Linux-Misc Digest #568, Volume #21 Sat, 28 Aug 99 11:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: Can Linux read NTFS? (Tom Shannon)
Re: Kernel Panic: and I Panic too. (NF Stevens)
Re: [Q] message on telnet? (NF Stevens)
Re: Printer chopping off the end? (Frank Hahn)
Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy (Jon Bloom)
Re: Best language for graphical apps? (Stephan Houben)
Dial-in server config problem (Jim Ridenour)
Re: How to I remove Lilo (GA)
What is a demand-paged-executable (QMAGIC)? (Oliver Gebele)
Re: I've got a PCI Winmodem... ("Justin W. Williams")
Re: PPP, no chat (John Hasler)
slocate (root)
Re: File system repair after crash (Roving Reporter)
Re: [Q] message on telnet? (Warren Bell)
RE:floppy drives (james)
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From: Tom Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can Linux read NTFS?
Date: 27 Aug 1999 08:23:29 -0500
"Nobody U. Know" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> T.P Harte wrote in message <7q4lna$247$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Is it possible for Linux to read NTFS? I have tried to
> >mount the NT partition on my disk but Linux doesn't
> >recognise it.
> You may need to get the newest kernel sources and
> recompile your kernel, but yes it will. However to use
> this you must make sure that you choose support for
> experimental drivers when configuring.
As as 2.3.2 reading NTFS is OK but the write support is experimental
and dangerous. I've heard nothing but very bad things (e.g. "It
corrupted my partition the first time I tried it.")
Make sure you choose the read-only support for now.
Tom
--
Quote of the day for Wednesday, 25 August, 1999:
"A nuclear power plant is infinently safer than eating, because 300
people choke to death on food every year."
- Dixy Lee Ray
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: Kernel Panic: and I Panic too.
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:10:52 GMT
"Gabriel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I get this upon boot:
>
> Kernel panic: unable to mount root fs on 08:07
>
>I am new to linux so please forgive my ignorance.
>
>This is what I understood so far.
>
>The problem appeared after not using linux for some time.
>While in OS/2 I apparenty consolidated two partitions (I
>don't
>remember doing it but there is no other explanation).
>As a result my root partition, which used to be sda7 (
>08:07) became
>sda6.
>Trying to cure that, I used a rescue disc to boot, mounted
>my
>root partition ( which seems completely OK) and changed all
>
>instances of sda6 to sda7 in etc/fstab , etc/lilo.conf and
>etc/mtab
>( the last one is probably superfluous--so be it.)
>
>But the Panic message persists and I guess the problem is
>that i need to run sbin/lilo from within my installed
>kernel, but I don't know how, since my kernel won't boot--
>that's exactly the problem.
>
>I use Red-Hat 6. ( recompiled to 2.2.10 )
>partitions:
>/ sda6
>/boot sda5 ( yes, I changed that to)
>
You need to set the root partition in the kernel
using rdev (check the man page for details).
Alternatively you could set the root partition
by typing root=/dev/sda6 at the lilo prompt when
you boot.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NF Stevens)
Subject: Re: [Q] message on telnet?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:10:53 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (student) wrote:
>
>
>Hi!
>
>I have a question on where I can find the message
>when you telnet to a linux machine.
>Specifically, the message is:
>
>
>--------------------------
>% telnet machine.edu
>Trying x.x.x.x...
>Connected to machine.edu.
>Escape character is '^]'.
>
>Linux 2.2.5-15 (machine.edu) <------ *
>
>login:
>--------------------------
>
>For the security reason, I need to replace * line.
>The machine is running RedHat 6.x.
>I searched several directories, but in vain.
>Where is the message located?
It's usually /etc/issue.net.
Norman
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Printer chopping off the end?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 10:02:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Aug 1999 14:24:47 GMT, Chris Butler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It seems that whenever I print something (using GhostScript on an Epson
>Stylus 400), it chops off the last bit of the page (about 5mm or so).
>
>Does anyone know why it's doing this, and (more importantly) how to stop
>it?
>
There is a file called align.ps that is included with ghostscript.
Run this file through your printer and then setup a file called
margins.ps (for example) based on this printout. Then include this
file name on the ghostscript command line. Hopefully, your
printer will now print within these margins.
