Linux-Misc Digest #200, Volume #24 Thu, 20 Apr 00 05:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: here's a good one for you, man's broke (Dan Glover)
Re: EIDE CD-RW kernel panic can't mount root (Jan Schaumann)
Re: File Size Limitations (Dances With Crows)
Re: Creating a umsdos partition ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
newbie question ("MvW")
Re: Question on StarOffice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: System.map ? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Question on StarOffice (Kevin Vandersloot)
Re: How to tell if kernel is running multiple cpus? (Roger Blake)
Re: Error Messages (Robie Basak)
Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work? (James Waldby)
Server doesn't know its own host name (Wil Rhys)
Netscape font size (Hawk82)
Ultra66 and Mandrake (Hawk82)
Re: ISDN "NO DIALTONE" (Tim Wyles)
Maximum Linux Security CD will not install (Smitty)
Re: Error Messages (Tim Hockin)
netscape fonts..... (Russell Tanner)
Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work? (Hal Burgiss)
Re: netscape fonts..... (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Netscape font size (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work? (Eli the Bearded)
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From: Dan Glover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: freenetname.linux,uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: here's a good one for you, man's broke
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:32:57 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Charles Blackburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>here's a good one for you all, I've just tried to pull up a man page for
>something and this is what I got: -
>charlesb@local-gateway:~ > man new
>man: can't chdir to /u/charlesb: Permission denied
>No manual entry for new
echo $MANPATH
Or look in /usr/lib/man.config or something similar.
Should the user invoking `man` have access to /u/charlesb?
Dan
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Dan Glover ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Today's Excuse:
had to use hammer to free stuck disk drive heads.
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,com.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: EIDE CD-RW kernel panic can't mount root
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:37:40 -0400
John Gluck wrote:
>
> Jan Schaumann wrote:
> >
> [snip]
>
> > Thanks for the hint.
> > So I attached it as a slave to the HD, and have the normal cdrom
> > attached to the toher IDE as master. The cdrom is hooked up to the
> > soundcard. Now it boots fine (I recompiled a couple of times and now it
> > does find the module dependencies), but still no sound (though it does
> > load the sound- and midid-modules).
> >
> > what gives?
> >
> > -Jan
> >
> > --
> > Jan Schaumann
> > http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net
> >
> > Windows does support real multitasking! It can boot and crash
> > simultaneously!
>
> The sound come through a little cable (usually about 4 pins ) and
> connected directly to your sound card via a similar connector. Most
> sound cards have only 1 cdrom input for sound so you'll have to choose
> which of the 2 you want.
Well, actually that was not the problem. The problem was, that *all* my
sound didn't work. but anyway, I recompiled a few more times, so that I
ended up with a working albeit bloated kernel, working sound etc.
the problem I had was, I suspect, an IRQ-conflict. Once I ran sndconfig
after booting with the nwe kernel, my problems were solved.
Too bad only that my kernel is so big.
I used to always have a big kernel and was not too experienced in
re-compiling it, so I left it the way it was. Now with the scsi-thing, I
figured I might as well try to only compile all the necessary things
into the kernel and make it smaller. Didn't work out... :-(
I'll try again when I have more time...
Thanks for all help,
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net
Every program has (at least) two purposes:
the one for which it was written and another for which it wasn't.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: File Size Limitations
Date: 18 Apr 2000 17:42:28 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:58:57 -0600, Larry Irons
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>Does Anyone know if there are any file size limitations in the 2.2.x
>kernel? I am loading a variable block file from a scsi tape drive. It
>loads approximately 2.0 GB and then stops but the file on the tape is
On a 32-bit architecture, Linux presently has a file size limit of 2G.
Alpha and Sparc-64 do not have this problem; when the successor to ext2
comes out, 32-bit machines will not have this problem either.
Is this just one fscking monolithic huge chunk of data, or can you split
it up into 2G chunks and work with it that way?
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Creating a umsdos partition
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Apr 2000 17:44:28 -0500
On 2000-04-17 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
>Winlinux installs without needing a seperate partition. try www.
>winlinux.com it's about a 200 meg download
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
>>message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I know how to do this
>>through linux. But is there a DOS version of umssync or some
>>similar tool??? (I have a friend that wants to try out linux
>>without having to repartition her hard drive first)
>> if not, then how do i generate a --linux-- file???
