Linux-Misc Digest #481, Volume #24 Tue, 16 May 00 00:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Help:Installing X fonts packaged for Debian in Redhat ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Where to get Red Flag Linux? ("David ..")
Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux (Alexander
Viro)
Re: XMMS & Sound ("ex-freek")
First Boot of Winlinux (Monty)
Re: How to tell available Hard Disk space ("ex-freek")
Re: Where to get Gozilla/GetRight-like program on Linux? ("ex-freek")
Re: modprobe: can't locate module lo:{0-49} (Johan Kullstam)
Re: Where to get Red Flag Linux? (Robert Heller)
Re: WYSIWYG web page generator (Robert Heller)
Re: XMMS & Sound (Dances With Crows)
VIRUS ALERT- Linux/*BSD honour virus found ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to tell available Hard Disk space ("Lonni J. Friedman")
Re: Help:Installing X fonts packaged for Debian in Redhat ("Lam Dang")
visual IRC client for Linux?! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux (Mongoose)
Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux (Mongoose)
Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux (Todd Knarr)
How to sepecific fonts in Linux Netscape for button? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: licq no longer working (David Efflandt)
Copying CD's... What's best? (Jerry McBride)
Re: Linux is cool! (was: Wierd SuSE6.4 problem) (Peter Dixon)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Help:Installing X fonts packaged for Debian in Redhat
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:11:52 GMT
Hi, there,
I would like to install the xfntbig5p-cmex24m font package in my
Redhat 6.2 system. But I can only find this package in .deb format.
Is there any way to 'decompress' .deb file so that I can install this
font package?
Thanks for all the help!
--
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Regards,
Roger Shum
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:05:14 GMT
Please move this discussion to a more
appropriate forum. This is not really an
Operating System related topic.
Thank you.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mark Wilden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> elemental wrote:
> >
> > I write and test most of my HTML in Windows because that's what the
> > majority of the clients are using.
>
> Which Windows? Which browser? Which screen resolution? Which colour
> depth? Which monitor size? Which screen-reader? How many of these
> combinations do you (or can anyone) test?
>
> And what about the minority who don't use Windows? Blow them off?
>
> I'm not an HTML purist by any means. But by writing standard HTML that
> makes sense on any platform, you'll increase your audience, and make
> more money.
>
> Testing Web pages is like testing software: you've got to do it, but
it
> doesn't substitute for writing the code right in the first place,
> because you can't test everything.
>
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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get Red Flag Linux?
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:26:18 -0500
HJL wrote:
>
> OK, I saw this report that Chinese was about to ban Win2000 and
> use "Red Flag Linux" instead.
>
> So where can we find "Red Flag Linux"?
>
> Anybody?
>
> Chester Lin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Taipei, Taiwan
http://www.redflag-linux.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux
Date: 15 May 2000 21:28:07 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was going to allow remote administration of the system. I know
>this creates lots of security problems but none that can't be solved.
Uh-oh...
> As for linuxconf... linuxconf is actually the reason why I'm making
>this program. Linuxconf is pretty messy and disorganized. But the main
[snip "why linuxconf is a piece of shit" - that's obvious]
>users have to learn. I was going to write my program to allow modules
>in any language. As long as they can do STDIO. They just output their
Erm... Question: "modules" as in "independent binaries" or as in "something
that can be linked with your code"? The latter case sucks horribly - it
excludes shell scripts, to start with. The former... What the heck do you
mean "can do STDIO"? How does the choice of library matter?
>html page, the web server can serve it and then send data back to the
>program, using cgi. It won't matter what language its written in and
>the user will just have to learn html and cgi, which most people
>already know.
<shudder> Considering the quality of HTML floating around (let alone
CGI - that's a separate rant) I wouldn't use the word "know". Aside of
the biblical sense, that is...
> As for the web server, I was going to write my own mini
>webserver, if there wasn't one already. Just enough to serve the pages
>on a different port. This way the user configuring their system
>wouldn't be required to have a web server installed, and I wouldn't be
>running through port80 creating and more security issues.
