Linux-Misc Digest #472, Volume #21               Fri, 20 Aug 99 03:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Help with xcdroast (Aaron Ginn)
  Re: Having a problem loggin in, need help (John McKown)
  Re: xntpd: recvfrom() fd=13: Connection refused (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: Need Help With Library Problems (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: MntCD-Rom? (Aaron Ginn)
  Re: Accessing Linux from NT (Doug DeJulio)
  Re: *nix vs. MS security ("Scott MacDonald")
  Re: accessing windows files under linux (notbob)
  Re: Announce: CaclMgr -- a better setuid mechanism ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: setting timezone ? (Paul Kimoto)
  Re: No core file ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  KPP - NO CARRIER Error message ("Steve Bond")
  Re: Having a problem loggin in, need help (key)
  module problems with SMP kernel (James Bradley)
  Boot crashes at module dependancies. ("Edward C.")
  no response from external usr/3com sportster (Pas Moi)
  Basic compiler (Matt Templeton)
  Re: Linux vs. Unix (Floyd Davidson)

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From: Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with xcdroast
Date: 19 Aug 1999 14:59:39 -0700

Mark Presley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have been trying to get CD burning software running on my RedHat 6.0
> box.  I have compiled and installed XCDRoast without any problems.  My
> burner is an ATAPI BTC 2x6x2.  I only run IDE drives.  I have looked at
> many documents and have seen references to disabling Generic IDE Support
> and Enabling SCSI Host emulation.  Sometimes documents say I can use
> SCSI host emulation and leave Generic IDE Support other statements
> conflict with that.
> 
> I have at this point entered a line in linux.conf of...
> 
> hdc=ide-scsi
> 
> My original problem remained unchanged.  The software works fine but it
> does not see my writer as a writer it sees at as a reader.
> 
> I should mention that when I installed linux did not add the writer to
> fstab automagically. I added the line to fstab of...
> 
> /dev/hdc    /mnt/cdrw    iso9660 noauto   0,0
> 
> I appreciate any feedback...
> 
> -Mark


Hi Mark,

Here's what I did to get my IDE CD-RW working.  First you need to set up
SCSI emulation in the kernel.  Specifically, you need to enable the
following:

1) Generic SCSI support
2) SCSI emulation
3) SCSI CD-ROM support

Also, I disabled IDE CD-ROM support in my kernel, so both of my CD drives
are recognized as SCSI devices.  I built these directly into the kernel,
not as modules.

I suggest you try to get the drive working using the command-line and
cdrecord first.  Xcdroast is a nice GUI, but cdrecord is what does the 
work.  Once you have rebuilt the kernel, your CD-RW will probably be
called /dev/scd0, so you may need to change some of your links accordingly.

Read the CD-Writing HOWTO.  It has a lot of good information, and is one
of the clearer HOWTOs, IMO.  If you have questions, feel free to email me
directly.

Good luck,
Aaron

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Subject: Re: Having a problem loggin in, need help
Date: 20 Aug 1999 05:36:50 GMT

On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:17:54 +0100, Advanced one corporation 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm having a problem loggin in. After I have logged in to my localhost by
>typing in root and then my password, this message appears:
>[root@localhost /root#
>
>What does this message mean and what do I type.
>Help is appreciated.
>Thanks
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>

Not meaning to be tacky, but I really think you could use a book on UNIX!
That is what is normally called a "shell prompt" (at least by me). What
it means is: "Ready, please enter a command". Similiar to the "DOS prompt"
on a pre-Windows Microsoft system. What the parts mean: The first "root"
is the userid that you logged in under (i.e. root). The "@localhost"
is the host name of your system (localhost). "localhost" is the default
name, at least under RedHat. I'm fairly sure that the "/root" is
the current directory.

At this point, you enter UNIX commands. If you want to change to another
directory (for instance, /etc), then you can enter the command:

cd /etc

I'd bet your prompt would then change to:

[root@localhost] /etc#

Basically, at this point you're ready to do "whatever". 

