Linux-Misc Digest #209, Volume #21 Thu, 29 Jul 99 13:13:08 EDT
Contents:
Re: CIA assassinations (MK)
Is RPM unique to Linux ? (John Robson)
Re: Interesting PPP Problem!! (Abdullah Ramazanoglu)
Probelm with dial-up networking ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
CD-RW - can't read them under Windows95, 3.1, etc... (de Matos)
Re: help on gcc (Paul D. Smith)
Re: Problems with Samba KHK - Accessdatabase ("Zorlu Yusuf")
missing ppp mystery continues? ("Gordon D. Anderson")
Re: starting KDE on Redhat 6 (Jean-Pierre Boucher)
Re: starting KDE on Redhat 6 (Jean-Pierre Boucher)
Re: netscape ("Jesper K. Pedersen")
Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3?? FIXED (talluto)
Re: Linux has finally crashed (Leonard Evens)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (MK)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: CIA assassinations
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:50:17 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:02:17 +0200, "A.T.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >No, the worst thing is that the selfish bourgeois, among the number of
>> >which unfortunately we must count you, are in complete control of the
>> >governments of the western world.
>> The only difference between bourgeoise man and the poor man
>> is that the bourgeoise man has more money. Give the poor man money
>> and you have the very same bourgeoise.
>The worst part is that if a poor man gets some money he thinks he is rich
>and will no longer socialize with his old friends.
That's human nature for you. The problem is, some people think
there is magic political potion that will change that. It won't. Which
is why capitalism is as egalitarian as it gets -- you don't have to be
born in "noble family", all you need is to get money to move upward
the social ladder. Since a fraction of people lose money, they
also lose status, so they move down the social ladder, which is why in
capitalism the market constantly "mixes" society as much as it
is possible at all in any conditions, and it just won't get any more
egalitarian than it is.
>> <snip>
>> >protecting individual irresponsibility. If the EU can resist the
>> >economic pressures of the US, the citizens there may yet come out on
>> >top.
>> OK, I live in Europe (in 2003 in EU). If it so much more better in
>> Europe, why don't you swap your citizenship with some European?
>> Why are you not moving to Europe if this is so much better. BTW,
>> I definitely would like to move to US.
>I also live in Europe, and even in the EU. We've got the Euro, not in the
>wallet, but only on stockexchanges and on the bank. The Euro is going to be
>one of the major currencies in the world.
This is subject to politics between central bank and EU bureaucracy.
The struggle over currency issues between governments and central
banks is typical. I have faith in Euro, but I have little faith in
socialist bureaucrats not trying to screw it up.
The Europe is still horribly expensive. Too expensive. US has world
superiority in technological and financial advancement, Asia has
hardworking and very inexpensive labor, but what Europe is to feature?
What is it that will allow Europe to exploit the Comparative Advantage
law?
>Generally speaking, I don't think Europe is much better then the US. If you
>want to move to the US, why don't you.
When I graduate (soon), I certainly will try.
Marcin Krol
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Robson)
Subject: Is RPM unique to Linux ?
Date: 29 Jul 1999 14:51:15 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Robson)
A newbie question.
I'm just wondering : Is RPM used only on Linux ?
Can RPM be used on FreeBSD ? and if not, why not ? Why aren't
applications packaged as RPM on other Unix platforms ?
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From: Abdullah Ramazanoglu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Interesting PPP Problem!!
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:44:34 +0300
"Wajdi H. Al-Jedaibi" wrote:
>
> I am running RedHat 6.0 on my workstation and Redhat 5.2 on my laptop,
> for some reason I am unable to establish ppp connection from my
> workstation, although I am using exactly the same chatscript I connect
> with from my laptop. Here are the files that I copied to from laptop to
> the workstation:
> /etc/resolv.conf
> /etc/hosts
> /etc/ppp/chatscript
> /etc/ppp/options
> /etc/ppp/pap-secrets
>
> when debugging pppd, I get the following:
>
> ....expect CONNECT
> ....^M
> ....alarm
^^^^^
> .....connection failed
>
> Changing the time-out for chat with -t option did not work also!!
>
> Any ideas??
>
> Wajdi.