Alert: changing the port number does not give you _any_ additional security.
> Which kinda brings me to another question. Is passing data through
>stdio a good idea? Won't certain characters, like high ascii
>characters, get lost if you try to pipe them through stdio?
??? What do you mean?
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: "ex-freek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: XMMS & Sound
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:30:39 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Beno=EEt?=
Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I recently installed XMMS, and I ran it using the Disk Writer Plugin as
> my Output Plugin... Not only there is no sound, but MP3 files are played
> 3 times faster than their true length ! May I have forgotten something ?
>
The Disk Writer Plugin does just what it says, it decompresses the mp3 and
outputs it to wav format on your hard drive. The decompression process
can usually move faster than the actual bitrate of the song which explains
why it finishes so quickly. Use the OSS driver if it works, if not, use
the esd driver (the esd driver gives a bit more overhead, and sometimes
creates skipping)
Hope I was helpful
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From: Monty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: First Boot of Winlinux
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:30:09 GMT
I just got the non beta version of Winlinux 2000. When I boot it for the
first time it says it is checking the FAT system, since it is the first
boot. It never stops doing this. Could someone help me?
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From: "ex-freek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to tell available Hard Disk space
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:32:11 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Frank J. Schmuck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The subject sez it all.
man df man du
(the -h option is really useful, and is an option that non-gnu tools are
regretfully missing)
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From: "ex-freek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get Gozilla/GetRight-like program on Linux?
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:37:09 -0500
In article <8fq6n8$k7c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hong) wrote:
> Downloader for X does some of this quite well for http and ftp.
> I don't think it will search for other mirrors or alternative sites yet
> though.
>
>
A simple matter of preference, but I prefer Gnome Transfer manager. The
interface gives you more information, It seems a lot more responsive than
x downloader, and uses wget for a backend.
http://gtm.sourceforge.net/news.html
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: modprobe: can't locate module lo:{0-49}
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:41:50 GMT
Jeff Hildebrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've searched and searched, but I haven't been able to find an answer
> to this question anywhere.
>
> This machine had RH Linux 6.0 installed on it, and I've upgraded the
> kernel to 2.2.15. Now, whenever I boot, I get a bunch of modprobe
> errors in /var/log/messages like this:
this is a long standing bug in
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-post. redhat's kernel enables
interface-ip-aliasing. since most people do not need it, self
compiled kernels won't have it. at this point redhat's script falls
on its face.
in ifup-post, find
if [ "$ISALIAS" = no ] ; then
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-aliases ${DEVICE}
fi
this should be
if [ "$ISALIAS" = yes ] ; then
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-aliases ${DEVICE}
fi
change it and you worry is over. now if we could only convince redhat
to take this bugfix and apply it.
after all, you don't want to run ifup-aliases unless you *do* have
interface aliases.
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Where to get Red Flag Linux?
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:41:57 GMT
HJL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
In a message on Tue, 16 May 2000 07:35:43 +0800, wrote :
H> OK, I saw this report that Chinese was about to ban Win2000 and
H> use "Red Flag Linux" instead.
H>
H> So where can we find "Red Flag Linux"?
Are you sure that they didn't mean 'Red Hat' Linux (possibly a
translation error)? http://www.redhat.com/
H>
H> Anybody?
H>
H> Chester Lin
H> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
H> Taipei, Taiwan
H>
H>
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From: Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WYSIWYG web page generator
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:41:52 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows),
In a message on 15 May 2000 19:24:40 EDT, wrote :
DWC> Oh yes, the "preview" tool on all the GUI-fied HTML composers I've seen
DWC> generates something that's almost, but not quite, entirely unlike what you
DWC> see in Nutscape or Internet Exploder, and none of them have a preview mode
DWC> for Lynx! (Not to mention that I think all wannabe Web designers should
DWC> view all their pages, with images turned on, at least twice from a noisy
DWC> 33.6 dial-up connection, but that's another rant.[2])
TkHTML (not a WYSIWYG editor, just a GUI tool with colorized tags and
menu-based tag insertion) fires up Netscape when 'preview' is selected...
