Linux-Misc Digest #592, Volume #21 Sun, 29 Aug 99 20:13:09 EDT
Contents:
Re: Best language for graphical apps? ("Adam C. Emerson")
Re: What on earth is 'bing'? (Tiaan van Aardt)
Re: Netscape not connecting to the Internet (Doval Hulsopple)
Re: Best language for graphical apps? (Phil Hunt)
Re: [Q] message on telnet? (Bob Martin)
Re: What on earth is 'bing'? (Tiaan van Aardt)
Re: why not C++? (Don Waugaman)
Re: root consoles ("Benedikt Hochstrasser")
Re: Dumb ? diff between Hedwig and Venus (Lev Babiev)
Re: quick tar question (Spike!)
Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions) (Kai Henningsen)
Re: What script executes before X11 starts? (Joshua Li)
Re: Yamaha DS-XG sound Card - Help! (Michael Malone)
HP PPA printer language, Liunux supported??? (Jeff PIerce)
Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks! (Big Daddy)
Re: POP3 server. (Rado Faletic)
Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board (Richard L. Gabriel)
Re: More Netscape errors. (Anita Lewis)
smtp and pop ("Holger Bunkradt")
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From: "Adam C. Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:24:52 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wrote an app for windows and now I want to write a Linux version. I am a
> Linux newbie and I don't know hoe to use GTK or any X library for C. But
> if it's only for an app that sets enviroment variables it doesn't need the
> speed of C and I'm not really good in C anyways. But what language is the
> easiest to write GUI apps? Preferably with a graphical frontend. I want
> to code this app as fast as possible. It doesn't need to be fast or
> small. I just want it to look good and be easy.
Well, guile is nice, if you want to take the time to learn GTK.
But for something fast and easy you could go for Perl+Tk or
TCL+Tk.
--
Adam C. Emerson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.calvin.edu/~aemers19
"Why finish when you can start a new thing to half do?"
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From: Tiaan van Aardt <"tva"@cellpt.(nospam).co.za>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: What on earth is 'bing'?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:04:43 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Ramon,
> There is a very similar tool called "traceroute+bing" that can
> trace the list of routers and also give you the BW at every hop.
> I have been unable to make that tool work (the 'bing' part
> always says "unknown"), that's why I am looking for a standalone
> bing.
Also look for a tool called VisualRoute. It's a tool that runs under a
JavaVM (works very well if you have IE5 installed) and it can do traces
like the ones you are looking for. I also highlights any problem areas
on the links and gives a graphical plot of latency accross the entire
route (per hop).
Good luck,
-Tiaan.
______________________________________________________________________
Systems Engineer | For the time of your life: http://www.time.za.net
Cellpoint Systems & | GSM Technology for Positioning and Telematics
Wasp International | Unix/NT/Cisco admin & C++/Delphi development
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From: Doval Hulsopple <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape not connecting to the Internet
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:25:59 -0500
John Quinn wrote:
> Please could some one help with this problem.
>
> I am using SUSE 6.1 and I have configured my
> modem to connect to my isp. When I am connected,
> I start up Netscape and after I type in a web address I
> get the message cannot find server or something like
> that.
>
> Any suggestions.
>
> thanks
>
> John
Just one quick thought - did you set up your "Preferences" and check
your "proxy" settings? If you did, did you go into your /etc/resolv.conf
and edit that with the domain name and nameserver for your ISP?
HTH
Dave Hulsopple
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Hunt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Best language for graphical apps?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 99 16:20:32 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] "Collin W. Hitchcock" writes:
> > There seem to be dogmatic positions about the evils of Python's
> > ability to use whitespace to signify control structures;
> > unfortunately, the dogmatic positions seem more often based on blind
> > faith than on tenable arguments.
>
> A list of tenable arguments why I hate white-space syntax dependent
> languages:
>
> 1) A whole slew of trouble with code that uses tabs. Use your
> immagination. Read about the history of "make".
>
> 2) For bracket grouped languages I prefer the indenting style:
>
> block_start
> {
> sub_statement
> sub_statement
> }
>
> In Tcl it's a syntax error to put the opening bracket on a new
> line. In Python the brackets don't exist. So now I'm looking at
> someone else's hideous code with 240 column lines
240 column lines are bad whatever lang you are using, regardless of its
syntax rules.