If you have enough space in a DOS partition on your Linux box, use umssync
and copy files from your Linux partition to the DOS partition, then zip
them.
Net-Tamer V 1.08X - Test Drive
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Reply-To: "MvW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "MvW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie question
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:09:03 +0200
Just a simple question for you, but I have no idee to return to text-mode in
RH 6.2. While booting I just go to the graphical login screen, how can I
(incidentally) go to text mode?
Thanks,
Micha van Wijngaarden
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Question on StarOffice
Date: 18 Apr 2000 21:47:58 GMT
John Roberts wrote:
>
> When (and if ) I install StarOffice, will it displace KDE as my default
> X-server GUI? Or will it sit on the desktop as an icon?
> TIA
I use AfterStep. StarOffice just comes up in front of it. I can
resize it smaller, and see AfterStep beneath it. It should not
replace your X-server GUI...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: System.map ?
Date: 18 Apr 2000 17:50:09 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 20:04:16 GMT, Tom
<<8dif3m$cb3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>> Do I have to replace the System.map manually before I change from one
>> kernel to the other?
>
>I also am confused about this (and thanks to all who have already
>posted). Perhaps someone could explain what the System.map file *is* ?
>I can't find any mention of it (much less an explanation) in the howto
Replacing the system.map shouldn't be necessary. The System.map is merely
a list of all the symbol names in the kernel, so when the kernel crashes,
the OOPS routine can spit out something a bit more informative than a bare
hex dump, like
Call Trace: __try_to_free_pages __ext2_invalidate_buffer_cache
__wibble_wibble_flob __wretched_panic
instead of "0x0420 0xBEEF 0xDEAD 0xC001 0xA00B 0xBARF..."
There should be no need to use an initial ram disk if you compile the
drivers for the SCSI controller and SCSI disk support into the kernel
directly, rather than as modules. initrd is used mainly for installation
purposes, not on production systems, or so I've been told....
--
Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| Programmers are playwrights
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| Computers are lousy actors
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Lusers are vicious drama critics
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| BOFHen burn down theatres.
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From: Kevin Vandersloot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question on StarOffice
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:49:58 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
John Roberts wrote:
> When (and if ) I install StarOffice, will it displace KDE as my default
> X-server GUI? Or will it sit on the desktop as an icon?
> TIA
>
>
It will not take over KDE. You can however run it in a full screen mode
that will hide your KDE panel and desktop. But that's only an optiion. You
can run it like any other application inside of KDE.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Blake)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How to tell if kernel is running multiple cpus?
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:03:31 GMT
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:30:34 GMT, Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rebuilding the kernel doesn't take longer than 30 minutes on a slow
>computer. ...
It takes all day (or overnight) on my 486DX2/66 system.
--
Roger Blake
(remove second "g" and second "m" from address for email)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robie Basak)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Error Messages
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 18 Apr 2000 22:12:58 GMT
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:27:54 -0700, Jeff Grossman said:
>How do I fix the following error message that keeps showing up in my
>messages log file?
>
>Apr 12 04:02:01 apple modprobe: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more recent
>than /lib
>/modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep
I don't know why this happens (I'm sure this is the case on my system,
but it doesn't complain). Just do:
touch /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep
to make modules.dep more recent.
>Apr 12 04:02:01 apple modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-10
Edit /etc/conf.modules and add the line:
alias net-pf-10 off
to it. You should do this before the above step, or you'll make
conf.modules more recent again.
Robie.
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From: James Waldby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work?
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:17:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Penpal International <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Isn't there a browser for linux which DOES work? I work with
> netscape...
> > Just like windows, keeps crashing all the time!
> >...
> A few things that may help with netscape...
>
> 1. UPGRADE
> I don't know about other distros, but redhat 6.1 still ships something
> like netscape 4.5. You can get RPMs for at least netscape 4.7, and can
> get tarballs of netscape 4.72 with 128 bit encryption from the netscape
> site. This should help your stability a lot.
>
> 2. Turn off JAVA and JAVA script ...{snip}
> 3. Planned restarts
> ...{snip}
>
> Still not rock solid, but netscape now stays up for at least several
> days at a time for me now. Better then netscape or ie under windows by
> far!
