Linux-Misc Digest #209, Volume #25 Sun, 23 Jul 00 03:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can I pass sockets between processes ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Trident Image3D975 AGP ("WF")
Re: Lilo broken??? (Bob Niederman)
Re: mount hangs - cdrom and floppy (Mike)
Re: O'Reilly book "Running Linux" useless? (Mary P)
Re: Curses or SVGA based system monitor ("Daryl Johnson")
Re: Operating systems for personal-computers? (Steve Petrov)
Re: Users and public_html security question. (David Efflandt)
telnetd: All network ports in use ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Power Management with APMD (David Efflandt)
CD Writing Software
Re: Lilo Error 0x10 PLEASE HELP (utMax)
Startup questions ("Micromans")
Startup in RedHat 6.0 ("Micromans")
missing RAM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Can't find installed (A. B.)
Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition! (Tim Lyth)
Re: missing RAM ("Steve Wolfe")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Can I pass sockets between processes
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 03:17:34 GMT
Gast Primus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> This is my problem I hope you can help.
> I have 3 processes A B and C running on a single processor. A writes to B
> via a socket, B reads the info and passes it on to C via a socket. Is it
> possible for B to pass A's socket to C so they can read and write directly
> returning the socket to B when communication is over.
> References to books, man pages etc would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Iain
> NB I am running Red hat 5.1 but will upgrade if this helps
Correction on my previous message. It is Vol III the one you need.
This book does a very good job explaining the socket paradigm which
is usually client/server.
"Internetworking with TCP/IP", Volume III, BSD Socket Version,
Douglas E. Comer and David L. Stevens, Prentice Hall.
RC
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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 11:02:18 +0800
From: "WF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Trident Image3D975 AGP
I tried to install RH6.2 on my computer with a Trident 975 AGP chipset and
it won't do graphic install... I
installed earlier on on Mandrake 6.5 and I get similar problems... X just
either freezes or the resolution really sucks on a generic driver. Anyone
has encountered this problem before? My monitor is not a listed monitor but
I keyed in every information as stated in the manual but to no avail... Hope
to ehar from some kind soul... been really stuck with this problem for a
long time already. Thanx in advance.
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From: Bob Niederman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Lilo broken???
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:54:41 -0500
> Ray Lopez wrote:
>
> >
> > This whole thread underscores how software is dependent on hardware (and
> > vice versa). The big lie that Linux is "platform independent" is just that.
> > Try running Linux on a Mac as easily as on Unix hardware. Linux is made for
> > Unix machines (mainframes), or, rather, it was ported to a PC with a
> > mainframe in mind (not an ideal solution).
> >
>
Gary Hallock wrote:
>
> Is this a contest to see who can got the most things wrong in one small
> paragraph? If, so, I guess you win.
Ray will always win that one. Thanx for your response. Ray's writing
momentarily dumbfounded me. I knew EVERYTHING he wrote was wrong - as
it ALWAYS the case whenever he says ANYTHING technical - but I just
didn't know where to start the refutation.
Ray, why don't you just give up? Even though we hate feeding trolls, we
will continue to point out all the technical inaccuracies in your
writings and you will continue to look stupid.
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- Bob Niederman http://bob-n.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike)
Subject: Re: mount hangs - cdrom and floppy
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 22 Jul 2000 21:52:27 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary P):
> >> Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > On both cdrom and floppy, my mount hangs. I can play audio cd's and
> >> > format
>
> mount -v -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> tail -f /var/log/messages
Good idea , I didn't think of looking there. Unfortunately , there weren't any
clues left there.
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Mike
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mary P)
Subject: Re: O'Reilly book "Running Linux" useless?
Date: 23 Jul 2000 04:39:06 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 22 Jul 2000 17:25:40 -0500, Robert Love
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :
>
>I got a copy of the Welsh book with my distribution.
>. . . 2nd time I use it I find several errors.