Salaam Wajdi,
AFAIK "alarm" means time-out. So your modem can't "CONNECT" to remote
site in the first place. (Or it connects, but somehow fails to feedback)
Do you have the same modem at both machines? Because different modems
usually need different commands for special tasks. However, if you use
basic commands, any Hayes compatible (AT) modem should work. One usually
needs only "ATZ" for modem init, and "ATDT?????????" for dialling out.
Do you have any fancy commands besides that?
Another thought: I would recommend installing KDE and all associated
utilities (even if you don't intend to use them) on RH6.0 and use kppp
as your ISP connection tool. You don't need to make a bit of setup at
system to use kppp. It does all setup dynamically on the fly when you
connect, and reverts back when you disconnect. It has its own setup
utility.
If you decide to use kppp, observe the following please:
i) /etc/ppp/options file must exist, and must be empty.
ii) chmod u+s /usr/bin/kppp /usr/sbin/pppd
Hope this helps,
--
Abdullah Ramazanoglu ( aramazanoglu AT demirbank DOT com DOT tr )
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Probelm with dial-up networking
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:36:18 GMT
I have Slackware 4.0 installed and I ran pppsetup to set up my dial up
connection to my ISP. As it turns out, it connects but never
authenticates. Here a clip from the log file:
Serial connection established.
Using interface ppp0
Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0xdabccd7b> <pcomp>
<accomp>] last message repeated 9 times
LCP: timout sending Config-Requests
Connection terminated.
Exit.
I see that the ISP is sending me information, but my computer does not
seem to care. What I mean is that I see the recieve light blink
several times after connection, and every time I send out a request.
Can some please help me before I give up and with another OS.
Thanks,
Mike
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: de Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD-RW - can't read them under Windows95, 3.1, etc...
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:30:24 +0200
Hi there,
i'm now a lucky owner of a Yamaha 4416S (well, not me,
my employer :).
After reading the mkisofs and cdrecord documentation
i've started to write to one CD-RW medium to see if it
works. I was able to mount and read it fine under the
Linux box where i've burned it, also under Windows NT4.0.
However, under 98, 95 and older OS's it doesn't work
at all (The OS says : Drive D: not ready).
I also wasn't able to read it on another Linux box with
a 4 speed CD device !
Here the commands and options i've used:
1- mkisofs -v -l -o image.raw /tmp/files
2- cdrecord dev=3,0 -eject speed=4 image.raw
(also tryed with single and double speed, same result)
What am i missing here ? Isn't that right that you should
not enable the Rock Ridge (-R) extension since Windows 95
doesn't understands it ?
Please help me
Best regards
Filipe Matos
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: help on gcc
Date: 29 Jul 1999 12:30:05 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%% grant@nowhere. (Grant Edwards) writes:
>> | man gcc?
>>
>> Or, maybe, info gcc. AFAIK, the man page is not maintained any more,
>> and the info page is more complete anyway.
ge> I hate info. I don't want to wander around some menu tree for
ge> hours looking for something. I just want to search for strings!
Have you tried... gasp!... reading the docs on info?
You want the "s" key.
Also see the very cool "i" key.
--
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Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Network Management Development
"Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist
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These are my opinions---Nortel Networks takes no responsibility for them.
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From: "Zorlu Yusuf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,at.linux,linux.samba
Subject: Re: Problems with Samba KHK - Accessdatabase
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:54:45 +0200
I have the same problems with Applications using BDE and Access!
Zorlu Yusuf
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Raimund Sacherer schrieb in Nachricht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have problems with the Program KHK (Windows Accounting Program) which
>uses
>a Access Database residing on the Linux/Samba Server. It opens the
>database
>terrible slow (it�s about 8 mb). Also packed .zip files are horrible to
>unpack over the Network from the Samba server. Even small files! Is
>there a
>solution? Or did i make same mistakes in configuration?
>
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From: "Gordon D. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: missing ppp mystery continues?
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:56:52 GMT
My new Linux installation seems to be working well and
Netscape looks good, except that I have no way to dial out.
On my Slackware computer, ppp support loads as a module. lsmod
shows that ppp is available, yet the command ppp-on is not found.
