I do next? What commands should I play around with. What
HowTo's should I read? What is possible with this setup of mine?
Thanks.
Brad
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple networking question. (for some)
Date: 11 Apr 2000 12:03:50 GMT
Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I would like to be able to get at the files on either machine. Possibly
: 'mount' the drives on the other machine. Like I said I don't know much
: about networking but I am willing to learn.
: What should I do next? What commands should I play around with. What
Read the NFS-HOWTO.
: HowTo's should I read? What is possible with this setup of mine?
Peter
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From: "Joe M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: some newbie questions
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 00:49:14 +1000
Peet Grobler wrote:
> >i noticed that i could not run programs in there directories ie
> >
> >#cd usr/games/adom
> >#adom
>
> What message do you get?
i get adom is a directory i also noticed that
#./adom
works as well
my man doesn't work i get:
sh: /usr/bin/gtbl: No such file or directory
sh: /usr/bin/groff: No such file or directory
i checked and they are not there. Do i need to install these or
something? by the way i currently only have base installation is this
why?
>If you can't install LDP, let me know, I'll find the url for you.
I've got the url thanks
Joe
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