Linux-Misc Digest #481, Volume #21               Fri, 20 Aug 99 21:13:10 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Accessing windows 98 files from Linux ? ("Richard Hudson")
  Re: RealTek8019 PnP Lan adapter ("Jo.Oswald")
  Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Brad BARCLAY)
  Re: Dual boot (upgrade to Win98) (Turpin Rob)
  Re: MntCD-Rom? (William Burkett)
  Re: Is there a way to mount a samba share as a directory? ("Phil")
  3com ISA cards and linux ("Kalkas")
  Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
  Re: Compaq Prosignia 200 and RedHat 5.2 ("John Roe")
  Re: Lisp OSes (was: Re: Troll (was: why not C++?)) ("Noah Roberts (jik-)")
  Re: 3com ISA cards and linux ("Caitanya")
  Re: Problems compiling 2.2.11 kernel (kernel upgrade fro 2.0.36) (Mathieu 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Clert=E9?=)
  passwd sucks, how do I get around it? (Jeff Greer)
  Re: 3com ISA cards and linux (Toni Grass)
  sound for users (Marco Jost)

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From: "Richard Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Accessing windows 98 files from Linux ?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 10:30:10 +0800

Thanks for your full reply Leonard.

I am using http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~steveh/inspiron/
as a basis to get X windows up, but due in part to my
lack of Linux experience it is taking a little longer than
I hoped. But the Steve Hsieh details do seem extemely
thorough.

Richard

Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Richard Hudson wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >  I have a Dell Inspiron 7K laptop with Rage LT pro card,
> >  and  am working through getting  X to work.
>
> I don't know if you found them but there are several web pages
> devoted to how to configure the Inspiron for X.  Try dejanews
> We did it with RH6.0, but we found we had to downgrade the BIOS to
> get it to work.  This was explained on one of the web pages.
>
> >  I am relatively new to the Linux field and have Redhat 5.2. Also on the
PC
> > I have Win 98 and Win NT ( I know, I know boo hiss).
> >
> >  One of my problems is that until I get RH 5.2  X and packages working
> >  comfortably I am having to using Win 98 to surf and get down loads from
the
> > net.
> >  I have found the excellant explore2fs but wondered if there was a
> >  program that went the other way so I could either copy files off a
> >  windows floppy onto linux, run a windows app that will copy both ways
> >  or run a linux app that could drap stuff from windows.
> >
> >  Any perls (sic) of wisdom would be much appreciated.
> >
> >  Richard Hudson
> The simplest thing to do is to mount your Windows file system
> under Linux---assuming you have a Windows partition on the
> machine.   For example, on my machine, I have the line
>
> /dev/hda1         /win          vfat    defaults       1      2
>
> in my /etc/fstab file.  (I also created a directory /win
> in my Linux file system).  Then as root I can copy files
> in either direction.  As any user I can read or cp Windows
> files from Linux.  Make sure you reboot after changing fstab.
> If you are not sure what you are doing, make a copy of the
> file first, and be very careful about editing it.  You can
> also change it using linuxconf, and that may be more foolproof.
>
> Generally you can copy to and from floppies using the Linux
> package mtools.  See the man page.  For text files, either using
> mtools or copy directly from a Windows partition, you always
> have to worry about the fact that DOS/Windows files terminate
> each line with a CR/LF (\r\n for Linux) and Linux text files
> terminate each line with just a LF (\n, called a newline).
> There are various short utilities for converting back and
> forth.  Try dejanews again.   With mtools you use the -t
> option.
>
> One you have X and gnome working, you can arrange with linuxconf
> to make your floppy mountable by any user.  If you create a
> symbolic link in .gnome-desktop to /mtn/floppy, then you will
> get an icon on your desktop for the floppy.  If a floppy disk
> is in the drive, just double clicking on the icon will mount
> the disk and open a file manager.  Then you can copy back and
> forth by dragging and dropping.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208




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From: "Jo.Oswald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: RealTek8019 PnP Lan adapter
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 23:55:08 GMT

Ok. let me see ( right now my Window to the world is Windows...:)

Start:-) -> Programme -> MSDos-box

Or did really eliminate MS-Dos on you machine....:-) just curious...

