Linux-Misc Digest #612, Volume #21 Tue, 31 Aug 99 07:13:07 EDT
Contents:
Re: shellscript: i need a tmp filename how get a unique one ? (Stephan Houben)
Re: Writing bash daemon (Stephan Houben)
Re: Using Disk Druid to partition a 1.2 GB drive (Villy Kruse)
Directory tree: function to display? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: gateway: What am I doing wrong? (Thomas Antepoth)
Re: Had it with RH6
Re: Mounting & viewing audio CD's (Stephan Houben)
Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux (Mario Frasca)
Re: Security: replacement for /bin/crypt (Villy Kruse)
Re: The optimization debate (was: why not C++?) (Peter Ross)
SERIOUS: kernel panic: no init found (Jason Novotny)
Re: Writing bash daemon (John McKown)
Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board (Paul Sherwin)
Re: VMware - wow! (Kingsley G. Morse Jr.)
Difficulties with SCSI disk drive. (Zero Partition) (Lyndon F. Bartels)
lpr: problem with hostname ?! (Cliff Bradshaw)
SMTP error (kev)
LOCAL: Linux User Group of Davis - September 6, 1999 - The GIMP (William Kendrick)
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From: Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shellscript: i need a tmp filename how get a unique one ?
Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:33:01 +0200
Jayan M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also remember to use the process id or user id also in some way,
> if you need real 'uniqueness'.
`mktemp' takes already care of that, otherwise it would be of little use.
> Remember linux is real-time
> multiuser not like window~1, so consider the fact that two
> users (or one user from multiple consoles) might be running
> your app at the same time..
Fortunately, the authors of `mktemp' remembered that too...
Stephan
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From: Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.bash
Subject: Re: Writing bash daemon
Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:25:23 +0200
David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Harald Holzer wrote:
> >
> > You can use the "&" at the end of the command. This puts the command
> > in the background.
> >
> > start your shell script in one of the init scripts with the "&" at the
> > end.
> >
> > like:
> > thisismydeamon &
> >
>
> Yes, I know that, but I want to be able to stop it again without peering
> through process lists. In short, I need to create a /etc/init.d entry
> that allows me to start and stop the shell script on a whim.
In my init.d directory, there is a `skeleton' file which is indeed the skeleton
of a simple daemon service. It uses `startproc' and `killproc' to do its job.
Check it out.
Greetings,
Stephan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Using Disk Druid to partition a 1.2 GB drive
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:19:47 +0200
Darin Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Second, it's just a wierd rule (and it got started long before Linux,
>so there's no reason to assume that if it once was sensible that it
>still is). It doesn't make sense logically. Ie, if you have 1M
>memory, you'd want lots of swap space, but if you had 512M memory, you
>could probably get by with no swap at all.
This could be left over from some other unix systems which requires
that all swap space be pre-allocated to all running processes before the
process is loaded into memory. This allocation would be required even
if no actual swapping takes place. On these system your swap space must
be greater or equal to the ram size, or you can't use all your available
ram for processes.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Directory tree: function to display?
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:55:06 GMT
Is there a function analog to the DOS function 'tree' under Linux
which prints a nice pipeable overview of the directory tree?
Thanks in advance
Schablonski
"This may seem like a stupid question to you, but I'm the one asking".
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
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From: Thomas Antepoth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gateway: What am I doing wrong?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 07:33:58 +0200
Youjip Won <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ifconfig lo 127.0.0.1 => fine
> route add -net 127.0.0.0 ==> fine
> ifconfig eth0 166.104.88.108 => fine
> route add -net 166.104.88.0 ==> fine
route add -host 166.104.88.1 eth0
> route add default gw 166.104.88.1 ==> Ouch!!!
No mo' ouch ...
... Provided that this host in in reach for eth0 ...
> After executing the previous steps, if I type 'route' it shows the
> first two lines(networks) and stalls. 'route -n' shows the third
> entry(gateway) properly.
route without -n tries to resolve the ip to hostnames.
So it's not stalled it's just waiting for a DNS to answer
the Question:"Who is that 166.104.88.1?"
t++
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Had it with RH6
Date: 31 Aug 1999 04:15:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:28:11 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered:
>"Steve D. Perkins" wrote:
>>
>> > SB16 PNP worked flawlessly under 5.2, and is broken by default in 6. I
>> > got it to work, only after pouring through several HOWTOs including
>> > one for a completely different model sound card.
>>
>> I've been complaining about the exact same problem on this group for
>> about a week-and-a-half, and haven't heard any possible solutions yet.
>> What exactly DID you end up doing to make your sound card work?
>>
>> Steve
>
>sndconfig has had problems both under RH5.2 and under 6.0.
