Linux-Misc Digest #589, Volume #21 Sun, 29 Aug 99 16:13:15 EDT
Contents:
Help: Using cdrdao and cdparanoia (Young4ert)
Setting up ATI Rage Fury with SVGATextMode (Didier Wiroth)
Re: Any Voodoo 3000 (OEM) drivers for Linux ? (Adrian Hands)
Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine (Rod Smith)
Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself (Johan Kullstam)
Netscape 4.51 aborts on starting Java (Lam Dang)
Realplayer G2 install help. (Dan Warren)
Shell Script ("Jeff Grossman")
Re: enlightenment a mem hog? (Adrian Hands)
Re: new to linux (Adrian Hands)
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Robin Becker)
Re: gs ljet4 kyocera FS-680 invalidfileaccess in --.outputpage-- (Frank Hahn)
Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board ("�ѻ�")
Re: Can Linux read NTFS? (Rod Smith)
Linux Software Archive + more (noname)
Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board (Paul Sherwin)
Re: Shell Script ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Qmail TEST.deliver (Subba Rao)
Re: Tcl/Tk. I want to learn it. (Jim Hill)
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From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help: Using cdrdao and cdparanoia
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:08:42 -0400
I have an Acer-6206A CD-RW drive on my Linux machine running SuSE-6.2
distro with cdrdao-1.1.2 and cdparanoia-III-alpha9.6.
For some obscured reason, the cdrdao only works with --driver
generic-mmc-raw mode. The questions I have are:
1. If I retrieve some audio files from some CDs using cdparanoia, should
I do it with "cdparanoia -p" since the cdrdao can only use a
generic-mmc-raw mode on my Acer drive.
2. In writing to a CD-R media, do I need to specify a pre-gap?
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.
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From: Didier Wiroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Setting up ATI Rage Fury with SVGATextMode
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:20:22 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey,
Can someone help me to setup the RAGE Fury 32mb graphic adapter(with
IIYAMA "Vision Master Pro 502" as Monitor)for the
/etc/TextMode file.
Here are some with technical infos:
http://www.atitech.com/ca_us/products/pc/rage_fury/index.html
The ati rage fury manual page:
http://support.atitech.com/manual_pdf/rage128.pdf
Thanks a lot for any reply
Didier
Luxembourg - EUROPE
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Any Voodoo 3000 (OEM) drivers for Linux ?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:18:13 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The XF86_SVGA at http://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS_vb_glibc.html is for
the XFree86 system. It replaces the SVGA server in XFree86.
Did you download the new 3.3.4 version of XFree86 ? Maybe it already
has the Voodoo3 stuff in it's SVGA ? The 3.3.2 and 3.3.3 versions that
shipped with RedHat 6.0 do NOT.
3.3.4 is the first rel to include support for the S3Trio3D. Maybe
Voodoo3 is in there too.
Sounds like the color depth setting is what you need though.
"Steven K. Iinuma" wrote:
>
> Thank you, but I downloaded the XFree86 server.
> Hmm..however, you gave me a clue.
> I'm going to keep Windoze since I will need it if I need to play
> certain games that don't run under Linux.
>
> Adrian Hands wrote:
> >
> > "Steven K. Iinuma" wrote:
> > My son has it working on his RedHat 6.0 system.
> > He downloaded a Voodoo3-enabled replacement for /usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_SVGA
> > from:
> >
> > http://glide.xxedgexx.com/3DfxRPMS_vb_glibc.html
> >
> > Also, make sure your color depth (bpp) isn't set too low.
> >
> > There, better now? Now you can remove that 98 partition.
> >
> > >
> > > I'm running a dual boot Win 98/RH 6.0 Linux with Kernel 2.2.5-22.
> > > I was wondering if there are any Linux drivers besides the generic
> > > XFree86 (3.3.3.5) drivers.
> > >
> > > When I run the GNOME desktop manager. The colors don't show right,
> > > especially if I run Netscape 4.51. For example web pages load, but
> > > the colors don't show up correctly.