In any case if you can'd do it this way, go into the BIOS and change the
setting for that particular IRQ to non-pnp, then you need to install a
non-pnp driver under WindowXX for your Nic.

The problem still remains that you need to turn off PnP on your Card....
Maybe the Dos-Emulator could really help you...

the funny thing is this the kernel 2.2.11 has already pnp support in it as
well.

I guess I'm not much of a help for you..:-((

josef Oswald    [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Frederik Likaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I want to set up a network but my problems starts with getting my network
> card running.From Windoze i have a "RealTek8019 PnP Lan with Input/output
> 0220-023F and IRQ 05.After downloaded from realtek's home page th
linux.txt
> i use it as a guide to set up my network card.So i do the
> following:1-Recompile the kernel  by make xconfig from /usr/src/linux with
> the options (*)enable module support,(*)networking support,(*)TCP/IP
> networking,(*)network device support,(*)ethernet and (*)ne2000/ne1000.So i
> try to boot with the new kernel (from floppy disc with bzImage on it)after
> running "make dep" and "make clean".How should i know if the driver is
> loaded or not.(with (*) for Y and not as "M" for modules it should be a
> part of the new kernel right?)Anyway when i try to set up an ethernet
> device eth0 from usernet (i am sure i do it the right way)it does'nt get
to
> work (the green light never comes).As a p.s from the linux.txt "in some
> case,PNPISA may assign to port not in thr range you can use 'rset8019' (in
> DOS) to set the card in jumpless mode and set ioaddr to one of these
> ioport.Do i have to do it and if yes how do i do it?I do not have DOS
> installed instead i have windoze98,windozeNT4.0 workststion and Linux
> RedHat 6.0 on the same P.C. I have tried to run rset8019.exe from
> dosemulator in Linux but i am not sure this is the way(????????)Any help
is
> welcomed. I am in the dark here.
>
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>                     http://www.searchlinux.com



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From: Brad BARCLAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:33:56 -0400

Mooo wrote:
> Well, to be fair, the local IBM rep has forwarded me info to the
> effect that support for Warp4 and Warp Server V4 finishes either Jan
> 2000 or Jan 2001 (I cant remember right now).
> 
> Now granted, a very similar thing happened with Warp 3, and the
> fixpacks kept rolling on.
> 
> Its just difficult to see past the haze and try to imagine what IBM is
> actually going to do.
> 
> For instance, does support drop in 200x for Warp4 because by then they
> intend to have a Warp5?  Who knows?
> 
> This sort of FUD (in its truest sense - Fear Uncertanty and Doubt) is
> what is scaring the willies out of a lot of current and would-be users
> I think.

        The problem with this line of thinking is that the software in
questions doesn't stop working once the end of support date comes by. 
IBM stops producing fixpaks (5 years is a long time to generate fixpaks
- by this time most of the really serious bugs have been fixed long
ago...) and stops offering technical support (unless you have a contract
for it), but the product will continue to work (and I'd offer to say
that if the software is so problematic that you still need a fixpak for
it after 5 years of fixpak production that you probably shouldn't have
been using the product for the proceeding 5 years :).

        OS/2 WARP v3 machines aren't suddenly dying or anything.  They still
work, and are Y2K compliant with the most recent fixes, so they should
continue to work (for at least the next 30 or 40 years, as IIRC some of
the fixes use the sliding-window effect for determining dates).

        New applications and device drivers should mostly continue to work as
well.  In addition, if you don't want to stick with Warp v3, you've had
the option for several years now to upgrade to Warp v4, and now Warp
v4.5 (WSEB, albeit only as a server version).

        There is no point in creating fixpaks forever.  At some point you have
to say "it's done" - and WARP v3, circa 1994, has been brought as far as
it makes sense to bring it (which realy is a long, long way :).