I have been using su before entering the command ppp-on. A
directory search can't find the ppp command anywhere. The
configuration file /etc/rc.d/rc.modules has the ppp modprobe
enabled. Of course, I can't see what is actually in
/sbin/modprobe.ppp .
My bootscreen includes the following lines:
modprobe: Can't locate module char-major-10-135
Updating module dependencies for Linux 2.0.30
lp1 at 0X0378, (polling)
ppp: version 2.20 (dynamic channel allocation)
PPP Dynamic channel allocation Code copyright 1995 Caldera,Inc
PPP line discipline registered.
I don't know what the first line about modprobe means, but the
rest seems to be saying that ppp is there. I have checked
/etc/inittab to verify that the rc.inet files are being called
and the init files in /etc/rc.d seem to be set correctly. So,
I'm stumped. What should I try next? Thanks.
Please reply by e-mail as well as posting. Newsgroup availabilty
from this ISP is not very reliable. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jean-Pierre Boucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: starting KDE on Redhat 6
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:07 GMT
A simple way to go is to create a .xinitrc in your home directory and put
startkde in it.
Then to start KDE, type startx.
"www.Boxing-Connection.com" wrote:
> I installed Redhat 6.0. It seems GNOME is the default Windows Manager when
> type "startx".
>
> How can I start KDE? Is "kdm" not enough? When I do "kde", it starts
> giving me error messages.
>
> I did install KDE when I was installing Linux itself. Do I need to
> configure somewhere?
>
> Also, if there is a site that explains, I appreciate.
> Thanks in advance.
> ---------------------------------------------
> The Boxing Connection and Fitness Center, Inc.
> www.Boxing-Connection.com
> (914)376-9368
> ---------------------------------------------
--
Jean-Pierre Boucher
DBA Team
7-3246
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From: Jean-Pierre Boucher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: starting KDE on Redhat 6
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:57:41 GMT
A simple way to go is to create a .xinitrc in your home directory and put
startkde in it.
Then to start KDE, type startx.
"www.Boxing-Connection.com" wrote:
> I installed Redhat 6.0. It seems GNOME is the default Windows Manager when
> type "startx".
>
> How can I start KDE? Is "kdm" not enough? When I do "kde", it starts
> giving me error messages.
>
> I did install KDE when I was installing Linux itself. Do I need to
> configure somewhere?
>
> Also, if there is a site that explains, I appreciate.
> Thanks in advance.
> ---------------------------------------------
> The Boxing Connection and Fitness Center, Inc.
> www.Boxing-Connection.com
> (914)376-9368
> ---------------------------------------------
--
Jean-Pierre Boucher
DBA Team
7-3246
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From: "Jesper K. Pedersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: netscape
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 17:38:26 +0200
Michel Catudal wrote:
> James Stafford wrote:
> >
> > Michel Catudal wrote:
> > >
> > > Thomas C Sobczynski wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Holczhammer Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > I use netscape (4.5) under linux. When I click on a mailto-tag, netscape
> > > > > close itself automatically. Why?
> > > >
> > > > Did you download the full communicator, or navigator standalone?
> > > >
> > > > > (It was funny when I downloaded 35M from an 42M file)
> > > >
> > > > Um, what made you think this would work at all, if you didn't download
> > > > the whole thing? Download the newest Communicator, 4.61 I believe,
> > > > install it, and try again.
> > >
> > > That would be a bad move since 4.51 crash on many installation. I've
> > > got 3 PC so far that crash with these versions. 4.5 works sort of OK.
> > >
> > > --
> > > use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
> > > use Linux for safe and quick internet access
> > > use Winblows to test the latest viruses
> > > http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> > > We have software, food, music, news, search,
> > > history, electronics and genealogy pages.
> >
> > That's kind of strange since I installed 4.51 more than a month ago it
> > has never crashed! 4.5 used to crash sometimes.
> >
>
> try this site
>
> http://www.bluemountainarts.com
>
> choose the birthday cards
>
> then you go to the second page and choose "Happy birthday to you"
>
> Have fun!
>
> --
> use OS/2 for a crash proof work environment
> use Linux for safe and quick internet access
> use Winblows to test the latest viruses
> http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
> We have software, food, music, news, search,
> history, electronics and genealogy pages.
