Linux-Misc Digest #589, Volume #25 Sun, 27 Aug 00 23:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Heretic2 on Linux. (Tim Ryan)
[HELP] How to configure SoundBlaster PCI 128 ("Lam Dang")
Re: kernel compiles root device as (3,65); boots for (3,41) (xavian anderson
macpherson)
Re: Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2) (John-Paul Stewart)
urgent problem of fetchmail from MS exchange server (Alex Song)
Re: Disk clone redux (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
bandwidth administration (sj)
Re: linux device driver book (Cannon Fodder)
Re: tranfering boot/root disk to higher capacity format (Dances With Crows)
Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows ("paul snow")
Re: kernel compiles root device as (3,65); boots for (3,41) (Alexander Viro)
Re: ALSA !? Angry Latins Stomp Ants??? (Scott Morgan)
CDRW UDF (Robert E Glacken)
Re: CDRW UDF (Dances With Crows)
Amateur Hacker Backdoors Thwarted By Upgrade? (Wretch)
Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where? (Andrew)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Ryan)
Subject: Re: Heretic2 on Linux.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:12:10 GMT
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 05:34:57 -0400, Nicholas Kelleher wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Ihave the original Window$ Heretic2 CD and the Linux Heretic2 Demo.
>> Is there any way to make the Linux Demo work as the complete Heretic2
>> version, adding the data files from the Win version ?? The demo runs
>> pretty well under Linux, 3D acelerated :)
>>
>> Thank you very much for any hint.
>>
>> Please answer to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> bye.
>
>I kind of doubt it. Loki is a money grubbing company intent on
>monopolizing linux game distribution. their excuse is that they want to
>get a grasp on the linux gaming market. but if you ask me, it's pure
>profit motive. Bastards.
>
>
How they supposed to stay in business and give us more games on Linux if
they don't make a profit?
--
Tim Ryan
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Lam Dang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [HELP] How to configure SoundBlaster PCI 128
Date: 27 Aug 2000 20:28:12 -0400
I just upgraded to a new motherboard (ASUS
A7V) which doesn't have any ISA slot. For
sound, I got a SoundBlaster PCI 128. It
works with Windows NT. Now I want to set it
up for Linux (RedHat 6.2).
I took a quick look but didn't find any
documentation on the RedHat CD. Any pointers
will be appreciated.
--
Lam Dang
dangit AT ix DOT netcom DOT com
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From: xavian anderson macpherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: kernel compiles root device as (3,65); boots for (3,41)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:29:24 GMT
M. Buchenrieder wrote:
>
>
> [Note FollowUp-To: header]
>
> xavian anderson macpherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> [...]
>
> >one of the things that i've found out is that suse uses a different file
> >directory structure than some of the other distributions,
>
> AFAIK, the SuSE directory structure is actually much stricter
> following the FSSTND than RedHat.
>
> >and for this
> >reason, i nolonger recommend it to anyone interested in moving to linux
> >from windows.
>
> Pardon me, but even if SuSE's way of putting things _here_ instead
> of _there_ was not conforming to the FSSTND, this would mean
> absolutely nothing to anyone moving from Win* to Linux.
>
> >it is basically like moving from an overtly proprietary
> >system, to one that is subvertly proprietary. for this rewason, i am
> >fairly certain that i will migrate to the WALNUTCREEK FreeBSD-4.0
powerpak
> >come september 1rst.
>
> And this has to do with Linux - what?
>
> >anyway, back to the main subject. how do i set the root device
correctly,
>
> [...]
>
> man rdev
> man lilo.conf
>
> Michael
> --
> Michael Buchenrieder * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *
http://www.muc.de/~mibu
> Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
> Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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I HAD ALREADY READ THE MAN RDEV. IT DID NOT TELL ME HOW TO SET THE DEVICE
FROM 3,41 TO 3,65 OR REVERSE. if you know the exact code to fix this, give
it to me. i want to see what is currently loaded at root-device 3,41. i
want to verify that it is my vmlinuz.suse, as it does not produce this
error when i start the system with it. can two different kernels occupy
the same root-device?
--
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http://www.help.com/
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From: John-Paul Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Advice sought, (new user coming from OS/2)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:34:28 GMT
Robert Morelli wrote:
>
> I guess I'd like to know 2 things. a) OS/2 has very good multitasking. I've heard
>> claims to the same effect about Linux, but my personal experience so far doesn't >
>confirm them. Do I need to take special care to avoid taxing Linux's multitasking >
>abilities?
