Linux-Misc Digest #592, Volume #26 Wed, 20 Dec 00 00:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: Can you install Corel 2 over Mandrake 7.2 ? (Michel Catudal)
Re: RH6.1/586 binaries won't load on RH7/686? (rich)
Redhat vs Debian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
ftp? (Derek)
Re: ftp? (Mark Post)
Re: ftp? (Matt Haley)
Re: Redhat vs Debian ("Dan")
Re: color saturation with HP printing using gs (John Scudder)
Re: can't execute file on local drive (Dances With Crows)
Re: blindly accepted net advice--> blew away filesystem (Jynx)
Re: Redhat vs Debian (Hal Burgiss)
Re: ftp? ("Jan Schaumann")
Re: Redhat vs Debian ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Redhat vs Debian ("Dan")
internet broadcast in linux ("korner")
Re: RH6.1/586 binaries won't load on RH7/686? (Paul Kimoto)
Re: Redhat vs Debian (Paul Kimoto)
Serial Port Opens/Writes ("Steve")
squid proxy server (Derek)
Re: Glibc-2.2.x install? ("lobotomy")
Re: Redhat vs Debian ("Dan")
Re: RH6.1/586 binaries won't load on RH7/686? (John Hasler)
is it possible to net install with scsi drivers? (Wade C Blackwell)
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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Can you install Corel 2 over Mandrake 7.2 ?
Date: 19 Dec 2000 20:10:08 -0600
Don Hinds a �crit :
>
> I'm sure my shared video is the problem. It installed all the way through just
> fine, and it boots into the gui, but then the video gets messed up.
>
Change it to boot on the console instead and check the log when you do startx to get
into
the GUI. This seems like an X problem setup and not a Linux problem.
If you want to get a distribution that works you may want to try SuSE 7.0 professional.
--
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat
We hava all all kinds of links
and many SuSE 7.0 Linux RPM packages
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From: rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.1/586 binaries won't load on RH7/686?
Date: 19 Dec 2000 20:08:34 -0800
Thanks for your response, Paul, & excuse the e-mail if it bothers you, but
I'd really like to get to the bottom of this, & I'm not sure that RH tech
support are up to the task.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto) writes:
> Which dynamic libraries does it require? Run "ldd `which popclient`".
> (Perhaps it needs libc5 and hence the libc5 dynamic linker,
> /lib/ld-linux.so.1.)
$ ldd `which popclient`
/usr/bin/ldd: /usr/local/bin/popclient: No such file or directory
$ ls -l /usr/local/bin/popclient
-rwxr-xr-x 1 rbf root 12816 Oct 30 1997 /usr/local/bin/popclient
"No such file or directory", indeed! This makes no sense to me. Should
it? Does it to you? I've never seen a unix system act this way.
The latest from RH support:
> As I have come to understand older versions of glibc had some problems
> that people just become used to coding for. These are being corrected in
> the newer versions, if someone has written code using those bad practices
> then they will have problems under the newer versions that are comming
> out.
Not sure I believe them, or that glibc is the root of this particular
evil. I've seen lib incompatibilities before. Looks more like ld is
broken.
Rich Fuchs
--
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replies via email welcome from humans with non-commercial intentions
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.debian.devel
Subject: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 02:49:45 GMT
Hi,
How does Debian's bugginess compare to Redhat's? I understand that most
of the bugs are in specific packages, not in distributions 'themselves'.
Does it mean that most distributions are equally buggy?
Thanks in advance for the insight.
Wroot
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http://www.deja.com/
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From: Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ftp?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:09:28 GMT
what do you type in the "URL" box in netscape or IE to login to an ftp
server with user ID and password?
thanks
Derek
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post)
Subject: Re: ftp?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:13:48 GMT
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:09:28 GMT, Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>what do you type in the "URL" box in netscape or IE to login to an ftp
>server with user ID and password?
ftp://userid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Mark Post
Postmodern Consulting
Information Technology and Systems Management Consulting
To send me email, replace 'nospam' with 'home'.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Haley)
Subject: Re: ftp?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:17:21 -0000
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:09:28 GMT,
Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>what do you type in the "URL" box in netscape or IE to login to an ftp
>server with user ID and password?
>thanks
>Derek
ftp://user:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--
Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.debian.devel
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:21:03 +1100
As a general rule, the more $$$ hungry (read market share) a distro is, the
more buggy it is.
The most recent major example of this is the gcc 2.96 thing.
Have a look at http://securityfocus.com - do a search for RedHat, SuSE,
Slackware and Debian.
It's clear who's paying attention to what they're pushing.
The only thing common to Linux distros is the Linux kernel. For all other
aspects of the OS, there are many options of different apps that do the same
thing, and different versions of the same apps.
If you want security and / or stability, use Slackware or Debian.
Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:91p6o8$23k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> How does Debian's bugginess compare to Redhat's? I understand that most
> of the bugs are in specific packages, not in distributions 'themselves'.
> Does it mean that most distributions are equally buggy?
