Linux-Misc Digest #110, Volume #28 Thu, 14 Jun 01 19:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly (Dan)
Re: "GDM Mysteriously Murdered"? (Doug Poulin)
Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 530 Graphics Card (Jesper Petersen)
Screen not responding ("Kalyan")
Re: hardware autodetection (Wroot)
Re: "GDM Mysteriously Murdered"? (David)
Re: hardware autodetection (Michael Heiming)
Re: Excel on an Intranet (Raj Rijhwani)
Re: what was that game? (crschmidt)
Re: Screen not responding (Robert Heller)
Re: hardware autodetection ("Paul E. Bennett")
Re: Screen not responding (Dances With Crows)
Re: MPEG I/II video compressor for Linux? (Dances With Crows)
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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: The pppd daemon died unexpectedly
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 06:58:38 +1000
I use Slackware's pppsetup script to configure the connection, then cd
/etc/ppp and emacs options, uncomment the 'debug' line, then run ppp-go. If
you try this and there are still problems, post the output of ppp-go ...
Dan
Michael Pye wrote:
> I have got slackware working to a reasonable level now, and the rest of
> what I want to do involves the internet.
>
> However, I can't seem to get connected. I am trying to use the Gnome PPP
> dialler utility supplied and every time I try to connect it simply informs
> me that the pppd daemon died unexpectedly. Same applies when trying to
> pull the ppp interface up through other utilities (namely the ppp status
> applet for the panel). Calling /usr/sbin/pppd as root gets me the normal
> garbage printed to stdout.
>
> I was wondering what could be wrong. I tried to use wvdial, but I can't
> find it installed...
>
> TIA
>
> MP
>
>
>
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From: Doug Poulin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "GDM Mysteriously Murdered"?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:06:41 GMT
Missy, if this is still hanging you up, it has caused me much grief when
it happened!
Do this (it works for me)...
boot up single user.
edit (with pico or vi) /etc/inittab
Set your default runlevel to 3.
You will be able to boot, and once booted, just type "startx" (without
quotes).
joseph wrote:
>
> Well, once you schedule a cron job ( similar to the At command under NT but
> far better ) , the output of the program or what would have been written to
> the screen had you run it from a terminal, is mailed to you using the
> system's mail spooler.
>
> MDK 7.2 came with 3.3.6 and 4.0.1
>
> Check the X server that you are using. I think the A50 and all are supported
> in the 4.0.1
> You could of course download the 20 MB tarball for X server and install it
> according to the included docs.
> I've done that on more than one ocassion, and it seems to go fine.
>
> later.
>
> "Missy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Yea, I've been told that I forgot to do some things! I only did make
> > xconfig, make dep, make clean, make bzImage. lol I was looking at an
> > older book on compiling, and I don't think it mentioned the part about
> > modules. I have a Diamond Speedstar A50, ummm whatever X server that
> > came with Mandrake 7.2. No, I didn't install the image! Esp. since it
> > didn't work! I'll have to check out the logs, and come back (I'm in
> > Windows :P) But thanks, I'll definitely have to check it out....I
> > never heard of a computer sending a user 'mail'! lol
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:11:48 -0400, "joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >The numbers are the process id's .
> > >GDM is responsible for letting you log in.
> > >
> > >What kind of a video card do you have? What is the version of the X
> server
> > >that you are running?
> > >
> > >what about the configuration file?
> > >
> > >Usually when a kernel compile fails, it does not try to install the new
> > >kernel. I wonder you did other than "compiling" the kernel.
> > >did you do a "make bzImage install" or something??
> > >
> > >
> > >what does /var/log/messages hold ? IF you are using any X server 4.0 and
> > >up, you should have an XFree86.log file in /var/log/ . What does it say ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >about your mail:
> > >
> > >this is not the "E" - mail that you think of. this is a mail stored in a
> > >file on your computer. there are serveral daemons that communicate with
> you
> > >using the on board mail system.
> > >at the prompt, type "mail"
> > >when you get some sort of a prompt, type list or somsething.
> > >
> > >If you see numbers there, those are message numbers. have a look at what
> > >happened. ( I think you have to type th message number to open it) .
> > >
> > >
> > >anyways, you can go back to the /usr/src/linux directory and do
> > >make clean
> > >
> > >then do "make menuconfig"
> > >Now you should be somewhere where the howto can assist you.
> > >
> > >Just a note :
> > >After you make the kernel ( bzImage or what ever) , you have to make the
> > >modules and move them into the appropriate kernel version directory in
> > >/lib/modules.