> > >
> > > Other problems I have noticed the icons inside the desktop manager
> > > look grainy. I don't need any 3D or OpenGL support, but I would like
> > > it if my Voodoo 3000 acted like a normal video card by displaying
> > > the colors as they should be instead of Netscape showing up odd
> > > colors or my taskbar looking grainy. Even my the SiS 6326 card I
> > > had displayed my colors as they should be.
> > >
> > > Question: Is any anybody running RH 6.0 with Kernel 2.2.5-22 with
> > > either KDE or GNOME installed using the Voodoo 3000 AGP
> > > card. If so, what drivers are you using?
> > >
> > > When will 3dfx release Linux drivers!?!
> > > Ugh...I'm glad I still have Windoze, at least my card works there.
> > >
> > > Thank you for suggestions.
> > > --
> > > Please reply to the newsgroup. If you need to contact me via e-mail
> > > then remove "sd".
>
> --
> Please reply to the newsgroup. If you need to contact me via e-mail
> then remove "sd".
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 16:28:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hill) writes:
>
> Thing is, you can't form an opinion of a magazine from reading what a
> bunch of strangers have to say about it. I like Linux Journal. What
> does that mean to you? Nothing. For all you know, it might rank right
> behind Reader's Digest and TV Guide on my list of must-reads.
True, but if you give a REASON for your likes or dislikes, that's another
matter. For instance:
"I like Linux World because it's got a cute penguin on the cover." --
This opinion is easily dismissed, except perhaps by penguiphiliacs. ;-)
"I like Linux World because the writing is unusually concise and it's got
lots of articles useful to newbies." -- This opinion provides information
that helps you to evaluate whether it's a reasonable choice for other
people, not just the original poster.
"I have mixed feelings about Linux World, because the issues vary a lot in
quality." -- This is a bit vague, but provides information you can't get
by reading just one or two issues.
In the end, of course, each person does have to make the evaluation for
him- or herself, but others' opinions need not be valueless. A regular
reader can provide information that you can't get from spot-checking a few
issues -- is the quality consistent? Does the magazine run lots of
"theme" issues? Do they re-hash the same stories again and again? Etc.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que
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From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,aus.comuters.linux
Subject: Re: Communicator 4.6 kills itself
Date: 28 Aug 1999 11:48:54 -0400
??? writes:
> > > But their are issues I have with IE too.
> > > IE still can't fade-in a progressive jpeg.
> > > IE still has a problem with the cache that click the back button
> > > often makes IE reload the page from the Internet.
Johan Kullstam:
> > you forgot the big one --- there's still no internet explorer for
> > linux. i fail to see how it could be more advanced than netscape.
> > netscape exists for linux. IE does not. sounds like netscape beats
> > IE six ways 'til sunday.
"Jim Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Platform support and how advanced piece of software is are too
> different things. Just because it doesn't run on Linux doesn't
> effect that.
sure.
"Jim Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sounds more like you have a beef with Microsoft's strategy of
> favoring Windows platforms than with how good IE is where it exists.
we are in linux newsgroups. since IE doesn't run in linux, i have a
hard time understanding how i could benefit from it. so IE does a few
things nicer than netscape does. let netscape know. there's not much
we can do about it.
> Supercomputers are not less advanced because they don't run Linux.
they are if your goal is to run linux. no matter how sofisticated it
may be, software for supercomputers is useless to me if all i have is
a linux box.
--
johan kullstam
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From: Lam Dang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape 4.51 aborts on starting Java
Date: 29 Aug 1999 14:03:30 -0400
I have several Linux boxes running RedHat
6.0. All but one have no problem starting a
Java console or running applets. The one
that does just disappears as soon as the
message "Starting Java" comes up on the
status line at the bottom of the Netscape
window.
The good ones are from upgrading RH 5.2 to RH
6.0; the bad one is from a fresh installation
of RH 6.0. I've checked the Netscape files
to make sure they're the same on all boxes.
What am I missing here? Any suggestions will
be appreciated.