DWC> --
DWC> Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
DWC> There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
DWC> But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
DWC> (Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
DWC>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: XMMS & Sound
Date: 15 May 2000 21:43:03 EDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 16 May 2000 02:24:14 +0200, Beno�t Smith
<<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> shouted forth into the ether:
>I recently installed XMMS, and I ran it using the Disk Writer Plugin as
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>my Output Plugin... Not only there is no sound, but MP3 files are played
>3 times faster than their true length ! May I have forgotten something ?
Take a look at the name of the plugin. Then take a look in your home
directory. Notice anything?
Now start xmms up again, and set the Output Plugin to "OSS". Much better.
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Matt G / Dances With Crows \###| You have me mixed up with more
There is no Darkness in Eternity \##| creative ways of being stupid?
But only Light too dim for us to see \#| Beer is a vegetable. WinNT
(Unless, of course, you're working with NT)\| is the study of cool. --MegaHAL
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Subject: VIRUS ALERT- Linux/*BSD honour virus found
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:54:33 GMT
ALERT ALERT ALERT ALERT NOT SO ALERT
To all Linux and *BSD users, a new virus has been detected that is
specifically targeted at you. It is spread through email and needs
only for the email to be *viewed* for the virus to be activated. It
does require some user intervention for the full effects to occur, so
the best prevention is an aware user. Accordingly, I have included the
full text of the virus below.
Dr. S. Euss
(director - Linux/Unix Virii Grand Overview Database)
-- virus begins here --------
!#/bin/sh
# Honour virus
#
# Dear Linux/*BSD user,
# As you have avoided the various virii inflicted upon your poor
# Windows-using cousins, please take a moment to read this letter and
# then follow the instructions below.
#
# In the spirit of cooperation of the free software community, this
# virus was written to depend on your cooperation and good will - hence
# the name "honour" virus. With your cooperation, this virus can spread
# as rapidly as the lovebug virus, once again showing how the free
# software community can respond to issues quicker than the largest
# propriatary software maker.
#
# The virus starts here:
# 1. Please delete, at random, 10 (ten) .jpg, .mpg, .mp3, or .mov files from
# your hard drive. Please do not choose files for which you have a
# backup, as that would be unfair to all the Windows users who *never*
# backup their data.
# 2. Please send this email to everybody you have ever received an email
# from. We realise that you might have to write a short shell script to
# do this easily, but we feel that, as a Linux or *BSD user, you are
# most likely to be able to do this without relying on built-in insecure
# scripting mechanisms.
# 3. If you are reading this in your workplace, please shut down your
# workplace's email system and internet access for 3 working days -
# again this is just so we can empathise fully with Windows-using
# companies.
# 4. When asked if the writers of Linux or *BSD are to blame, claim that
# the virus only spread because of intervention by the user's brain and
# that the tight integration between your wetware and the OS is a good
# thing that is misused by malicious virus writers.
# 5. If you are Linux Torvalds, Alan Cox, or you have ever written any
# free software, write an essay for Time magazine complaining that it
# will be much harder to protect Linux users from virii such as this
# unless Linux is sold to company asnd development continues only in a
# closed-source environment. In particular, all user knowledge of the OS
# must be erased if such virii are to be prevented in the future.
# 6. As this virus is copylefted under the GPL, feel free to modify,
# err, mutate, and distribute widely.
#
# Thank you. And remember, open source virii are far superior to
# proprietary virii!
#
# Tuxunamis Infectious
==================================
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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to tell available Hard Disk space
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:34:13 -0400
"Frank J. Schmuck" wrote:
>
> The subject sez it all.
No, actually it doesn't. And even if it did, proper usenet procedure is
to place the question in the body, not the subject.
df -h might do whqat you want.
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From: "Lam Dang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Help:Installing X fonts packaged for Debian in Redhat
Date: 15 May 2000 22:13:33 -0400
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tue, 16 May 2000 01:11:52 GMT:
> Hi, there,
> I would like to install the xfntbig5p-cmex24m font package in my
> Redhat 6.2 system. But I can only find this package in .deb format.