>
>For example, in Chapter 8, the section on Making
Backups tells me that
>my non-rewinding SCSI drive is /dev/nrst0.
I don't have such a
>device. I do have /dev/nst0. [snip]
I'm told
>that I can use mt like this:
>
> # mt /dev/nrst0 rewind
>
>That fails. The man page tells me I need
mt -f /dev/nst0 rewind.
[snip] How good is this book?
I have Running Linux from O'Reilly, 1999 edition,
and use it regularly
along with about five other reference books
since I am a recent
beginner (7 or 8 months Linux use).
I have found it to be the most complete of my
references though each reference has different
strengths.
I have not yet found any questionable
instructions like the one you point out
(which appears in my edition the same as you
describe).
On my RH 5.2 like you I have a /dev/nst0 (the file,
not any corresponding physical device).
In a deja search (for curiosity),
I found references to both
/dev/nstx and /dev/nrstx (for the same thing)
in newsgroup postings.
Most of the /nrstx ones were in the context
of other Unices, most but not all the /nstx
references were in Linux discussions. One
post referred to /nrst0 in RH 6.1.
While newsgroup posts are definitely not
always meaningful, is it possible a) /nrstx
has superceded /nstx? or b) this is variable
among distributions?
Someone more knowledgeable can sort that
part out, but to answer your question: I have
found Running Linux quite serviceable and
seen it recommended more often than any other
reference book.
If you don't like it and go looking for something
else, I'd suggest avoiding books that are just
compendiums of help that's already available on-line
or in the documentation on your CDROM
(unless you really *need* to have paper in your
hands). I wasted about $20 that way.
MP
_
. .
V
// \\
// \\
(W W)
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From: "Daryl Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Curses or SVGA based system monitor
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:06:38 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8ld72a$qpk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>
> I'm looking for a curses or SVGA based system monitor to run on my linux
> boxes' consoles. I don't want an X version, because I don't wan the
> overhead of having to run an X server.
>
> Any good ones out there? I'm interested in Net traffic, uptime, load
> average, and maybe services being used (http load vs ftp vs nfs, etc)
>
> Please let me know whats out there . . . I'd rather not have to write my
> own.
I use NOCOL (Network Operations Center On-Line). It has a text console as
well as an http interface. Check it out at
http://www.netplex-tech.com/software/nocol/
Hope this helps,
Daryl
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From: Steve Petrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.lang.oberon,comp.os.lynx,comp.os.mach,comp.os.misc,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc
Subject: Re: Operating systems for personal-computers?
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 00:49:30 -0400
Kelly and Sandy wrote:
>
> In a alt.os.linux.mandrake newsletter entitled "LINUX SUX THE BIG
> WAZOO!", Rootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
> >Linux isn't for everyone it certainly isn't for the average user
> >for a desktop PC - although it will gladly fill that role if
> >desired. It requires the user to relearn a lot of the ingrained
> >ideas that MS has foisted off on us over the years and forces the
> >user to actually understand what he is doing.
> >
> >If you don't like it then don't use it. Donate you CD to a local
> >school or friend who can put it to use. Linux works, it was you
> >that failed to understand it's intracasies and nuances. Move on,
> >go back to Windows and chalk it up to experience.
>
> My middle name is "Newbie".
>
> I'd like to ask any people who happen to be browsing this newsletter
> what viable personal computer operating systems are available today,
> besides your Microsoft.
>
> There's the Macintosh (MacOS) Next computer I get will be a Mac.
> There's Linux Hmm, we all know and love this one.
> There's Oberon Not cooperative multitasking?
> There's BeOS Thin, very thin, last I looked.
> There's EPOC32 Nice. Is this only for handhelds?
> There's OS2 Not sure. Is this still ongoing?
>
> By "viable", I refer to the intuited meaning: that my grandmother
> could start use it and begin to think of the computer as her "personal
> computer".
>
> In all seriousness, is there anything else I should consider?