Brad BARCLAY

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Posted from the OS/2 WARP v5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY.
E-Mail:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]            Location:  2G43D@Torolabs

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Turpin Rob)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Dual boot (upgrade to Win98)
Date: 20 Aug 1999 23:24:47 GMT

In article <7pkdp5$bsb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>  I have RedHat 6.0 and Win95 installed on my 6GB
>  WD hard drive. It has been working great, I recently
>  wanted to upgrade Win 95 to Win98, but the installation
>  program (scandisk) told me that it found another
>  OS (linux) already installed on the same hard drive,
>  it then asked me to repartition the hard drive.
>
>  My question is, if linux can co-exist with other
>  OS, why can't Win98. Has anybody out there got aroungd
>  this problem ?
>
>  Here is my partition:
>
>  /dev/hda1  /boot
>  /dev/hda2  /win95
>  /dev/hda3  /linux swap
>  /dev/hda4  /linux
>

I had win 3.11 and Linux on my box and I just upgraded the win3.11 to
win98.  I don't recall a prompt coming up to repartition the hard drive.
Nonetheless, I would suspect that you'd have the option to not repartition
the drive.  Than just install and it'll install on the fat32 paritition.  

One small problem I had was that the upgrade overwrote my mbr.  Just make
sure you have a boot disk for linux so, you can get back into linux and
put lilo back into the mbr.


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From: William Burkett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MntCD-Rom?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:34:24 -0500

Jim wrote:

> My Gimp
> cant find the fonts that some scripts need, where can i find this fonts
> and where to put them so gimp can use them??

Where you can find them depends a lot on what the specific fonts are.
There are tons of different fonts in different formats created by
different people, so this is really impossible to answer without some
specifics, sorry.  You might want to start by checking out the information
and following the links on the Gimp's homepage, specifically their fonts
page.  You can find it here:

http://www.gimp.org/fonts.html

There's a link at the bottom for a package called "freefonts".  These are
pretty cool.

Once you've unpacked the fonts into their own directory under
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/, you can use the chkfontpath command (if you
have RedHat, you've already got this) to tell your computer to remember
where you put them.  See the manpage - it's pretty simple.


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From: "Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Is there a way to mount a samba share as a directory?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:01:27 -0700

See 'man smbmount'

Regards,

Phil

K. Eggleston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi...  Is there a way to mount a particular samba share as a directory?
> I'd like to work with files on remote machines just as if they were local
> on my machine.  FTP and smbclient are good but working with my remote
> files using bash would be best.
>
> Thanks,
> -Kim



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From: "Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 02:19:56 +0200


I have been seriously thinking to use Linux and stop using Windows 98. I am
fascinated by Linux's stability and security.

Therefore, I have seriously planing to install Linux and USE IT.

However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux, since I use
cable modem with a 3com ISA card. More precisely, I use 3com EtherLink III
ISA (3C509/3C509b) network interface card, and there are no drivers which
will support my card in Linux.

Did someone else have similar problems?

Regards,
Kalkas





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Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Aug 1999 16:50:20 -0700

Craig Brozefsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > > So, I grab libguile source and hack it up.  If I distribute, gotta GPL
> > > it, without or without the exception.  If I write a web server and
> > > want to link against libguile to support server side scripting, I can
> > > do that and release the webserver under whatever license I please.
> > 
> > What about the script?
> 
> Same as it ever was dewd.  No claim on the script.  Perl scripts do
> not need to be artistic or GPL, nor do TCL scripts have to be licensed
> the same as TCL.

The Artistic licence specifies that the script is not in any way
considered a derivative and can be licenced any way the author sees
fit.  Not sure what the TCL licence is, but I am pretty sure it is not 
GPL.

The GPL does make claims to derivative works, I am not sure what the
legal implications are in a script for a program which depends on a
GPLed library but it seems to me that this would be covered by the
GPL...and if the licence only leaves an exception for the linked
program and not the script then who can know besides someone well
versed in copywrite laws.  I know Title 17, but I don't know well
enough to tell what a judge would say in these matters.

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From: "John Roe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compaq Prosignia 200 and RedHat 5.2
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:10:18 -0500

The prosignia 200 is a good fit.  If you have a SCSI model, you should use
the NCR 8XX driver, and the network controller is the TI TLAN
(ThunderLAN) -- if you have a non-SCSI model, just use the normal PIIX4
driver for IDE!