>
> Is there any way to 'decompress' .deb file so that I can install this
> font package?
Use the "alien" utility. I used it on
Corel Linux to convert .deb files for
WordPerfect into .rpm files. Note that
alien requires the "rpm" utility.
--
Lam Dang
dangit AT ix DOT netcom DOT com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: visual IRC client for Linux?!
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 02:28:30 GMT
I am looking for a sort of equivalent of Visual IRC that would run on
my Linux mandrake 6.1 box. I got one running under Windows 98 but it
hangs the whole system so often that it makes me crazy! :-)
Anyone please help me! Where can I get something like a visual IRC
client for Linux???!!!
Thanx,
Narcyz
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From: Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 03:16:26 GMT
On 15 May 2000 21:28:07 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander
Viro) wrote:
>>users have to learn. I was going to write my program to allow modules
>>in any language. As long as they can do STDIO. They just output their
>
>Erm... Question: "modules" as in "independent binaries" or as in "something
>that can be linked with your code"? The latter case sucks horribly - it
>excludes shell scripts, to start with. The former... What the heck do you
>mean "can do STDIO"? How does the choice of library matter?
Yes independant binaries. And as for stdio, I was enforcing the idea
that every language people are going to use to edit a config file will
have stdio and can be used for a module.
>
>>html page, the web server can serve it and then send data back to the
>>program, using cgi. It won't matter what language its written in and
>>the user will just have to learn html and cgi, which most people
>>already know.
>
><shudder> Considering the quality of HTML floating around (let alone
>CGI - that's a separate rant) I wouldn't use the word "know". Aside of
>the biblical sense, that is...
Well if they can't figure out decent html, they probably wouldn't be
able to figure out how to write a decent module anyways. =)
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From: Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 03:16:42 GMT
Blah, that's basically what I was going to do.
On Tue, 16 May 2000 00:57:10 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher
Browne) wrote:
>Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Mongoose would say:
>> I was going to allow remote administration of the system. I know
>>this creates lots of security problems but none that can't be solved.
>>
>> As for linuxconf... linuxconf is actually the reason why I'm making
>>this program. Linuxconf is pretty messy and disorganized. But the main
>>reason is that linuxconf only allows C++ modules to be added into the
>>program, and they have to be written to work with a new interface
>>users have to learn. I was going to write my program to allow modules
>>in any language. As long as they can do STDIO. They just output their
>>html page, the web server can serve it and then send data back to the
>>program, using cgi. It won't matter what language its written in and
>>the user will just have to learn html and cgi, which most people
>>already know. As for the web server, I was going to write my own mini
>>webserver, if there wasn't one already. Just enough to serve the pages
>>on a different port. This way the user configuring their system
>>wouldn't be required to have a web server installed, and I wouldn't be
>>running through port80 creating and more security issues.
>
>Have you looked at WebMin?
>
><http://www.webmin.com/webmin/>
>
>It looks like it is trying to handle many of the same things you are,
>and has the merit that there are already a boatload of modules to help
>manage different services in a modular manner.
>
>Sounds to me like you should probably look into that, if you want to
>do web-based interactive system reconfiguration.
>
>If you want something scripted, you should look at Cfengine.
> <http://www.iu.hioslo.no/cfengine/>
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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Need input on developing a unified configuration program for linux
Date: 16 May 2000 03:23:13 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Mongoose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for linuxconf... linuxconf is actually the reason why I'm making
> this program. Linuxconf is pretty messy and disorganized. But the main
> reason is that linuxconf only allows C++ modules to be added into the
> program, and they have to be written to work with a new interface
> users have to learn. I was going to write my program to allow modules
> in any language. As long as they can do STDIO. They just output their
> html page, the web server can serve it and then send data back to the
> program, using cgi. It won't matter what language its written in and
The C++-only is a point. However, the rest is precisely what linuxconf
in Web interface mode does. It merely resides on a different port, but
it feeds HTML back to the user's Web browser and the user enters data
via standard forms ( there is no such thing as CGI between the browser
and the server ).
