Linux-Misc Digest #300, Volume #24 Fri, 28 Apr 00 06:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can't boot Linux from hard disk (Mark(un-MASKForsyth))
Re: suse 6.4 gnome no, kde yes (Koos Pol)
Linux embedded ("Jose Luis")
Re: Newbie question on installing linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: MP3 "walkman" and Linux support (Peter Simons)
Re: Floppy format problem. (Jean-Yves Simon)
Web mail, recommendations for unix ? (Declan Mullen)
Re: windows on linux? (Bastian)
Re: Floppy format problem. (Harold Bower)
Re: APACHE WON'T WORK... PLEASE HELP... (Koos Pol)
Linux and Windows98 partitions ("Phil Mossop")
par. IOmega ZIP: wrong major or minor number
Re: Linux and Windows98 partitions (Joseph Dale)
Re: Novell-Linux file transfer help (Doug Robbins)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth)
Subject: Re: Can't boot Linux from hard disk
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:39:13 +1000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 14:58:25 GMT, RJS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am having a similar problem. I was able to boot Redhat 6.1, but I changed
>CPU's from and Intel DX2 @ 50MHZ to a IBM/CYRIX DX4 @ 100MHZ and now
>magically I have this same problem, including the "crc" and the "invalid
>compression format". If I switch back to the Intel, its no problem to boot.
>Doses anybody have a clue? Is it possibly a problem with A20 line and the
>Cyrix?
Yes. This is a problem quite widely known in OS/2 circles. Trawling
dejanews should turn up something if you limit your search to the more
OS/2 relevant groups.
>
>"Ken Corbin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Still trying to get this old 486 to run Redhat 6.0. Got the LILO problems
>> all straitened out. But whenever it tries to run the standard linux kernal
>> image it gets an error while trying to uncompress it. Error varies from
>> "crc error" to "invalid compressed format". The odd thing is that it will
>> boot just fine from a rescue disk with what presumably is a copy of the
>> same kernal image. Tried copying the vmlinuz-2.2.5-15 to the hard disk
>and
>> setting up lilo to boot from the new copy. Changes the error I get, but
>> still fails while trying to uncompress the kernel.
>>
>> I stumped. For now the system is usable as long as I keep the rescue disk
>> in the floppy drive. But it is annoying and I would sure like to figure
>out
>> what is going wrong with the hard drive boot. Anything else I can try???
>
>
--
Mark F...
unMASK for e-mail
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
Crossposted-To: de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc
Subject: Re: suse 6.4 gnome no, kde yes
Date: 28 Apr 2000 06:02:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:20:12 -0400, Randon Loeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
| New installation of suse 6.4. Gnome works fine, at high resolutions and
| different desktop sizes. So do fvwm, fvwm2. But kde dies (screen turns
| black) when started. I am starting them all with startx gnome, startx
| fvwm, startx kde, etc... Any ideas?
|
| Gnome fenstermanager funktioniert perfekt, auch fvwm, fvwm2. Aber kde
| sterbt sofort, also schirm wird schwartz. alles sind mit startx gnome,
| startx fvwm, startx kde. Ideen?
What does the .xsession-errors file say?
Koos Pol
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From: "Jose Luis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux embedded
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:22:50 +0200
Hello,
I've been looking for information about linux embedded. I have read a lot of
paper about some small linux distributions.
I'm interesting in deployment of application over this Operating Systems ...
but I don't believe that over them I would program an application with a
beatiful interface.
I have found a lot of information about this embedded Linux, but I haven't
found information about programming visual applications for it.
I have to program the Linux version of a project. The other version is over
Windows CE ... and in it, you can program in Visual C.
Can I do this over embedded Linux? (Thinlinux, muLinux, DLX o some like
these)
Thanks in advance
Jose Luis
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question on installing linux
Date: 28 Apr 2000 06:42:32 GMT
Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> Phil Mossop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : E:. I am thinking of making E: for Linux and keeping the other two for
:> : Win98. I do not want to totally remove Windows (just yet), but want to be
:> : able to choose which OS to use at startup.