> > >
> > >have a look see in there to get a feel of the layout.
> > >
> > >hth.
> > >
> > >
> > >"Missy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> For the first time, I recompiled my Mandrake kernel - never saw so
> > >> much text whiz by at once! lol But, I did something wrong, and it
> > >> doesn't really work - I can't get Xwindows to work, so I was stuck
> > >> with a console. And when I wasn't typed it kept spitting the same
> > >> message at me:
> > >> according to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (1312), but
> > >> seems to have been murdered mysteriously.
> > >> It was that same message over and over, but with different numbers
> > >> (1339, 1350, 1361, etc). Then when I logged in as root, it told me
> > >> that I had mail. :P That's impossible! The modem doesn't work with
> > >> Linux, and I'm not on a network. lol I used to make xconfig to
> > >> compile, and cut out all the networking stuff (I'm not a on a network
> > >> anyways), most of the soundcards. What could have caused this? It also
> > >> told me a I had modules missing (one was 180 I think). Like I said
> > >> alot of text whizzing by.....
> > >>
> > >> Melissa
> > >> http://missy842.tripod.com/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > http://missy842.tripod.com/
--
Doug Poulin
MIS Specialist
Net to Net Technologies
603-427-0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jesper Petersen <jesperp**Delete**@nork.auc.dk>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 530 Graphics Card
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:08:15 +0200
>You need to make sure that the symlink /etc/X11/X points to the right
>version of XFree. Under Mandrake, this pointed to
>/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA for 3.3.6 and now points to
>/usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 now that I'm using 4.0.3. It's probably the same
>or similar for Red Hat.
Thanks, I just found out before I read your message, but that was exactly the
problem!
Thanks
Jesper
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From: "Kalyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Screen not responding
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:08:43 -0700
I am running Red Hat v7.0 on my machine with GNOME. As a root after removing
the cdrom from the drive, I gave 'umount /mnt/cdrom' command, for which it
is giving the error '/mnt/cdrom device is busy'. Because of that I gave the
*fuser -km /mnt* command. After that the screen stopped responding, even if
I give CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or CTRL+ALT+DEL, it is not responding. Can any one
suggest me what should I do.
TIA
Chakravarthy K Sannedhi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Wroot)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: hardware autodetection
Date: 14 Jun 2001 14:46:46 -0700
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> In alt.os.linux Wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > P.S. What can be automated should be automated.
>
> And exactly what is that?
When I ask a question about how to get something to work, I often get the kind
of advice that can be regarded as an algorithm. Why not just put it in the code
_once_ and make _thousands_ of lives easier?
Wroot
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "GDM Mysteriously Murdered"?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:46:54 GMT
Doug Poulin wrote:
>
> Missy, if this is still hanging you up, it has caused me much grief when
> it happened!
> Do this (it works for me)...
>
> boot up single user.
> edit (with pico or vi) /etc/inittab
>
> Set your default runlevel to 3.
> You will be able to boot, and once booted, just type "startx" (without
> quotes).
>
> joseph wrote:
> >
> > Well, once you schedule a cron job ( similar to the At command under NT but
> > far better ) , the output of the program or what would have been written to
> > the screen had you run it from a terminal, is mailed to you using the
> > system's mail spooler.
> >
> > MDK 7.2 came with 3.3.6 and 4.0.1
> >
> > Check the X server that you are using. I think the A50 and all are supported
> > in the 4.0.1
> > You could of course download the 20 MB tarball for X server and install it
> > according to the included docs.
> > I've done that on more than one ocassion, and it seems to go fine.
> >
> > later.
> >
> > "Missy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Yea, I've been told that I forgot to do some things! I only did make
> > > xconfig, make dep, make clean, make bzImage. lol I was looking at an
> > > older book on compiling, and I don't think it mentioned the part about
> > > modules. I have a Diamond Speedstar A50, ummm whatever X server that
> > > came with Mandrake 7.2. No, I didn't install the image! Esp. since it
> > > didn't work! I'll have to check out the logs, and come back (I'm in
> > > Windows :P) But thanks, I'll definitely have to check it out....I
> > > never heard of a computer sending a user 'mail'! lol
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:11:48 -0400, "joseph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >The numbers are the process id's .
> > > >GDM is responsible for letting you log in.
> > > >
> > > >What kind of a video card do you have? What is the version of the X
> > server
> > > >that you are running?
> > > >
> > > >what about the configuration file?
> > > >
> > > >Usually when a kernel compile fails, it does not try to install the new
> > > >kernel. I wonder you did other than "compiling" the kernel.
