Linux-Misc Digest #117, Volume #21 Thu, 22 Jul 99 00:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: My Linux box was hacked! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Encypted filesystems on /dev/loop (ryan)
Re: freshmeat.net (Justin B Willoughby)
Newbie with what seems to be something missing (Eric Powell)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Christopher Browne)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Steve Mading)
[?] /lib/* & /sbin/init (jauming)
Re: freshmeat.net (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network? (Justin B Willoughby)
Re: Lost access to /usr and /bin - URGENT ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MkLinux on LAN (Li-Jen Chang)
Re: freshmeat.net (Ian Briggs)
SuSE-6.1 KDE (Kbase) Update Broken Link? ("Youngert")
Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks (Jerry Lapham)
Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Quicken clone? (Christopher B. Browne)
Re: Selecting GUIs? (root)
Re: Quicken clone? (Ian Briggs)
Browser for RH 5.2 Alpha (jim caldwell)
SuperGuru ran mkswap on 2gig ext2 filesys (Ken Corson)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Peter Seebach)
Re: Quicken clone? (Christopher B. Browne)
tape backup device under Linux (Matthew Hixson)
Re: gnome task bar ("Duy D.")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:23:37 GMT
> hehehe.. Linux already comes with TCPD install.. as far back as
> 1995.
>
> Charlie
i just installed tcpd over telnet and finger, and all those fun
programs. but whenever i telnet to localhost, i get into an identd war
with myself. any ideas why that is? the identd looks up the owner of
the identd, ad infinitum.
jon
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From: ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Encypted filesystems on /dev/loop
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 21:33:28 -0400
I am trying to set up an encrypted filesystem on a file with the loop
device. I went to ftp.kerneli.org and got the international kernel
crypto patch for my kernel 2.2.9 (Mandrake).
After recompiling the kernel to include loopback filesystems and the
crypt support, I created a file using the command 'dd if=/dev/zero
of=/file bs=1k count=100'. This works fine.
Next I try 'losetup -e des /dev/loop0 /file'. After entering a
password, losetup prompts for 'Init (up to 16 Hex digits):'. I try to
enter some hex digits here, but no matter what I enter I get the
response ']ioctl: LOOP_SET_STATUS: invalid argument'.
Has anyone tried this? What am I doing wrong here? Running 'dmesg'
shows that the loop device was setup.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Ryan T. Rhea
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: freshmeat.net
Date: 22 Jul 1999 01:35:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Anita Lewis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> I just went there. http://www.freshmeat.net/ right?
>
Its still not up as far as I can tell... 2130EST 07/21
- Justin
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From: Eric Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.config
Subject: Newbie with what seems to be something missing
Date: 22 Jul 1999 02:31:10 GMT
O.K., right now I have a "driver" that's not in the choices when installing
or configuring for my video card (86C365) on a floppy. After much grief, I
finally got my kernel on my system (most of the grief came from the fact
that my CD-ROM only works half the time, sometimes it just won't spin the
disk (I have theory the computer thinks it's open, any help?)), the only
problem is, both the "Linux for Dummies" and the HOWTO says to use the make
config (or menuconfig) command, and when I'm in /usr/src/linux I type it in
and it says there is no suck command.
So here's the deal. First off I want to configure the kernel because the
book says I should, if anything, because I have a P2 level processor.
Secondly, I think that's how I would get the video driver on there. If
this isn't the proper procedure, please tell me how to get this driver
(SavageX-0_2_0_tar.tar) from my floppy on the drive and configure it.
Thanks a million (hopefully this little bit will help greatly).
Eric Powell
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:45:46 GMT
On 20 Jul 1999 17:56:02 -0400, Donovan Rebbechi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 20 Jul 1999 21:44:00 +0200, Matthias Warkus wrote:
>>It was the Tue, 20 Jul 1999 13:03:29 +0600...