>
> Thanks in advance for the insight.
>
> Wroot
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: John Scudder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: color saturation with HP printing using gs
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:28:55 -0500
Floyd ,
Thanks I will try that.
>
> I had a similar need. The problem is that ghostscript and the
> builtin Postscript on my HP DeskJet 1600C have different ideas
> of what the gamma ought to be, so gamma.ps is a way to adjust
> ghostscript for identical results.
>
> Here is gamma.ps (two lines, total):
>
> %!
> {0.3 exp} dup dup currenttransfer setcolortransfer
>
> You can change the value of 0.3 up or down to get more or less
> ink on the page.
>
> Here is the way to include that from a gs command line:
>
> gs -q -sDEVICE=cdj1600 /var/spool/lp_bin/gamma.ps \
> -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sOutputFile=- - -c quit
>
> That command is used in a script as a filter, with the
> Postscript file piped into its stdin.
>
> I can't take credit for the above, as I found it in Usenet
> article posted a few years ago, but I've long since lost track
> of who posted the article that I stole the idea from. Hats off
> to whoever it was!
>
>
> --
> Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.ptialaska.net/~floyd>
> Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: can't execute file on local drive
Date: 20 Dec 2000 03:43:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 Dec 2000 19:56:55 -0600, John Hunter staggered into the Black Sun
and said:
>I am working on a networked linux client with a solaris NIS password
>server and NFS file server. When I try to execute a script on one of
>the NFS drives, it runs fine. When I try and execute it on a local
>drive, I get a permission denied.
[snip]
>video:/video/hunter/optsolve> grep video /etc/fstab
>/dev/hdb7 /video ext2 defaults,noauto,user 1 2
"man mount" line 347:
user: Allow an ordinary user to mount the file system. This
option implies the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev (unless
overridden by subsequent options, as in the option line
user,exec,dev,suid).
HTH,
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jynx)
Subject: Re: blindly accepted net advice--> blew away filesystem
Reply-To: If You Reply <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 20 Dec 2000 03:45:33 GMT
On Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:16:34 -0500, Jean-David Beyer scribbled:
>"(Wm. Randolph Franklin)" wrote:
>>
>> \begin{oldfartmode}
>>
>> This isn't new to Linux. On the old IBM OS/360 with punchcards,
>> you could delete one file (called a dataset) by having the
>> following input card to the IEHPROGM program, IIRC:
>>
>> SCRATCH VTOC=volname,DSNAME=filename comments go here
>>
>> Alternatively, you could delete everything this:
>>
>> SCRATCH VTOC=volname comments go here
>>
>> Note that a space separated the command from the comments. Guess
>> what would happen if you changed one comma to a space in my first
>> example above:
>>
>> scratch vtoc=volname dsname=filename comments go here
>>
>> Also, at this time, there was no security; any user could do
>> anything to the disk.
>
>I do not remember that there was no security.
There was no security sub-system for well over a decade
after OS/360 came out.
Remember, too, when there was only one proclib (SYS1.PROCLIB),
and the the OS/360 utilities manual gave examples
for IEBUPDTE to update a card image library using
DCB=(LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=80)
!!!
Used to 'repair' PROCLIB at least once a week because some
coder wanted to add their own 'personal' set of JCL.
Jonesy
MainFrame IBM since 1966
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Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 19 Dec 2000 22:52:27 -0500
On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:21:03 +1100, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If you want security and / or stability, use Slackware or Debian.
Is stable Debian still at 2.0 on kernel? That's one way to stay stable.
Just don't change anything.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp?
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 22:56:22 -0500
* "Derek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what do you type in the "URL" box in netscape or IE to login to an ftp
> server with user ID and password?
Not that that has *anything* to do with linux:
ftp://user@domain
You will be prompted for a password.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
"Hey, sexy mama. Wanna kill all the humans?" -Bender
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.debian.devel
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 03:46:28 GMT
In article <GxV%5.8264$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a general rule, the more $$$ hungry (read market share) a distro
is, the
> more buggy it is.
> The most recent major example of this is the gcc 2.96 thing.
> Have a look at http://securityfocus.com
I would rephrase it as "if the number of bugs is equal amoung the
distributions,then the bigger the market share, the more bugs are
DISCOVERED" (makes sense, doesn't it?)
Which is why I don't look at http://securityfocus.com .
Besides, it crashes my 4.76 Netscape once in a while.
Wroot
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.debian.devel
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:05:01 +1100
Don't think so.
There's NO WAY that Redhat 7.0 is anywhere near as stable or secure or
usable (gcc...) as Slackware 7.1 (or 7.0).
It's up to you what you believe though...
Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:91pa2i$4s9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <GxV%5.8264$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As a general rule, the more $$$ hungry (read market share) a distro
> is, the
> > more buggy it is.
> > The most recent major example of this is the gcc 2.96 thing.
> > Have a look at http://securityfocus.com
>
> I would rephrase it as "if the number of bugs is equal amoung the
> distributions,then the bigger the market share, the more bugs are
> DISCOVERED" (makes sense, doesn't it?)
