Linux-Misc Digest #364, Volume #21               Wed, 11 Aug 99 13:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  LILO and booting problems (Andy Harrison)
  unknown services for inetd after RH6 upgrade (Bernard Legras)
  Re: My Linux box was hacked! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Beginner problem, please help (Coy A Hile)
  Re: My Linux box was hacked! (Robin Smith)
  Re: Tar Limitations (Jon Skeet)
  Re: xterm: "no available ptys" (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
  Re: quick Perl Question (tony summerfelt)
  Re: Anybody use PostgreSQL with Redhat 6.0 ?? (toby)
  Plea for binary texinfo and newbie's tale of woe... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: My Linux box was hacked! (toby)
  Re: Need X-Windows help (resolution size) (Mark Slagell)
  Re: CD-ROM not playing audio CDs (Doug Dahlke)
  Anyone done this ? (citrix winframe) (peter)
  Re: Marx vs. Nozick (Martin R. Green)
  Re: Gateway ISP - no DNS IP's ?!? (Gavin Rogers)
  Re: What format to burn an Install CD? ("Kamau Wanguhu")
  Re: Any Support for PCI Modems? (Alex Flinsch)
  Re: Beginner problem, please help (Norman Levin)

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From: Andy Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LILO and booting problems
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:53:41 -0400

This may have nothing to do with LILO, actually.  I'm trying to fix a
machine and I'm not sure what the problem is.  When booting, the machine
gets to the LILO prompt.  It's not connected to the network at this
point, so I just type "linux single".  It then says "Loading linux" and
that's all she wrote.

Part of the problem was that power was lost.  The other part is that
this was the first time rebooting after upgrading the kernel (via rpm).

I've successfully booted with the rescue image disk, run e2fsck and lilo
-r, to no avail.

His machine is an intel ppro 200, running RH6, upgraded to 2.2.5-22 (or
close to that).

Any suggestions?

--
Andy Harrison
Time Warner Cable of Maine
Road Runner Associate Systems Administrator
ICQ: 1467660

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From: Bernard Legras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: unknown services for inetd after RH6 upgrade
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:30:54 +0200


I have upgraded from RH5.2 with 2.0.36 kernel to RH6.0 with 2.2.5
kernel. Aside a few pbs with NFS now solved, I got inetd refusing
to recognize services like auth, ntalk or linuxconf (message
"unknown service" and names absent in the output of netstat).
My problem is that I am trying to introduce new services
required to run amanda backup and they are refused too.
All this works fine on a machine which has not been
upgraded. I looked in the services and the inetd.conf files
which seem OK. Is there any help around?

Bernard Legras

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:34:35 GMT

On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:16:07 +0200, Rene Grothmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Those who lack the prowess well beyond that of their "normal" (read:
>> "merely competent") peers to create and to innovate have no basis to
>> claim to be hackers.  Your usage of the word is incorrect and performs
>> a disservice to a community to which you should be showing a great
>> deal of veneration.
>> 
>> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/hacker.html
>> 
>> I cannot help but wonder if my words will have any effect on your
>> usage, since the one paragraph I quoted includes at least two
>> additional counts of insufficient English mastery:
>
>Sorry, but English is not my native language. So, what does "prowess"
>mean? I could not find it in my dictionary. And besides, to which
>category of hackers in the cited text are you counting yourself. Maybe
>to the crackers?
>
>I too "cannot help but wonder" what kind of personality would ever want
>to write such a post here.
>
>Rene.
and the beat goes on.... some people should NEVER ...
1.) procreate
2.) Drive
3.) Own a comuter that has a a working on/off switch or delete key.


dbcooper

Friends are what you have, 
Friendship is what you get.

http://members.home.com/dbcooper/

Now dualbooting NT4 and Linux RH6.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Coy A Hile)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Beginner problem, please help
Date: 11 Aug 1999 09:58:22 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Barbara  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Nadeem Riaz wrote:
>Now that I'm running linux I'm in amazement.  If I can only  figure out how to
>print, I'll be able to finally  use my computer.  Thanks, Barbara


Simply read the Printing HOWTO.  Also there is a program called magicfilter
that does print filtering rather well.