>>..and U. Art <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Phil Ward wrote:
>
>>At least Stallman has written non-negligible amounts of relevant code
>>in his life.
>
>I'd hardly call ESR's contributions ( parts of ncurses, giflib, and fetchmail )
>as well as the XFree86 video timings howto "negligeable". It's certainly
>not as impressive as RMS's contribution, but it's a lot better than nothing.
>Look at it this way: it's pretty hard to do much with linux if you don't use
>ESR's software.
I don't use most of that stuff; in contrast, I could not *possibly*
use Linux without using RMS's software.
Furthermore, ESR's contributions to code have primarily been at the
"refinement" level rather than at the "designing from scratch" level,
which tends to be easier.
RMS appears to have "graduated" from being a *prolific* coder to being
rather more of a politician. (I think we'd be better off with him
doing more coding, but that would take far too much explaining to not
sound like a big slam...)
In contrast, ESR's "career" better reflects having "graduated" from
writing books to doing "politics."
--
"...Unix, MS-DOS, and Windows NT (also known as the Good, the Bad, and
the Ugly)." -- Matt Welsh
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Date: 22 Jul 1999 02:22:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I don't use most of that stuff; in contrast, I could not *possibly*
: use Linux without using RMS's software.
Do you even know what 'ncurses' is? It is used by almost all the
linux terminal programs that do screen manipulation (all text editors,
news readers, 'midnight commander', likely even RMS's own Emacs.)
Saying that you don't 'use' ncurses is like saying you don't 'use'
the C library.
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From: jauming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [?] /lib/* & /sbin/init
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 01:36:41 GMT
we are porting linux to mipsel-linux-idt-r3k
the kernel is almost ready now.
question is:
how to prepare "/lib/*" (shared library) for elf-executable ?
& "/sbin/init" ?
thx in advanced!:)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: freshmeat.net
Date: 22 Jul 1999 02:30:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Gergo Barany ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> In article <7n5sgm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Justin B Willoughby wrote:
>>
>>Anita Lewis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
>>> I just went there. http://www.freshmeat.net/ right?
>>>
>>
>>Its still not up as far as I can tell... 2130EST 07/21
>
> Have you tried using a mirror?
>
Actually I did not know it had any mirrors, I must have missed the link on
their page...
- Justin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Subject: Re: hook a normal printer directly up to a network?
Date: 22 Jul 1999 01:39:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Justin B Willoughby)
Human ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) writes:
> But then the problem will be how could I print postscript or from
> netscape to that printer on the network using external print server?
You should be able to setup your printcap on one of your Linux boxes to use
lpd to print to that print server. Then use samba to share that printer for
your Windows workstations.
- Justin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Lost access to /usr and /bin - URGENT
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:39:37 GMT
Hi, all,
Thanks for all of you who replied and helped. I found something
simplier: ctrl-alt-F2 and login as root. Altho I can't su (cuz su is in
/bin), I am able to login from another console (that isn't considered
as remote login that I disabled).
Phew!
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From: Li-Jen Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: MkLinux on LAN
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:50:28 GMT
Arwen Long wrote:
> I'm running MkLinux on a G3 Pwbk. The modem isn't yet supported, so I'm trying
> to set up for a LAN- where do I start? Do I have to set up a server (not the
> best, my IP address is currently variable) or setup outside of X-Win.... ?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Arwen
1.Try an external modem..
2.To hook to a LAN, you had better have a ethernet card,
Is there any MkLinux-recconizable ethernet card in your pwbk?
if so, you can turn on DHCP to get an IP address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Subject: Re: freshmeat.net
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:28:16 GMT
Bob Batson wrote:
:Does anyone know what seems to the matter with http://freshmeat.net ?
I was just about to post about this. As far as I can see, nothing has
been updated at Freshmeat since Monday. And I'm also having difficulty
connecting to them.
Ian
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From: "Youngert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuSE-6.1 KDE (Kbase) Update Broken Link?
