Linux-Misc Digest #505, Volume #21 Sun, 22 Aug 99 14:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy? (Mathew A. Hennessy)
BeOS ("Robert F. Scheyder")
Re: Which distribution to use? (notbob)
Re: Which distribution to use? (Albert Ulmer)
Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? (Raphael Tennenbaum)
Re: passwd sucks, how do I get around it? (Allin Cottrell)
Re: ICQ?? (Roger)
Quake 3 Arena (Justin Fisher)
I failed to install XFree86 (Bruno NICOLAS)
Linux printer and Windows 95 (Henrik Ericson)
Re: BeOS Question (Helge Grimm)
Re: 3com ISA cards and linux (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor (fred smith)
Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD??? (John Girash)
help needed: Windows 98 and Linux coexistence ("OIT News Server")
Re: ICQ?? (FS)
Re: BeOS Question (George Marengo)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mathew A. Hennessy)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I switch from OS/2 to Linux and be happy?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 14:53:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Baden Kudrenecky)
>spake unto us, saying:
>
>> Besides being stable, Solaris has a total 'out of the box'
>>experience, and the CDE includes almost everything you would
>>want and need to do as a user. I believe that the KDE is
>>modelled after the CDE.
>
>No, KDE and CDE share little more than initials, though it's possible
>that the virtual desktop button layout in KDE was influenced by CDE.
The task bar is a melange of Win95 and CDE, but mostly CDE.
>>The CDE is slick, functional, and stable, has much more polish
>>than the KDE, and everything works.
>
>Wow, I seriously disagree with your assessment. :-) It's subjective
>and not that big a deal (since I don't expect people to share my point
>of view), but I think CDE absolutely sucks even compared to some of the
>older free window managers like AfterStep 1.0.
CDE is _WAAY_ flabby, much more so than KDE, in terms of used
memory.. why should a dtterm take 3-4MB?
>The WPS beats them both, of course.
Mebbe, but I like to use software written in the last 3 years.. ;)
--
"The day that Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day that they
start making vacuum cleaners."
- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Fool! There is nothing Perl cannot do! NOTHING!" -Bastich
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From: "Robert F. Scheyder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BeOS
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:13:26 -0400
Hi,
Hate to bring this up, but what is BeOS? And why to they claim to be better
than Linux? They're thinking of giving it a try at my school, and I'm just
interested in what BeOS really claims to do.
Tschuss!
Robert Scheyder
--
===================================================
Robert F. Scheyder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Life is a Battlefield..."
-with apologies to Pat Benatar
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From: notbob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Which distribution to use?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 15:21:11 GMT
If you are new to linux, and the unix OS, I would highly recommend you
buy the RedHat 6.0 boxed distro. There are several versions ...The
Complete ... The Deluxe ... etc. Get the box with The Complete RH Linux
Installation Guide book and 3 CD's. One of these CD's includes 3 well
known linux books in PDF format, a $60 value.
For a intoductory education on partitioning (a MUST know):
http://webopedia.internet.com/TERM/p/partition.html
check the links at the bottom.
Also check out:
http://www.infomagic.com/linux/ldp/LDP/gs/gs.html
Chapter 3, "unix tutorial" is the best cut-to-the-chase biginner's
introduction to Unix I've found.
good Tux =D
nb
Varma wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> I want to install Linux on my Wintel m/c & I'm kind of confused by all these
> distributions - Redhat, Caldera, Mandrake, ... How do I choose which one to
> buy? Or is it better to simply download from the net for free?
>
> The other question is about partitioning my harddrive. Most of the
> distributions require a partition to be created. But I found that there is
> this PhatLinux which can be directly launched from your C:\
>
> Has anyone had any experiences in PhatLinux? If so, please send me an
> email -> srv7(at)hotmail(dot)com.
>
> Thanks for your help! (Hoping to have Linux installed in a couple of days
> :-)
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From: Albert Ulmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: Which distribution to use?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:26:20 GMT
> The other question is about partitioning my harddrive. Most of the
> distributions require a partition to be created. But I found that=20
there is
> this PhatLinux which can be directly launched from your C:\
While the idea of PhatLinux is fascinating, I have not yet heard any=20
favourable reports about it. I think you would be better off with=20
something like Caldera 2.2, which includes a graphical repartitioning=20
tool and Windows-based setup.
> Thanks for your help! (Hoping to have Linux installed in a couple of=20
days
> :-)
Apart from Caldera, I also like the current SuSE 6.2 for it's easy=20
installation and the large library of software (6 CDs) it includes.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raphael Tennenbaum)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users?
Date: Sun, 22 August 1999 10:33:19 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John L. Daschbach) wrote:
>schnip>
>
> Perspective:
> OS/2 (with Object Desktop) still has one of the best user
>interfaces going. Much of this is because of the WPS and SOME.