Coy
-- 
Coy Hile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Theirs not to reason why; theirs but to do...."
Tennyson, "Charge of the Light Brigade"

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From: Robin Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: 11 Aug 1999 16:30:11 +0100

toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Rene Grothmann wrote:
> 
> > So, what does "prowess"
> > mean? I could not find it in my dictionary.
> >
> >
> > Rene.
> 
> Main Entry: prow�ess
> Pronunciation: 'prau-&s also 'prO-
> Function: noun
> Etymology: Middle English prouesse, from Old French proesse, from prou
> Date: 13th century
> 1 : distinguished bravery; especially : military valor and skill
> 2 : extraordinary ability <his prowess on the football field>
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Toby

You do learn some strange things here

Robin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: Tar Limitations
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:26:16 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We are having a few problems using tar with large volumes of data. For one,
> we can't create an archive with more than 2147483648 bytes in it
> (suspicously looking like a signed int problem). For two, when trying to
> read large archives (7 Gig +) from a third party we get erratic behavior,
> with tar skipping headers and throwing garbage on the screen (suspicously
> looking like overflow or pointer issues).
> 
> We are using Red Hat 6.0. Are there known limitations to tar? Can it only
> handle 2 gig archives? How many items can be in an archive?
> 
> This is NOT a disk space problem (unless perhaps in /tmp or /var) as the
> filesystems typically have 10 to 15 GB of free space.

What architecture are you running on? AFAIK, i386 Linux will not handle 
files with sizes > 2Gb, as it runs out of address space for memory mapped 
I/O. I believe there is *some* way of doing it, but you'll need to 
recompile things (including tar) - and I'm afraid I don't have any 
references for it. If you're on Alpha (or another 64 bit architecture) 
then you may have found a bug in tar.

Have you considered using tar -M for multiple volume support? I'm not 
sure exactly how it works, but you may want to have a play with it.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J.H.M. Dassen (Ray))
Subject: Re: xterm: "no available ptys"
Date: 11 Aug 1999 13:49:48 GMT

Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I finally cleanly installed RH 6.0 after getting tired of trying to morph
>5.1 any further :-) Alas, in X I can't get an xterm. Upon leaving X, I can
>see the message:
>
>"xterm: no available ptys"
>
>Anyone know how to fix this?

RH 6.0 is glibc2.1 based. The combination of glibc2.1 and kernel 2.2.x
supports Unix98 ptys. It may be a matter of
- upgrading your xterm package to one that uses Unix98 ptys
- upgrading your kernel to a 2.2.x one
- recompiling your kernel to enable Unix98 pty support
- creating /dev/ptmx and ensuring you have a proper entry for /dev/pts in
  your /etc/fstab.

It's difficult to tell.

HTH,
Ray
-- 
PATRIOTISM  A great British writer once said that if he had to choose 
between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would
have the decency to betray his country.                                      
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tony summerfelt)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera
Subject: Re: quick Perl Question
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 15:53:11 GMT

On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:42:05 -0400, Matthew D. Melbert wrote:

> I have looked in about EVERY O'Reilly book out there 

you must have missed o'reilly's `perl cookbook', there's a recipe in there
for what you want

> if there is a PERL function that convers an integer (decimal) value to a
> Hex value.  I would appreciate any help.

check out the printf function...

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From: toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anybody use PostgreSQL with Redhat 6.0 ??
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:30:09 -0400



Glen Brittle wrote:

>
>
>  HELP ... I am not sure what to do next.
>
>  Glen Brittle
>
>

unless you must use PostgreSQL, go to http://www.mysql.com and get MySQL.
Cleaner, nicer and easier and doesn't act like a Microshaft product on
start/stop.

Toby


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Plea for binary texinfo and newbie's tale of woe...
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:29:59 GMT

Hi,

I was wondering if somebody could do me a big favour and e-mail me or
let me know where I can get a binary of the latest texinfo for an i586
Linux machine running RedHat 5.2 with kernel 2.2.10.