--
Frank Hahn
Yes, but which self do you want to be?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 04:53:07 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Kenny A. Chaffin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just go to a bookstore and flip through the pages.
> >> Or do you need to poll everyone's opinion on which bookstore
> >> to go to..? FCOL...
> >
> >No, because you didn't express your opinion wrt the subject of the
> >question. You suggested that I form my own opinion about the magazines,
> >which is exactly why I asked the question and I have gotten helpful
> >responses from others.....
>
> Thing is, you can't form an opinion of a magazine from reading what a
> bunch of strangers have to say about it. I like Linux Journal. What
> does that mean to you? Nothing. For all you know, it might rank right
> behind Reader's Digest and TV Guide on my list of must-reads.
>
> >If you don't have anthing constructive to add the just shut up.
>
> Advice that you'd do well to heed: ignore those whose posts bug you.
> Don't post followups to their followups with friendly language like
> "just shut up." You'll get little from the experience.
So I guess I shouldn't have responded to this. <grin>
In fact if my responding to the drivel prevents him from doing it next
time, or perhaps even makes him think twice before posting gibberish,
then maybe, just maybe, it was worth it.
And yes, your opinion IS worth something. We are, after all, a society
and cooperating, forming opinions, sharing information, and interacting
is what makes a society work.
Best Wishes,
KAC
--
KAC Website Design
Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.kacweb.com
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From: Jon Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Microsoft/Linux Conspiracy
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:54:32 -0400
"Cameron L. Spitzer" wrote:
>
> We already have two examples of Microsoft's strategy against its open source
> competition. The Front Page Extensions to the defacto standard protocols
> between Web authoring tools, Web servers, and Web browsers.
> Take a good long look at the patch Microsoft publishes for Apache.
> It's a trojan horse. If you install it your security is compromised.
> Does anyone believe this compromise is an *accident*?
It's possible. There is ample evidence that Microsoft is capable of
unknowingly (unthinkingly?) creating security hazards in the software
they distribute. One need not infer any malice on their part.
Jon
--
Jon Bloom, KE3Z
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Electronic Publications Manager (Software, CD-ROMs and Web site)
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From: Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: 28 Aug 1999 12:30:50 +0200
"Max Reason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Stephan Houben wrote in message ...
> >
> > Bottom line: you are the one who is redefining words here.
> > Greetings,
> > Stephan
>
> I respectfully disagree. Failing to know that someone else
> unnecessarily redefined familiar words without my knowledge
> DOES NOT constitute ME redefining words. I do not have time
> to learn dozens of constantly shifting sub-dialects in order to
> communicate with people doing different things.
But apparently you have time to post to this newsgroup.
Perhaps you should have lurked for some time.
Then you would have known this.
> Furthermore,
> it is inherently IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to formulate language
> to communicate ideas to large audiences of people with
> diverse backgrounds if people in each group redefine normal
> everyday words.
The audience in this case are three newsgroups in the comp.os.linux.*
hierarchy. For this audience, the term "free" as in "free software"
does NOT mean "zero-cost". Perhaps for some other audience, it does.
> And hey, we are not talking about extremely
> diverse here either - same kind of people (programmers),
> exact same language (XBasic), two different operating systems
> (Linux and Windows).
The difference in understanding of the word "free" is perhaps one of
the biggest differences between both groups. If you had lurked here
some time before you posted, you would have known this.
> If you extrapolate the consequences of
> constantly shifting niche-dialects generally, you end up with
> nobody understanding anything, and everyone thinking and
> acting like "it's us against them", and people arguing endlessly
> and needlessly about nothing. Eventually you end up with a
> society run by people who can say anything they want and
> later spin anything to meant anything else. Sound familiar?
No.
>
> Frankly, I don't have time to infer new lexicons every time
> I want to say something to someone. So I'll continue to rely
> on simple plain language. I mean no offense, I'm just busy.
But you do have time to write these elaborate postings?
No offence, but "adjusting" your wording for this newsgroup will
probably lead people to view it in a more positive way.
It�s your choice.