>Nothing I have used or read about approaches OS/2 in terms of desktop
>power *and* configurability. However this comes at a price, and that
>price is stability. I have had OS/2 up for weeks, but at times,
>especially when using *real* applications, the WPS gets totally
>wacked, windows don't repaint, objects partially freeze on the screen,
>the system won't respond to keyboard or mouse. This is typically when
>using the combination of Navigator and a Lotus product (WordPro, 123,
>Approach, Freelance). The only solution is a hard reboot. Other
>times programs have problems and there is no way to kill them, at
>least using the tools I have. In other words, OS/2 when it works is
>great, when it doesn't it's hell.
>
>more schnip>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>-John
Uh huh. 1) Uninstall OD, which is probably 95% of what's
kerflooey on your system. Replace with freeware Xfolder.
2) Apply the latest fix for Netscape 4.04. 3) Reinstall
your video drivers, especially if there's newer ones
available for your card. 4) Clean up your INI files with
Henk Kelder's wptools.
-Ray
--
Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6
readme@ http://www.ray-field.com
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: passwd sucks, how do I get around it?
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 10:32:48 -0400
Jeff Greer wrote:
>
> Thanks,
>
> I can change passwords to what I want now, but startx does not
> work for other users. X starts up fine with root, but it dies on
> other users.
Hint:
-rws--x--x 1 root root 5883 Nov 13 1998 Xwrapper
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: Roger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ??
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:57:12 +0100
James Bradley wrote:
> Check out <A HREF="http://www.portup.com/~gyandl/icq/">the Linux
> ICQ Page</A> for a comprehensive listing of Linux ICQ clients.
You don't need to put tags around URLs in e-mail, but the thought was
nice :-)
I just wish everyone would include the http:// because Netscape doesn't
identify them as URLs otherwise.
--
Roger
Web: http://freespace.virgin.net/roger.cantwell
ICQ: 40038278
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From: Justin Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Quake 3 Arena
Date: 22 Aug 1999 16:20:32 GMT
hello, ive been trying to get q3test to work under linux. I have a 3dfx Voodoo
3 and have followed all the instructions on glide.xxedgexx.com and have all the
needed drivers installed. However, when the game is run as a non-root user it
is extremely slow. When run as root it just doesnt work. This is on a SMP 450
system btw. Any Suggestions? Also, regular glquake under linux fails
everytime with a segfault. I have checked the permissions on /dev/3dfx as it
mentions on the webpage and everyone has rw to it. Help!
--
Justin Fisher: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bruno NICOLAS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: I failed to install XFree86
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 11:39:48 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I failed to install XFree, I try to follow the steps from
XFreeConfig to params and run X,
but It doesnt work : I like to find a detailed howTo or web site
that explains the steps and common mistakes.
I have HP Vectra 386 with integrated S3 video chipset.
Where are the good info to get from the computer and
to tell in set-up ?
Thanks
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From: Henrik Ericson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux printer and Windows 95
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:05:29 +0200
I have a Windows 95 machine and a Linux machine with a printer connected
to. Now I want to share my Linux files and printer with the Windows 95
machine. So I started Samba and got it running. When I tried to connect
to a Linux directory or the printer from Windows 95 a password dialog
came up. After some research I found that i shuuld change the
security=user to security=share in the smb.conf file. Now I don't need a
password when I try to connect to a Linux directory, but it's still
there when I try to use the printer. What's wrong? Please help!
Henrik Ericson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Helge Grimm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: BeOS Question
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 19:10:36 +0200
BeOS is a very fast multimedia-os...
"Robert F. Scheyder" schrieb:
> Hi,
>
> Hate to bring this up, but what is BeOS? And why to they claim to be better
> than Linux? They're thinking of giving it a try at my school, and I'm just
> interested in what BeOS really claims to do.
>
> Tschuss!
>
> Robert Scheyder
>
> --
> ===================================================
> Robert F. Scheyder
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Life is a Battlefield..."
> -with apologies to Pat Benatar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: 3com ISA cards and linux
Date: 22 Aug 1999 08:27:26 -0700
"Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stephen R. Savitzky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Kalkas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> Thanks Steve!
> That was good news indeed!
>
> I also assume now that Linux should support my monitor and my audio card. My
> audio card is Creative Sound Blaster PCI 128, and my monitor is MAG
> InnoVision DX15F. Am I correct in my assumption?
I understand that the SB PCI128 is supported; I remember seeing
something to that effect on one of the newsgroups recently. (I'm
usually too lazy to get sound working, myself.)
I have a MAG monitor of some sort, but in general there's no problem
with monitors. One suggestion: track down your monitor's specifications
before trying to configure X. You'll want to know the horizontal and
vertical frequency limits so that X can set timings that don't fry the
monitor (it's happened to me). If you don't have the information,
specifying your monitor as a "generic multisync" usually works with
anything that's not too old.