John

p.s. my email address is bogus. I'm working on fixing it, but I'm just too
lazy right now. Plus, not having my true email address in these messages
tends to reduce my inbox clutter. <grin>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: xntpd: recvfrom() fd=13: Connection refused
Date: 20 Aug 1999 01:37:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <7piktt$2qp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Aug 20 00:03:03 dad xntpd[5452]: recvfrom() fd=13: Connection refused
>
>   I have checked the man pages and the documentation which
> came with xntpd.  Any idea what this is telling me

I think this may indicate that (one of) your NTP server's 
(or peer's) NTP daemon is not running.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: Need Help With Library Problems
Date: 20 Aug 1999 01:42:57 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roy A. McCoy wrote:
> When I  tried to configure a program (knewmail-3.1-1.i386.rpm) that I had just
> downloaded, at the bottom of the screen I get an error message indicating that
> the program needs libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2, libm.so.6 (GLIBC_2.1), and libc.so.6
> (GLIBC-2.0).  I checked  /usr/lib and none of the files are located there but
> the last two files are located in /lib.  Doesn't the system know the files are
> there?  If not, how do I let it know?  I'm using Red Hat 5.2.

The error messages seem to be coming from the package-management system.

RH 5.2 is a glibc-2.0 system; RH 6 is a glibc-2.1 system.  Moreover,
(I believe that) symbols like GLIBC_2.0 are found in glibc-2.1
libraries.  I think that your program needs glibc-2.1 to run.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MntCD-Rom?
Date: 19 Aug 1999 15:03:59 -0700

Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I�m pretty lame and nwe with Linux so sorry for the lamer quastion.
> Why can only the "root" mnt a CD-Rom or a Floppy? Can I do a user that
> almost can do the same as the root but still be safe? Last Q: My Gimp
> cant find the fonts that some scripts need, where can i find this fonts
> and where to put them so gimp can use them??
> Found that i dont miss Windows and that the surfing is faster and i
> don�t got any hangs or bugs, and i�m realy Linux happy now.
> 
> /Jim Engstrom
> 
> P.S Sorry for the bad spelling D.S


Here's a portion of my /etc/fstab file:

/dev/cdrom              /mnt/cdrom              iso9660 user,noauto,ro  0 0
/dev/cdrw               /mnt/cdrw               iso9660 user,noauto,ro  0 0

Note the the user entry above.  This allows any user to mount these
drives.  Add this to your /etc/fstab and the next time you reboot, 
you should be able to mount/umount as a regular user.

HTH,
Aaron

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio)
Subject: Re: Accessing Linux from NT
Date: 18 Aug 1999 14:08:31 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Neil Walters  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know of any software to access the Linux filesystem from
> within Windows NT?

Run "Samba" on the Linux box, and the NT box can access it over the network.

> Also is there any software to make the NT command prompt more 'Linux
> User Friendly' i.e. the ls command and the use of the Tab key?

Install the "cygwin" stuff, available from Cygnus's web site.  It
brings a full "bash" shell and suite of Unix tools to NT.
-- 
Doug DeJulio      | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HKS, Incorporated | http://www.hks.net/~ddj/

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From: "Scott MacDonald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: *nix vs. MS security
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:52:07 -0300

All OS's have security holes.  Unix and such flavors by far are more secure
and stable.  Just because you can see the code doesn't mean it is easier to
circumvent security.  If I was you I would stand up and call your instructor
a dolt, then find a better school.  If he asks you why you think Unix is
better you could wow him with the technical reasons (which I won't go into
because your instructor probably wouldn't understand them anyway) or you
could simply shut him up by asking him why the majority of Banks (I know
many banks run on OS/2, please don't flame me for it),
Universities/Colleges, "big businesses", etc., hell even many of Microsoft
servers run on Unix flavors and see what his response is.