--John

Nasir A. Jamil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:TQ1v3.145$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi:
>
> I will like to install RH5.2 on Prosignia 200. Has any body done it
before?
> Is it a good match? Please share your experience -- good or bad. I am new
to
> Linux.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nasir
>
>



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Lisp OSes (was: Re: Troll (was: why not C++?))
From: "Noah Roberts (jik-)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Aug 1999 16:56:49 -0700

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne) writes:

> On 20 Aug 1999 08:59:59 +0200, Stephan Houben
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted: 
> >OK, you have me convinced. I want it.
> >
> >Is anyone working on a new Lisp OS nowadays?
> 
> See: <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lisposes.html> for links to several
> projects.

That site is quite broken...one link goes to a credit card sales pitch!
> 
> It's not clear which, if any, will get sufficiently developed as to be
> of real interest...
> 
> -- 
> "Note that if I can get you  to `su and say' something just by asking,
> you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should
> look into it."  -- Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: "Caitanya" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 10:59:14 +1000

I'm on cable as well the guys are great there and you can joing the bigpond
linux newsgroup, read the FAQ and you'll get up and running in not time at
all

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=======================================
Kalkas wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

I have been seriously thinking to use Linux and stop using Windows 98. I am
fascinated by Linux's stability and security.

Therefore, I have seriously planing to install Linux and USE IT.

However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux, since I use
cable modem with a 3com ISA card. More precisely, I use 3com EtherLink III
ISA (3C509/3C509b) network interface card, and there are no drivers which
will support my card in Linux.

Did someone else have similar problems?

Regards,
Kalkas







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From: Mathieu =?iso-8859-1?Q?Clert=E9?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Problems compiling 2.2.11 kernel (kernel upgrade fro 2.0.36)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:39:03 -1100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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got exaaactly the same problem...

Help us pleaaaaase !!

(i tried to find as86 with GnoRPM - which RMP requires or provides "as86"
-but in vain)
Oh, one thing more on: this 'search' function in gnoRPM : it seems that when
you select 'provides'  it doesn't find anything... damn!

:)




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Greer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: passwd sucks, how do I get around it?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:27:25 GMT

Hello,

I really hate the bullshit checking passwd does to make sure you
enter a pass word it likes.  How do I get that pig fucker to
accept anything for a pass word?  Don't give me any lecture about
security either.  I should have a choice.  I can handle the risk.
I also jump out of airplanes.

I run RH 5.2 and kernel 2.0.36

one other question which is simple:  how do I copy all hidden
files in a directory?  There is no -a option for cp.

thanks in advance
--
Jeff Greer
B.S. computer science, University of MO - Rolla
==================================================
Windows NT has crashed,
I am the Blue Screen of Death,
No one hears your screams...

If you don't have anything mean to say about 
Microsoft, don't say anything at all.

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From: Toni Grass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
at.linux,aus.computers.linux,be.comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 1999 00:46:51 GMT

Kalkas wrote:
> 
> I have been seriously thinking to use Linux and stop using Windows 98. I am
> fascinated by Linux's stability and security.
> 
> Therefore, I have seriously planing to install Linux and USE IT.
> 
> However, it seems that it is not possible for me to use Linux, since I use
> cable modem with a 3com ISA card. More precisely, I use 3com EtherLink III
> ISA (3C509/3C509b) network interface card, and there are no drivers which
> will support my card in Linux.
> 
> Did someone else have similar problems?
> 

This card is definitely supported by Linux!! I used the same NIC
together with a cable modem. The only problem is plug&punish - you will
have to switch it off.

regards
        Toni

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From: Marco Jost <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sound for users
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 22:07:40 +0100

Hallo

can someone help me?
I compiled my Kernel 2.2.7 for debian linux with sound support, made a
new device audio and now I can use the soundmixer of gnome and get
sound. There is only the problem that I must be root.
If I login as a simple user I get the message "no mixer support" .
What have I do to get sound as user.

Thanks to all whants to help me

Marco



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