Linux-Misc Digest #300, Volume #21 Thu, 5 Aug 99 17:13:05 EDT
Contents:
ISDN success? ("Aaron Dershem")
Re: Hot weather causing crashes? (Geoff McCaughan)
Power Failures & Linux ? ("Gordon D. Anderson")
Re: character based word processor?? (Geoff McCaughan)
Would anyone be interested in... (Patrick LeBlanc)
Linux Games ("Michael John")
Re: RedHat-5.2 + trn + follow up.. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Clone a harddisk (Wine Development)
Re: Need good Linux equiv to Win95/98/NT4 find text in file function (Wine
Development)
Re: Linux PGP5 (Rainer Wiener)
Re: Installing Netscape 4.61 (memyself)
Starting StarOffice as Non-Installation User (Adrian Geekie)
Re: why do I lose my entire system at restart, how to minimize loss? (Robert Heller)
LOADLIN with RH 6.0 (Robin Becker)
upgrading gcc to 2.95 via RPM (Dave Bailey)
Re: why do I lose my entire system at restart, how to minimize loss?
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Seeking Linux UDP broadcast forwarding solution (epadin)
Caldera 2.2 Linux Install was easy !!! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Form Generation -- Print Formatter Application (Tom Burba)
Re: Starting StarOffice as Non-Installation User (Vincent Fox)
Posted already for the third time ("RT")
Re: root pw problem - URGENT (Jesper Overgaard)
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From: "Aaron Dershem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ISDN success?
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 13:04:07 -0500
I'm looking into ISDN at home. I can't get xDSL or cable modem, so it looks
like this is the only high-speed option for me. What kinds of experiences
has anyone had? Also, if you can recommend any hardware that is compatible
with SouthWestern Bell (my local baby-bell), that'd be even better.
I'll be connecting it (I hope) to my Red Hat 5.2 box running the 2.2.6
kernel. This is so I can use ipchains to masquerade a Mac and a Win98
computer.
Thanks for any help on the road to fast surfing!
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From: Geoff McCaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Hot weather causing crashes?
Date: 5 Aug 1999 18:14:29 GMT
reid@maxwell wrote:
> Hi,
> At home I use a 7 year old 50 MHz 486 which over the last few
> months has started occasionally spontaneously rebooting, usually when
> I'm editing something. It seems to happen on hot nights, so I thought
> split second blackouts from too many air conditioners might be the
> cause, but nothing else (i.e. clocks) seems to be affected, and if I
> try restarting Linux right after one of these crashes, it gets just
> past the fscking before crashing again, making me think that the CPU
> might be too hot, even though all my fans are working (at least when I
> watch them).
> Has this happened to anyone else? Is there a cheap solution?
It happened to me, quite similar circumstances. I picked up a cheap peltier
cooler at a surplus place and fitted that - since then, no problems.
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From: "Gordon D. Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Power Failures & Linux ?
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 19:11:06 GMT
I know about uninterruptable power supplies but can't go
there just yet. My question is:
For a single-user home system, just how serious are power
failures? There have been several outages lately and my
system always seems to recover, though it takes a little
time. I know that I can lose data not yet stored, but is
there any danger to applications or to the set-up of Linux
or X ? Thanks.
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From: Geoff McCaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: character based word processor??
Date: 5 Aug 1999 18:17:48 GMT
T.E.Dickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> - There is rumor of a text mode version of WordPerfect; this would be
>> a Very Good Thing, if true. As far as I can tell, it's not.
> It's bundled only with the server version ($500).
Not true. I have the personal version of WP and it offers to install a
text-only version, though I've never tried it.
You have to get the CD-ROM, it doesn't come with the free download version.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick LeBlanc)
Subject: Would anyone be interested in...
Date: 5 Aug 1999 19:12:33 GMT
Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in purchasing Pentium
or Pentium Pro optimized versions of the RH 6.0 RPMS.
I'm currently rebuilding all of the packages, including all of the updates
available as of yesterday (which includes a working GNOME as well), with
the RH patched egcs 1.1.2 compiler. I figure if burn the rebuilt RPMS to
CD and offer it to other people, I could save a lot of people A LOT of
time and sweat.