Or just go to http://wwp.mirabilis.com/10818276 - which crashes my netscape every
time until i switched off the java (not javascript) part of netscape. After that I
dont get the sudden closure of netscape. Any idea of how to fix this ?
It is the same problem since Net. Communicator Rel. 4.51 - Im currently up to date
with the 4.61
Best regards
Jesper K. Pedersen
PS. Perhaps Internet Explorer isnt such a bad alternative anyways... Naw... Ill
stick around on Linux a littelbit eventhough it starts to bear the mark of
Microsoft deseases...
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From: talluto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: wvdial can't find modem on Com 3?? FIXED
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 16:40:50 GMT
You uncommented the ttyS2 in the 'auto config' section, or the 'manual
config' section?
Thanks.
Ronald Haynes wrote:
> Hi, thanks for everyones help.... the problem had to
> do with the PNP initialization on boot up... I had
> to overide this by uncommenting a line in the serial
> file in /etc/rc.d. Upon doing this, wvdial now sees my modem.
>
> Thanks,
> R Haynes
>
> Bill Unruh wrote in message <7l4fea$bfn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >In <7l49tr$bgs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Ronald Haynes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> writes:
> >
> >>Hi, I have installed Suse 6.1, and have "configured" my modem
> >>with Yast under Com 3 (in dos). Seems to work...
> >
> >>running wvdial on /etc/wvdial.conf fails because no
> >>modem is found either on ttyS1 or ttyS2 (supposedly the
> >>correct location... )
> >
> >I have had trouble getting wvdial to run. That could be your problem.
> >you may have a winmodem. Was that configuring under dos, under a dos
> >session on windows? Winmodems will not work under Linux.
> >
> >
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From: Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Linux has finally crashed
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:20:25 -0500
K Kal wrote:
>
> Hello guys,
>
> I have a big problem on my hands!
>
> I think I've crashed my Linux system. I was running some applications
> in the background, and all of a sudden the system froze. I know that
> doesn't make sense, but that's what happened!
>
> I tried to login remotely, but didn't get anywhere. So I hit the reset
> button on the computer. Now the system won't boot up!!
>
> As it is doing its initial boot up it says the following:
>
> Checking root filesystem
> /dev/hda6 contains a file system with errors, check forced
>
> [FAILED]
>
> /dev/hda6: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENSY; RUN fsck MANUALLY
> (ie, without -a or -p options)
>
> *** An error occurred during the file system check
> *** Dropping you to a shell; the system will reboot
> *** when you leave the shell.
>
> Give root password for maintenance
> (or type Control-D for normal startup):
>
> Do you have any clue as to what the problem might be or even how to fix
> it/get around it??? I'm afraid I might have to re-format!!
>
> Thanks
> K.Kal
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
You got a lot of responses, but I don't know if anyone mentioned
the following point. Usually, when you turn off the machine
without shutting down safely (as in Ctrl-Alt-Del), fsck fixes
the file system upon rebooting without your intervention.
Occasionally, it meets a situation which it can't deal with and
requests that you run fsck manually. This is a characteristic
of Unix, not specifically of Linux. I have encountered this
from time to time on machines running SunOS as well as Linux.
(Actually, I've found crashes much more common with Suns than
with PCs running Linux.) When you first see those messages,
they look pretty scary, since you aren't likely to know what
the `correct' responses are to the questions posed in a manual
fsck. However, the best course is to run fsck on the relevant
file system (or file systems) and just give the default answer
(usually Y) to all the questions. I have been doing this for
years without serious consequences. I can only think of one
occasion where some crucial files were damaged and I had to
recover them from a backup (and that was on an old Sun).
The point is that the file system is synced every 30 seconds
by default, so that it is unlikely that important files will
be corrupted. Of course if your application is writing to disk,
there is a good chance the files it writes will be corrupted.
But you can just remove them and start over again once the
system is up.
It is possible you could have got an alternate terminal by
using Alt-Fn for n=1,2,3..,6, or if you were running
X, Ctrl-Alt-Fn. But if you couldn't login remotely, that is
not too likely.
--
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Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
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