Linux-Misc Digest #194, Volume #21 Wed, 28 Jul 99 12:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: case tool for linux (Ray Cadmus)
RH6 timezone (jerrad pierce)
PKZIP Cracker? (David Mcilroy)
Re: Good IRC client for Linux? (Terry Porter)
linux backup facility? (David Freeman)
Re: Looking for a good email client (Jon Bloom)
What is the use of /boot/System.map (Raymond Li)
Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Starting GUI login Q ("David Eno")
please, urgent, EXECV, how it's running ?!? (Cyriac REMY)
Inserting links crashes netscape (Jim McIntyre)
Linux has finally crashed (K Kal)
VNC for 2.2...? ("Brian D. Jones")
Re: Linux has finally crashed (Russell Suter)
Re: What I think of linux. (Jay Fink)
Re: Linux has finally crashed (Lew Pitcher)
Re: POP Mail? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: VNC for 2.2...? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Ray Cadmus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: case tool for linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:48:20 -0500
Try ARGO at:
http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/arch/uml/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am searching for some sort of casetool for linux. Preferrably free, and
> be able to handle OMT and/or UML. Something similar to Rational Rose for
> Windows.
>
> Thanks in advance, and please cc to the mailaddy above.
>
> Niclas Anderberg
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From: jerrad pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH6 timezone
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:20:58 -0400
How do you change a system's timezone in RH6 (EST->GMT)? I've heard from previous
versions to use /usr/lib/timeinfo or something, but I have no such directory on my
system.
Also, is there a manner which will not require a reboot?
PS> Please (b)cc me with any replies, thanks!
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From: David Mcilroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PKZIP Cracker?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:18:40 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have some files I compressed from Winblows with a password, and I've
forgotten the password. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good
linux-based zip-cracker?
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Crossposted-To: alt.irc.questions
Subject: Re: Good IRC client for Linux?
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 28 Jul 1999 21:04:32 +0800
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:50:47 GMT, LelaB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 20 Jul 1999 18:17:34 -0700, "Noah Roberts (jik-)"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Stefan Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a good IRC client for Linux/X11. I'm used to mIRC a bit,
>>> but that isn't available for X, is it?
>>
>>ircii as the engine, and tkirc as the gui front end. Then you have an
>>irc client for console AND X. Also tkirc is the best X irc IMHO, and
>>I have tried those that other people mentioned and they didn't stand
>>under scrutiny.
>if you use W.I.N.E. you can run mirc and many other windows apps under
>linux if you so choose
Try Xchat, its pretty good, and similar to Mirc. Tho I must admit I still
prefer "BitchX".
http://xchat.linuxpower.org/
terry
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From: David Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,redhat.general
Subject: linux backup facility?
Date: 28 Jul 1999 12:31:18 GMT
I recently had to re-install linux (redhat 6.0) on a blank disk.
My original plan had been to generate a tape backup of the entire disk
starting at / using tar, install linux from the cd distribution,
and then untar the tape to recreate my configuration. This
attempt failed. Tar stopped at the tape device in the /dev directory,
and when I attempted to untar the tape ignoring the /dev
directory, the restore left me with an unbootable system (even
lilo stopped working). Clearly my backup strategy was not useful.
On other unix systems (like SGI, IBM etc.) there is usually a
backup and restore script. When restoring from such a script,
a minimal system is read into the machine either from a floppy
or a cd. The minimal system includes the restore script, which
is able to reconstruct the disk to its situation at the time of
the last backup. Windows also has such facilities. My question
is: does such a backup/restore facility exist for linux?
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From: Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for a good email client
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:48:21 -0400
david grant wrote, regarding XFMail:
>
> I aagree but it crashes from time to time and is not being maintained
> (is it?)
There's a mailing list that discusses that topic:
http://slappy.org/mailman/listinfo/xfmail
Jon
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Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:48:43 +0800
From: Raymond Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: What is the use of /boot/System.map
Hello,
I am using Red Hat 6.0 + Chinese Language Extension 0.8. After
upgraded the kernel from 2.2.5 to 2.2.10, I got some warning about
invalid kernel version on /boot/System.map.
What is the use of System.map? How can I fix those warning messages?
Yours,
Raymond Li
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++???
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:35:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > So just what is going on here?
> > Did C++ disappear from Suse 6.1 egcs package by accident?