> Eric
I've been using 4.71 or 4.72 for some time, with relatively few
netscape-hangs. I agree with the upgrade idea, but have no
enthusiasm for either of suggestions 2 and 3.
Another person seemed to be saying that netscape would hang by
itself with only a few windows open, and run ok with about 10
open. My own experience is that most of my netscape hangs
have occurred when I had lots of netscape windows open, say
25 or 30 sets of search results, to maximize loss in accord
with various laws of nature.
Anyhow, also see newsgroup netscape.communicator.unix
which you can read on news server secnews.netscape.com
if you don't have it locally.
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From: Wil Rhys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux
Subject: Server doesn't know its own host name
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:11:08 GMT
I'm relatively new to Linux, so this may be an extremely stupid
question. However, I am trying to set-up a system as a server. The
network connection works well enough -- I can ping, telnet and ftp --
but I can't seem to get any other networking working. In fact, when I
startx, I get an "unkown host" message. Now, I assigned the system a
name (cymru.localhost.net) in Linuxconf (I'm using Red Hat 6.2), but
that doesn't seem to do any good. Is there a file I can edit that will
allow the server to know its name, and thus get on with the business of
networking?
Wil
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Hawk82 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape font size
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:30:08 GMT
Hey all!
I have Mandrake 7.02 and Netscape Communicator 4.7.
I need to know how to increase the font size in Netscape so it is more
readable.
I have my resolution at 1024 x 768 w/ 32 bit color.
When I put the resolution down to 800 x 600, it does not help too much.
The font increase setting in Netscape is greyed out (can't use) under the
View command.
Please help.
Hawk82
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From: Hawk82 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Ultra66 and Mandrake
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:30:07 GMT
Hey all!
I have Mandrake 7.02 w/ kernel version 2.2.14-15mdk (I think?).
I have a UDMA 66 drive connected to a Promise UDMA 66 controller.
Primary Master setup for the UDMA 66 drive.
I have Linux installed on an older UDMA 33 drive.
I need Linux to see the Promise card, but I don't really want to compile a
new version of the kernel to work with the Promise card.
I have Windows installed on the UDMA 66 drive and I need my info on the
drive.
Is there any way to have Linux see the drive to boot from in LILO?
Need help REALLY BAD!!!
Hawk82
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http://www.help.com/
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From: Tim Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ISDN "NO DIALTONE"
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 23:30:41 +0000
Charles Blackburn wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:43:02 -0000, Martin wrote:
> >I have configured my ISDN BT Speedway (Hi Sax Fritz!) card and all my
> >network settings, but on dialling get the message "NO DIALTONE".
> >Does anybody know how to sort this out?
>
> Silly question, is it plugged in?? :) seriously though, can you get
> dialtone from any other ISDN equipment?
>
Perhaps not so silly - I had same NO DIALTONE message earlier today.
Had to switch off and switch on the (different hardware) T/A and all was well.
What could cause this? It has happened under NT too.
>
> --
Charles Blackburn -=- Remove NOSPAM to email a reply
Kind Regards
Tim Wyles
___________________________________________________
"If you're gonna shoot, shoot - don't talk!", Tuco.
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From: Smitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Maximum Linux Security CD will not install
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:33:34 -0400
Attempted to install companion CD to the book Maximum Linux Security and
at the second install window no matter if all or one application is
chosen I received the message "You failed to choose any apploications"
Has anyone had any experience with this CD? The setup script states
that "we were in a hurry". Does this CD contain bad setup code? Please
help.
Smitty
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From: Tim Hockin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Error Messages
Date: 18 Apr 2000 22:36:49 GMT
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: How do I fix the following error message that keeps showing up in my
: messages log file?
: Apr 12 04:02:01 apple modprobe: Note: /etc/conf.modules is more recent
: than /lib
: /modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep
depmod -a
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Tim Hockin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
This program has been brought to you by the language C and the number F.
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From: Russell Tanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: netscape fonts.....
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:42:09 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi- I have installed Mandrake 7, got the modem, sound and all working
ok. The dialup works, got online, fired up netscape 4.7 and, hehe, just
about need a magnifiying glass to read some of the fonts. I tried
setting the fonts in netscape but it had no affect. I am running in
800x600 resolution.
