Linux-Misc Digest #200, Volume #21 Wed, 28 Jul 99 22:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Scripting Question ("Jeff Grossman")
Re: Kernel Panic: No init found ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What I think of linux. (Robert V. Grizzard)
Professional Sound / Digital Audio Support for Linux?
Re: Reading News Offline (Christopher Browne)
Re: Lilo & EZ-Drive (Michel Catudal)
Re: GNOME & E ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: CIA assassinations (Michel Catudal)
Re: Linux has finally crashed (electra41)
Re: Using alsa-sound drivers with the Trident 4d Wave sound cards (Michael Keryan)
downloading linux ("John O'Day")
Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++??? (Michel Catudal)
Re: math.h problem ("Dann Corbit")
Re: latest netscape (Michel Catudal)
Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux? (Jeremy Crabtree)
Re: external modem trouble (Michel Catudal)
Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (Todd Knarr)
Re: Marx vs. Nozick ("Robert Voppmann")
Inheritence vs. Evolution? [Re: Marx vs. Nozick] ("Robert Voppmann")
Re: RH6 timezone ("Charles Sullivan")
bind function key to command (John Thompson)
Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries (Todd Knarr)
Re: downloading linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: msn.computingcentral.os.linux
Subject: Scripting Question
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:48:55 -0700
Hello,
I have a scripting question. Not sure if this would be done in Perl or
something else. But here is what I need to do:
1. I need to keep the last 5 versions of a file. I was thinking of just
renaming the files, i.e. prev1, prev2, prev3, prev4, etc.
2. So, I need to delete the last one, and rename all of the ones down one
number.
3. I need to run a program that will ftp download a file. And that will
become the first file.
Thank you,
Jeff
--
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: No init found
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 22:15:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mark Mykkanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am trying to setup a MCA 486 with RedHat 6.0 using a ppa Zip drive. I
: made the kernel and installed what I thought I would need of rpms to the
: zip disk. The system boots on a floppy and stops on the message:
: Kernel Panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.
The kernel does not find the root device!!
: I have the /etc/fstab and /etc/inittab properly configured (I think).
It does not get to the point where it is able to read these files.
: Is
: there anything special that I have to do when installing it to a zip
: drive? I've read the HOWTOs on the Zip drive and now I am stuck.
Don't know, I've never used one.
: How do
: I tell the kernel where my init is?
You have to configure LILO to know where the root partition is.
Good Luck,
Friedhelm
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The answer is: "NO!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert V. Grizzard)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: What I think of linux.
Date: 28 Jul 1999 23:56:36 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
[snip]
>As the second poster said, Linux was made by geeks for
>geeks, and unfortunately it will probably always remain
>so. I have to say that there is NO WAY Linux will ever
>become mainstream... simply because of the lack of computer
>savvy demonstrated by over 90% of PC users.
My local Barnes and Noble has copies of that immortal classic,
_Linux_For_Dummies_. *Someone* believes Linux is Ready For Prime Time.
(posted from col.misc
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,redhat.hardware.arch.intel
Subject: Professional Sound / Digital Audio Support for Linux?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 00:31:18 GMT
I've been looking around for a professional sound card with good linux
support. Can anyone recommend one?
What I'm looking for is something with a full DSP, excellent midi syth,
and full digital i/o. I also would like at least >18 bit ADC/DAC, and
something which uses a PCI bus.
I definitely do not want a Sound Blaster Live! card, this thing sucks for
my purposes.
I've been looking at the Hoontech ST128 DDMA Ruby. Anyone with this card
like it?
Thanks everyone!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Reading News Offline
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:21:52 GMT
On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:03:22 GMT, Roberto Alsina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tapio Riikonen) wrote:
>> A few days ago I installed slrn and slrn-pull on my solitary home
>> machine without troubles. I'm impressed with the systems functionality
>> and ease of use. Moreover, slrn has unobtrusive, pleasant console
>> colours.
>>
>> Now I'd like to have the option of reading my news spool with Netscape
>> or KRN. After some unsuccessful attempts I give up and ask for your
>> help.
>>
>> How do I access this local news spool (/var/spool/slrnpull/news) and
>> subscribe to news groups in Netscape and/or KRN?
>
>KRN has no support whatsoever for any kind of local news spool.