Here's my tale of woe to explain it all... (of course, if you know of a
better way of proceding PLEASE let me know!)

I'm currently away from home in a villa in Spain for the month, but I
have brought my laptop with me because I thought I would have a go at
learning Linux (I'm a Linux newbie but have lots of experience with
other operating systems like OS/2).  The machine in question is a Sony
Vaio 505TS but without a CD drive, so I installed RedHat 5.2 from a
parallel port CD before I left (I don't have the drive with me).  I do,
though, have another laptop running Win98 with a built-in CD and a
network, so I can copy over things from the CD and I suppose I could
try a network re-install if I really had to, but I don't want to
because I've already had lots of fun installed KDE, new Netscape etc.
while getting to know my way around the OS.

I'm interested in developing and running Java servlets under Linux;
however, RH5.2 comes with an old version of Kaffe which does not seem
to work entirely properly with some things and is slow.  The problems
are that I can NEVER connected to my mSQL server using the JDBC driver
(always an SQLException) and that compiling JServ fails miserably,
telling me it can't find all sorts of classes which are obviously
there.  Also, I noticed some irregularities when I was writing my own
code: for some reason, it seemed to think that if, in a method that was
supposed to return a java.lang.String, I said 'return buf.toString();'
where buf is a StringBuffer I was returning an invalid type: I had to
say 'String s = buf.toString(); return s'.  Weird.  I don't know how
many of these problems are Kaffe's fault but I decided I would move to
IBM's alpha 1.1.6 anyway (I've had good experience with IBM JDKs) and
then see how many went away.  (Again, if you know what these problems
are caused by, please tell me!)

That's where the trouble started - it wanted a 2.2.* kernel and 5.2
only came with 2.0.35, so, I went and downloaded the source and
compiled myself a nice new kernel, 2.2.10.  Everything seemed to work -
except my PCMCIA D-Link 650 Ethernet card, which didn't work at all.  I
tracked this down to not having an up-to-date enough version of pcmcia-
cs, so, I went and downloaded and installed the latest release, and
that worked fine.  The card still didn't work, though: at startup it
said something like:

cardmgr: cannot locate module net-pf4
cardmgr: cannot locate module net-pf5
cardmgr: cannot locate module net-pf4
cardmgr: cannot locate module net-pf5
cardmgr: cannot locate module net-pf4

and pings etc. didn't work but, if I just start linuxconf and quit, it
all seems to be OK.  I haven't got around to finding out why - does
anyone know, btw?

Anyway, so, the next thing this JDK wanted was glibc 2.1 so off I went
to the ftp server and got it and tried to install it.  However, the
configure program stopped and said I only had gcc 2.75.3 or something
and that I needed a newer C compiler, so I went to a GNU ftp mirror and
got gcc 2.95 and tried to install that.  It seemed to be OK, so I tried
glibc again.  It still said I had gcc 2.75.3!  I realised this was
because I had the old one installed in /bin and the new one
in /usr/bin, and /bin was first in the path.  I copied the new one on
top of the old and tried again.  No joy, it now said that I had gcc
2.95 and that was no good, despite the INSTALL saying it was fine.  I
delved into the configure script and found the reason - it said it was
only OK if gcc version was 2.9[1-9].*  Changing this to 2.9[1-9]* fixed
the problem - is this a bug?  My version would work if you had 2.95.x
too, but their one doesn't work unless you have two decimal places...
Can someone explain this?

After fiddling with this, I finally managed to do a configure and a
make.  When I tried a make install, however, it died on me again,
trying to install the manuals.  'Unnecessary arguments', Error 1, Error
2 etc.  I checked the INSTALL again (the moral of this story is, RTFM,
but I didn't know what versions of things I had...) and it told me I
needed a new version of texinfo.  It turns out I don't seem to have it
installed at all, despite telling the RedHat setup program to install
everything.  So, off I went to my local GNU ftp mirror and I downloaded
the texinfo source.  I ran the configure and... it broke.  Error: your
C compiler cannot compile executables.