Also have another problem, when trying to install an Icq clone, when I
run the ./install I get this message that the "gcc is no good". I
understand that is the C compiler, I checked and it is install. Wrong
version? Any iders out there?
thanks
Russ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:47:54 GMT
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 17:02:33 GMT, Andreas Kahari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Penpal International <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Lynx works great!
>
> http://lynx.browser.org/
Don't forget w3m! (Does tables and frames.)
>Oh, you want graphics and news reader capabilities and advertisements?
>Well, then Opera shouldn't be too bad I think.
>
> http://www.opera.com/
>Ps: Netscape has never crashed for me in Linux.
Well, occasionally here. Maybe once a month. But I don't use
Communicator, just Navigotor.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: netscape fonts.....
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:53:30 GMT
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 14:42:09 -0800, Russell Tanner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi- I have installed Mandrake 7, got the modem, sound and all working
>ok. The dialup works, got online, fired up netscape 4.7 and, hehe, just
>about need a magnifiying glass to read some of the fonts. I tried
>setting the fonts in netscape but it had no affect. I am running in
>800x600 resolution.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU.html (Font De-uglification)
http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf
http://feenix.eyep.net/xstuff/xfs.html
>Also have another problem, when trying to install an Icq clone, when I
>run the ./install I get this message that the "gcc is no good". I
>understand that is the C compiler, I checked and it is install. Wrong
>version? Any iders out there?
Is it even installed:
[hal@feenix hal]$ which gcc
/usr/bin/gcc
[hal@feenix hal]$ rpm -qf /usr/bin/gcc
egcs-1.1.2-30
(On Redhat6.2)
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Netscape font size
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:55:35 GMT
On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 22:30:08 GMT, Hawk82 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hey all!
>I have Mandrake 7.02 and Netscape Communicator 4.7.
>
>I need to know how to increase the font size in Netscape so it is more
>readable.
You can set the default font and size in Preferences. This will work for
some web pages only.
>I have my resolution at 1024 x 768 w/ 32 bit color.
>When I put the resolution down to 800 x 600, it does not help too much.
>
>The font increase setting in Netscape is greyed out (can't use) under
>the View command.
The does not work in Linux. Never has. No one knows why either. Well,
actually someone probably does, but I have never seen an explanation.
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/mini/FDU.html (Font De-uglification)
http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html#ttf
http://feenix.eyep.net/xstuff/xfs.html
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Eli the Bearded <*@qz.little-neck.ny.us>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Isn't there a browser which DOES work?
Date: 18 Apr 2000 22:58:44 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc, James Waldby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Penpal International <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Isn't there a browser for linux which DOES work? I work with
> > > netscape...
> > > Just like windows, keeps crashing all the time!
> > A few things that may help with netscape...
> >
> > 1. UPGRADE
> > I don't know about other distros, but redhat 6.1 still ships something
> > like netscape 4.5. You can get RPMs for at least netscape 4.7, and can
> > get tarballs of netscape 4.72 with 128 bit encryption from the netscape
> > site. This should help your stability a lot.
4.5 is pretty stable for me, modulo memory leaks. I end up restarting
it about once or twice a week.
> > 2. Turn off JAVA and JAVA script ...{snip}
I find java can out and out crash the browser sometimes. Javascript
causes it to hang from time to time, usually only for very complicated
scripts (eg games). Typically I have java off and javascript on for
browsing.
> > 3. Planned restarts
Yeah, and don't select the option to have the first page be the
last one you looked at, in case it is what caused the crash.
> > Still not rock solid, but netscape now stays up for at least several
> > days at a time for me now. Better then netscape or ie under windows by
I find this depends on how much memory you can throw at it:
PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND
30657 username 0 0 125M 117M 7820 S 0 0.0 46.8 13:25 netscape-com
3705 username 13 0 69744 66M 59152 R 0 17.0 26.3 228:16 vmware
866 root 0 0 33840 31M 2312 S 0 0.9 12.6 291:13 X
> Another person seemed to be saying that netscape would hang by
> itself with only a few windows open, and run ok with about 10
> open. My own experience is that most of my netscape hangs
> have occurred when I had lots of netscape windows open, say
> 25 or 30 sets of search results, to maximize loss in accord
> with various laws of nature.
I've never noticed a corrolation between number of windows open and
crashing. I don't usually go above five to eight windows, though.
Elijah
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has patched some of the nastier javascript commands out of his netscape
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