The CDs would go for about $10. Does anyone think this is worthwhile?
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From: "Michael John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Games
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 17:47:22 GMT
Hi all, I realize most of you are using Linux for serious reasons; The web,
intranets, SendMail, etc. I'm a new user of Caldera's Open Linux 2.2 and
really would like suggestions on some good Linux games.
I know of www.happypenguin.org and other Linux games sites.
What I'd like is some feedback on the games you all play.
I have an overclocked P200MMx (to 225) and a voodoo 4 meg card as well.
Please post your favourite games as this will immensly help a project of
mine.
Thank you very much!!
Michael
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat-5.2 + trn + follow up..
Date: 5 Aug 1999 14:35:18 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Latenar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>ishwar rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hello
>>
>>Tried to follow up a post with `trn' using F, I see the following
>>error message?
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>- ishwar
:-)
Have you set your NNTPSERVER environment variable if you choose to get your
feed in that way? Seems like trn is working fine, but is looking for the
newsgroup in a non-existent news spool.
man trn
Adam
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From: Wine Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Clone a harddisk
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:40:54 +0100
Robert Rehrl wrote:
>
> Hello!
>
> we have a SUSE 6.1 Internet- and E-Mail- Server (P166; IDE-Harddisk
> 8,4 GB) installed. To be save from a total breakdown, we need to clone
> the actual state of the harddisk. Does Anybody know any tools to do
> this?
>
> Thanks ...
>
> cu
> Robert
Why not try mirroring the HD. see the Root-RAID HOWTO at sunsite (may be
on your system anyway.
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From: Wine Development <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need good Linux equiv to Win95/98/NT4 find text in file function
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 09:48:03 +0100
Lucius Chiaraviglio wrote:
> The problem is that not only is this rather messy; in addition, it
> bombs out sometimes with "find: fgrep terminated by signal 11" and
> then turns into a pair of processes (the find and the fgrep) which
Sig 11 is usually a sign that you have a RAM problem.How you would check
this on your machine I have no idea as I have no experience of the Qube.
An alternative syntax for your search would be
grep 'search text' `find <start directory> -name 'name pattern'`
if your target files were of a particular type (e.g. 'C' .H files)
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From: Rainer Wiener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux PGP5
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 18:35:14 +0200
Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "Shamsuddin, Amir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Could someone point me to a linux e-mail client which supports pgp5
>> encryption? I have so far failed to find anything useful. (Most only
>> support pgp 2.6.2 )
> Pine supports PGP 5.0. You have to either write a few shell scripts for
> wrappers to get this to work correctly, or e-mail me and I'll send you the
> ones that I use. If you like emacs, it supports PGP 5.0 via the "mailcrypt"
> package. I'm not sure of the URL for the homepage, but it can be found on
> Freshmeat.
Also mutt supports PGP 5.0 have a lock at http://www.mutt.org
> Hope this helps,
> Jeff
>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Amir Shamsuddin
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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From: memyself <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Installing Netscape 4.61
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 17:43:25 GMT
I think MS in and of it's self is unstable. IE5 works good because it is
part of the windows operating system. Let Microsoft try and make something
stable that isn't windows driven and I think you will find more crashes then
netscape.
Just my opinion
Steve
On Mon, 02 Aug 1999, Rado Faletic wrote:
>> I use IE5.
>
>Me too. I find it MUCH more stable than any of the Netscape builds. Pity
>MS doesn't get into the Linux buzz, I'm sure many people would still use
>MS-Office under Linux, and IE.
>
>Not that open source is no good... but MS do have some reasonable
>products and I think we could all benefit from some of them (like IE5).
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From: Adrian Geekie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Starting StarOffice as Non-Installation User
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 21:44:37 -0200
Good Day
I installed StarOffice 5.1 when logged in as root. I am running RedHat
Linux 5.2. When I log in as any other user and try to star StarOffice,
the disk makes a lot of noise but nothing hapens. No error messages,
nothing.
How do I start StarOffice when logged in as a user other than root?
Anybody know.
Thanks Adrian
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: why do I lose my entire system at restart, how to minimize loss?