I have no idea how well OS/2 multitasks, but I've found that Linux is extremely
stable no matter what I throw at it with one exception: if it runs out of
memory (i.e, neither real RAM nor swap space available) then it gets all flakey.
That's when behaviour gets unpredictable on my machine--it may just log me out,
it may spontaneously reboot, it may just totally freeze. So, give yourself a
lot of swap space and go nuts!
J-P Stewart
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From: Alex Song <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: urgent problem of fetchmail from MS exchange server
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 01:35:01 GMT
Hi, All,
This is my first time to use the fetchmail to get the email from our
exchange mail server. and it's failed. Could anyone give some help?
Thank you very much.
Alex
the information is here: # fetchmail -vv Enter password for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: fetchmail: 5.5.1 querying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (protocol
IMAP) at Fri, 25 Aug 2000 17:31:29 -0800 (GMT+8) fetchmail: IMAP< * OK
Microsoft Exchange IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.2652.42 (NTEX) ready
fetchmail: IMAP> A0001 CAPABILITY fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4
IMAP4rev1 IDLE LITERAL+ LOGIN-REFERRALS MAILBOX-REFERRALS NAMESPACE AUTH=NTLM
fetchmail: IMAP< A0001 OK CAPABILITY completed. fetchmail: Protocol
identified as IMAP4 rev 1 fetchmail: NTLM authentication is supported
fetchmail: IMAP> A0002 AUTHENTICATE NTLM fetchmail: IMAP< + NTLM Request:
Ident = NTLMSSP mType = 1 Flags = 0000b207 User = alexsong Domain =
fetchmail: IMAP> TlRMTVNTUAABAAAAB7IAAAgACAAgAAAAAAAAAAgAAABhbGV4c29uZw==
fetchmail: IMAP< +
TlRMTVNTUAACAAAADAAMADAAAAAFggEAIj4jYmDZM+wAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA8AAAATABUAEUAVQBDA
FMA NTLM Challenge: Ident = NTLMSSP mType = 2 Domain = XXXXXX Flags =
00018205 Challenge = 22 3e 23 62 60 d9 33 ec NTLM Response: Ident = NTLMSSP
mType = 3 LmResp = bd 0f 11 8e be e0 2f 22 f3 3f ad 11 ce 1e d4 22 84 04 98
ec f2 f5 53 6e NTResp = 34 c2 ad f0 b5 d5 63 b9 fb ce 84 dc f6 a1 d1 17 b8
a4 75 17 97 e0 7e ce Domain = XXXXXX User = alexsong Wks = alexsong sKey
= Flags = 00018205 fetchmail: IMAP>
TlRMTVNTUAADAAAAGAAYAEAAAAAYABgAWAAAAAwADABwAAAAEAAQAHwAAAAQABAAjAAAAAAAAABcA
AAABYIBAL0PEY6+4C8i8z+tEc4e1CKEBJjs8vVTbjTCrfC11WO5+86E3Pah0Re4pHUXl+B+zkwAVA
BFAFUAQwBTAGEAbABlAHgAcwBvAG4AZwBhAGwAZQB4AHMAbwBuAGcA fetchmail: IMAP< A0002
NO Logon failure fetchmail: Authorization failure on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: IMAP> A0003 LOGOUT fetchmail: IMAP< * BYE Microsoft Exchange
IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.2652.42 signing off fetchmail: IMAP< A0003 OK
LOGOUT completed. fetchmail: authorization error while fetching from
xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx fetchmail: Query status=3 (AUTHFAIL) fetchmail: Deleting
fetchids file. fetchmail: normal termination, status 3 fetchmail: Deleting
fetchids file.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk clone redux
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 21:55:53 -0400
MH wrote:
> Following the advice given in a response to someone else's question
> about cloning a system disk, I was delighted to find that a simple cp
> /dev/sda /dev/sdb command creates a perfect, bootable backup system
> drive (assuming the drives are physically identical). Very cool. Just
> enter the above command in cron and run it daily and you have the best
> backup solution there is unless you need off-site storage, IMO. It's
> faster, more reliable, and cheaper than tape, not to mention a helluva
> lot easier if you need to restore your system rather than simply
> restoring data.