> It's written so
> that it's completely incomprehensible unless you can see whole
> lines at a time, so you have to put your editor in wrap mode. If
> the brackets exist you can first make sure the code is indented
> consistently and then look for opened and closed brackets in the
> same column. You can filter out all the line wrap garbage when
> you're looking at block structure.
>
> 3) If you are trying to write a code generator, white-space syntax
> dependent languages are a nightmare.
Hardly. You just have a global variable _levelOfIndent_, and your
function that generates code aoutmatically indents by this amount.
> So much easier to produce the
> code without worying about indenting and then run a second program
> to indent it.
you could easily use this strategy when generating Python code.
--
Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Q] message on telnet?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:11:01 +0000
"Cameron L. Spitzer" wrote:
> Okay, I commented out the boot-time overwrite, and put an
> empty file in /etc/issue.net, and my tcpserver (formerly inetd)
> invokes in.telnetd with -h, and my machine *still*
> prints its hostname with the login prompt.
>
> I don't want to give the random port scanning script kiddies any clue.
> Is there any way to turn off the hostname in the login prompt
> short of hacking out a special telnetd?
> Ideally, they don't even get a login prompt until they send a return
> or two.
>
> Cameron
Very strange, I created a file issue.net with nothing in it and no
hostname info is printed.
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From: Tiaan van Aardt <"tva"@cellpt.(nospam).co.za>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: What on earth is 'bing'?
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:05:20 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Ramon,
> There is a very similar tool called "traceroute+bing" that can
> trace the list of routers and also give you the BW at every hop.
> I have been unable to make that tool work (the 'bing' part
> always says "unknown"), that's why I am looking for a standalone
> bing.
Also look for a tool called VisualRoute. It's a tool that runs under a
JavaVM (works very well if you have IE5 installed) and it can do traces
like the ones you are looking for. I also highlights any problem areas
on the links and gives a graphical plot of latency accross the entire
route (per hop).
Good luck,
-Tiaan.
______________________________________________________________________
Systems Engineer | For the time of your life: http://www.time.za.net
Cellpoint Systems & | GSM Technology for Positioning and Telematics
Wasp International | Unix/NT/Cisco admin & C++/Delphi development
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Waugaman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: why not C++?
Date: 29 Aug 1999 15:29:10 -0700
Sigh. I enter yet another language flamewar.
I have little hope of convincing anyone who has followed this far, least
of all NJR whose opinion is expressed so vehemently. However, there are
some parts of his post I'd like to touch on, along with some blatant
errors in fact I'd like to correct.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[ snips ]
>My point was that he's added even more pointless and obscure things to C++
>such as reference variables. What the hells the point of those when you
>already have pointers?
References are extremely important for use with operator overloading
and templates. I'll moan about operator overloading later; the use of
templates and generic programming is quite possibly the most powerful
and farthest-reaching use of the C++ language, and the absence of
reference variables would weaken templates to the point of near-uselessness.
References also cannot be induced to point to NULL in a strictly-conforming
program, which can eliminate a lot of checking of input conditions (or more
practically, since most C routines don't check their input parameters
anyway, can make the use of such routines much more reliable).
> Also overloading the << and >> to produce a less
>powerfull (for most things) I/O system than *printf and *scanf and to
>produce confusing statements like "cout << 2 << 3".
C++ I/O is considerably more powerful and less error-prone than the
various C equivalents. It provides a number of capabilities that are
extremely difficult to engineer code for in C:
- type-safe I/O
- I/O of user-defined types is syntactically equivalent to that of
builtin types
- redirecting I/O to user-created data sinks / data sources is
syntactically identical to I/O builtin data sinks/streams
- facilitated error checking, including delaying error checking/reporting
None of these are the case with C I/O.