--
Lam Dang
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:45:39 -0400
From: Dan Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Realplayer G2 install help.
Has anyone been able to install the Realplayer G2 under Caldera 2.2? I
get an "error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.2.8: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory". libstdc++-2.9.0-4 is
installed though. Anysuggestions?
Dan Warren
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jeff Grossman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Shell Script
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:52:08 -0700
I am in the middle of writing a shell script. Is it possible to have an
if/then statement in a shell script?
Thanks,
Jeff
--
Jeff Grossman ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: enlightenment a mem hog?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:29:27 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try running "xosview" and
runing "top". In "top" press "M" to make it sort by memory usage.
On my system:
14.0 MB netscape
11.0 MB X
5.8 MB emacs
1.7 MB xterm
1.2 MB enlightenment
So, I couldn't call it a "hog" by any means.
Though I don't know how much of the 11MB attributed to X is for
enlightenment.
If you can, you might try restarting X every once in awhile (log-out and
back in).
I think it's possible for programs to fail to release memory allocated
through X when they finish. Then you end up with a memory leak.
I think 64 should be "just enough" but if you're doing a lot of
graphics, you might be pushing it. I've got 80 in mine and have been
itching to up it to 128 - prices are pretty low these days. What I
really need to do is up my swap...64MB seemed adequate when I set the
system up years ago with RH4.1 and 16MB ram...
Gaiko Kyofusho wrote:
>
> Hi, i just tried out enlightenment and it is beautiful, matter a fact it
> is hand down the best looking wm i have seen but i have a question or
> two. I use graphics programs (gimp xpaint povray etc) quite a bit and
> before i had no problems when i used a kde/fvwm combination but now i am
> using enlightemnet (with out kde or gnome) and when i start up thigns
> like gimp my mem gets sucked into some sort of black hole! is this
> something where i need to get more mem (i guess i need to anyway running
> with 64) or is there some tweaking i can do? the only tweaking i have
> done is getting rid of the unnessesary deamons but thats it.
>
> thanks for any help you might be able to give.
>
> -Gaiko
>
> Gaikokujin Kyofusho
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Adrian Hands <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: new to linux
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:56:47 -0400
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi, I am really new to linux, so I want to obtain more info. My system
> now is pentium II with two partition. One partition is 2.0 gig for
> win95 and MSDOS, the other partition 1.0 gig for winNT. Both partitions
> are FAT. Where can I download linux and what version should I use
> because there are many different linux to me? Is it hard to install
> linux? I really appreciate your help.
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
If you've got FAST internet connection (NOT a dialup) installing by FTP
works fine.
I've only done this with RedHat.
For RH6.0 :
First, pick a mirror from http://www.redhat.com/mirrors.html .
You need to make some room on your hd for Linux.
You've probably already got the whole thing allocated to ms-win(s),
so you'll need to shrink an ms-win partition.
If you already have re-partitioning software that can do this, go ahead.
If you don't already have software for this download fips.exe from your
RH mirror
(.../redhat/current/i386/dosutils/fips.exe).
Then use the DEFRAG program included with windows to get your partition
in a state where it can be shrunk (fips chops off the end, so you have
to use defrag to get all the files moved to the beginning).
Run FIPS.EXE and use the up/down arrows to get the size how you want it.
I think LILO (the linux boot loader) will give you trouble if the
beginning cylinder number for linux is >= 1024, but maybe that's fixed
by now ? To be safe, try to make Linux begin somewhere before 1024.
Then grab the rawrite.exe program from the same dosutils directory and
the "bootnet.img" file (.../redhat/current/i386/images/bootnet.img).
Note that bootnet.img is exactly 1.4MB - the same size as a floppy.
What you do here is make a boot floppy by using rawrite.exe to copy the
image file to a flopppy.
"bootnet.img" is the boot floppy for installing via FTP.
"boot.img" is the boot floppy for installing from CD-ROM.
Once you've made your boot floppy, boot from it!
Follow the directions - they'll get you there!