>
> I tried using the same technique on a dual-boot system, and I think it
> worked, since the cloned image of the Windows partition appears as drive
> D: under Windows. However, drive D: does not appear in fdisk (DOS
> version), which seems odd. Also, I cannot mount any of the Linux
> partitions from the cloned drive, which also seems odd. Also, df and
> fdisk don't report the partitions correctly.
>
> When I have some time, I'll physically disable my system drive,
> re-jumper the clone drive, and attempt a boot to see if the clone is
> actually usable.
> --
> "The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal."
>
> --Aristotle
I do not think I care for it; I still prefer (DDS) tapes. The tapes are
cheaper, easier to remove from my machine, and take up far less room in my
safe deposit box. You may underestimate the need for off site storage.
IMAO, everyone who needs any backups at all needs off site storage for (at
least some of) them.
We ran about a dozen VAX-11/780s and PDP-11/70s where I used to work. Each
had three removeable pack disk drives. We would back up the other drives to
the third hard drive of each machine each night and remove them first thing
in the morning, replacing it with another. Good thing we did that. One
weekend, we got a head crash on one of the drives. A REALLY BAD head crash.
The head not only ground off all the oxide from the aluminum platter, it
cut a deep groove in the aluminum disk substrate. THe ensuing dust crashed
the other 19 heads on that drive with similar results. The dust from that
got out of that drive into another, and that crashed, too. The dust from
that drive ... . When we came in Monday morning, all the machines were
crashed, most of the disk drives were dead but screaming, and even the
magnetic heads (steel or ferrite, copper windings, etc.) were ground off
right down to the support spring blades. It took DEC a while to rebuild all
those drives. One of the problems was a head shortage. Good thing we
removed the disk packs to another room for storage. Otherwise over a
hundred people would have spent many months doing restores. This way they
lost only about a week while DEC was rebuilding the drives.
So for your method to work, you would need hot swappable hard drives, and
keep the backup drives in another location. Not ideal, IMAO.
As far as restoring your system, consider H.P.'s One Button Disaster
Recovery system for their DDS tape drives (such as I have on this
machine): http://www.hp.com/tape/pdf/obdr_ver.pdf After the disaster, you
just replace your hard drives, power on the system holding down the eject
button on the tape drive, and when power is up, place the tape in the
drive. It switches to emulate a cd-rom so the system boots from the tape.
On the tape is everything you backed up, including all configuration files
and everything in /dev . It is still no fun, but better than looking at out
of date log books and booting from out of date floppies and then hoping
your sysadmin can remember all the changes... .
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\
^^-^^ 3:53pm up 18 days, 23:23, 3 users, load average: 1.17, 1.21, 1.09
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From: sj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: bandwidth administration
Date: 28 Aug 2000 01:57:41 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi:
We use linux for virtual hosting service to our customers. There is only
a 10MB
NIC installed on the sparc server , the server runs with apache ,
sendmail, proftpd
for virtual host service.
Now , I want to guanartee the bandwidth available for a special virtual
site, that is :
if a virtual site named : www.my.com located on this host, it is
guaranteed to give
1MB bandwith , for another site named www.someone.com a bandwidth of
256KB
is allowed.
How can that be configed on linux virtual host server?
( As I know, some company's product which use linux can provide such
function )
Thanks in advance.
James shen
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Cannon Fodder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux device driver book
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 02:08:27 GMT
On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Garry Knight wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Hi, > >What is
> the best book I can find on learning to write
> linux >device drivers. I am newbie on this and
> I expect something >too compicated.
>
> I don't know about the best one, but there's a
> book called something like "Writing Linux
> Device Drivers" which I believe Amazon carry.
Yes, I have that book too. Here's the exact specs
on it.
Title: Linux Device Drivers
Author: Alessandro Rubini
ISBN: 1-56592-292-1
Publisher: www.oreilly.com
Hope This Helps
Luke
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: tranfering boot/root disk to higher capacity format
Date: 28 Aug 2000 02:21:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 17:00:05 -0700, mrauscher wrote:
>Okay, this should be simple, but I'm obviously missing something. I've
>got a mini-Linux distribution on a single 1.44M floppy and I'd like to
>get more space on the diskette to add some additional programs, but
>alas, the diskette is nearly full. The obvious solution is to move the
>distro to a higher capacity format -- like 1680 or 1722 -- but the
>process for doing this seemingly trivial task is eluding me. I've tried
>to extract what I need from the Bootdisk-HOWTO but the best I end up
>with is a diskette filled with garbage directories and files.