:> Also you may have a practical problem. You will have difficulty booting
:> using the standard boot loader if your partition E: currently starts
:> above cylinder 1023 on the disk, because the bios cannot jump there.
: You *were* correct, but not anymore.
Sigh, haven't we been here before?
: A new LILO, 0.21.4.2 has just been releasded, it supports up to
: 2Tb HD.
And so what? He is installing a distro. Mandrake as I recall (I may be
mistaken). And in any case "so what". There was never any difficulty
in the first place, it being self-inflicted by distros insistance in
using lilo and then in not doing the obvious with regard to image
and map placement.
: ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo/
Peter
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From: Peter Simons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MP3 "walkman" and Linux support
Date: 28 Apr 2000 09:38:43 +0200
>>>>> Christopher Browne writes:
> The only ones available in North America that appear to be
> supported on Linux at this point are the Diamond Rio series.
Thanks a lot for the pointer!
While searching for the software you mentioned I came across a web
page, which I'd like to share with all potentially interested readers:
http://www.world.co.uk/sba/
The site contains management software in source code for the Diamond
Rio and the MPMan mp3 players.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jean-Yves Simon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy format problem.
Date: 28 Apr 2000 07:47:20 GMT
And thanks also from me. In the past, it was never possible to format
a 1.4M floppy on my notebook. I used /deb/fd0h1440 and got the same
errors as Mr Sullivan posted. I read all the books, posted here. The
problem was never solved. Because of this thread, I looked again
and "discovered" that an /dev/fd0u1440 existed. I tried it...
and it worked !!!
Thanks !
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David C. wrote:
: "Charles Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
: >
: > Has anyone successfully formatted a 5.25" double-density 360K floppy
: > diskette on a high-density 1.2 Meg floppy drive under Linux,
: > specifically RedHat 6.0? Or any version of Linux?
: >
: > I use the command:
: > fdformat /dev/fd0d360
: use /dev/fd0h360
: d360 is for 360K drives
: h360 is for 360K disks in 1.2M drives
: man fd(4) for more information.
: -- David
--
Jean-Yves SIMON Tokyo, Japan
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From: Declan Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.mail.sendmail,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Web mail, recommendations for unix ?
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:30:40 +1000
Hi,
I've got redhat linux 6.1 with its sendmail, pop and imap services.
I would like to have a web server on my linux box that provides
access to the system's mail boxes and allows me to send mail.
Here's my wish list:
- Don't need it to provided access to mail boxes on other systems.
- Password entry for the mail boxes to be secure.
- Use port 80 as this is the one port in a firewall
that is likely to be open.
- To be cheap (ie freeware/shareware/gnu).
- To be stable.
- Its web pages to be small so that download is quick, or at
least configurable so that the pages can be made to be small.
There seem to be quite a few existing solutions available for this.
Can you recommend any in particular ?
My linux is running on a slow 486dx100 pc with 32MB ram,
so i've discounted Sebastian Schaffert's excellent sounding "WebMail"
because its implemented with java and I don't think that i'll have the
necessary cpu grunt.
I don't mind using a set of scripts that work with a separate
web server (eg Apache, Apache-SSL) to provide that functionality
I need. But there seem to be lot of these scripts available.
Can you recommend any ?
Many thanks,
Declan.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bastian)
Subject: Re: windows on linux?
Date: 28 Apr 2000 08:38:40 GMT
On 28 Apr 2000 00:26:20 EDT, Dances With Crows wrote:
>>Has anyone developed a PC emu yet, so that Windows can be run from within
>>Linux?
>
>Er, you probably mean "Windows Emulator" unless you're on a {Sparc,
>PowerPC, MIPS, S/390} machine. But try--
>[snip]
vmware is a PC emulator, it can basically run every OS in its box.
Bastian
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From: Harold Bower <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Floppy format problem.
