Linux-Misc Digest #568, Volume #24 Tue, 23 May 00 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Maciej Golebiewski)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (David Steuber)
Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ?? (Philipp Maier)
Different Win/Linux Macromedia Flash behaviour ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Novacom MIX ("Javier Intriago")
Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT (John Thompson)
Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD... (Thomas Nowak)
Is there a 3270 emulator available? ("Peet Grobler")
Moonlight3D ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Is there a 3270 emulator available? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
using linux as client (tue)
TCP/IP programming (Sagar A)
Re: mail all users (Marco BANO)
Multi Domains DNS ???? ("Benson Lei")
Linux port to Sony Playstation? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: how to enter a bug report against linux? ("Peter T. Breuer")
Capital Letter conversion ??? ("Benson Lei")
Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux (Johan Kullstam)
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From: Maciej Golebiewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:53:42 +0200
> >Since when? I always install RedHat as the base system (SuSe's layout of init
> >scripts etc. gives me a headache) and then install application rpms from SuSe.
> >Everything is working seamlessly (mostly).
>
> Every time I've tried to install an RH rpm on SuSE, it's given me
> dependency nightmares. SuSE use a different rpm naming convention, and
> apparently that's the cause :-(
I only tried this the other way around: SuSe rpms on RH. It does occasionally
complains about some dependencies, but then I just look up RH's equivalent,
install it and then force the SuSe rpm to install without regarding
dependencies.
So far it works great.
Maciej
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comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:00:00 GMT
"Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Every time I've tried to install an RH rpm on SuSE, it's given me
' dependency nightmares. SuSE use a different rpm naming convention, and
' apparently that's the cause :-(
R otten
P ackage
M anagement
Then again, InstallSheild, possibly the best installer in Windows
land, is even worse. Go figure.
Do people really have trouble with ./configure, make, make install?
It has _never_ been a problem for me. Maybe I am just lucky. Even
though I changed my compiler, libc, and libtools.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:00:01 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) writes:
' In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
' David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
'
' >Well, KDE _is_ GPL'd. That is a requirement of using Qt Free
' >Edition. I'm not sure that using the Lesser GPL is even an option.
' >
' >That option _does_ exist for GTK+ and GTK--.
' >
' >For myself, if I am going to produce free software, I want it to be
' >GPL. I don't want my work to be used in proprietary software unless I
' >get paid for it.
'
' This doesn't make a bit of sense from a user's perspective. You
' are saying that I can use the code only as long as it isn't linked
' to something else that I might happen to need that is under
' someone else's control. I don't think the internet would exist
' as we know it today had it not been for the reference BSD code
' that does allow use in proprietary works as well as additional
' free ones.
It makes no difference to an end user what the source license is.
The Regents of University of California, Berkley choose their
license. I get to choose mine.
If you want something that makes no sense, go to an NT box and look at
the file \\WINNT\System32\etc\SERVICES. You will see a document from
IANA that Microsoft has slapped their copyright on. They didn't
change a single character in the file. Tell me that makes sense.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:59:59 GMT
Someone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
' Good technologies:
' Computers. Sit in front, look at monitor, type and click -
'
' Bad Technologies:
'
' Linux,
Computers don't work without software. Windows can only loosely be
defined to work. But if that is what you want, nobody is going to
stop you.
If Windows is so great, why do you have to reboot when you change your
IP address?
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:59:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (David T. Blake) writes:
' Section 3b) (on modifications to QT)
' When modifications to the Software are released under this
' license, a non-exclusive royalty-free right is granted to the
' initial developer of the Software to distribute your modification.
The right is non-exlusive. That means everyone can get that right. I
think TrollTech is just trying to prevent forking of the Qt library
here.
' And section 5c) (on linking to QT)
' If the items are not available to the general public, and the
' initial developer of the Software requests a copy of the items,
' then you must supply one.
I believe you mean 6c here. Sounds a lot like GPL to me. How is
TrollTech going to find out about internal code? As far as they are
concerned, it doesn't exist. Remember, GPL requires that you make the
source code to derivitive works available.
If you create extensions and place them under GPL, the QPL can not
remove the GPL from those extensions. If TrollTech were to do that,
there would certainly be quite an outcry from the publishers of free
software.
As I said previously, if you don't like the Qt license, you can create
your own library. There is no one to stop you. You can also use one
of the other available libraries.
--
David Steuber | Hi! My name is David Steuber, and I am
NRA Member | a hoploholic.
All bits are significant. Some bits are more significant than others.
-- Charles Babbage Orwell
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From: Philipp Maier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I install sofware, must I use yast2 ??