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 19:34:45 GMT
"Matt Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Thu, 5 Aug 1999 12:36:18 -0400, wrote :
"B> I understand that linux doesn't write things to disk until shutdown, neither
False, it flushes its disk cache every 2 seconds or so.
"B> does NT. Occasionally NT will lockup beyond repair and I have to reset the
"B> machine. NT recovers from this dirty shutdown 95% of the time. Linux
"B> recovers from a dirty shutdown 5% of the time. My linux installation locks
"B> up at least once every few days which means I am constantly having to
"B> reinstall. What is the best solution to prevent this reinstallation?
What do you mean by 'linux installation locks up'? If you mean the X11
screen freezes, that does not mean linux is locked up! Unlike NT, the
GUI is NOT part of the kernel. Even if X11 locks up, it should be
possible to get to another virtual console (Ctrl-Alt-F2, F3, etc.), and
login again and kill off the X server. There is also the 'magic' SysRq
key trick.
Also, what do you mean by 'Linux recovers from a dirty shutdown 5% of
the time'? Are you pushing the reset button and then freaking when fsck
runs? fsck is normal -- let it run, *I* have *never* seen a Linux box
that have been power-cycled or reset that *failed* to recover, unless
the disk itself had crashed hard or had some other hardware fault (i.e.
bad memory, sick motherboard, missing or improper SCSI terminator, etc.).
"B> Should I back up my installation on another partition or perhaps a tape?
"B> What is best?
Backups are always a good idea.
"B>
"B> Is there a way that I can sacrifice speed for crash protection? (so the
"B> system writes everything to disk immediately)
"B>
"B> The biggest issue I suppose is finding the cause of these crashes.
"B>
"B> I thought it was my Cyrix processor so I put in an intel. The crashing
"B> continues.
"B> Now I am wondering whether it is the piece of trash trident card I have got
"B> in there.
"B>
"B> Any help would be appreciated...
"B> thanks
"B> matt
"B>
"B>
"B>
"B>
"B>
"B>
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LOADLIN with RH 6.0
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 19:56:33 +0100
My RH 6.0 installed Lilo by default. The boss wants the old style
Win9x/NT method back (ie using the config.sys boot menu). What should I
copy across to c:/loadlin from the /boot area. I assume that
uninstalling Lilo will restore the original mbr (boot.003 or whatever).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Bailey)
Subject: upgrading gcc to 2.95 via RPM
Date: 5 Aug 1999 19:57:49 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is this a good idea? I tried it on my RH 5.2 running the
2.2 kernel with glibc 2.1.1 and the best I could manage
was to get to the point where I could compile programs,
but running them always resulted in a core dump with
"Illegal Instruction". Even hello, world did this.
What is the procedure for updating gcc via RPM? Is it
really as simple as getting all the 2.95 rpms and installing
them? Or am I better off downloading the source code and
building from that? I reverted back to the old compilers
and things seem to be working again, but I would prefer
to use 2.95 because I want to try out the Java compiler.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: why do I lose my entire system at restart, how to minimize loss?
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 19:05:32 GMT
In article <7oceiv$q35$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Matt Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I understand that linux doesn't write things to disk until shutdown,
neither
> does NT. Occasionally NT will lockup beyond repair and I have to
reset the
> machine. NT recovers from this dirty shutdown 95% of the time. Linux
> recovers from a dirty shutdown 5% of the time. My linux installation
locks
> up at least once every few days which means I am constantly having to
> reinstall. What is the best solution to prevent this reinstallation?
>
> Should I back up my installation on another partition or perhaps a
tape?
> What is best?
>
> Is there a way that I can sacrifice speed for crash protection? (so
the
> system writes everything to disk immediately)
>
> The biggest issue I suppose is finding the cause of these crashes.
You hit the nail on the head there! Something isn't quite right. I found
linux to be extremely stable (so have a lot of others, I take it). If
there is nothing too crucial on your system, maybe a reinstall or
upgrade could help. Just a suggestion.
>
> I thought it was my Cyrix processor so I put in an intel. The
crashing
> continues.
> Now I am wondering whether it is the piece of trash trident card I
have got
> in there.
>
> Any help would be appreciated...