So now I'm stumped.  I suspect this is because I've got halfway through
the installation of new C libraries, which might have messed up what
was already there.  I can't go on without getting texinfo installed,
and I can't compile that from source.  (I suppose it might be possible
to hack the glibc install scripts to just skip all the documentation
stuff - I don't need it - but I don't know how: if someone could point
me in the right direction that would be great).  I searched on
Freshmeat etc. for a binary distribution of texinfo but I could only
find it as part of tetex which is at least a 15MB download.  The lines
here in Spain are slow and expensive, so I'd like to avoid that if I
can.  So, my plea: could somebody please send me a binary texinfo for
linux-i586 or advise me of a another, better way to proceed?

Thanks VERY much,


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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From: toby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.security.unix,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: My Linux box was hacked!
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:42:02 -0400



Rene Grothmann wrote:

> So, what does "prowess"
> mean? I could not find it in my dictionary.
>
>
> Rene.

Main Entry: prow�ess
Pronunciation: 'prau-&s also 'prO-
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English prouesse, from Old French proesse, from prou
Date: 13th century
1 : distinguished bravery; especially : military valor and skill
2 : extraordinary ability <his prowess on the football field>

HTH,

Toby


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From: Mark Slagell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need X-Windows help (resolution size)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:38:47 -0500

Another thing to try: use a more conservative refresh rate than your monitor's
specs indicate.  My old HP D1187A is supposed to be capable of 100hz vertical
refresh.  Problem is,that's not a constant.  At 640x480 it can refresh at
100hz, but at 1280x1024 the best it can do is 60hz.  When I lowered the
vertical refresh line in the config file from 50-100 down to 50-70, I was able
to get higher resolutions.  Later tweaked it out just a little to 1312x1048,
which is within spec.

(One other thing: I'm not sure of this, so somebody correct me if I'm wrong,
but I don't think you can change color depth within an X session.  If you start
up in 32 bit 640x480 and you don't have the vid memory to go higher in 32 bpp,
I think you're stuck at that resolution however insistently you hit
<ctrl>-<alt>-<+>.  So maybe it's best to stick with 8bpp until you've got
resolution sorted out, then see what happens with the other depths.)


"Patrick M. Geahan" wrote:

> Jason Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Well, I've had about 4days of experience after installing LINUX on my P300
> : at home (now a dual boot w/ Win98)
> : I've put about four hours into just trying to get X-Windows working. We're
> : talking about Redhat 6.0 and Gnome/KDE
>
> : 8bit 1024X768    24bit-800x600        32bit 640x480
>
> IIRC, X-Windows always starts with the lowest resolution when you specify
> more then one.  If you're only gonna use one, only specify that one.
> Hwever, you can change resolutions on the fly.  I believe the key
> combination is "ctrl-alt-+", which should change your 32-bit 640x480 to
> 24bit 800x600.  Hope this helps.  Let me know if I can help you anymore.
>
> --
>
> -------Patrick M [EMAIL PROTECTED]:3784715----------
> USENET Quote of the Week:  "who makes the best Linux?  Microsoft?" - JY on
> comp.os.linux.misc


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From: Doug Dahlke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-ROM not playing audio CDs
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 07:45:37 -0700

Matt Garman wrote:

> The CD-ROM in my computer recently refuses to play audio CDs through
> the soundcard.  This CD-ROM reads data CDs correctly, i.e. it is
> completely fine with regards to data CDs.  When I try to play an audio
> CD, though, it doesn't come through the soundcard.  I can plug
> headphones into the CD-ROM itself and hear the audio CD being played.
> I have a cable that I bought a while back that connects the CD-ROM to
> the soundcard.  Playing audio CDs through the CD-ROM used to work
> fine, but now just doesn't.  It doesn't work under Windows, either, so
> I'm pretty sure it's not a software problem.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas as to what could be causing this?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
> --
> Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "And through the window in the wall
>  Come streaming in on sunlight wings
>  A million bright ambassadors of morning."
>         --Pink Floyd, "Echoes"

Interesting that I should see this post.  I too found a problem playing
audio cds.  My solution was this:  I'm impressed with the kde desktop and
after fooling around with various tools, I found that the sound mixer had
the capability of switching 'input' sources.  Once I right clicked on the
CD input, my audio player started to work.  You all may want to check
this before ripping apart your machine looking for cables.  I just
stumbled on it by accident as well as the midi output causes noise on my
128PCI card.  Just some things to look at.