So, now that wasn�t a flame. I�m really growing up. ;-)
Greetings,
Stephan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Ridenour)
Subject: Dial-in server config problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:35:08 GMT
I'm trying to set up my RH Linux 5.0 server for dial-in. The
problem is it won't answer the phone. Here is a run down of what I've
done so far.
The modem is on serial port 2 of an Intel box. I use it as ttyS1.
The irq and address are normal.
I can dial out using minicom. I assume that should mean the device
no. and so on is alright.
Have put uugetty.ttyS1 in /etc/default. It is copied below, but is
the standard one from a book named RH Linux Secrets and is also very
similar to an example in /docs/examples.
Have put the following line into inittab and then run init q.
s0:235:respawn:/sbin/uugetty ttyS1 F38400 vt100
I have a hunch uugetty isn't reading the uugetty.ttyS1 file when it
initializes since the terminal ready lite comes on the modem even when
there is no uugetty.ttyS1 file present. Also, I changed one of the
params in the file to tell the modem to auto-answer and it didn't do
it.
Have made sure uugetty.ttyS1 is executable and am running it a root.
Can someone please tell me what is wrong?
Here is the uugetty.ttyS1 file.
# [ put this file in /etc/default/uugetty.<line> ]
#
# sample uugetty configuration file for a Hayes compatible modem to
allow
# incoming modem connections
#
# this config file sets up uugetty to answer with a WAITFOR string.
When
# using waitfor, it is necessary to specify INITLINE=cua?
# line to use to do initialization. All INIT, OFF, and WAITFOR
functions
# are handled on this line. If this line is not specified, any other
# program that wants to share the line (like kermit, uucp, seyon) will
# fail. This line will also be checked for lockfiles.
#
# format: <line> (without the /dev/)
INITLINE=cua1
ALTLOCK=cua1
# timeout to disconnect if idle...
TIMEOUT=60
# modem initialization string... Sets the modem to disable auto-answer
#
# format: <expect> <send> ... (chat sequence)
INIT="" \d+++\dAT\r OK\r\n ATH0\r OK\r\n
AT\sM0\sE1\sQ0\sV1\sX4\sS0=1\s&C1\s&S0r OK\r\n
# waitfor string... if this sequence of characters is received over
the line,
# a call is detected.
WAITFOR=RING
# this line is the connect chat sequence. This chat sequence is
performed
# after the WAITFOR string is found. The \A character automatically
sets
# the baudrate to the characters that are found, so if you get the
message
# CONNECT 2400, the baud rate is set to 2400 baud.
#
# format: <expect> <send> ... (chat sequence)
CONNECT="" ATA\r CONNECT\s\A
# this line sets the time to delay before sending the login banner
DELAY=1
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From: GA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,linux.redhat.help,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to I remove Lilo
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:48:49 +1000
use a dos boot disk
then
fdisk /mbr
BD wrote:
> I recently installed linux 5.2 and installed lilo. Well today I booted
> up my computer and linux partition and everything else (bar my C: drive
> for windoze) was gone.
> So now im stuck with lilo at bootup. How do I delete it?
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From: Oliver Gebele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What is a demand-paged-executable (QMAGIC)?
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:13:33 +0200
Hello everyone,
for my research project i try to to a test-calculation with nec
(numerical electromagnetics code)
after a some modification of the fortran source it actually compiled
and i get:
teog@Xpc64:~/tmp/nec > file nec
nec: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1, dynamically
linked
(uses shared libs), not stripped
then browsing throu the internet i found a linux-executable
teog@Xpc64:~/tmp/nec > file nec2.linux
nec2.linux: Linux/i386 demand-paged executable (QMAGIC)
so what is that? and how was it created?
the usual executables have ELF in the first bytes of the file
and i first did not believe the file would run at all,
but it did.
regards, oliver
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From: "Justin W. Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
tw.bbs.comp.linux,alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,info.ncsa-telnet,hk.comp.os.linux,hk.comp.os.unix,hk.comp.pc,alt.os.linux,comp.protocols.ppp,comp.modems,linuxworld.forums.articles.1999-08-linmo
Subject: Re: I've got a PCI Winmodem...
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:46:08 -0500
Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The PCI Winmodem is giving me headache... No matter how I configure my
> chatscript, the modem just doesn't seem to know how to communicate...