Raphael Mankin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7pgcuk$1n3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc Christopher Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : I'm taking a class on operating systems.  During the last class, the
> : instructor mentioned that *nices are less reliable and less secure than
> : Microsoft OS's.  His reasoning is that because *nices (espeically linux)
is
> : free and everyone has access to it, it's less secure.  Random people can
> : hack into a *nix system easier because they can figure out the
interrupts
> : and stuff, since it's a free OS.
>
> I suggest you find yourself a better informed instructor.
>
> So far as this ng is concerned, you have just started a flame war.
>
> --
>                Politics: The conduct of public affairs for private
advantage
>                         Ambrose Bierce
> Raphael Mankin
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ----------------------------------



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From: notbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.mandrake,athome.users-unix,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: accessing windows files under linux
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:11:03 GMT

I assume you have not purchased a complete RH boxed package.  These RH
box sets include an excellent beginners manual, The Complete RedHat
Linux Installation Guide.  It provides extensive coverage of
partitioning.  It also has a sixty page appendix giving a thumbnail
description of each package.  I have seen this installation guide sold
seperately at Borders and some computer bookstores. 

enjoy =D
nb





Christopher Lu wrote:

> 2) Can someone offer some advice on the 539680446 gazillion packages
> available when doing a custom installation in redhat or mandrake?  I know
> it's impossible to cover every one but most of that stuff I have no idea
> what it's used for.
> 
> 3) Any suggestions on the number of and size of partitions to create when
> installing linux on a single user desktop?  Have 3.2 gigs available.
> 
> Thanks in advance!!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.solaris,comp.unix.shell,comp.unix.sco.misc
Subject: Re: Announce: CaclMgr -- a better setuid mechanism
Date: 19 Aug 1999 22:56:46 -0700

Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I'm proud to announce CaclMgr version 2.4. For evalutaion purpose, it
> can be
> freely downloaded from
>  http://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/commercial
[snip]
> CaclMgr has versions for SUN Solaris 2.x/Sparc, IBM AIX 4.x, SCO
> OpenServer
> 5.x, Linux X86/2.2.x and HP-UX 10.x.
[snip]

I don't care *what* features you have or claim to have.  as long as
only you can see the source code, I'm not interested.  I trust *any*
program that's been audited by hundreds of independent programmers
more than *any* program only one company can audit.  especially one
that is security critical.  this has nothing to do with price.  it has
to do with freedom and security.

andru
ps why did you use cpio rather than tar?  why did you use absolute
pathnames?
-- 
========================================================================== 
| Andru Luvisi                 | http://libweb.sonoma.edu/               |
| Programmer/Analyst           |   Library Resources Online              | 
| Ruben Salazar Library        |-----------------------------------------| 
| Sonoma State University      | http://www.belleprovence.com/           |
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]      |   Textile imports from Provence, France |
==========================================================================

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: setting timezone ?
Date: 20 Aug 1999 01:39:27 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dja7 wrote:
> I have two linux machines, redhat 2.0.36 and slackware 2.0.30
>
> How do I set the timezone on them ?    Do I have to reconfigure the
> kernel to do that ?

No.  The timezone is set via the file /etc/localtime.  Valid contents
for this file can be found within the /usr/share/zoneinfo (or
/usr/lib/zoneinfo, on really old systems) directory.  You can make
a symbolic link from /etc/localtime to the appropriate zoneinfo file.

On libc6 systems, the "tzconfig" program can help you find the right
file for your area.

-- 
Paul Kimoto             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: No core file
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 05:37:47 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  nightstalker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kyle Jamieson wrote:
>
> > I am trying to generate a core file when my program crashes, with no
> > luck.  I have typed unlimit in the shell, yet when my program seg
> > faults, I get no core file anywhere.  Is there another way of
> > controlling whether a core file is generated
>
> try abort(); (defined in stdlib.h)

Perhaps he didn't make ulimit large enough?
ulimit -c 500000

Seems to work on all the programs I've developed :)

-Godfrey Degamo,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "Steve Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: KPP - NO CARRIER Error message
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 22:39:46 -0700
Reply-To: "Steve Bond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm running red hat 5.2 and KDE 1.1 and I've got KPP set up
to redial every time my internet connection is interrupted.
The problem is that when KPP gives a NO CARRIER
message, KPP fails to continue and redial and just hangs.
Does anyone out there know of a way to allow KPP to continue
and redial once it hits this error?  Thanks much in advance,

  Jason



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From: key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Having a problem loggin in, need help
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:29:19 +0800

Advanced one corporation wrote:

> I'm having a problem loggin in. After I have logged in to my localhost by
> typing in root and then my password, this message appears:
> [root@localhost /root#
>
> What does this message mean and what do I type.
> Help is appreciated.
> Thanks
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

So you are really newbie to linux. For short, try enter "startx" without the
quotes after you get that prompt (that 'MESSAGE' you've written above) after
you login.