> >
> > Where is __null, iostream.h, g++ ?
> > How can people compile KDE apps under Suse 6.1?
> >
> > I can't believe I'd be the first person to spot a blooper of this
> > magnitude, but I'm buggered if I know how to compile the source for
KDE
> > apps under my current system :-(
> >
> > Anyone else had probs compiling KDE or other C++ apps off Suse 6.1 ?
> > I chose all the dev packages at install and have egcs,libgpp etc.
> >
> > What initiated this was my desire to compile the latest version of
> > kppp. Please don't tell me to use wvdial as the issue is I want to
> > hack^H^H^H^Hdevelop C++ progs on my linux box...
> >
>
> ???????????????????????????
>
> What are you talking about?
>
> Use egcs for C++
>
> The buggy G++ is being replaced by something more ANSI compliant
> and less buggy.
>
Errr..I'm trying to compile with the gcc from the egcs package, that is
the whole point of this thread. The g++ was merely a vain symlink
attempt to gcc because 'g++' is what the KDE app expected and there is
no g++ on my system. This got me thru 'configure' but when I did the
make it barked about __null, not having a clue what it was (this is at
compiling stage). This made me think I might need 'g++' as a separate
program.
I would love to use egcs or any fuckin compiler if I could compile the
following major C++ app under Suse 6.1:
>>>>
#include <iostream.h>
#include <stdio.h> // or <stddef.h>
char *p=NULL;
>>>>>
without getting errors on gcc -c:
> Can't find iostream.h
> __null is not defined
So permit me to remain sceptical that the egcs in Suse 6.1 specifically
is kind of lacking something. I know it might boil down to a package I
haven't installed but I did a full dependency check in Yast and it
didn't say I was missing anything required for egcs.
Try compiling latest kppp (or any KDE app) on Suse 6.1 with egcs 1.1.2
(i think - whatever egcs came with Suse 6.1).
rpm -qfi `which gcc` -> egcs
Sorry if I bang on about 'Suse 6.1' too much it's just that I'm sure
that if this _IS_ a real problem then it's something to do with how
Suse was packaged up and not Linux in general. I've seen someone else
on a linux forum complain about c++ going missing from the std install
on suse 6.1 and the inability to compile KDE apps with this system. I
can't find anything in the Suse support archives however.
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From: "David Eno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.x.general
Subject: Starting GUI login Q
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 13:36:25 GMT
When I installed Mandrake 6.0 on my PC that has a GD5465 graphics card, I
had to initially start with the text login screen in order to edit
XF86Config to get X to work.
Now that X works, how can I get my PC to start up with a graphical login
screen?
Thanks for you help. Hope this is an easy one!
--
Dave E.
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From: Cyriac REMY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: please, urgent, EXECV, how it's running ?!?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:07:19 +0200
Hello,
Im trying to make a cgi program who can be used to change, using net
browser,
passwords. With this solution, I can change unix and smb password to
sync. them.
Well, I need to use smbpasswd programm like this :
> smbpasswd <username> <new_passwd>
So I think I could use exec functions to do that :
char *smbargs[] = { "smbpasswd", NULL, NULL, NULL };
smbargs[1] = login;
smbargs[2] = newpass;
if (fork() == 0)
execv ("/usr/bin/smbpasswd", smbargs);
or smthing like :
if (fork() == 0)
execl ("/usr/bin/smbpasswd", "smbpasswd", login, newpass,
(char*) 0);
But my smbpasswd dont change... ???
If I make this little programm :
lilsoft.c:
void main() {
execl ("/usr/bin/smbpasswd", "smbpasswd", "toto", "tata", 0);
}
and use ./lilsoft, it's running !!
My cgi script use root owner and group and perhaps my exec function dont
use the
same user and group ?!?
Can you help me ?
Thanks,
Cyriac REMY
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From: Jim McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Inserting links crashes netscape
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:45:44 -0300
When I try to insert a link in my postings or e-mail, netscape crashes
as soon as I click on "apply" or "OK". has anyone dealt with this
before.
Thankx in advance
Jim McIntyre
Webmaster Program
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia
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From: K Kal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:06:06 GMT
Hello guys,
I have a big problem on my hands!
I think I've crashed my Linux system. I was running some applications
in the background, and all of a sudden the system froze. I know that
doesn't make sense, but that's what happened!