>
> I have heard that Winmodem is "partly" software driven... The fact that
> it works on Windows is that the Windows system provides a virtual
> machine that emulates some of the tasks a regular modem does... Am I
> right...
>
> If this is the case, is there anything I can install on my Linux box to
> make the Winmodem works?
Winmodems == Windows
Winmodems != Linux
--
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Justin W. Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.cyberpunks.net/
"Fascism is not defined by the number of its victims, but by the way it
kills them." -- Jean-Paul Sartre
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PPP, no chat
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 01:26:56 GMT
Matthew O. Persico writes:
> This cannot be chat'ed. I need to dial, interact and then start ppp with
> no dial and no chat, just ppp negotiation.
But it can be done with expect. There is an example in the ppp package.
On my Debian system it is /usr/doc/ppp/examples/scripts/secure-card.
Perhaps you could hack it to do what you want.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: slocate
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 09:31:36 -0500
I running Redhat 6.0 and slocate-1.4-7. I'm getting daily messages
e-mailed to me by the cron.daily/slocate.cron. Below is a small
excerpt.
[root@mail cron.daily]# ./slocate.cron
slocate: lstat: hosts.deny: Input/output error
slocate: lstat: ftpaccess: Input/output error
slocate: lstat: ftpconversions: Input/output error
slocate: lstat: ftpgroups: Input/output error
slocate: lstat: ftphosts: Input/output error
slocate: lstat: ftpusers: Input/output error
slocate: lstat: group: Input/output error
slocate: lstat: group-: Input/output error
I tried un-installing, re-installing, and verifying the slocate package.
I've read the man pages on slocate and lstat yet I really don't have a
clue why this is occurring. Can anyone help me out here??
Thanks -
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roving Reporter)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: File system repair after crash
Date: 28 Aug 1999 07:23:28 PDT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you're likely to buy a diesel generator, you may as well power the
house too. (-;
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:10:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Stuart R. Fuller) took an electronic fuchsia crayon to alt.os.linux
and scribbled:
>It depends on the size of your computer room. Have you seen the computer
>room, and the batteries and the diesel generator_S_ at CompuServe's facility in
>Columbus or Dublin, Ohio?
>
>FS ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: A 200bhp is a wee bit in excess don't you think?
>:
>: "Stuart R. Fuller" wrote:
>:
>: > Steve ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: > : Thanks for all the advice. I'm not sure that synchronizing my file systems
>: > : would be a huge help here, since I only have two -- the root and the /home.
>: >
>: > That's not what the "sync" option is. The "sync" option is to write data to
>: > the file system syncronously - that is, when a program writes to a file, write
>: > the data to the disk immediately, instead of writing it to a buffer and
>: > flushing the buffer to disk later.
>: >
>: > : I have no clue what a UPS is, however, so that seems to be the next area of
>: > : research for me!
>: >
>: > Uninterruptible Power Source. Anywhere from a little box with some batteries
>: > and an inverter, to a 200HP diesel generator.
--
Therese Shellabarger - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.concentric.net/~tlshell/ Shalom chaverot!
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Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:27:29 +0000
From: Warren Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] message on telnet?
NF Stevens wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (student) wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >I have a question on where I can find the message
> >when you telnet to a linux machine.
> >Specifically, the message is:
> >
> >
> >--------------------------
> >% telnet machine.edu
> >Trying x.x.x.x...
> >Connected to machine.edu.
> >Escape character is '^]'.
> >
> >Linux 2.2.5-15 (machine.edu) <------ *
> >
> >login:
> >--------------------------
> >
> >For the security reason, I need to replace * line.
> >The machine is running RedHat 6.x.
> >I searched several directories, but in vain.
> >Where is the message located?
>
> It's usually /etc/issue.net.
>
> Norman
But replacing issue.net won't do anything since it gets overwritten at
every boot. Look at /etc/rc.d/rc.local at the end of the file and start
from there.
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From: james <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: RE:floppy drives
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 14:30:58 GMT
Can't mount any of the file systems without knocking out my KDE links. Cud
someone with a workable system please show me a dump of their fstabs file ?
thanks
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