>In fact, I wouldn't expect any newsreader other than slrn to be able
>to read the spool created by slrnpull.
GNUS and MH are both able to read slrnpull news spools; that doesn't
help much with Netscape/KRN.
Those that like slrn, GNUS, MH, ... may reasonably use slrnpull to
manage the news spool; if you need to use a forcibly NNTP-based
newsreader, you'll have to get a real NNTP server of some sort.
Leafnode may be the simplest; <http://www.sylph.u-net.com/snews.html>
S-news is another option. INN is obviously another choice; I think
I'll wait until someone creates a Linuxconf configuration module for
it...
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo & EZ-Drive
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:18:17 -0500
Dave Brown wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Cameron L. Spitzer wrote:
> >
> >It took me some experimentation. First, install EZ-Drive on the bare drive
> >per its instructions.
> >Then use a Linux rescue diskette to run cfdisk or fdisk and partition the
> >drive. Then install the Microsoft product, if any.
> >Then install Linux, but do not let the installation install LILO.
> >Get it all working, with Linux booting from the boot floppy the installation
> >makes, or a "raw" bootimage (bzImage) floppy with the kernel you compiled
> >after installing.
>
> I have EZ-Drive installed on one system, along with lilo. That, in itself,
> is not particularly a problem.
>
> EZ-Drive must load before anything else, as it's remapped the drive
> addresses, and without it, the OS's won't be able to make sense out of
> the file systems.
>
> My problem occurs when I try to boot from a boot diskette. EZ-Drive needs
> to load, and then allows the boot sequence to be interrupted choose an
> A-drive boot or a C-drive boot. Presumably I could select A-drive and
> the boot diskette would properly be read and then the root filesystem
> get mounted... herein lies the problem. I can't reliably boot from
> floppy and depend on the root filesystem to be mounted. Any suggestions?
>
> --
> Dave Brown Austin, TX
Change the motherboard. I've used Ontrack manager for a long
time without any problem. I used the OS/2 boot manager to boot.
I still prefer for the bios to handle the disk correctly. Most
new motherboard support large hard disks and they're cheap.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNOME & E
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 01:05:21 GMT
> Ok, I think I figured it out. Tell me if this works for you.
>
> Right click on a minimized window and choose show/hide. Then click on
> the minimized icon. Now you can minimize it and bring it up with one
> click.
>
Ummmm, yes, that works, but do I really have to use 3 mouse clicks to do
it? In Windows (sorry if you hate it) one click on the task bar will
raise a window to the front. It seems like such a simple thing.
Clicking on something in the GNOME task list gives it keyboard focus (I
can tell by the way the window changes color) but it doesn't raise it.
Isn't there an easy way?
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:24:13 -0500
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the 27 Jul 1999 20:07:14 -0500...
> ..and Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > "A.T.Z." wrote:
> > >
> > > Within a year of 40/50 the US will be under EU supervision (like it was
> > > before), because EU market and the Euro is much bigger and stronger then
> > > the US market and the US $.
> >
> > A bit dreamer are you?
> > Nothing better than real money, the US dollar.
>
> Remind me that I wave a wad of Euro cash in front of you when I next
> come to the U.S.
>
I have little confidence in the Euro considering the recent problem
with it. I rather trust the French Francs and the German Marks
for now when I get European currencies.
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From: electra41 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:59:09 +1000
mlw wrote:
> K Kal wrote:
> >
> > Hello guys,
> >
> > I have a big problem on my hands!
> >
> > I think I've crashed my Linux system. I was running some applications
> > in the background, and all of a sudden the system froze. I know that
> > doesn't make sense, but that's what happened!
> >
> The only time I ever see this is a due to a flakey X server and using
> Netscape. It has happened to me four times in three years.
>
I had the same experience to. It crashed when I use netscape, and one of the
time when using
gmc.