>
>Creating the higher capacity devices and formatting the diskettes is not
>the problem; it's transfering the files from the bootdisk to the newly
>formatted one so that I end up with another bootdisk is what has me
>stymied.
I found the following URL rather helpful when messing with bootdisks.
Keep in mind that most root/boot disks don't actually use a filesystem
for much; they have a kernel image, a lilo.conf, and a compressed
RAMdisk file. You can use the information contained within the HOWTO to
make a 2-disk set as well, so you could have a 1722K compressed RAMdisk
image with more stuff than a regular root/boot disk (the kernel image
takes up about 500K, usually.)
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/x712.html
http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Bootdisk-HOWTO/
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: "paul snow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.text.xml,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux, XML, and assalting Windows
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 02:28:10 GMT
Bob Hauck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2000 18:13:31 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >What is the deal here? I write a post or two that claims that we can
> >manage computer systems directly, on their storage, outside the
> >abstractions of the Operating Systems and their Services.
>
> You've got it exactly backwards. Raw storage is just numbered blocks
> on the disk. Filesystems are an abstraction created by the OS. There
> is no "structured storage" without the OS. Without the OS, the highest
> leve of abstraction is about at the level of instructing the SCSI
> controller to fetch block 123456 from device 0 on buss 0. Managing
> storage is one of the most important tasks of the OS, why re-create it
> inside your installation tool? What does that have to do with making
> installation and system management easier?
No, you have it backwards. Where is the OS when your computer is off? You
got no processor, you got no memory, you got no I/O... All you have is
storage (your system's eproms and its the disk).
You turn your computer on. Where does the OS come from? Magic? Or the
storage in your computer system? This isn't a chicken and the egg problem.
The OS in its initial install constructs most of the file system. But one
don't *have* to use the OS to contstruct the file system. It can be
constructed from other platforms, disk images, network downloads, etc.
In fact, given the same file system (no matter how it was constructed), you
get the same behavior once the computer is turned on.
That is because your file system is nothing more than a persistent data
structure. Nothing more. No magic.
But your file system is also the data structure that defines your OS and its
applications. All the abstractions come into existence only after your
software is loaded into memory from these data structures, and your software
begins to run.
If you can't see this, there is no point in discussing what one can do by
managing a computer system by managing its storage as structured data. You
have to let go of this magical idea that a file system doesn't exist without
the operating system that it defines.
Then we can talk about how we can better manage this data structure that is
the storage in a computer system.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: kernel compiles root device as (3,65); boots for (3,41)
Date: 27 Aug 2000 22:27:38 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
xavian anderson macpherson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I HAD ALREADY READ THE MAN RDEV. IT DID NOT TELL ME HOW TO SET THE DEVICE
Fix your CapsLock, will you?
>FROM 3,41 TO 3,65 OR REVERSE. if you know the exact code to fix this, give
0x41 == 65.
>it to me. i want to see what is currently loaded at root-device 3,41. i
>want to verify that it is my vmlinuz.suse, as it does not produce this
>error when i start the system with it. can two different kernels occupy
>the same root-device?
They don't occupy it. Kernel image contains a variable that holds a device
number. When you boot the kernel it looks into that variable and uses its
value to decide where to get the root filesystem. It couldn't care less
whether some files happen to contain other kernel images or not, let alone
what value that variable has in said files.
Same goes for FreeBSD, BTW. Kernel may be loaded from the place that has
nothing with root filesystem - from the network, for one thing.
If you want to check which version of the kernel is currently running -
man uname.
PS: there is some odd pleasure in seeing bloody powerlusers with
attitude going to became an embarrasment to FreeBSD folks. I realize
that it's not nice, but they had it coming. After quite a few
years of making fun of the fact that your ilk prefered to pester
us with your, erm, attention... Well, one can tempt the fate only that
many times.
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Morgan)
Subject: Re: ALSA !? Angry Latins Stomp Ants???
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 02:35:33 GMT
argh!
but the thing is... i dont see the ymfpci listed when i run alsaconf!
and i dont know what args to pass it with insmod :o(
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert E Glacken)
Subject: CDRW UDF
Date: 28 Aug 2000 02:26:32 GMT
Using a HP 8150i, one can write/read to CDRWs after UDF formatting the CD
under Win98. Very simple file writing/reading.