>
> Which is why I don't look at http://securityfocus.com .
> Besides, it crashes my 4.76 Netscape once in a while.
>
> Wroot
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: "korner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: internet broadcast in linux
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:11:45 GMT
what do I need to install to watch real video broadcast? I went to real.com
download site, and there are a few different real players. I have red hat
linux 7, and there is nothing for redhat 7. Can I install real player for
linux 6.2 alpha instead? That downloaded file is ***.bin. How do I install
this on linux? Thanks.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Subject: Re: RH6.1/586 binaries won't load on RH7/686?
Date: 19 Dec 2000 23:19:04 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[posted and e-mailed]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, rich wrote:
> $ ldd `which popclient`
> /usr/bin/ldd: /usr/local/bin/popclient: No such file or directory
I believe that this is the error message if you don't have the
interpreter required to run the file, and in this case the
interpreter might be /lib/ld-linux.so.1, the libc5 dynamic linker.
Run "strings `which popclient | grep ld-linux" to see which dynamic
linker this file needs.
--
Paul Kimoto
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and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Kimoto)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: 19 Dec 2000 23:21:50 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Hal Burgiss wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:21:03 +1100, Dan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is stable Debian still at 2.0 on kernel? That's one way to stay stable.
> Just don't change anything.
No, 2.2.1something. (Which recent 2.2.* kernel probably depends on
whether you have Debian 2.2, 2.2r1, or 2.2r2.)
--
Paul Kimoto
This message was originally posted on Usenet in plain text. Any images,
hyperlinks, or the like shown here have been added without my consent,
and may be a violation of international copyright law.
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From: "Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Serial Port Opens/Writes
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:24:13 GMT
I need a shell script or C program that can open a serial port and set DTR
high or low. Documentation, code snippit, etc welcome.
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From: Derek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: squid proxy server
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:32:40 GMT
I am using a proxy server on a linux box and have a connection through a
cable internet provider with a static IP. Now I am wondering if you can
setup Squid proxy server to let in my computers on the home network with
a different set of ip addresses....
(e.g. cable IP = 24.183.219.xxx and home IP = 192.168.0.xxx) without the
use of another network card on server or router?
thanks for any help.
Derek
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Glibc-2.2.x install?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:40:30 GMT
Maybe, except for one thing: the RPM you have was probably made for Red
Hat 7, and thus compiled with the development version of GCC included.
You might find some things don't work if you don't also have the other
libraries compiled for RedHat 7. In other words, the only 'safe' path
would be to upgrade your entire system to RedHat 7, which might not be a
good idea at this point.
You can probably find versions of your packages that were compiled for
your distribution or something equivalent, that do not require glibc2.2.
I can't think of any software that absolutely requires it in order to
compile, in fact most software will still compile with libc5. So the
'safe' thing would probably be to either build it from source yourself,
or find packages built for a distribution (Mandrake, SuSE, RH<=6.2,
Caldera?) that doesn't use 2.2.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Does anyone know how to successfully upgrade glibc-2.2 from rpm
> packages? Is it safe to use the --nodeps switch on rpm in order to
> override about
> 100 dependencies warnings? Many new packages will not build without
> glibc-2.2, but I cannot discover a safe upgrade path.
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From: "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat,linux.debian.devel
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:51:56 +1100
Just noticed this link from above:
http://linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=109&aid=11453
Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:91pa2i$4s9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <GxV%5.8264$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As a general rule, the more $$$ hungry (read market share) a distro
> is, the
> > more buggy it is.
> > The most recent major example of this is the gcc 2.96 thing.
> > Have a look at http://securityfocus.com
>
> I would rephrase it as "if the number of bugs is equal amoung the
> distributions,then the bigger the market share, the more bugs are
> DISCOVERED" (makes sense, doesn't it?)
>
> Which is why I don't look at http://securityfocus.com .
> Besides, it crashes my 4.76 Netscape once in a while.
>
> Wroot
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RH6.1/586 binaries won't load on RH7/686?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 04:11:11 GMT
rich writes:
> "No such file or directory", indeed! This makes no sense to me. Should
> it?
No.
> Does it to you?
Yes. ldd looked inside popclient, found an interesting file name, tried to
open that file, and got "No such file or directory".
Try 'strings /usr/local/bin/popclient | grep lib' .
Better yet, just install fetchmail.
> The latest from RH support:
> As I have come to understand older versions of glibc had some problems
> that people just become used to coding for.
More accurately, some people got in the habit of using internal symbols.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: Wade C Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: is it possible to net install with scsi drivers?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 05:08:41 GMT
Good evening all,
I have an old tired pentium that is all scsi. When I use the
net boot
disk and try to install from an ftp server I can get to the server
fine but the system doen't have anywhere to install because there was
never a time when the aic7xxx driver had a chance to install. Anyone
have any ideas? TIA, ciao!!
Wade B
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