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:47:45 GMT
Charles Sullivan wrote:
>
[snip]
> Uh, oh...perhaps there's more to this than meets the eye. I timed the
> formatting
> of 1.2M and 360K diskettes on the same high-density Teac drive
> (FD55GFR-7193-U)
> under Linux (RH 6.0) and DOS (with Win 98) on a Pentium II - 450 MHz system.
> Linux DOS
> 1.2M 89 s 68 s
> 360K 46 s 33 s
>
> With the factory jumper settings, the drive speed is supposed to be 360 rpm
> for both high and double density. If the tracks on the 360K were written
> two-by-two with the same data to emulate the wide head of a double-density
> drive, one would expect the times to be approximately the same, but it
> looks like only every other track was written. (The shorter times under
> DOS are probably attributable to it verifying each track immediately after
> writing, whereas Linux makes a separate verification pass.)
There are two ways of having 1.2M drives work at the 360K density, but
most newer drives do not include the options for one. The original way
was to actually change the spindle speed; 360 rpm for 1.2MB HD, 300 rpm
for 360/720K densities. That way, the data rates could be held at the
500 kbps for 'HD' and 250 kbps for 'MFM' (or Double-Density). This
complicated bios routines because switching speeds required insertion of
considerable delays normally associated with spinup times. Another
complication introduced with the 3.5" HD format was that the polarity of
the "HD" lead was the opposite between the two. This is well documented
in older National Semiconductor (among other) data sheets. This is NOT
how most clone PCs work.
Most of them now keep the spindle speed at 360 rpm and change the data
rate from 500 kbps for 1.2M HD to 300 kbps for 360/720K densities. If
you work out the math, 300 kbps at 360 rpm is the same bit density as
250 kbps at 300 rpm, so the disks were compatible in this regard. Now a
density change no longer need accomodate the physical delays in changing
motor speed.
> I also checked the jumper settings on my 10 year-old Teac FD55GFR-142-U
> and they are the same factory settings, i.e., double-density speed is
> 360 rpm. This drive is installed on an old 33 MHz 486 system running
> DOS 5.0 and the times for formatting 1.2M and 360K diskettes are
> approximately the same as shown above.
>
> The test diskettes were not bulk erased and the 360K diskette had been
> previously written on a double-density drive.
I believe that you may be confused by thinking that the 360K diskettes
are writted in a 1.2M drive by writing two adjacent tracks with the same
data...they are NOT. In a 1.2M drive, the drive steps twice for each
track increment, writing every other track. If it were not so, your
times for Linux would be more than twice those for DOS. If you sketch a
couple of tracks on a piece of paper, label one on an end as track 0,
and increment numbers for the adjacent 'tracks'. Mark a large swath
around track 0, 2, 4, etc. That would correspond to tracks 0, 1 and 2
on 360K. The narrower tracks will be reliable, but writing narrow and
reading wide (with a 'real' 360k drive) might not if the disk were
previously written with a 'real' 360k.
If you can find some old 720K drives by TEAC, you will find a jumper
that actually forces a double-step the drive. It appears that they used
a common stepper and electronics between 40 and 80 track drives (at
least the ones I had in the mid 80s), and the technology was carried
forward. You can find assembly code for Z80/8080 systems which do the
double-stepping in CP/M archives as part of BIOS code for CP/M.
Hal
> Now I'm more confused than ever.
>
> Regards,
> Charles Sullivan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Koos Pol)
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Subject: Re: APACHE WON'T WORK... PLEASE HELP...
Date: 28 Apr 2000 08:41:44 GMT
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From: "Phil Mossop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux and Windows98 partitions
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:20:58 +1200
Hi,
If have a number of Windows Paritions, and then decided to use on of these
partitions for Linux (and conseqently partitions it further for /usr /etc
etc.), can I read my Linux partitions from my Windows partitions (drives),
and vice versa?