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:50:20 -0400
I just updated my SuSE-6.1 KDE's base system with the latest update from
SuSE and found all the icons broken, except the logout icon, i.e. clicking
or double clicking the konsole icon will not bring up a konsole. FYI, the
upgrade process went smooth with no problem. What could I have done wrong?
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Lapham)
Subject: Re: editorial: Stupid Linux Tricks
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:53:16
In <7n2tc1$7mb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/20/99
at 05:33 PM, "David Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> Apparently the killer app for MSDOS was Lotus 123. PCs originally did
> have MSDOS and CPM86 available for them. Lotus 123 came out for DOS and
> that was pretty much the end of the story for CPM.
> David.
> >Can anyone recall whether there was a similar situation with respect to the
> >IBM-PC or PC/XT, i.e., operating systems other than MS-DOS but which never
> >had a chance in the marketplace because of the price difference?
When I bought my TI Professional PC in December, 1983, I had my choice of
MS-DOS for $40 or CP/M86 or the UCSD P-System for around $75.
-Jerry
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Karl Marx was fat and hairy chap
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:10:09 GMT
On 22 Jul 1999 02:22:18 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
posted:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>: I don't use most of that stuff; in contrast, I could not *possibly*
>: use Linux without using RMS's software.
>
>Do you even know what 'ncurses' is? It is used by almost all the
>linux terminal programs that do screen manipulation (all text editors,
>news readers, 'midnight commander', likely even RMS's own Emacs.)
>Saying that you don't 'use' ncurses is like saying you don't 'use'
>the C library.
Did ESR *write* it?
He was responsible for its management between versions 1.82 and 1.88.
That is by no means "no" involvement, but it's now significantly
rearchitected at version 4.2.
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try to do it with ten blunt axes instead.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Quicken clone?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:10:07 GMT
On Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:28:17 GMT, Ian Briggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Leonard Evens wrote:
>:Are there any open software checkbook programs out there?
>
>As I recall, Linuxberg lists a few basic bookkeeping/accounting packages.
>
>GnuCash is the principal project -- but it seems to be taking forever, and
>I'm wondering if it's destined to stay in beta and then just disappear. I
>wanted to try a beta, but its README listed so many libraries which I
>didn't have, that I got fed up of trying to locate and download them all.
The "too many libraries" problem is being resolved.
And it appears that developers are trying to be a bit more careful about
not proposing vast numbers of "cool" new features that result in putting
off stability still further.
>Moneydance costs money, and looks good, but its reports let it down badly.
>(Generally speaking, poor reports are a common problem with database-type
>applications. I think a lot of developers get bored when it comes to
>writing the output-formatting routines.)
>
>Basically I looked hard, but found nothing for Linux that comes even
>*remotely* close to Quicken or MS Money. I'd love to hear that I've
>missed something wonderful.
Look at CBB; it has been working for several years now. It's not got
the investment management code, but it's pretty stable at this point.
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repetition, and seduction."
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Selecting GUIs?
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 22:19:24 -0400
Brett Lanham wrote:
>
KDE is great, oh yea touch a file in /etc/sysconfig called "desktop" and
in the file put youre favorite windows manager, like KDE. thats will
make it the default. if you want to go further, you can edit
/etc/inittab , like this
x:5:respawn:/etc/X11/prefdm -nodaemon
Ok thats the default, and in the KDE docs it tells ya to make it
x:5:respawn:/usr/bin/kdm -nodaemon
> Isn't gnome actually a desktop environment like kde is whereas afterstep
> is just a window manager. I'd recommend window maker. Yes I know your
> asking how to switch and this had nothing to do with that, sorry.
>
> brett
>
> Brent Davies wrote:
> >
> > I _know_ this is a lame question, but I'm not affraid to admit that I'm
> > still a beginner.