>I could never get it to work under 5.2, but I have usually got
>it to work under 6.2. In one or two cases it caused some
>problems because of the configuration. There is no question
>but that it is still buggy. However, there are upgrades which
>fix some of the bugs. Unfortunately, there are a lot of dependencies
>which must be satisfied, so upgrading the package requires upgrading
>a whole bunch of other packages also.
>--
>
>Leonard Evens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 847-491-5537
>Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
I was having the same problem. Sndconfig always failed trying to run
modprobe. For a while, I just manually configured ISAPNP and ran 'insmod
sb' at the end of my rc.local script. Finally, I just up and bought the
OSS drivers from www.opensound.com, which work MUCH better IMO.
--
-] Michael Proto [-
-] j e l l y d o n u t . o r g [-
-] Happy Linux user since 1997 [-
-] "What, me worry?" -A.Newman [-
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From: Stephan Houben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mounting & viewing audio CD's
Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:47:28 +0200
Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've never really though about it till now, but how does
> one mount a cd drive that contains audio tracks? Usually
> when I do it it says:
>
> (root@blah: /cd-roasters/keasycd/keasycd/keasycd) mount /dev/scd1
> mount: block device /dev/scd1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/scd1,
> or too many mounted file systems
Sure, an audio CD doesn't contain a file system.
So mounting it doesn't make any sense, I'm afraid.
> If I wanted to use a cd burning program I would need to
> be able to mount and examine these audio files.
I'm not sure. Seems to depend on the burning program.
If it is supposed to work with audio CD's, it will probably
access the "raw" device, i.e. some /dev/... thingie.
Greetings,
Stephan
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From: Mario Frasca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Running Windows NT Apps under Linux
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:55:41 +0200
Lee, Joey wrote:
>
> Greeting
>
> Do you know any software will allow Windows NT apps run under RedHat Linux
> 6.0? Any instruction is highly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> JL
did you already try Wine?
NT programs are just Win32 programs, so there's no difference with
W95/98. or do you know something which I don't know?
I have RedHat 6.0 and WinNT4sp3 on my machine, NT is on an NTFS,
wine990704 (not the latest one).
my problem is that I can't run programs which attempt writing in the
directory where the program is started (that is rather a common practice
in Windows!). I didn't yet try this, but I guess that I could work this
around by making a symbolic link to the W32 program I want to run in a
write enabled directory.
cheers,
Mario.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Security: replacement for /bin/crypt
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:27:45 +0200
Harold Forbes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm running Red Hat 5.2. I have a few files that I want to keep
>encrypted. I don't want to encrypt all the files in the directory, I
>don't need heavy-duty encryption, I'm not sharing it with anyone else
>so I don't need public key encryption. I'm used to using /bin/crypt,
>but it's not there.
Try look at PGP or openSSL. Both includes plain encryption utilities
in addition to their respective primary purposes. None of these compatible
with /bin/crypt.
Villy
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From: Peter Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: The optimization debate (was: why not C++?)
Date: 31 Aug 1999 19:20:20 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne) writes:
>On 27 Aug 1999 12:03:05 +0100, Paul Flinders
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul D. Smith) writes:
>>> On a micro level, I believe the best way is to write the code the most
>>> straightforward way possible first, _then_ when it all works, come back
>>> and see where you can tweak it to be faster. Remember, slower, working
>>> code is always better than faster, broken code.
>>
>>That's true unless the very slowness _is_ the breakage.
>>
>>Also with more multimedia stuff fast but not completely accurate can be
>>preferable to slow but complete (i.e would you prefer speech recognition
>>which ran in real time but which occasionally got it wrong to speech
>>recognition which took 5 minutes to recognise 10 seconds speech but always
>>got it right).
>Slower, working code that reads in a straightforward manner, which
>thereby makes it easy to make code transformations, is easier to
>optimize than slightly faster code where bits have been tuned, and
>thereby are virtually non-modifiable.
Or even more concisely
"It is easier to optimize correct code, then correct optimized code"
- Yves Deville
Which is why I prefer functional/logical languages because the compiler
can do the optimizations for you.
Pete.
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From: Jason Novotny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: SERIOUS: kernel panic: no init found
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:37:17 -0700
Hi,
Many many thanks are bestowed upon the linux guru that can save my
disk! I was mucking around with the glibc2 stuff that came with
StarOffice 5.1 and lost control of my environment.
After accidentally changing the symlink /lib/ld-so.2 to point to
something else by mistake I lost complete control of my system. I could
not "ls" "cat" or anything. It was totally unable to load shared
libraries.
Then upon boot-up, I get:
kernel panic: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel.
Well, my init still exists and when I tried invoking it from the
rescue disk, I get something like:
bash# /mnt/sbin/init 3
:error in loading shared libraries: libutil.so.1 : cannot open shared
object file: no such file or directory.