> Which kinda brings me to another question. Is passing data through
> stdio a good idea? Won't certain characters, like high ascii
> characters, get lost if you try to pipe them through stdio?
In general Unix streams ( which is what stdin/stdout/stderr are ) are
8-bit clean. The Web server and browser may not like characters not
legal in HTML documents, if any, but that's about it. All you will
need to do, if writing a CGI script, is follow the CGI I/O spec.
--
Collin was right. Never give a virus a missile launcher.
-- Erk, Reality Check #8
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: netscape.public.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: How to sepecific fonts in Linux Netscape for button?
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 03:18:37 GMT
Hi, there,
I would like to know how to change the fonts for those 'button'/
pull-down menu in an Web page.
It is mainly for foreign language (chinese big5). I can view the
text in the main windows in chinese encoding. But for those test
in the 'button'/pull-down menu, they are still displayed as funny
characters.
Is there a setting that I can set that can change those fonts too?
My system is RedHat 6.2 and Netscape 4.72.
By the way, I can increase/decrease the fonts by using Alt-[ and
Alt-]. In the fonts preference, I set 'allow scaling' already. Do I have
to fill in the field beside 'allow scaling'?
Is there anything I have to do? For some Web pages, the fonts are just
too small.
Thanks for all the help!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: licq no longer working
Date: 16 May 2000 03:43:30 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 15 May 2000 00:23:17 +0200, Bernard Debreil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Would there be anyone having some experience in licq ? I have
>installed this software on RedHat 6.0... It worked fine for 2 weeks or
>so, but, now, I can no longer get chat with Mirabilis ICQ users. Has
>anything changed in the network ? What could the explanation be ?
>What to do to get it working again ?
>
>Thanks for any hint,
It still works for me. I am using licq 0.71 in RH 6.1. I guess I have
not been on it for a week, because I had messages waiting from May 8 & 14.
And the server seemed to accept a reply for someone offline.
Do you see anyone else online and just can't chat with them or don't you
see anyone online at all. I have to send messages through the server for
one user on dsl, even when he appears to be online. Did you change
anything with ipchains or DNS lately?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry McBride)
Subject: Copying CD's... What's best?
Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:34:20 -0400
Having been a long time user of cdrdao... I was wondering whatelse there is
available to copy cd's with?
My only reason for asking is that on a rare occasion, cdrdao will cause a
kernel panic, locking the computer up.
Anyone?
I run a mix of yamaha 4416s, toshiba 6201 hung off an old aha1522b...
Anyone?
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From: Peter Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux is cool! (was: Wierd SuSE6.4 problem)
Date: 15 May 2000 21:49:42 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Haynes) writes:
> Peter Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > > There, in one word, you have the reason why hardware is cooler than
> > > software.
> > > Software never responds to being "wiggled".
> >
> > Do you think that it would be good if it could? For example, if you
> > could take some old software and wiggle it to run well on your brand-new
> > linux system?
>
> B...b...but it does respond to being wiggled!!
>
> ...if your idea of wiggling is dropping an extra
> #include <sys/types.h>
> into the top of a .c file to make it compile on linux instead of FleeBSE,
> for example... :)
>
Yes it is, and going a little further when necessary...
"Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Cue the "in my old days..." thread. The first OS I used (Pr1mos) had the
> guarantee that ANY program written for ANY 50-series processor, would
> run fine on ANY newer (and usually older) 50-series processor. So if you
> bought the executable to run on a 250 (first made late 70's?), the self
> same executable would still run on the latest 6000s they were making
> when they went bust in the 90s. Within limits I think you could also
> have compiled an executable on the 6000, copy it to the 250, and watch
> it run :-) (Still slightly on topic - Pr1mos was based on multics...)
I know nothing of Pr1mos but it sounds like a good environment, sadly
passed. No doubt many good Pr1mos programs survive. Would a wiggle
enable them to run well under Linux, or is this a little ambitious? I
suspect that a little more than an extra #include <sys/types.h> would
be required.
Peter
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