TIA
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: par. IOmega ZIP: wrong major or minor number
Date: 28 Apr 2000 09:32:34 GMT
Hi,
I posted this in another newsgroup before, but got no relevant replies
Hope it will be better here ;-)
I installed a parallel IOmega ZIP drive (100MB)
All but one thing went smoot
When I try to mount it
(fstab line: /dev/sda4 /ZIP vfat noauto,user 0 0)
I get
mount /ZIP
mount: /dev/sda4 has wrong major or minor number
Some Info
l /dev/sda4
brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 4 Mar 11 11:11 /dev/sda4
===================
lsmod
Module Size Used by
parport_probe 3492 0 (autoclean)
parport_pc 7472 1 (autoclean)
ppa 9788 0 (unused)
parport 7464 1 [parport_probe parport_pc ppa]
=====================
cat /proc/scsi/ppa/0
Version : 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x)
Parport : parport0
Mode : SPP
=====================
cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: D.13
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
=================================
grep major-8 /etc/modules.conf
alias block-major-8 sd_mod
should that be: alias block-major-8 ppa ????
BTW
I can do fdisk /dev/sda
I can do mkfs.msdos /dev/sda4
I can do cat /dev/sda or /dev/sda4
Can somebody give me a hint
Thanks
Jacob
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Subject: Re: par. IOmega ZIP: wrong major or minor number
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I think you need to 'insmod imm' - I believe that's the driver for the
iomega embedded scsi adapter. Everything else seems right - delete
that alias lines in modules.conf until you get things working.
In article <8e72ee$6p7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
> Hi,
> Hope this is the appropriate newsgroup
> I installed a parallel IOmega ZIP drive (100MB)
> All but one thing went smoot
>
> When I try to mount it
> (fstab line: /dev/sda4 /ZIP vfat noauto,user 0 0)
> I get
> mount /ZIP
> mount: /dev/sda4 has wrong major or minor number
>
> Some Info
>
> l /dev/sda4
> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 4 Mar 11 11:11 /dev/sda4
>
> -------------------
> lsmod
> Module Size Used by
> parport_probe 3492 0 (autoclean)
> parport_pc 7472 1 (autoclean)
> ppa 9788 0 (unused)
> parport 7464 1 [parport_probe parport_pc ppa]
>
> ---------------------
> cat /proc/scsi/ppa/0
> Version : 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x)
> Parport : parport0
> Mode : SPP
>
> ---------------------
> cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
> Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: D.13
> Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision:
02
>
> ---------------------------------
> grep major-8 /etc/modules.conf
> alias block-major-8 sd_mod
>
> should that be: alias block-major-8 ppa ????
>
> BTW
> I can do fdisk /dev/sda
> I can do mkfs.msdos /dev/sda4
> I can do cat /dev/sda or /dev/sda4
>
> Can somebody give me a hint
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacob
>
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Subject: Re: par. IOmega ZIP: wrong major or minor number
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> Hope this is the appropriate newsgroup
> I installed a parallel IOmega ZIP drive (100MB)
> All but one thing went smoot
>
> When I try to mount it
> (fstab line: /dev/sda4 /ZIP vfat noauto,user 0 0)
> I get
> mount /ZIP
> mount: /dev/sda4 has wrong major or minor number
>
> Some Info
>
> l /dev/sda4
> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 4 Mar 11 11:11 /dev/sda4
>
> -------------------
> lsmod
> Module Size Used by
> parport_probe 3492 0 (autoclean)
> parport_pc 7472 1 (autoclean)
> ppa 9788 0 (unused)
> parport 7464 1 [parport_probe parport_pc ppa]
>
> ---------------------
> cat /proc/scsi/ppa/0
> Version : 2.03 (for Linux 2.2.x)
> Parport : parport0
> Mode : SPP
>
> ---------------------
> cat /proc/scsi/scsi
> Attached devices:
> Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 06 Lun: 00
> Vendor: IOMEGA Model: ZIP 100 Rev: D.13
> Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
>
> ---------------------------------
> grep major-8 /etc/modules.conf
> alias block-major-8 sd_mod
>
> should that be: alias block-major-8 ppa ????