> >
> > I just installed RH6 and Gnome was the default Xwindows GUI. I switched to
> > AfterStep (because I like it), but I noticed that there isn't a nice easy
> > (graphical) way to switch it back to Gnome.
> >
> > How to I manually edit the Xwindows environment to reflect the fact that I'd
> > like the X Server to load Gnome instead of AfterStep?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > -Brent
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Briggs)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Quicken clone?
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 02:28:17 GMT
Leonard Evens wrote:
:Are there any open software checkbook programs out there?
As I recall, Linuxberg lists a few basic bookkeeping/accounting packages.
GnuCash is the principal project -- but it seems to be taking forever, and
I'm wondering if it's destined to stay in beta and then just disappear. I
wanted to try a beta, but its README listed so many libraries which I
didn't have, that I got fed up of trying to locate and download them all.
Moneydance costs money, and looks good, but its reports let it down badly.
(Generally speaking, poor reports are a common problem with database-type
applications. I think a lot of developers get bored when it comes to
writing the output-formatting routines.)
Basically I looked hard, but found nothing for Linux that comes even
*remotely* close to Quicken or MS Money. I'd love to hear that I've
missed something wonderful.
Ian
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From: jim caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Browser for RH 5.2 Alpha
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 20:31:25 -0700
Hi All,
I think this has been asked before but...I'm new to the Linux world.
I just installed RH 5.2 on my Alpha (xl366) and everthing seems to
be working fine. The Apache server started and runs as advertised
but I'd kinda like to be able to see my (and other) web pages without
going to my Unix box. Is there any grapical browser for Alpha Linux
around that anyone would like to share?
thanks,
jim
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From: Ken Corson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: SuperGuru ran mkswap on 2gig ext2 filesys
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:58:28 -0400
I've always considered myself somewhat of a UNIX guru, until now...
I had a healthy 2 gig ext2 filesystem (2072385 1k blocks) living at
/dev/hda3. In my haste to create some badly needed swap space, I ran
mkswap to create a swap partition over /dev/hdb3...
trouble is, the crazy fool system did what I was typing , not what I was
thinking (I'm yearning for one of those newfangled neural input
devices-but I suppose a keyboard must suffice for now :)
I am trying to develop a proper course of recovery. I did NOT swapon
/dev/hda3, nor can I remount this partition as ext2. I've tried "e2fsck
-n /dev/hda3" :
e2fsck 1.14, 9-Jan-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
Couldn't find ext2 superblock, trying backup blocks...
/dev/hda3 was not cleanly unmounted, check forced.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
<followed by many>
Free inodes count wrong for group #250 (2048, counted=2035).
Fix? no
Directories count wrong for group #250 (0, counted=2).
Fix? no
<for groups 0-251>
/dev/hda3: 11/518144 files (472.7% non-contiguous), 67565/2072385 blocks
I've been a long-time Linux user, and I would like to contribute a
change to hopefully prevent anyone else from engaging in this type of
problem. The software combination I run is:
kernel 2.2.10 , glibc-2.0.7pre6 , egcs-1.1.2 , e2fsprogs-1.14.tar.gz ,
and util-linux-2.9i.tar.gz (for mkswap)
I have the impression that Linux cannot use swap partitions greater than
128M. Of course this is UNIX, so the system will do what you command.
Nevertheless, I would like to augment mkswap to have some extra logic to
warn the user first if they try to mkswap on a partition with the
incorrect type code (not 82), or with more than 128M of space. Of course
it is valid to run mkswap on a file, or even if the space does exceed
128M. This is assuming that swap partitions really cannot exceed 128M.
First though, I would like to get my data back. Any suggestions are
appreciated (I already plan to 'read the source' for mkswap, to see what
I did). I am a stickler for finding the most efficient solution to a
problem, unless great learning can be derived from a more expensive
route...