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From: James Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: module problems with SMP kernel
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 02:14:02 -0400

Greetings,

I just installed a dual-Celeron board (which is working fine), and Linux
comes up, sees both procs... all seems to be well, EXCEPT: whenever a
module loads, I get errors like this:

modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
__global_cli
modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
__global_save_flags
modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
__global_restore_flags
modprobe: /lib/modules/2.2.10/misc/sound.o: unresolved symbol
__global_sti

This happens for any module, not just sound.  I thought I did everything
right:
0) read Documentation/smp.txt
1) did "make xconfig" and enabled SMP
2) make dep; make clean
3) make bzImage; make install
4) rm -rf /lib/modules/2.2.10
5) make modules; make modules_install
6) reboot

I'm on a RH6 system, using the egcs compiler (is this one of those "you
need gcc 2.7.2" issues?).  The UP kernel works just fine (except, of
course, I only get one processor).  Any ideas what's going on??

Thanks,
James



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From: "Edward C." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Boot crashes at module dependancies.
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 15:45:37 +1000

I've just recompiled my kernel (2.2.5) on my RedHat6.0 system for the first
time.  When it's booting up, it get's stuck at "Finding module dependancies"
after a little disk-reading.  I did 'make modules' and 'make
modules_install' when recompiling, and also 'depmod -a'.
Does anyone know what the problem might be?



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: no response from external usr/3com sportster
From: Pas Moi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 19:05:47 GMT


i'm having trouble getting a response from a usr/3com sportster
external modem.  i've fed setserial a bunch of different irq's, tried
the various /dev/ttyS* and cua*, but i've yet to get as much as an
"OK" from this thing.  no matter what i do, it just sits there.  any
suggestions?

-- 
Guy Yasko -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [remove noise]

Is this the line for the latest whimsical YUGOSLAVIAN drama which also
makes you want to CRY and reconsider the VIETNAM WAR?

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From: Matt Templeton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Basic compiler
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 06:53:15 +0000

Don't shoot me for asking but, does anyone know of a compiler that will
compile visual basic code on a Linux box?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux vs. Unix
Date: 20 Aug 1999 05:33:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Christopher Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>James Knott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Floyd Davidson) wrote:
>>>>Vilmos Soti  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>Chris wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is this the same Barrow, Alsaka that's the Northernmost city in
>>>>>> America?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>No. Barrow (which is the northermost city in the US) is not the
>>>>>one in America. That would go to Alert, Canada, (if we can call
>>>>>these cities...) which is way north of the (magnetic) north
>>>>>pole.
>>>>
>>>>Alert, Canada???  I've never heard of it!
>>>
>>>It's a radar base at the most northern tip of Canada, and about as far
>>>north as you can get anywhere in the world and still have solid land 
>>>under your feet.  There's only a very small bit of land further north 
>>>than it anywhere.  Take a look at a globe sometime and you'll find it 
>>>right beside the north end of Greenland, about 500 miles south of the 
>>>north pole.
>>
>>Radar sites (i.e., LRR, SRR, BMEWS and DEWLINE) are something I
>>am very familiar with, but I still have never heard of this city
>>called Alert, Canada.
>
>It's got the international station code YLT on SABRE.  
>
>There do not exist scheduled flights to that station; it is
>nonetheless a well-known CF base of operations.

You've still missed the only significant point:  it is NOT
a city.  (Just for fun, the only remote radar sight in the
Arctic which might qualify as a "city", is the Tin City
LRR site, which sits right on the Bering Straits.)

  Floyd


-- 
Floyd L. Davidson                                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)                       [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pictures of the North Slope at  <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>

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