I tried to login remotely, but didn't get anywhere. So I hit the reset
button on the computer. Now the system won't boot up!!
As it is doing its initial boot up it says the following:
Checking root filesystem
/dev/hda6 contains a file system with errors, check forced
[FAILED]
/dev/hda6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENSY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
(ie, without -a or -p options)
*** An error occurred during the file system check
*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
*** when you leave the shell.
Give root password for maintenance
(or type Control-D for normal startup):
Do you have any clue as to what the problem might be or even how to fix
it/get around it??? I'm afraid I might have to re-format!!
Thanks
K.Kal
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From: "Brian D. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: VNC for 2.2...?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:57:54 -0400
Does anybody have VNC working on the 2.2 kernel? I love the program,
but it only seems to be available for 2.0.
If you don't know, VNC lets you view a display of (almost) any platform
remotely. Check it out at http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/
brian
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From: Russell Suter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:53:33 -0600
K Kal wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> I have a big problem on my hands!
>
> I think I've crashed my Linux system. I was running some applications
> in the background, and all of a sudden the system froze. I know that
> doesn't make sense, but that's what happened!
>
> I tried to login remotely, but didn't get anywhere. So I hit the reset
> button on the computer. Now the system won't boot up!!
>
> As it is doing its initial boot up it says the following:
>
> Checking root filesystem
> /dev/hda6 contains a file system with errors, check forced
>
> [FAILED]
>
> /dev/hda6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENSY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
> (ie, without -a or -p options)
>
> *** An error occurred during the file system check
> *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
> *** when you leave the shell.
>
> Give root password for maintenance
> (or type Control-D for normal startup):
>
> Do you have any clue as to what the problem might be or even how to fix
> it/get around it??? I'm afraid I might have to re-format!!
>
> Thanks
> K.Kal
>
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> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
I had this problem once due to a cooling fan failure. The heat caused
some errors on the disk. To solve the problem, just do as the message
says: Give root password. You will be dumped into a shell where you
do as the message says: RUN fsck MANUALLY (ie, without -a or -p
options).
fsck /dev/hda6
The fsck program will ask you questions about how to correct all of the
problems it has. In my case, the problem files were netscape cache
files so it didn't matter what happened. Your mileage may vary...
Good luck!
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jay Fink)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:01:20 GMT
On Fri, 23 Jul 1999 09:59:25 -0700, "Groman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I've just subcribed to several linux newsgroups and read a couple of posts,
>and I decided
>to write this small comment on how "I" feel about linux, I know nobody
>cares, but anyway...
>
A lot of people care.
>Linux is a great operating system, it is powerful, fast, relatively easy to
>use(to other UNICES and to Windoze etc.) I am saying it is easier to use
>compared to Windoze, because to do the same things you can do in Linux
>in Windoze you'll have to turn mountains upside down.(install freebie
>software that will crash your comp).
>
AKA Flexibility and Stability
>Second reason, windoze costs about a $100, and doesn't come with anything
>useful. Linux on the other hand is free and comes with a trillions of
>zillions programs with it. and a lot more to download. no scary binaries!
>almost no viruses!(there are like 10 unix-based viruses on the record
>compared to 25000 of dos/windoze based, correct me if I am wrong).
>
This is one of the big points a lot of people are missing and I am
glad you picked up on it. I have been using systems of a wide variety
for nearly 13 years now (UNIX, SCO, Linux, DCL, CMS-2Y, DOS and
ercch!! Windoze) and one of my own gripes has always been not enough
stuff comes preloaded. Did you know (and it still may be this way) SCO
made you pay for networking protocol suites?
>what is wrong with linux and why I use windoze to do routine things, like
>news posting and e-mail, though mostly I use linux for learning programming
>and well other stuff... well here it is:
> I like the whole idea of operating system by people for people, BUT
>There isn't a some kind of comitee, company, person, aritficial
>intellegence, that does the following:
there are a lot of people trying to work in a variety of committees -
aka standards bodies and consortiums.
> Organise the basic system so it will be same style output, output
>readable by everybody,
not for linux or UNIX - that doesn't work. Another system perhaps.
> compile the tons of documentation available in an avarage sized User
>Guide with readable
> english and easy to use reference tables. HOW-TOs and FAQs are
>not-organized, or
> organized in a form I don't understand(each unique individual, on any
>given point in time
> has his own limit of understanding something, you'll just have to accept
>that).