Yes, DOS. There's still tons of software that was written for and some
new software that's being developed. It's much more alive than OS/2.
Lots of companies other than M$ have released versions and its small
footprint makes it ideal for PDAs.
As a starting point see:
Distributions of the OS:
http://www.drdos.com/
http://www.freedos.org/
DOS web browsers:
http://www.arachne.cz/ A very cool looking graphical web browser
Commercial Software still supported and developed:
http://www.framework.com/ A very comprehensive office suite originally
developed by Ashton-Tate, then Borland and now Selections * Functions,
Inc.
Free Abandonware aps & Games:
http://www.486data.cjb.net/
http://abandonware.universal.av7.net/abandonware.html
and of course...
The DOS emulater for PSION/EPOC http://www.nb-info.co.uk/index.htm
HTH,
Steve
> With kind regards,
>
> Sandy
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Users and public_html security question.
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:17:50 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000 23:21:44 GMT, Mats Pettersson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I'm creating users which i allow to have homepages in ~user/public_html
>directory. However to let apache get access to those pages i have to
>allow read for all users on the users home directory.
>
>Have i missed some configuration or is there a workaround?
>
>I'm using RedHat Linux 6.2 kernel 2.2.5-22 and apache 1.3.12
If the other replies confuse you, simply set the user's home dir to 701.
This allows access to get to public_html, but does not allow a directory
listing of the home dir. Any CGI in public_html or lower cannot have more
than 755 for the script or the dir it is in.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: telnetd: All network ports in use
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:14:15 GMT
I've been running telnetd under inetd with kernel 2.2.5-15. After I
upgraded to kernel 2.2.16-3, telnet clients are rejected with the
message "telnetd: All network ports in use". Other ports and daemons
like ftpd and httpd work fine with both kernels.
What is this message trying to tell me?
advTHANKSance
Alan
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Power Management with APMD
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:25:33 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Anil kumar Karanam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I am running Mandrake 7.1 on my machine ( AMD Athalon 650 +128M+30G )
>
>I am also running apmd with what ever standard configuration provided
>in /etc/sysconfig/apmd
>I have also enabled my BIOS power management settings
>
> I have noticed that after about 20 mins of idle time my machine goes
>into standby but it wakes up when I do something like moving the mouse
>or pressing any key.
>
> But recently I had noticed that if I leave it idle for a longer
>time even the power LED goes out and I cannot revive it by any of the
>above methods . ( though the CD drives work fine and I can here the
>fans inside )
Usually apmd is only recommended for laptops. You don't usually use it
for a regular PC, because it puts everything to sleep including any
network. When a machine goes into suspend, mouse movement will NOT awaken
it, but any keypress should. What does the owner's manual for your
computer say about suspend?
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CD Writing Software
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:30:10 GMT
Hello all,
I just want to know what software I'll need to record with my cd writer.
There seems to be a multitude of different software for this, and I don't
know which combination I should use. I've read the cd writing howto, and
have downloaded X-CD-Roast, CDRecord, CDParanoia, and Grip. However, I'm
not understanding which of these I need, or if I have the right software.
Any help with what combination to use, as well as how to get started would
be much appreciated. Unfortunately, I am not understanding the howto well
enough. Thank you.
Bob Gamble
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From: utMax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Lilo Error 0x10 PLEASE HELP
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 05:30:11 GMT
Dances With Crows wrote:
>
>
> According to the LILO documentation, error 0x10 means "CRC Error". This
> often means that LILO has been installed to a spot on the disk which
> contains bad sectors. The documentation suggests trying to boot again,
> booting from a floppy disk and re-running LILO, re-installing Linux,
> this time using the "Format and Check" option when it comes time to
> format/partition the disk, and as a last resort replacing the hard
> drive.
>
> Someone else reported this same problem not too long ago. It might help
> to know the motherboard and hard drive makes/models so we can determine
> if there are problems with a specific type of drive or chipset....