Doug Dahlke
Shields Bag & Printing


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From: peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone done this ? (citrix winframe)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:50:20 +0200

A customer has about 2000 computers in their netowork.
Many are old 486 and P60.
They have made the decision (sp?) to use Office2000.
That would mean that they would have to buy a lot of new computers,
someone came up with the idea to use citrix winframe.
Still they were uphappy, bacause the cost of all win95 licenses.
I saw my window of upportuney (sp?) and talked a bit about linux.
There is a citrix client.
Now, has anyone automated the insallation process ?
There are about 15 different types of machines.
I was thinking about using NFS, but the partitioning and all
have to be automatic, anyway anyone heard of a company done
something like this ?
Would need some references to help me fight the opposttion.
Be well.
//Peter Hellman


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin R. Green)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Marx vs. Nozick
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:45:58 GMT

On Wed, 11 Aug 1999 08:24:18 GMT, Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>>> 3) five year plans
>
>> There is something wrong with this? I have a 5 year plan for my own
>> life.
>
>The wrong part is the idea that you can have a plan economy on a large 
>scale, i.e. replacing the market forces with detailed control from
>above.  What this leads to [SNIP]

Oh, you didn't specify a five year plan for the *economy*, although I
should have inferred this I guess, since we were talking about the
communists. As a confirmed right-wing, lassez-faire true believer, I
of course detest government interference in the economy.

Then again, a 5 year plan for government to extricate itself from our
daily lives, including the economy, would be a good thing.


CIAO


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From: Gavin Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gateway ISP - no DNS IP's ?!?
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 00:11:50 +0800

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Gateway.net says they "no longer use" DNS IP addresses.
> I hardly think this is true.

You'd be correct... DNS is a backbone service on the internet (unless you're 
good at remebering numbers)

I'd be wanting a new ISP with technical support who know what they are 
talking about, IMHO.


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                        ICQ: 17230395

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From: "Kamau Wanguhu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: What format to burn an Install CD?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:17:37 -0400
Reply-To: "Kamau Wanguhu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

If you are still having problems get the ISO Redhat disk image from:
ftp://gatekeeper.dec.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-6.0.iso

and burn it to your CD.

---
Kamau Wanguhu
BORGcube Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1.617.629.2674

John Hawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7oc1ml$l86$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> Say, I've downloaded the RedHat 6.0 distribution tree and would like to
put
> it onto a CD for installs.  I've successfully burned a CD,  but can't get
> the install process to work.




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From: Alex Flinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Any Support for PCI Modems?
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:12:15 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Nicholas Pappas wrote:

>
>         Why?  (1) Because you have all the lights to tell you exactly what is
> happening in your connection and (2) THEY ARE NOT WINMODEMS! (I don't think
> it is possible to make an external WinModem).

I saw an external modem at compusa the other day and it specifically stated "Windows
Version" on the outside of the box, but I don't know if that means that it is a
"winmodem" or that it came with some Windows software. There was also a box marked
"Macintosh Version" on the shelf next to it.

I do agree with the status lights however. Another good reason is that it frees up a
slot inside of your system, and allows you to use that second serial port on the back
of the box.


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Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 09:45:23 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Beginner problem, please help

First rule:
don't do anything approximating system administration after 8pm.
  - you are tired, even punchy and will only make stupid mistakes.
  - I have never made a smart mistake.
-- 
Norman Levin
vm/dynAmIX inc.

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