Does Linux understand UDF (universal drive format)?
There is no entry for UDF in the SUSE 6.3 manual.
--
Robert E Glacken
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: CDRW UDF
Date: 28 Aug 2000 02:54:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 28 Aug 2000 02:26:32 GMT, Robert E Glacken wrote:
>Using a HP 8150i, one can write/read to CDRWs after UDF formatting the CD
>under Win98. Very simple file writing/reading.
>Does Linux understand UDF (universal drive format)?
Tried Google?
http://www.trylinux.com/projects/udf/index.html
Reading is supported; you must patch the kernel. Writing is in a very
experimental state, and will probably not be end-user transparent for a
while if ever, because of the way in which Linux handles CD-ROM-like
devices.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Those who do not understand Unix are
http://www.brainbench.com / condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
=============================/ ==Henry Spencer
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From: Wretch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Amateur Hacker Backdoors Thwarted By Upgrade?
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 23:06:58 -0400
Hello. I'm new to dealing with Linux security issues, and
I recently had a break-in from a seemingly amateur hacker.
My questions pertain to any backdoors that the hacker might
have created, and whether it is *likely* (given that the
hacker is somewhat of a rookie) that an OS upgrade will destroy it.
The address that the hacker ftp'd to numerous times, as indicated by
the bash history files, was "dhcelite.hypermart.net," who you
will see is a classic jive trash talking dorky whiteboy who
fancies himself a computer gangster. Has anybody out there
had trouble with this punk as well?
NOW, on to my question:
===============================================
First, a few details about what I was running:
===============================================
Redhat Linux 6.0
i686 Intel Pentium II
telnet,ftp,pop-3 are usually running (as specified in inetd.conf)
=======================================
What happened
=======================================
Hacker took advantage of the well-known
"buffer overflow" and gained root access.
Hacker ran a program called "eggdrop" which
installs an IRC-bot for group chats.
Also found running at various times were the
following programs:
"remote.c" --> Allows backdoor access (I think)
"t666.c"
"ns.c --> A "trinoo" daemon which I think is used
in denial of service attacks
Hacker also modified some files like "rc.local" so
that the naughty "remote.c" and "t666.c" programs
would run upon each reboot.
==========================================
What I've Done
===========================================
Upgraded to Redhat Linux 6.2, and employed all
the current bug fixes and updates found at
the Redhat site. The kernel is upgraded to
2.2.16-3.
Also, I now only use secure shell logins
and file transfers, something I wasn't
doing before the hack.
===========================================
My Question
===========================================
Is it *likely* that the upgrade, plus the
shutting off of the telnet and ftp services, is
good enough to keep out the amateur hacker?
Do amateur hacks usually install backdoors
in such a way that they don't get written over
in an upgrade of the binaries?
MUCH thanks for any help!
AC
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Subject: Re: Operating system file name restrictions? Where?
From: Andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.programmer.help,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,microsoft.public.windowsnt.misc
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2000 03:08:14 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Karsten Wutzke
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm writing a Java (hooray) application where I'm generating plain ASCII
> files and I want the user to be able to choose whether s/he wants a
> Unix, Windows Joliet, MS-DOS or Mac file to be generated (it will also
> run on any of these platforms). It's not only about the carriage
> returns, but also about which characters are forbidden in file names AND
> how many characters long a file name and its extension can be at
> maximum, e.g. for DOS it's 8.3. Luckily Windows tells me that when
> creating an absolutely invalid filename, like /�&%(�%&)", the characters
> \ / : * ? " < > and | are forbidden, but what's the maximum filename
> length...? What about Linux or Unix in general? Don't they have
> different file naming systems? What were they based on...Minix file
> system? Don't remember... What about the Mac?
>
> Can anyone explain WHY some characters are prohibited?
Windows I think nit's 255..
mac it's 31 and the only thing you can't use is the ':'.. of course, if
you do use the ':' the Mac will convert it to a '-' without even an
error message.
The : is used as a path seperator on the mac instead of say the '/'..
although in Mac experience wiht Mac Java you can alsu use the '/' to
dilimanate paths.. it makes dealing with files that have '/' in their
names really confusing..
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