> thanks
> matt
>
>
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From: epadin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Seeking Linux UDP broadcast forwarding solution
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 19:47:51 GMT
My organization is using Linux-based router/firewalls. We have an
application that we wish to firewall but it uses UPD broadcasts. Right
now, we have it segregated by a Cisco router but we would like route
through a Linux box. The server sends out a directed UDP broadcast
destined to specific networks like 192.168.15.255, 192.168.16.255, etc.
The Cisco router has a 'udp forward' command whereby you specify the
UDP port and it will forward all UDP broadcast traffic seen on the
port. I am seeking a program that will emulate this Cisco feature on a
Linux machine. My company is willing to pay for a programmer to develop
this program if it is not already part of the already available
programs out there.
If anyone can help me with this I will greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Caldera 2.2 Linux Install was easy !!!
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 19:46:40 GMT
Maybe I was just lucky, but after 3 different systems,
I found it to be easy.
SYSTEM # 1:
First I tried it on a exrta system we have at work.
The install was quick and easy. The only problem
I found so far was that the video driver has some
bugs in it. about 75% of the time the system boots
to a blank screen. Later on I'll try re-installing
the system with another video board.
SYSTEM #2:
When I told my friend Paul how easy it was, he pulled
out one of his extra "older" computers. That install
was easy. So far he hasn't seen any problems.
SYSTEM #3:
For fun, I installed the system on my Hitachi notebook
computer (4140). I really didn't expect it to work, but
it worked !!! So far, I haven't seen any problems.
After hearing of others spending days to weeks getting
Linux running, I didn't think that it would ever be
easy. Considering the fact that I know NOTHING about
this stuff. <smile>
Maybe others won't be as luckey as I was, but I
believe that Caldera has made it a lot easier for
people to put Linux on their systems.
By the way, Caldera gave me a free copy of their
software at the PC EXPO show (NYC). If I had known
how good it would be, I would have gladly paid them
for it.
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From: Tom Burba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Form Generation -- Print Formatter Application
Date: 5 Aug 1999 19:30:37 GMT
Anyone know of an application that can take print output and merge it with
a Laser Printer Macro or overlay file? We need this for high volume work.
TIA
Tom Burba
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U. S. Vision, Inc.
609-228-1000
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vincent Fox)
Subject: Re: Starting StarOffice as Non-Installation User
Date: 5 Aug 1999 19:49:56 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Adrian Geekie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Good Day
>I installed StarOffice 5.1 when logged in as root. I am running RedHat
>Linux 5.2. When I log in as any other user and try to star StarOffice,
>the disk makes a lot of noise but nothing hapens. No error messages,
>nothing.
>How do I start StarOffice when logged in as a user other than root?
>Anybody know.
Get another key and re-install as that user. You will note
when you got the software it talked about being a *personal*
copy. This means you as Joe may run it. As Bob, you have to
do the whole thing over again. Massively annoying.
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From: "RT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Posted already for the third time
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1999 23:12:01 +0200
Hey,
If have two problems with RED HAT 6.0 that I didn't had with the versions
5.0 and 5.2:
1) after running updatedb is the computer crashing;
2) after rebuiding and compiling the kernel in an completely exact way (like
under 5.0 and 5.2) I get after rebooting under RED HAT 6.0 the following
message:
NO SETUP SIGNATURE FOUND......
and I cannot start the new kernel.
Under Red Hat 5.0 and 5.2 the new kernel started without any problem.
Who can help me for resolving this two problems? Thank in advance.
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From: Jesper Overgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.slackware,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: root pw problem - URGENT
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 1999 21:50:28 +0200
CJ wrote:
>
> "J. Guy Stalnaker" wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > On a Slackware 3.0 system, the root password suddenly no longer works.
> Try typing the 'who' command. Check how many and what number of ttypx
> are open. Then look at /etc/securetty and maybe uncomment some of the
> ttypx lines. You might have too many open which will keep you from
> telneting in as root. Or close the windows that are using the ttypx and
> try again. Just a thought.
Sometimes telnet access as root is even disabled in /etc/securetty for
security reasons. Can you login as a normal user and then do a "su" to
become root?
Jesper Overgaard
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