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From: Michael Keryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using alsa-sound drivers with the Trident 4d Wave sound cards
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 00:31:24 GMT
Markus Heinz wrote:
> I use a sound card with Trident 4D Wave DX with Suse Linux 6.1. I
> installed version 0.3.2 of the alsa-drivers. I have faced the problem
> described, too. The manpage for the amixer seems to be outdated. You can
> get help from amixer itself. Try something like amixer -help. I can't
> remember the exact command. But I use the following commands to unmute
> the mixer and increase the volume:
>
> amixer eset 'Master Volume',0,Volume1 80
> amixer eset 'PCM Volume',0,Volume1 100
> amixer eset 'CD Volume',0,Volume1 100
> amixer eset 'Master Switch',0,Switch2 on
> amixer eset 'PCM Switch',0,Switch2 on
> amixer eset 'CD Switch',0,Switch2 on
>
> Markus Heinz
I was confused by the inconsistency of amixer and its docs, but I used
amixer2 to set the sound. However even after saving the current settings as
root by issuing 'alsactl store', after a reboot the volume settings are
remembered, but the switches are all off. Have you been successful in
saving the defaults to be unmuted?
Mike Keryan
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From: "John O'Day" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: downloading linux
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:35:08 -0700
I am very new to linux and I went to the red hat ftp site. I don't which
files to download at the site. Can someone point me in the right direction.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did SUSE 6.1 egcs lose C++???
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:35:35 -0500
Tim Harrell wrote:
>
> Michael Hasenstein wrote:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Errr..I'm trying to compile with the gcc from the egcs package, that is
> > > the whole point of this thread. The g++ was merely a vain symlink
> > > attempt to gcc because 'g++' is what the KDE app expected and there is
> >
> > So why don�t you just install g++ (package �gpp�).
>
> I have now installed 'gpp' and I can now compile said KDE app. I wasn't
> aware that this extra package was needed. I'm a newbie and was told by a
> linux dude that gcc aka egcs was used to compile c++ progs (and I'd
> merrily used gcc to compile c++ progs in the past on other Unix
> systems). Also people have said that one shouldn't be using 'g++' so I'm
> kinda confused, what exactly _should_ I be using with a 2.2.x system to
> compile my c++ progs?
> >
>
> > Sorry if I bang on about 'Suse 6.1' too much it's just that I'm sure
> > > that if this _IS_ a real problem then it's something to do with how
> > > Suse was packaged up and not Linux in general. I've seen someone else
> >
> > Don�t make your problems a �SuSE problem�. They can�t hold your hand all
> > the time.
>
> They haven't held my hand at all, though not for want of hoping. I never
> managed to get thru once on the phone support and emails sent would take
> a week or more to get a response.
>
> > > on a linux forum complain about c++ going missing from the std install
> > > on suse 6.1 and the inability to compile KDE apps with this system. I
> > > can't find anything in the Suse support archives however.
> >
> > Because your the first one who�s unable to find a package which even has
> > �GNU C++ compiler� in it�s description, visible in YaST and in the rpm?!
>
> So you're saying that i DO need g++ for compiling any c++ apps and this
> is something distinct from the gcc in egcs package? (it's in a separate
> pkg after all).
> What was curious is that i had libg++ stuff (package libgpp) already
> installed and Yast didn't saying anything about needing gpp package when
> I selected the dev stuff.
>
> As for being the first one as you so nicely put it, here's a posting on
> the Linux Today forum from Monday 26th june
> <http://linuxtoday.com/stories/8053_flat.html>
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> SuSE 6.1 had quite a few problems, which was surprising since earlier
> releases had been very good.
>
> It looks like it didn't go through much testing, because a number of
> things were broken that people would find right away with normal
> use.
>
> Examples: kppp problems, absence of the C++ part of ecgs (good luck
> compiling any KDE stuff!), buggy libraries used by programs which say
> "Oh-oh, this
> library is buggy" (not too hard to catch) (like libpng), packages broken
> up
> into many parts so you frequently find something is missing and have to
> search
> for it and install it (especially all the *dev development versions).
>
> Basically, it was apparent that nobody tried using SuSE 6.1 to compile
> c++
> stuff for KDE, used a modem (everyone uses a T-1 I guess), used any
> imlib/gtk
> apps, used Netscape under KDE, or used GNOME.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> --
>
> Tim Harrell
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
G++ is not ANSI compliant but that is not the reason that I say
it's buggy and personnally I would never install it on my system.
I ported a large library of my Visual Age for C++ to Linux because
my program needed the string classes that I used under OS/2.
What I found out was that g++ not only create crappy programs
but that if I exceeded a certain number of virtual functions it
would generate fixed pointer in lala land from that point on. Anyone
who has had frequent illogical core dump with C++ programs might
understand a bit now.