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to
see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin/ That which does not kill us
> http://www.brainbench.com / makes us stranger.
> ----------------------------/ --Trevor Goodchild
My hard drive is A 20 gig Fujitsu and My Motherboard is "1st Motherboard"
by FIC for a P2 with an AGP. I will try installing Redhat on my other hard
drive. I just don't know why it started doing this everything was going ok.
Thank you for your help.
Please help me
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From: "Micromans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Startup questions
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 09:59:10 -0700
1) I have Linux RedHat 6.0. I am using /etc/rc.d/rc.local to put startup
programs. I want a pause in the script because I first connect to my ISP via
PPPD, then I want to wait about 15 seconds for the connection to be made,
and after that I want my squid caching-proxy server to start. How can I put
a 15 second pause in the script?
2) What kind of script is rc.local? Is there a name for it?
3) What does the following code mean, and can someone suggest a reference
for this kind of script?
ie: if [ -f /usr/local/squid/bin/squid ] ; then
echo -n 'Squid'
(/usr/local/squid/bin/squid &)
fi
Thanks
Micromans
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From: "Micromans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Startup in RedHat 6.0
Date: Sat, 22 Jul 2000 22:39:37 -0700
1) I am using rc.local in RedHat 6.0 to place a pppd command for connecting
to my ISP. It works great. However, I then want to start my caching proxy
server (squid), but it should wait about 15 seconds before starting so that
the ISP connection has been made. How do I put a pause into the rc.local
script?
2) What script language does the rc.local use? Where can I get more info on
it?
3) What does the following mean? (Name of the program to run is squid). I
see many rc.local's use similar code to this:
if [ -f /usr/local/squid/bin/squid ]; then
echo -n ' Squid'
(/usr/local/squid/bin/squid &)
fi
Micromans
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: missing RAM
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:04:26 +0800
Try editting your lilo.conf (in /etc) file and add:
append="mem=396M"
before the first image statement and after the timeout line.
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From: A. B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Can't find installed
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 06:30:31 GMT
I have linux mandrake 7.0, just installed realplayer for linux on my
computer. thier is no icon on the desktop for it. And nothing on the KDE
for it. can you tell how to find the new installed program. and how to put
a icon for it on the desktop or a intree on the KDE. I have tried to uses
the KAppletfinder but nothing happed.
Thank you,for your help.
A. H. Bey
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Tim Lyth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Re: Please sign the "Grand Prix Legends" petition!
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:33:27 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Probably because they don't realise that their computer has slowed down so much
as it is a gradual thing. Also, they probably can't be bothered installing and
using a decent OS like Linux because they don't realise just how much software
there is out there to download of the net for nothing.
Cheers,
Tim Lyth
Kirk Lane wrote:
>
> Gordon McLachlan wrote:
> >
> > Linux is not an acceptable desktop operating system. It is useful as a web
> > server OS, but other than that it is an oddity, much like those who hype it
> > excessively.
>
> So to you an acceptable OS is one that tries to do too much for you (Let
> ME choose the drivers once in a while!!!!!!), that necessitates
> rebooting every few hours of use, piles up loads and loads of useless
> and system-slowing crap files, and never really has been close to
> stable??? You don't expect to have to restart your car after a few
> hours of driving, or for the car to decide it wants to take a longer
> slower way when you know a faster one, or the car to slow down
> dramatically after a few months of use...why do people accept that in
> their computers???
>
> Kirk Lane
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: missing RAM
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 01:03:05 -0600
> Try editting your lilo.conf (in /etc) file and add:
>
> append="mem=396M"
>
> before the first image statement and after the timeout line.
OK, I have a question about this. Up until last week, every time I've had
linux on a machine, it's always found the correct amount of RAM on it's own.
However, last time I put some in, it pulled the classic trick of only
finding 64 megs, and I had to use the mem= line to get it to work.
My question is, why can't linux see RAM on it's own sometimes?
steve
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