If you mean that C++ I/O is confusing for former C programmers, I'd have
to agree - I come from a C background, and it's taken me a long time to
get used to the conventions of C++. However, C++ allows the ability to
create I/O systems that would have been easily visuallized in C but utterly
impossible to engineer in any maintainable manner - a few short lines of
code can redirect output of an array of user-defined types to a pipe,
string, network socket, or serial port, utterly impossible in C without
major reengineering, after which you'd get a set of functions and structs
that do pretty much what C++ does, except with more confusing syntax -
see GNU libio for details.
> In general IMO
>operator overloading produces impossible to follow code and the syntax for
>declaring an overloaded operator is a joke as are other things such as
>class inheritance.
Operator overloading is, in a sense, an unfortunate part of the C language,
because it is easily abused by beginners yet (because of its use in the
standard "hello world" program) it is often the first aspect of C++ that
those who come from C notice. This high visibility coupled with a high
potential for abuse means that a lot of programmers have made some very
unfortunate choices for when to use operator overloading.
Of course, no programming language I know of insulates the user from the
consequences of poor design decisions. C++ gives the coder a lot more
tools to work with, which increases the number of design decisions
required - getting some wrong is part of the learning process, but getting
them right can create some amazingly beautiful, powerful and maintainable
software.
Could anyone care to illustrate a better syntax for expressing class
inheritance?
> Also why give constructor functions the same name as the
>class and make destructors have a tilda in front? Even worse the copy
>function is the same as the constructor except it takes an argument!
>Whats wrong with constructor() , destructor() and copy() for chrissake??
What if there were a class where those member functions would make more
sense in another context? Perhaps a PhotoCopier object that had a member
function to make a copy of a piece of paper rather than a copy of the
object. The best member function name has been taken by the language.
Using the class name as the name of the constructor seems like a perfectly
suitable decision to me. Given that the tilde symbol is a commonly used
symbol for inversion, its use as the reverse of a constructor is suitable.
>I could go on but whats the point. C++ is a dogs dinner like I said before.
It appears that what NJR dislikes about C++ is the syntax, which has
likely turned him off to the power and expressiveness of the language as
a whole. Perhaps he would like to continue with other objections about
C++ since the previous set is rather unconvincing.
>Bullshit. The only practical part was building it on top of C. The rest of
>it was made up by stroustrop , probably with very little input from anyone
>who might have to use the language for real.
This is in error. From the start, Stroustrop had a great deal of input
from many others regarding the design of C++, including those at Bell Labs
and other establishments who used the language extensively. Some of
Stroustrop's own suggestions for language enhancements have been shot
down by the C++ community as a whole. C++ is not a one-man show, though
Stroustrop's contributions have been both seminal and significant.
Readers who would like to know more about how C++ was designed are invited
to refer to _The Design and Evolution of the C++ Programming Language_.
>I think not. Just because C++ is used by lots of people doesn't make it a
>good language syntactically anymore than billions of people buying Big Macs
>makes the burger upmarket cuisine. Sure C++ has power but so what? So does
>assembler.
So does a Turing machine. However, I'd hate to write a large piece of
software in either of the last two.
C++ is not a perfect language - for example, it's devilishly hard to
learn, has some extremely convoluted declaration syntax, and suffers
much from its inheritance from C - but the criticisms made in this
posting are not merited.
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All extremists should be taken out and shot.
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From: "Benedikt Hochstrasser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: root consoles
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:11:43 +0200
What's in your /etc/inittab? That's where the listening gettys are started.
Normally you have consoles 1 through 4 (alt-F1 through Alt-F4) plus 7 as the
X console.
Then: where do you log on - remotely via telnet (seems) or directly at the
PC itself?
Anyhow, have a look at /etc/inittab plus /var/log/{messages|syslog}
Ben (bhochstrasser at swissonline in ch)
Michael Watkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have a strange problem that I should like to fix. My root consoles are
mapped
> via the file /etc/securetty. When I login as root the first login is
> usually ttyp0
> then the next login goes to ttyp4, then ttyp6, then ttyp8, then 9 then
> a-f. Can someone
> tell me why 1,2, 3 and 7 are skipped they are defined in the file. If I
> take out all the consoles
> and leave only 0-4 I only get 1 shell so they aren't being called up
> properly. I know I have
> lots of shells and don't need these ones but it's annoying me not to know
> what's happening.