To the best of my knowledge there has never been good documentation
for any system because of the individual factor. For instance, old
docs for electronic maintenance used to be so anal most people ignored
them while say win3.11 docs were too vague. It's a hit and miss kind
of thing. There are many good FAQ's for Linux - you just have to look
for them.
>
> Also, there should be a several modes of IO for the system itself, for
>example if
> IO Techie Level is 0, then during the boot it will display something
>like :
> Loading Linux Kernel.
> Loading Drivers.
> Starting services etc.
> but if IO Techie Level is like 10 it will output even more than it
>outputs now.
once again - not for linux or unix - maybe some new fangled apple or
something. remember linux was originally built for and by geeks.
>
> When I first installed Red Hat 5.2, it installed really well, I was
>really surprised that it was faster and
> easier than install of Windoze 95. Then I booted and logged in, I liked
>it until I had to figure out something
> how to do something, I spent 3 days configuring my ppp(that's because I
>started with that without knowing
> anything about linux) ppp how-to was understandable but it didn't cover
>my problems, IRC chat rooms just
> sent me to hell, and newsgroups, well that's why it was 3 days :-)
> If there would've been a help program that contained the basics of Linux
>set-up(X,ppp,servers, etc.)
heh - bad point to start from
> in a easy-to-use interface, Linux is great only when you know how to use
>it. so to make Linux great for everybody you have to make learning
>how to use it easier. I have UNIX Unleashed book for 1500 pages, I
>don't have nor time nor patience to read that, but when I looked through the
>contents, it contained most things
> you need to use any Unix system. If the basics of that under Linux would
>fit on 300 pages, it would be great.
>
Uuuuh - the fact that there is useful information on 1500 pages is
amazing. UNIX is best understood in parts. There are separate books
for all different aspects of UNIX, each one at LEAST 300 pages long.
It just isn't that easy.
--/J
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:25:03 GMT
Well, your "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY" message
is a direct result of your hitting the reset button. Linux didn't
get the chance to ensure that it's disk buffers were flushed (a controlled
shutdown does this), so some critical data wasn't written to the disk when
you rebooted. This in turn left the filesystem in an inconsistant state,
where some information on it indicates that data exists, but other info
indicates that data doesn't exist. Follow the instructions given on the screen;
login in single user mode, run fsck on the drive, and repair the inconsistancies.
As to your original problem (linux freezing), we'll need more information in order
to determine the cause and cure.
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:06:06 GMT, K Kal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello guys,
>
>I have a big problem on my hands!
>
>I think I've crashed my Linux system. I was running some applications
>in the background, and all of a sudden the system froze. I know that
>doesn't make sense, but that's what happened!
>
>I tried to login remotely, but didn't get anywhere. So I hit the reset
>button on the computer. Now the system won't boot up!!
>
>As it is doing its initial boot up it says the following:
>
>Checking root filesystem
>/dev/hda6 contains a file system with errors, check forced
>
> [FAILED]
>
>/dev/hda6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENSY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
> (ie, without -a or -p options)
>
>*** An error occurred during the file system check
>*** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
>*** when you leave the shell.
>
>Give root password for maintenance
>(or type Control-D for normal startup):
>
>
>Do you have any clue as to what the problem might be or even how to fix
>it/get around it??? I'm afraid I might have to re-format!!
>
>Thanks
>K.Kal
>
>
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
Lew Pitcher
System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: POP Mail?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:38:43 GMT
well compile a popserver like qpopper or something and this will work
with sendmail. this work because that is what I am using
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Lindoze 2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> anyone know how to tell if POP mail is running ?
>
> then how can I setup some pop client like netscape to read it.
> I have only IP addys, no Public Domain names (no company.com)
> How do you send someone email useing IP addresses?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work.
>
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VNC for 2.2...?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 15:37:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:57:54 -0400, "Brian D. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Does anybody have VNC working on the 2.2 kernel? I love the program,
>but it only seems to be available for 2.0.
>
>If you don't know, VNC lets you view a display of (almost) any platform
>remotely. Check it out at http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/
I have VNC version 3.3.2 R11 running with my SuSE Linux 6.0, kernel 2.2.10, KDE
1.1.1, and it works perfectly.
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