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:04:53 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Rick wrote:
>
> Ho on earth can someone install software on a linux machine.....Do I have to
> use yast2..if yes, then how ? I use SuSE 6.4 the manual does not mention a
> word about it...
1. You have to use YaST, not Yast2. The manual does say something about
it, a whole chapter, if I'm not totally mistaken!!
2. Installing SuSE Linux has never been so easy. SuSE 6.4 is
definitively my favorite Linux distribution as most hardware is
automatically recognized, it comes with plenty of software and the
support database is great.
Sorry, just had to get if off my chest... I felt I had to express my
enthusiasm about the new SuSE after I upgraded my Linux system
yesterday... :-))
PM
--
Sylt, SuSE Linux, Maerklin mini-club, Psion Serie 5mx Pro & GPS:
http://www.philipp-maier.de
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Different Win/Linux Macromedia Flash behaviour
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:18:55 GMT
I've just published a Flash site for a firm. I require the user to have
Flash version 4 or higher, so the index.html contains:
1) a small Flash applet that uses some special functions of version 4,
and if these functions are successful it loads the real site
(flash.html).
2) a refresh meta tag: it waits 10 seconds, and if the flash applet was
not successful (i.e. user has version lower than 4) it loads a warning
page (noflash.html).
The problem is that this stuff works perfectly using Windows Netscape
version but not with the Linux one! It always loads the warning page!
Address of the site is http://www.cosmecsrl.com
Any hint?!? Thanks!
PS: you will notice that flash.html is a two frame page: one empty.html
(really empty) frame and one intro.html. This is to avoid Netscape from
showing vertical scroll bar.
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Before you buy.
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From: "Javier Intriago" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,es.comp.os.linux.misc,es.comp.os.linux.redes
Subject: Novacom MIX
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 09:29:32 GMT
Alguien ha usado en Linux con �xito el tel�fono Novacom MIX para conectarse
a Internet. Est� supuesto a ser como un modem externo conectado a un puerto
serial, no?
Si no se pudiera, VMware provee una buena comunicaci�n con los puertos
seriales?
Agradecer�a mucho si alguien me pudiera dar algunas indicaciones.
j.
Has somebody used succesfully the phone Novacom MIX to connect to Internet.
It is supposed to be used like an external modem connected to a serial port,
isn't it?
If it is not possible, VMware offers good communication with the serials
ports?
I will thank very much if somebody could give me indications.
j.
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: time sychronisation on Linux/NT
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 19:38:58 -0500
"Thaddeus L. Olczyk" wrote:
> I want to synchronise times on a LAN with some official site.
> I want to do this with both NT and Linux.
> Right now I am sychronising my NT/98 boxes using AnalogX.
> My connection through the net is an NT box.
> In the future that will be changed to a linux box ( when I get
> broadband ). Can anyone suggest software?
Just put "rdate -s tock.usno.navy.mil" in root's crontab and it
will synchronize with the atomic clock at the US Naval
Observatory. Or substitute and other public time server instead.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Thomas Nowak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,nf.comp.linux,redhat.general,linux.redhat.misc,aus.computers.linux,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Forgot my ROOT PASSWORD...
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 11:45:13 +0200
darner wrote:
>
> Tux wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Do I have to reinstall Linux if I forgot my root password, or is there
> > some way to get back into the system without doing this...???
> >
> > Thanks..
>
> If you start it with linux 1 at the LILO prompt there is a way to change
> the root password
This differnce from distribution to distribution. That works is:
starting linux with init=/bin/bash at the lilo-prompt. after booting you have a
root shell, but your root device is read only, so you must involke the command:
mount -o remount,rw /
and than a mount -a
now you can change your password !
Bye
Thomas
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From: "Peet Grobler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Is there a 3270 emulator available?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:09:49 +0200
Is there a free (opensource?) 3270 Terminal Emulator available anywhere?
Preferably one running in console, like telnet. Also, one for X won't bother
too much, just that X isn't working right now.
Please let me know.
Peet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Moonlight3D
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:12:43 GMT
Hello again,
maybe you have already visited my moonlight-sites. Now i've added
some interesing things:
1. i've added the 4 original tutorials from moonlight3d.org
2. There is a download section with moonlight.0.9.2Beta and
all tutorials for download
The link: http://www.moonlight.stpinkert.de
Ciao
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Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Is there a 3270 emulator available?
Date: 23 May 2000 10:27:21 GMT
In comp.unix.admin Peet Grobler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a free (opensource?) 3270 Terminal Emulator available anywhere?
How about x3270
ftp://crl.dec.com/pub/X11/contrib/applications/
ftp://ftp.eu.net/X11/contrib/applications/
is two sites that should have.
x3270 is included in the "ports" tree in freebsd, and yes i have
used it. It works.