> > > >did you do a "make bzImage install" or something??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >what does /var/log/messages hold ? IF you are using any X server 4.0 and
> > > >up, you should have an XFree86.log file in /var/log/ . What does it say ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >about your mail:
> > > >
> > > >this is not the "E" - mail that you think of. this is a mail stored in a
> > > >file on your computer. there are serveral daemons that communicate with
> > you
> > > >using the on board mail system.
> > > >at the prompt, type "mail"
> > > >when you get some sort of a prompt, type list or somsething.
> > > >
> > > >If you see numbers there, those are message numbers. have a look at what
> > > >happened. ( I think you have to type th message number to open it) .
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >anyways, you can go back to the /usr/src/linux directory and do
> > > >make clean
> > > >
> > > >then do "make menuconfig"
> > > >Now you should be somewhere where the howto can assist you.
> > > >
> > > >Just a note :
> > > >After you make the kernel ( bzImage or what ever) , you have to make the
> > > >modules and move them into the appropriate kernel version directory in
> > > >/lib/modules.
> > > >
> > > >have a look see in there to get a feel of the layout.
> > > >
> > > >hth.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"Missy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> For the first time, I recompiled my Mandrake kernel - never saw so
> > > >> much text whiz by at once! lol But, I did something wrong, and it
> > > >> doesn't really work - I can't get Xwindows to work, so I was stuck
> > > >> with a console. And when I wasn't typed it kept spitting the same
> > > >> message at me:
> > > >> according to /var/run/gdm.pid, gdm was already running (1312), but
> > > >> seems to have been murdered mysteriously.
> > > >> It was that same message over and over, but with different numbers
> > > >> (1339, 1350, 1361, etc). Then when I logged in as root, it told me
> > > >> that I had mail. :P That's impossible! The modem doesn't work with
> > > >> Linux, and I'm not on a network. lol I used to make xconfig to
> > > >> compile, and cut out all the networking stuff (I'm not a on a network
> > > >> anyways), most of the soundcards. What could have caused this? It also
> > > >> told me a I had modules missing (one was 180 I think). Like I said
> > > >> alot of text whizzing by.....
> > > >>
> > > >> Melissa
> > > >> http://missy842.tripod.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > http://missy842.tripod.com/
Take a look in /var/run and look for a "gdm.pid" file. If it is there
and you are in a text console then you need to delete that file and then
restart "xfs"
rm -f /var/run/gdm.pid
/etc/rc.d/init.d/xfs restart
Then you can try "startx" if that works then logout and go back to a
text console and enter "gdm" this should take you to the login screen.
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.252% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:07:42 +0200
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: hardware autodetection
Wroot wrote:
>
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > In alt.os.linux Wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > P.S. What can be automated should be automated.
> >
> > And exactly what is that?
>
> When I ask a question about how to get something to work, I often get the kind
> of advice that can be regarded as an algorithm. Why not just put it in the code
> _once_ and make _thousands_ of lives easier?
Perhaps, the distro/system you asked for, are aimed to people who know
what they are doing. As there is no need for any nifty config tool, to
handle
Linux, bash, vi and some (tons) of those great GNU tools will be enough.
If you want to use a system that does everything for you, get the distro
which
can do this, that's what Linux is about:
choice
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raj Rijhwani)
Subject: Re: Excel on an Intranet
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:59:48 +0100 (BST)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 14 Jun, in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Cliff" wrote:
> I am trying to setup an Excel spreadsheet on a Linux box running
> Apache, to be able to be updated by multilple people and written back
> to the server so that it will be completely readable and writeable by
> the select group of people.
> Is this possible? I have had a similar spreadsheet set up but on an NT
> server. Can anyone help me out or tell me it is impossible and I will
> look at something else.
You'll need to set up Samba, make the file accessible in a Samba share
to the users in question, the share itself actually residing on the
directory that Apache serves the file from. Mind you, Samba is
probably the better basis for the whole thing. Make the file writable
by those who have update access, and read-only to the rest of the
world.
> I will be checking back but if you could email me I would appreciate
> it.
No. Newsgroups are a public medium for pubic exchange, not a private
support forum. Your question, and following discussion, may be
informative to other readers.
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] | ... We know that you can hear us Earthmen
http://www.rijhwani.org/raj/ | "Lieutenant Green: Launch all Angels!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (crschmidt)
Subject: Re: what was that game?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:27:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on the calculator it was always called Insane - but that's obviously
not linux :-0
"Jcarnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to find the name and eventually the source code for a game that
>came with one of the 6.x versions of Red Hat linux. It might have been
>"marbles" or "sameGame"? It was played by clicking on a colored sphere, and
>all like-colored spheres touching it would then disappear, and the stack
>would drop down.... Any Ideas?