> I'm using Slackware 3.5 kernal 2.0.34 any help would be appreciated.
>
> Michael
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From: Lev Babiev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dumb ? diff between Hedwig and Venus
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:14:28 -0400
Hedwig and Venus are just names of these distros/versions. Most distro's
name each version a different name. I.e. RH 4.x series were named after
breweries. And Debian names like Slink or Potato can give any marketing
dept a run for their money ;-)
As differences go - Madrake is a distribution based on RedHat, but they
always add a series of enahncements (supposedly quite a bit by now).
As the kernel goes. Linux kernel is linux kernel, you may compile it
with different settings or use a different version, but it's still a
linux kernel. In fact no matter which distribution you choose -
compiling
your own kernel is one of the first thing you want to do. To have your
system properly configured and optimized.
- Lev
> What's the difference between Red Hat 6.0 (Hedwig) and Mandrake 6.0
> (Venus)?
> Are Hedwig and Venus two different kernels?
> TIA,
> Chris
> --
> Chris Campbell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://members.xoom.com/tech33/
> Tech33 on the IRC
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From: Spike! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: quick tar question
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:13:57 +0100
Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sorry to post this, but I've been unable to find a solution even after
> reading and rereading over and over again the man page for tar... it's a
> little unclear.
> Does anyone know what command to use to add files to an archive? For
> example, if I have a file called updates.tar.gz, how would I add *rpm to
> this archive?
tar zuvf updates.tar.gz *rpm
would be my guess...
u is the switch for update rather than c for create.
u also overwrites files in the tar archive with identical filenames with
newer date stamps.
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Date: 29 Aug 1999 21:31:00 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Why did RMS adopt Unix? (and other questions)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Kettlewell) wrote on 19.08.99 in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernhard Reiter) writes:
>
> > People don't know Objective-C enough.
> > Easier to learn and NeXTStep was written in it.
>
> Where can one find documentation for the language?
http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/macosx/
Kai
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"... by God I *KNOW* what this network is for, and you can't have it."
- Russ Allbery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: Joshua Li <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: What script executes before X11 starts?
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:29:51 GMT
Martin Drautzburg wrote:
>
> On my machine in runlevel 3 xdm (the graphical login) is started. So
> if you want another program to run before that, you would
>
> o write an init file "xfstt", that understands start and stop
> parameters (look at one of the existing files in /etc/rc.d)
>
> o symlink this file to rc3.d as S10xfstt and K10xfstt, where 10
> indicates when it shall be started with respect to the other files in
> rc3.d (use a lower number (09) to start ealier ...)
>
> However, X may not be started in runlevel 3 on your machine and you
> may not be using xdm so things may be a bit different on your
> machine. If worse comes to worst you don�t have sysV init at all. But
> in all cases /etc/rc* is the place to go to.
>
> --
> In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates ?
> -- Martin
I think level 3 on Caldera is shell command line only.
The situation is, my default level is 5(graphical KDE/X), and since
xfstt didn't start, so can't X, and I will be driven into level 3, and I
would login and type "xfstt &" and "init 5" to logon into KDE/X.
If I got your message correctly I should symplink it into rc5.d right?
--
Joshua Li
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
North York Ontario, Canada
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Malone)
Subject: Re: Yamaha DS-XG sound Card - Help!
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:33:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think it might come in SuSE 6.2, but I'm not sure.
Michael
On 17 Aug 1999 13:16:22 -0700, Aaron Ginn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>> Hi Linux Lovers,
>>
>> I am new to linux. I just install RH6 on my machine.
>> I have problem configuring my sound card. I have a Yamaha DS-XG PCI
>> sound card.
>>
>> sndconfig does not detect my sound card as PnP , but the stupid windozs
>> detects it.!
>> I have tryed the soundblaster compatible configuration, but i get the
>> message " Device or Resource Busy".
>> One more thing , it is not possible for me to change the sound card.
>> Please help.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Arjun Prabhu K
>>
>>
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
>
>
>Go to http://www.opensound.com.
>
>Sorry, but the driver for this card is $30. I have it in my box, and it
>works great with this drive, but you have to pay for it.