I haven't had time to test egcs yet and if it screws up on mine
as you say it does on yours I'm not about to use this g++ shit to
get things to work. There's got to be a way to get this to compile
without reverting to this garbage. I'll buy Comeau C++ if need be.
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From: "Dann Corbit" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Re: math.h problem
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:50:05 -0700
Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pop) writes:
>
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ben Pfaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Pop) writes:
> >
> > The problem can be fixed without breaking the -lm kludge or *any*
> > Makefile rules relying on it: put all the math stuff in *both* libc
and
> > libm.
> >
> >Wouldn't it be less wasteful to put math in libc and provide an empty
> >libm?
>
> This will break some esoteric linking procedures which need math
functions
> but do not include libc, either explicitly or implicitly.
>
> Doesn't the existence of such linking procedures imply that there is
> good separation of libm from libc, and that in fact they should not be
> merged?
Hmm...
Then why are these separations not needed for OpenVMS?
Why are they not needed for Windows NT?
Why are they not needed for MVS?
Why is such a separation completely unnecessary for all systems besides UNIX
flavors?
Must be some fatal flaw in the design of UNIX? Or perhaps it is just a
stupid anachronism.
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: latest netscape
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:41:11 -0500
Anita Lewis wrote:
>
> I see what you mean, Michel. I installed the binaries first, and it was
> quite easy. Use the glibc version and netscape's instructions using their
> install program. Only thing was that I had a bus error after installing,
> just like I had with 4.07. I had to use a fix that gave me a missing
> library and gave me a script to use to set things up for netscape. You may
> not have that problem. Hopefully not.
>
> Anita
>
That bus error is because you must have forgotten the large fonts
during install. For some unknown reasons the RedHat install doesn't
have it listed as a default. Netscape dies without it.
I don't remember the details but you should see if you make as search
on dejanews.
Even after that you should still have some crash on certain sites
but there ain't much we can do about those until netscape fixes
the bugs.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Crabtree)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Did you switch from Windows to Linux?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 01:43:20 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mario Miyojim allegedly wrote:
>#1: Check whether the ISP MicroModem is a winmodem; if it is, it works only
> with Windows, no other OS.
No, he said /H/ S P Micromodem, HSP means Host Signal Processing, which means
WinModem
[SNIP]
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the difficulties, and now beg to present to my fellow fools the parts
that are not hard" --Silvanus P. Thompson, from "Calculus Made Easy."
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: external modem trouble
Date: 28 Jul 1999 20:48:03 -0500
gus wrote:
>
> Neil Zanella wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have an old USR Sportster Flash external serial modem.
> > The computer it connects to has one male serial port and one male parallel
> > port. The cable I have connects the modem's parallel port to the
> > computer's serial port. This makes it impossible to utilize my serial
> > mouse and modem simultaneously. Is it possible to convert the parallel
> > port on the computer to a serial port with an adapter so that I may
> > utilize the mouse and modem simultaneously?
> >
>
> The modem does not have a parallel port ... ;-) YOu get two types of
> serial port, the one has a larger connector then the other. The normal
> external USR Sportster Flash has a large (25pin) Serial port on the
> modem and a smaller 9pin connector to connect to the computer. This is
> normal.
>
> It is also unhappily common for computers (especially the Dell /
> Gateway) computers to have only one serial port.
>
This is incorrect. Gateway shit computers have two internal serial
port but save a few cents by not bringing the cable to the outside.
The one I have at my office has a screwy connector. If this is the
case here do as I do, rewire the cable to the pins go at the
right places. Once the serial port is enabled in the bios you
have two serial ports.
Some other computers just have a larger connector for the second
serial port. The serial port is a male connector while the printer
port is a female connector, can't be mistaken.
Radio Shack and CompUSA have adapters for the 9 pins connectors.
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: 29 Jul 1999 01:57:34 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc subvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hum...i don't know a lot about anything, but I was just dynamically linking
> two shared objects in Linux and
> they both have several functions with the same name, and it works just
> fine...so whats the problem???
What happens is that only one gets used in that case. The linker resolves
the symbol into the first shared library, and all subsequent calls use
that. If the interface spec for the functions is identical between all
the libraries in use, there will be no problem.