I am troubled by the 11/518144 files report. I am comforted by the fact
that mkswap only ran for well under 1 second. I had thousands of files
on that filesystem. I have experimented briefly by repeating this
process on a 1G throw-away partition. Prior to running mkswap, the file
count appears correct. After running mkswap, the file count is reduced
to 11, and debugfs refuses to open the (corrupted) filesystem.
I will bestow LINUX/TSG certification on anyone with an effective
solution (a "Truly Super Guru") :)
Ken
Long Live Linux! Hip Hip Hurrah. Hip Hip Hurrah. Hip Hip Hurrah.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Seebach)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:03:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Show me an animal that is intelligent, creative, literate and capable
>of abstract thought. Then I'll agree with you.
This is begging the question. If we are animals, then we are an example of
animals capable of abstract thought. If we aren't, then we are not such an
example.
Now, that said, there's a number of documented behaviors in "animals" that
look suspiciously like any of the above except 'literate'.
>> But we aren't "different from animals". We are a subset. We still have
>> the traditional traits of animals.
>I have some traits of my father, but nevertheless I am not my father.
>Neither am I a subset of my father.
Your father is not a class, your father is an instant. If you have all
of the defining traits of members of a class, you are a member of the class.
e.g., you are a member of the group of "people named Matthias", even if
you are not otherwise like any of them.
>> It is important to understand how we got to be where we are, and what some
>> of the roots of our nature are, if we are to make useful progress
>> understanding ourselves.
>Man is not an animal. That's a simple opinion. It's by no means
>connected to the ignorance and arrogance you talk about.
It's an opinion, but really, I think you're arguing over the definition
of the term "animal". Animals are a kingdom; we are in that kingdom. We
are not plants, we are not fungi, etcetera, but we are alive, so we're gonna
be categorized somewhere.
-s
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To: redhat.general
Subject: Re: Quicken clone?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 03:10:06 GMT
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999 19:55:40 -0500, Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>Are there any open software checkbook programs out there?
>
>Since 1982 I have been using my own program which I wrote
>on an original IBM PC (without a hard disk) in Pascal.
>I recently started using Quicken for reasons I won't go
>into here, but comparing it with my program, it does not
>seem to do that much more. Of course Quicken has a nice graphical
>user interface and lots of bells and whistles, but that
>doesn't seem so hard to arrange with the programming tools
>now available. And one could easily store the data in
>Quicken QIF format for interchangeability. I can't imagine
>that I am the only one who has ever written such a program.
See the URL below for a list of relevant packages. CBB is about five
years old, and quite mature. GnuCash is beginning to mature.
--
It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to
try to do it with ten blunt axes instead.
-- Edsger W. Dijkstra
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From: Matthew Hixson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: tape backup device under Linux
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 18:17:16 -0700
Can anyone recommend a tape backup device for use under Linux? This is
to go into a machine with an ASUS P2B-DS motherboard (supports SCSI).
The machine is currently running kernel 2.2.6, but I can upgrade it if
necessary.
Any adivce is welcomed.
-M@
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From: "Duy D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gnome task bar
Date: Wed, 21 Jul 1999 23:11:52 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi. I had kde and it was great. Now I just tried GNOME
> and I found a little big problem
>
> I have apps in the task bar. So I want to switch from one to
> another. I clik and the app doesn't raise !
>
> It gets the focus I know but I want this windows to pop up
> the first in front.
>
> I have spent many hours reading helps and trying settings.
> I searched deja news and I found 4 messages related in
> alt.tech.linux and the conclusion was 3steps:
>
> 1.- click in the app in the task bar with the right button
> 2.- it pops a menu, select raise/hide
> 3.- click on the icon at the right
>
> three steps for just raising a window seems too much !
> there must be a way.
>
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In the gnome-control center, choose "All pop up windows get focus" and
"All new windows get focus" options shoud do the trick (atleast for me,
mandrake 6). However, sometimes the pop up windows don't get keyboard
focus, which is still a pain in the a..... Any way, gnome+enlightenment
is still not as stable as kde.
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