You might breeze through with no problems, but if you do get stuck, the
most common trouble spots are:
partioning the HD and setting up X.
Also, for install by FTP you'll need to know the standard TCP/IP setup
stuff for your LAN (your IP address, netmask, default gateway, primary
name server).
As far as partioning the HD goes, you'll need two partions: root and
swap. I'd put root first to make sure it's below cyl 1024. Allocate a
swap partion of 128 - 256 MB.
Make sure you set it to mount your root partion as "/".
There's two tools offered for setting up the partitions: fdisk and disk
druid.
Pick either. You can back up and choose the other or start over if you
get stuck.
You're ms-win partition shows up here, so be aware and don't delete it
(unless you're ready to toss ms).
If you have a real new video card S3Trio3D or Voodoo3, the X-server that
comes with RH6.0 doesn't really have the proper support. You could skip
installing and configuring X at this point and install XFree86 3.3.3 or
3.3.4 after you've got linux up and running.
3.3.3 is available from the mirror
(.../redhat/updates/current/i386/*.rpm).
3.3.4 is necessary to support the two cards listed above.
You can get 3.3.4 from http://www.xfree86.org or one of it's mirrors.
I've always put 3.3.2 on, upgraded to 3.3.3 and then pulled down what I
needed from 3.3.4.
Durring the X install/config there's a point when it asks you if you
want "probe".
I think it might default to "No".
I ALWAYS pick YES here.
If you don't have a high-speed connection, you definately should get a
CD.
You can do-the-right-thing and buy a full distribution for your first
go-round from a local bookstore for $50-$99 bucks which gets you several
CDs and at least one manual.
Or you can order the $ 1.98 CD from http://www.linuxmall.com or
http://www.cheapbytes.com. The two buck solution doesn't get you any
manual though.
I've installed RH and SuSE (sue-zuh). They're both nice. SuSE is said
to be easier for getting X up and running.
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From: Robin Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:59:02 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hans
Wolters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> found a keyboard
> and could not resist the temptation ....
>
>.......................
>
>>>3. When I try to upgrade to kernel 2.2.11, the boot warning message is
>>>like 'System map don't match'. Does RH force their customers only stick
>>>with Kernel 2.2.5? Really stupid idea.
>>
>>Ignore that message, its not important.
>
>Don't, copy you're new System.map to the correct location.
>
>Hans
>
>...........
>
does anyone know if the links in /boot are important? My install made
/boot a separate volume so the RH setup can't access anything in /boot
until well on into the boot process. I think the links are therefore
irrelevant, but can't be certain that someone isn't using them.
I also notice that kerneld etc are still in /sbin. Surely 2.2 doesn't
need these.
I find that a pain anyhow as I would have thought 20Mb is enough for a
minimal root.
RH is a bit like M$ in cavalierly using up my resources.
--
Robin Becker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frank Hahn)
Subject: Re: gs ljet4 kyocera FS-680 invalidfileaccess in --.outputpage--
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:53:42 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 03:16:26 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>As far as I can tell, gs works well when called from ghostview, or
>when called from command line. ( gs -dSAFER test.ps ) - I get
>to read the file !
>
>However, I can't get it to print to my kyocera FS-680 printer, ( which
>emulates PCL5, and therefore should work with -sDEVICE=ljet4 ).
>
>I have tracked the problem a bit - when I run
> gs -sDEVICE=ljet4 -dSAFER -sOutputFile=/dev/lp0 test.ps
>the printer just chokes, prints a bit of garbage, and gs dies with
>the message:
>Error: /invalidfileaccess in --.outputpage--
>
[Snipped]
I think you need to take a look at the man page for gs. I don't
think your syntax is correct for getting the output to the printer.
I don't know off hand what the correct command is. Maybe something
like:
gs -sDEVICE=ljet4 -dSAFER -sOutputFile=\|cat > /dev/lp0 test.ps
On my system with an Epson Stylus 500, I was able to use the following:
gs -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r360x360 -sDEVICE=stcolor -sOutputCode=plain
-dMicroweave -sOutputFile=\|cat > /dev/lp0 stcolor.ps golfer.ps
Note: The above is one line.