At least 2 terminal based 3270/telnet emulators is also 'out there'
i might have a copy at home.
> Preferably one running in console, like telnet. Also, one for X won't bother
> too much, just that X isn't working right now.
> Please let me know.
> Peet
--
--
Peter H�kanson
Manet Networking (At the Riverside of Gothenburg, home of Volvo)
Sorry about my e-mail address, but i'm trying to keep spam out.
echo "peter (at) ipsec (dot) nu" | sed "s/(at)/@/g " | sed "s/(dot)/\./g"|sed "s/ //g"
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From: tue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: using linux as client
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:30:04 GMT
Hi ..i've just started to use linux seriously and i learned that i could
access the server in my uni by using my linux laptop...which i think pretty
cool .ok ... i can access most of the applications on the server such as
matlab , netscape , cfx (fluid dynamics software ) ... but i've encountered
trouble when i want to use patran ( a finite element modeler). i've
successfully open the application on my screen...but when i want to open a
file on the server , it just shutdown and gives few error messages , the
problem is i could not understand what it mean ...so anyone who got
experience with patran could help me . the error is like below
X Window Error: BadAtom (invalid Atom parameter)
Error type: 0
Display ptr: 0x14008bf0
Resource ID: 0
Serial Number: 4557
Error code: 5
Request code: 17
Minor code: 0
Call Stack Traceback..............unavailable
System shutdown due to signal SIGSEGV
Detail code = 4 Error address = 0x11bb7bc0
Call Stack Traceback..............unavailable
pls help ...thanks
--
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From: Sagar A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TCP/IP programming
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:30:05 GMT
Dear All,
I have a device with digital output.Now I need to transfer this data on a
TCP/IP network using a microprocessor with ethernet interface.How do I go
about it ?
Sagar
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From: Marco BANO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail all users
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:16:14 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Jason Kayarian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > Hello,
>
> > I'm running RH 5.2 and would like to send an e-mail message to every user on
> > the system without having to do each one individually. Any ideas? Is there a
> > command on the system for this or do I have to do it with a script. Would
> > anyone please mail me directly at my address, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> You can create an alias of all users, and use that.
> (Add it to /etc/aliases)
>
> --
> | |What to do if you find yourself stuck in a crack|
> | [EMAIL PROTECTED] |in the ground beneath a giant boulder, which you|
> | |can't move, with no hope of rescue. |
> | Andrew Halliwell BSc |Consider how lucky you are that life has been |
> | in |good to you so far... |
> | Computer Science | -The BOOK, Hitch-hiker's guide to the galaxy.|
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Benson Lei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Multi Domains DNS ????
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 18:34:03 -0700
Hi,
I would like to know how I can set up the DNS Server, so that I can host
many domains ( like an ISP ) ???
Thank you for your help.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux port to Sony Playstation?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:52:00 GMT
Is anyone working on a port to the Sony PS2? What a cool platform that
would be, eh?
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Before you buy.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: how to enter a bug report against linux?
Date: 23 May 2000 11:15:53 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc s@- wrote:
: In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
:>What a load of crap. Alan Cox is the bug track system.
: haha, what a joke.
: a person is a bug tracking system? wow! so if this person gets sick,
: the bug tracking system goes down?
Yep. Just like if your bugtracking server develops a virus.
Peter
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From: "Benson Lei" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Capital Letter conversion ???
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 19:44:09 -0700
Hi,
I would like to know which command is used to convert a file from upper case
into lower case.
Thank you for your help
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Subject: Re: Need ideas for university funded project for linux
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 12:04:16 GMT
David Steuber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> "Anthony W. Youngman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> ' Every time I've tried to install an RH rpm on SuSE, it's given me
> ' dependency nightmares. SuSE use a different rpm naming convention, and
> ' apparently that's the cause :-(
>
> R otten
> P ackage
> M anagement
>
> Then again, InstallSheild, possibly the best installer in Windows
> land, is even worse. Go figure.
>
> Do people really have trouble with ./configure, make, make install?
> It has _never_ been a problem for me. Maybe I am just lucky. Even
> though I changed my compiler, libc, and libtools.
the problem isn't with the install, it's when you go to remove or
upgrade. sometimes it's hard (or at least tedious) to figure out what
all things went where. then when you find a random file, you wonder
where it came from. rpm doesn't really solve the shared config
tweaks very well (like editing an init script to set something up
while leaving setup for other stuff). rpm is clunky and sometimes a
pain in the ass, but it's not completely useless to me.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Don't Fear the Penguin!
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