>
> BTW
> I can do fdisk /dev/sda
> I can do mkfs.msdos /dev/sda4
> I can do cat /dev/sda or /dev/sda4
>
> Can somebody give me a hint
>
> Thanks
>
> Jacob
Sometimes I'll get errors like that when I try to mount /dev/sda4, but
if I use /dev/sda the disk mounts fine.
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From: Joseph Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux and Windows98 partitions
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:53:28 GMT
Phil Mossop wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> If have a number of Windows Paritions, and then decided to use on of these
> partitions for Linux (and conseqently partitions it further for /usr /etc
> etc.), can I read my Linux partitions from my Windows partitions (drives),
> and vice versa?
>
> TIA
I think what you are asking is whether you can read Linux partitions
while running Windows, and vice versa. The answer is that you can read
Windows partitions while running Linux, but not the other way around.
This can be done by creating a directory, such as /mnt/win_c_drive or
whatever, and then mounting the proper partition (which will be
/dev/hda0, /dev/hda1, or something similar) under that directory, with
the proper filesystem type. This mounting can be done manually, or at
boot by creating an entry in the file /etc/fstab (read 'man fstab').
After the filesystem has been mounted, it can be accessed by going into
the directory (/mnt/win_c_drive or whatever) and treating it as though
it were any old directory.
Now that I think about it, it seems pretty surprising that no one has
yet written a utility for accessing Linux (ext2) filesystems from under
Windos. Does anyone know, or just have any comment on, whether this is
possible? Or would it be such an ugly kluge that no one has yet
attempted it?
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug Robbins)
Subject: Re: Novell-Linux file transfer help
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:01:18 GMT
On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:04:57 GMT, Christopher Browne
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Doug Robbins would say:
>>This is a little off-topic, but I hope you'll bear with me.
>>
>>The building where I work (housing a number of non-profit groups in a
>>rural northern Canadian town) has a defunct Novell network server. The
>>network was put in place in the early 1990s and operated until the last
>>couple years. I am currently putting in a Linux machine as a server and
>>connecting the various desktop PCs (which run Windows).
>>
>>Here's the problem. The old Novell server has lots of user files on it
>>from a 7-8 year period. Occasionally someone wanders in looking for a
>>file from years back (the place has public-access workstations that
once
>>ran from the server). I'd like to get all the user files off the Novell
>>harddrive and stored on the Linux machine (or burned on a CD...
>>whatever).
>>
>>I don't know *anything* about Novell... though I do have access to the
>>admin login/password. The Novell machine is not connected to the new
>>Linux/Windows network... I suppose it could be but I don't know how. I
>>have physical access to the Novell machine. I could remove the
harddrive
>>and put it in the Linux machine if I could access/mount it there.
>>
>>How would you proceed in a situation like this?
>>
>>Any help sincerely appreciated!
>
>You might consult the FileSystems HOWTO:
><http://metalab.unc.edu/filesystems/howto/Filesystems-HOWTO-9.html>
>
>It _appears_ that there is a Netware filesystem available for the
>Linux kernel; that _might_ allow you to pull the hard drive and mount
>it on Linux.
>
>If the server is pretty old, then you may have a hardware
>compatibility issue.
>
>Easier might be to hook up the Linux box to the Novell machine's
>network.
>
>NCPFS <ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/ncpfs/ncpfs.tgz> is an NDS
>client for Linux.
>
>See also:
><http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/filesystems/ncpfs/!INDEX.html>
Okay. To get the Novell machine on the Linux network I will probably need
to change network settings on one machine or the other -- machine IP
address certainly. It is probably easier for me to temporarily change the
Linux machine. To do so I would need to review the Novell settings. Do
you know of a resource wqhere I might find some basic Novell commands so
I can see what the network settings are?
Thanks for your help.
--
Doug Robbins
http://www.labradorstraits.nf.ca/
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ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
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