--
Frank Hahn
The Army needs leaders the way a foot needs a big toe.
-- Bill Murray
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From: "�ѻ�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:33:18 +0800
Mandrake is for 586.
--
Leo
Gavin Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In comp.os.linux.misc Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: Can Linux read NTFS?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:07:43 GMT
[Posted and mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And verily, didst Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
>> NT 4.0, by itself, will not read FAT32 (at least as of SP3. I've not
>> looked at SP4 or SP5). If memory serves, SysInternals has a driver
>> available for FAT32; they sell a r/w version, and may have a
>> downloadable r-only driver. Silly, isn't it?
>
> You could say that... I would have been a little more contemptuous though...
> (How the hell is it supposed to read user floppies from win9x machines?)
Floppies aren't written in FAT-32; they're written in FAT-12. Windows NT
can handle both FAT-12 and FAT-16 just fine, including VFAT extensions.
--
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://members.bellatlantic.net/~smithrod
Author of _Special Edition Using Corel WordPerfect 8 for Linux_, from Que
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (noname)
Subject: Linux Software Archive + more
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 19:09:34 GMT
Hi
http://mylinuxworld.virtualave.net
includes a new Linux Help Forum for beginners and advanced users. This
forum is still new, so start posting. But the main feature of this
site is its software archive for Linux.
Check out this site now.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:45:16 GMT
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:33:18 +0800, "�ѻ�" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Mandrake is for 586.
>
No, it's _optimized_ for a 586. It'll run on any 32 bit processor,
even a 386. The stock kernel is built without math coprocessor
software emulation, though, so you need a 486DX or better, or an
80387.
That said, it's difficult to install a small system using RedHat or
Mandrake - you may be better off with Slackware.
Best regards, Paul
Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.telinco.co.uk/psherwin/index.htm
Mobile +44 (0)7931 578334 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Shell Script
Date: 29 Aug 1999 19:30:37 GMT
Jeff Grossman wrote:
>
> I am in the middle of writing a shell script. Is it possible to have an
> if/then statement in a shell script?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
Yes. Example program below:
#!/bin/bash
if [ $1 ]
then
echo hello
else
echo goodbye
fi
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:33:57 -0400
From: Subba Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Qmail TEST.deliver
I am at the point of testing my Qmail.
After executing the step 9. in INSTALL, I read through
the instructions in TEST.deliver.
The syslog does have an "status" entry for qmail.
However the processes listing shows only
qmail-lspawn ./Mailbox
The following processes are not present as mentioned in
the TEST.deliver document
qmail-rspawn
qmail-clean
splogger
This is the "rc" file from /var/qmail directory
==========================================
#!/bin/sh
# Using splogger to send the log through syslog.
# Using qmail-local to deliver messages to ~/Mailbox by default.
exec env - PATH="/var/qmail/bin:$PATH" \
qmail-start ./Mailbox splogger qmail
==========================================
I did not make any changes to this file.
How can I get qmail testing to work? What did I miss?
I followed all the instructions in INSTALL* docs.
Thanks for any help.
Subba Rao
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://pws.prserv.net/truemax/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Hill)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Tcl/Tk. I want to learn it.
Date: 29 Aug 1999 18:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Steve D. Perkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Haha... before you start learning a new language it'd be more
>useful to master a good spell-checker, and perhaps read over a
>primer on proper grammer and punctuation! <smile>
^^^^^^^
Boy, that's gotta be embarrassing. (Or is that just the gratuitous
spelling error in a spelling flame?) <grin>
>FreeWrap is a freeware program that can KIND of be
>considered a "compiler".
Interesting; I'll have to take a look at that. Thanks for the pointers
even though they were for someone else's benefit.
Jim
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.swcp.com/~jimhill/
Death closes all; but something ere the end,
Some work of noble note, may yet be done,
Not unbecoming men that strove with Gods.
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