What breaks things is when you have identical symbols in shared libraries
with different sonames, and the interface spec or internals differ so
much that the two implementations cannot deal with each other. At that
point you either get link or load problems or data corruption at runtime.
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From: "Robert Voppmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:24:12 +0100
Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
>> Free market => large-scale competition => large-scale conflict ==
war
>Nonsense
You can, if you want, substitute the word *war* with words like *FUD*
etc. -- I think, I don't have to say more... ;-)
That's why I think that this discussion is not entirely out of place
in these newsgroups
>> >No. Capitalism is based on competition, but competition need not
>> >entrail destruction. How you come to associate capitalism with
>> >dictatorship is beyond me...
>>
>> The distinguishing characteristic of competition is destruction.
>
>No.
>
>[rave rave]
>
What is FUD an example of then ???
r.
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From: "Robert Voppmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Inheritence vs. Evolution? [Re: Marx vs. Nozick]
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 1999 08:24:25 +0100
The discussions on whethe humans are animals or not reminds me of the
general question of inheritance:
Stefaan A Eeckels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7n31fu$19s$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>Face it. We're a product of life on this planet, not something
>freaky that's unrelated to life around us. Face it, the
>bacteria in your gut think your pretty much part of nature :-)
The antithesis was -- "we are not animals", or earlier in the day:
"yes, we are something special!"...
Since this seems to be a conflict between different beliefs concerning
evolution, I would like to ponder another step of evolution: the
'appearance' of life itself ( or even organic chemistry on the whole).
The evolution of living organisms looks absolutely ridiculous from the
point of view of an anorganic chemical -- it consists of loads of
things that are absolutely (?) instable, one could say, that this is
'degradation' in terms of the chemical stability of an anorganic
environment. Yet, in spite of their instability, as far as chemistry
goes, have life forms managed to survived, somehow.
Based on that, let's ask ourselves -- is a living organism something
else than a heap of chemical substances?
I think, the same should hold for the development of human society:
people say all sorts of things about the genes etc. and what that
means from a biological (ecological) point of view. Yet there seems to
be a new sort of stability in human society that is not found easily
in natural ecosystems. And I think this has something to do with a
more or less consiencous approach to life. So the system that
guarantees stability and reproduction of the human species differs
fundamentally in the principals that it is based on from the system
the was taking care of other life forms (nature).
And yet, this doesn't free us of being a bunch of chemical elements or
biological organisms.
---
and I don't know what the atoms in the DNA of my left brain cell
think, but I'm dead certain that I think something else.
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From: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6 timezone
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:45:28 -0400
export TZ=GMT0
jerrad pierce wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>How do you change a system's timezone in RH6 (EST->GMT)? I've heard from
previous versions to use /usr/lib/timeinfo or something, but I have no such
directory on my system.
>
>Also, is there a manner which will not require a reboot?
>
>PS> Please (b)cc me with any replies, thanks!
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bind function key to command
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:01:02 -0600
Is there a way to bind a function key to a command? Eg,
could I bind asy "F12" to "exit" and close my xterms with a
simple press of F12?
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: windows dll vs. linux libraries
Date: 29 Jul 1999 02:03:15 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You account of the weakness in Linux shared libraries are exacty why
> they are bad for binary distribution of software.
Why would the ability to distribute a piece of software that can have
all it's neccesary components installed without risking overwriting
other versions of those components be a weakness?
> I completely disagree with you. Windows .DLL are only bad because they
> have not been versioned in the past. Today .DLL files like MSVC40 and
> MSVC42 can easily co-exist. In fact, a .DLL file that uses a MSVC40
> routine fubar() can be used with a MSVC50 application that also uses a
> fubar() routine, each function will use the correct fubar() routine.
OK, what happens when I create a DirectSound object using DirectX 2.0
routines and pass it to a routine in a DLL that uses DirectX 6.1 routines?
--
It may be great to soar with the eagles, but weasels don't get sucked into
jets.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: downloading linux
Date: 29 Jul 1999 01:50:23 GMT
John O'Day wrote:
>
> I am very new to linux and I went to the red hat ftp site. I don't which
> files to download at the site. Can someone point me in the right direction.
I suggest you buy a real distribution first time around. You will get
a book if you buy RedHat. I have used that book alot.
If you are willing to go it on your own you can get many distributions
very inexpensively from:
http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart
Have fun. I sure have...
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