>thanks
>
>
c r s c h m i d t @ a v e n e w . c o m
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Screen not responding
Date: 14 Jun 2001 22:47:50 GMT
"Kalyan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:08:43 -0700, wrote :
"> I am running Red Hat v7.0 on my machine with GNOME. As a root after removing
"> the cdrom from the drive, I gave 'umount /mnt/cdrom' command, for which it
"> is giving the error '/mnt/cdrom device is busy'. Because of that I gave the
"> *fuser -km /mnt* command. After that the screen stopped responding, even if
"> I give CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or CTRL+ALT+DEL, it is not responding. Can any one
"> suggest me what should I do.
You SHOULD NOT remove the CD-ROM until *after* you do the 'umount
/mnt/cdrom'. Re-insert the CD-ROM in the drive, and the system will
come back to life. Really! It appears you have a 'brain dead' CD-ROM
drive -- cannot 'lock' the media in the drive: Linux does give the
command to the drive to 'lock'.
The *same* rules apply to floppy disks, zip drives, and other removable media.
Note that for *most* removable media devices, you *cannot* eject the
media until after you (successfully) execute the umount command. PC
floppies are not lockable, though. And I guess your CD-ROM drive is
also not lockable as well.
You cannot umount a disk which has open files, including directories.
Close all file manager windows relating to the file system in question
(/mnt/cdrom/...). Kill or exit from any programs running from the CD.
Close any programs accessing files on the CD (i.e 'gv /mnt/cdrom/foo.pdf').
">
"> TIA
"> Chakravarthy K Sannedhi
">
">
">
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Paul E. Bennett")
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: hardware autodetection
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 01 21:40:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Wroot" writes:
>
> Wroot
> P.S. What can be automated should be automated.
So long as it is automated in a robust and resilient fashion.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Screen not responding
Date: 14 Jun 2001 23:08:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:08:43 -0700, Kalyan staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>As a root after removing the cdrom from the drive, I gave 'umount
>/mnt/cdrom' command,
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Unless you have some seriously old kit, there is no
way in hell that you should be able to remove a CD-ROM from a CD-ROM
drive that is mounted. Modern hardware has a "lock drive door" command,
and the kernel issues this command when a medium is mounted, only
issuing the "unlock drive door" command when it's umounted successfully.
>for which it is giving the error '/mnt/cdrom device is busy'. Because
>of that I gave the *fuser -km /mnt* command. After that the screen
>stopped responding, even if I give CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE or CTRL+ALT+DEL,
>it is not responding. Can any one suggest me what should I do.
"Doctor, it hurts when I try to cram myself into a 24"x24"x24" box!"
"Well, Don't Do That, Then."
If your drive does not honor the "lock drive door" command and will let
you eject a CD-ROM when said CD-ROM is mounted, you will have to be
careful. Don't eject a CD-ROM until after you've umounted it. The
kernel is getting confused because it thinks there is a CD-ROM in the
drive when there is none, and this is most likely behind the freeze you
saw.
For the long term, go buy a newer CD-ROM. Some units can flake out in
unpredictable ways, and you can pick up a 24x IDE unit for roughly $30
from http://www.pricewatch.com .
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best
http://www.brainbench.com / friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark
=============================/ to read. ==Groucho Marx
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: MPEG I/II video compressor for Linux?
Date: 14 Jun 2001 23:08:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 14 Jun 2001 17:58:07 GMT, Joshua Baker-LePain staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>David Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I'm experimenting with the 3D animation capabilities of POVRay 3.
>> Does anybody know of any software I could use on my Mandrake 7.1 or
>> Redhat 6.1 distros to turn a sequence of several hundred .tga files
>> (for example) into a .mpg file?
>
>'man convert'
>Part of the ImageMagick suite.
convert doesn't do MPEG AFAICT. For MPEG, you want either the old
standby, mpeg_encode (search freshmeat, have forgotten the exact URL) or
something like Broadcast2000 at http://heroinewarrior.com/ .
mpeg_encode, while it's not there in the UI department, Just Works. I'm
not sure about the other package because a) the author can't be bothered
to make RPMs in anything other than version 4, for RedHat 7.x only b)
the source code throws up hundreds of compiler errors c) compiling a
small utility package from the same author required me to parse the
compiler errors and hand-hack the Makefile to make it work right.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best
http://www.brainbench.com / friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark
=============================/ to read. ==Groucho Marx
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