>
>HTH,
>Aaron
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Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:04:08 -0400
From: Jeff PIerce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: HP PPA printer language, Liunux supported???
I am going to buy a new printer and while looking for the bang-for-buck
winner I discovered that HP now had a new language called "Printing
Performance Architecture". Which, as I understand it, is like
Win-modems. They took the "building the dot matrix" out of the printer
and put the job on the processor.. Ie. make the printer cheaper.... No
PCL
Now the question, what about Linux??? Ghostscript?? and just plain
printing text, ie. no filters, just send an ASCII char to the printer???
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From: Big Daddy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: This is why RH 6.0 really sucks!
Date: 29 Aug 1999 23:06:18 GMT
Scribbling furiously, Bob Martin managed to write....
: Don't know what you did but there has been no change to resolv.conf, RH
: couldn't change that unless they issued new libraries for the resolver
: funtion which then would break other things.
Agreed. Speaking as one who as edited my /etc/resolv.conf file by hand...
Yup, it's there.....
--
Big Daddy
The law will never make men free; it is men who have got to make the
law free.
-- Henry David Thoreau
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Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:40:42 +1000
From: Rado Faletic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: POP3 server.
I'm using a separate popd called qpopper on my Ultrix machine. it should
be OK on Linux too.
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From: **gabriel**@twave.net (Richard L. Gabriel)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board
Reply-To: **gabriel**@twave.net
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:23:09 GMT
Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have got myself an old 486 with a 243Mb Hard drive... a great tool for
>trying out Linux networking...
>I created a boot disk out of the disk image provided by my Mandrake RH
>6.0 CDRom... When the 486 is booted with the boot disk, the partition
>check always give a bunch of error messages:
>Partition Check:
>hda/hda: status error: status=0x01 {error}
>hda/hda: status error: status=0x04 {DiskStatuserror}
>Drive not ready for command
>The hard drive is connected to the 486 thru a HDD controller. The
>problem seems to be stemed from the controller board. Any idea how I
>would solve the problem here?
>After several reboots, I decided to simply ignore the error messages...
>and I finally managed to get the installation done... although after a
>number of unsuccessful attempts. I could reach the logon screen after
>the installation... but when I entered my username, an error message pop
>up saying something like ld... (don't quite remember)... and I was
>unable to enter my password. After several trials, another message pop
>up staying that the system was going to stay frozen for 5 minutes...
>Jimmy
Jimmy, I believe that I would check with your HD Controller board
manufacturer for Linux recommendations. I have a 486DX33 system (16MB
RAM) running RedHat5.2 . I have a Promise EIDEMAX HD controller, with
a 10.1GB IBM HD as master on primary IDE port (on the MB) and a 2.1GB
WD HD (master)on the secondary IDE port (on the EIDEMAX card). My
CDROM is on the secondary port as slave. Each system is a bit
different, so patience is a virtue :-) . (It took me a long time to
get the CDROM working in LINUX. It would not work as it did in DOS
where it was connected to the Sound Blaster soundboard (quaternary IDE
port ..slave), nor would it work as the primary port slave! Its
working now...but I have other problems :-) in an seemingly unending
LINUX challenge!
Good Luck, Richard
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Anita Lewis)
Subject: Re: More Netscape errors.
Date: 29 Aug 1999 23:19:14 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:49:23 +0200, Jim Engstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ahhh!
>First the java bug, then netscape tell java it�s 16bit and now did my
>sent folder went to cyber hell. When I send a mail or message Netscape
>say "Mail sent but can�t fine sent folder." Where shall the sent folder
>live and waht shall it have for name.
>I start to hate Netscape, do any other browser exist that runs under X
>and can handle java?
>
You should be able to find your Sent mail in home/yourusername/nsmail. There
is a file
named Sent and it contains them all in one long file. That is assuming that
you did not
change where these files are. You can find that little piece of information by
doing
Edit/Preferences/Mail&Newsgroups/Mail Servers. Look at the bottom where it
says Local
mail directory and it will tell you where your files are.
Anita
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From: "Holger Bunkradt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: smtp and pop
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 02:06:05 +0200
Hi,
i will install a linuxserver with smtp and pop server for winclient.
please help
regards
holger bunkradt
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