--
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Crossposted-To: redhat.general,comp.os.linux.x,redhat.x.general
From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Alert: AMD K6-2 350 Mhz processor
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:24:30 GMT
Rob Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Has anyone else experienced a system freeze with this processor on RH6.0
: ???
: Since upgrading my machine I have been trying to fathom problems where
: my system locks up - no error message, nothing. This usually occurs
: during X sessions when I'm performing a large disk operation (copying a
: 70 Meg file).
: I've seen other similar reports, and this processor seems to be the
: common factor.
: Can anyone confirm this ?
No. cannot confirm it, though I'm still on RH 5.2, not 6.0.
Mine runs great at 350 Mhz.
Perhaps you've got an unstable motherboard? I'm running mine on a
FIC VA503+. I've heard rumors that some of the other Super7 boards
available may not always be stable at higher speeds (though of course
I have no experience with any of them so have no concrete knowledge).
Fred
--
---- Fred Smith -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------
The eyes of the Lord are everywhere,
keeping watch on the wicked and the good.
============================= Proverbs 15:3 (niv) =============================
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From: John Girash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WTF is the difference between Linux and FreeBSD???
Date: 22 Aug 1999 12:48:30 -0500
Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: The Linux
: market is also more fragmented than the FreeBSD market (there are dozens
: of Linux distributions but only one FreeBSD distribution [though there are
: other BSD variants, like NetBSD]).
Just to put in ,02$, while both of the statements "Linux is more fragmented
than FreeBSD" and "*BSD is more fragmented than Linux" are probably true,
it's unclear which offers more insight. It might be better to say "Linux
and the BSD's are fragmented differently, at least partly due to their
different development models."
In my opinion, this isn't a weakness for either branch of free Un*x.
One thing to be careful of is that just as the term "Linux" is sometimes
mistakenly applied to all free Unices, "FreeBSD" is often mistakenly used
where *BSD would be more appropriate. NetBSD and OpenBSD have a lot going
for them too, not the least of which is (much more) multi-platform support.
jg
--
"don't listen when you're told about the best days in your life Spirit of
a useless old expression, it means passing time until you die." the West
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-- John Girash -- girash @ cfa.harvard.edu - http://skyron.harvard.edu/ --
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From: "OIT News Server" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help needed: Windows 98 and Linux coexistence
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:43:57 -0400
Hello...
I have a problem which can be characterized as "Windows recognizing the
disk-space dedicated to Linux use and attempting to reformat that space...".
To make the short-story long: here are the details:
I just installed LINUX [RedHat 6.2] on a new DELL machine where the origianl
OS is MS Windows 98. I have an extra, empty hard-drive [8GB] for LINUX; but
I have kept a small partition on this extra hard-drive in accessible to
Windows 98 in MS-DOS FAT36 format. [i.e. the "extra" hard-drive has a
"Windows" partition which is formatted to use 25% of the hard-drive, whereas
the rest is left unpartitioned and unformatted for LINUX use]. Before I
installed LINUX, Windows 98 would not "see" the rest of this hardrive [about
6 GB].
Nevertheles, now, that I have installed LINUX [Red-Hat 6.2] on this machine;
once I give LILO the option of starting DOS; Windows 98 would start
screaming about being impropertly shut down previously and running SCANDISK
on the Linux Partion. After completion of the Scandisk - I noticed that the
LINUX parition had become visible to Windows 98 and the MS OS would come up
with
suggestions to reformat this "unsed" space...
I would greatly appreciate any hints as to getting rid of this problem and
making the LINUX partition invisible to Windows again...
Many thanks in advance!
Kristaps
--
Kristaps Licis
Finance PhD Student - Isenberg School of Management
Research Associate - CISDM
University of Massachusetts
Amherst, MA 01003
tel. (413) 545-3180; fax. (413) 577-1350
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From: FS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: ICQ??
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 16:22:33 GMT
Why would you want ICQ? When you send someone a file, all they have to do
to get your ip/computername is run a netstat. Once they run a netstat, all
they need to connect to the open ftp port on your computer is knowladge of
how to do it.
FS
I hope you burn in hell for the use of ICQ!
Christopher Lu wrote:
> Can someone please recommend a good icq program for Linux? I'm running
> Mandrake 6 and need for the program to be able to interact with
> mirabillis/aol windows icq (see/talk to windows icq).
>
> Thanks in advance!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Marengo)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: BeOS Question
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 17:11:27 GMT
On Sun, 22 Aug 1999 12:56:58 -0400, "Robert F. Scheyder"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hate to bring this up, but what is BeOS?
http://www.be.com/
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