My root disk lives on /dev/hda5 and the rest of my fs lives on
/dev/hda6
I have all the right shared libraries in /lib and I fixed the symlinks,
but now how do I update the ld.so.cache?
Thanks very much, Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McKown)
Crossposted-To: gnu.bash
Subject: Re: Writing bash daemon
Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:58:03 GMT
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:04:04 +1000, David Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Harald Holzer wrote:
>>
>> You can use the "&" at the end of the command. This puts the command
>> in the background.
>>
>> start your shell script in one of the init scripts with the "&" at the
>> end.
>>
>> like:
>> thisismydeamon &
>>
>
>Yes, I know that, but I want to be able to stop it again without peering
>through process lists. In short, I need to create a /etc/init.d entry
>that allows me to start and stop the shell script on a whim.
>
>--
>David
In your bash script, "record" your process id into a file. You can then
use this file to issue a kill command. Suppose, for instance, that your
script recorded its pid into /var/run/myscript.pid. You could then
stop the daemon with a "kill -9 $(cat /var/run/myscript.pid)". If you wanted
to be cleaner, you could set your script up to "trap" a terminate signal.
The script below does this (this is not meant to be production level code!)
#!/bin/sh
#
# daemon shell to do not much of anything
echo "$$" >/var/run/mydaemon.pid
trap "echo \"Terminating on user request.\";rm /var/run/mydaemon.pid;exit" \
INT TERM
while true;do
sleep 10s
echo "Hello again."
done
Put the list of signals you want to cause normal termination in the trap
command.
Just a thought,
John
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Sherwin)
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.questions,hk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Save my 486... Linux and HDD controller board
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:26:24 GMT
On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:16:14 +0800, Jimmy Lio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Paul Sherwin wrote:
>
>> Alternatively, you may have a seriously screwed up partition table.
>> You could try deleting all existing partitions and starting again.
>
>I'm not sure if this is the case. Before the installation, the 240Mb
>harddrive had Windows 3.1 installed and was running great. After the Linux
>installation, I low-formated the harddrive once and checked it with Partition
>Magic 4.0 on my Win '98... everything was just fine... I guess I can dismiss
>the possibility that the hard drive has a screwed-up partition table...
OK.
>
>I noticed that some of you have controller boards with two IDEs. Mine is a
>bit different --- there is only one IDE. In fact, I've got two controllers:
>one Goldstar and the other UMC... My CDROM is on the SoundBlaster board,
>which is automatically probed on Boot-up.
>
Generally, the CD-ROM port on a sound card is configured like a
secondary IDE controller in terms of I/O addresses etc. If you already
have a second IDE port or an additional controller card, you may have
problems using this - at best you may need to reset some of the config
values. I'd suggest you take everything out except your main (primary)
IDE controller and your soundcard. If you _still_ have problems, take
the soundcard out, jumper the CDROM as a slave, and put it on your IDE
controller. That _has_ to work! Then, when you have a running Linux
system, you can add bits of hardware and see what happens. Linux
generally gives good diagnostics about hardware conflicts etc. once it
is installed and running.
Just to stress - I've installed Linux on _loads_ of old 486s using the
original (100-400Mb) disks and controllers - absolutely no problems
whatsoever.
Good luck, Paul
Paul Sherwin Consulting 22 Monmouth Road, Oxford OX1 4TD, UK
Phone +44 (0)1865 721438 http://www.telinco.co.uk/psherwin/index.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kingsley G. Morse Jr.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: VMware - wow!
Date: 30 Aug 1999 23:44:36 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug DeJulio) writes:
[...]
>The part of this that's a shame is that it'd only take a few tweaks to
>IA32 to make virtualization really possible. I believe a non-Intel
>vendor (eg. AMD) could do those tweaks in a way that doesn't break
>compatability with any code that isn't aware of it, and build a truely
>virtualizable x86 box. But nobody appears to have done so.
Transmeta and Amiga?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lyndon F. Bartels)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Difficulties with SCSI disk drive. (Zero Partition)
Date: 31 Aug 1999 07:10:35 GMT
Hello,
I don't know what's wrong with the hard drive on my machine. Hopefully y'all
can help.
My hardware:
P-II 350. 192Meg of memory.
Three disk drives: (All Ultra-Wide)
Disk1 is a 4.5G Seagate Medalist Pro
Disk2 is a 4.5G Seagate Medalist Pro
Disk3 is a 9.1G Seagate Medalist Pro
Controller is a Adaptec 2940UW Pro.
Disk3 is composed of one partition. All data on this partition is web pages.
I'm getting interesting errors. The symptoms include "Input/output errors"
when I try to rename a file. When I tried to unmount the drive I get
a "device busy" error. But I'm the only one logged on, and not on that device.
Obviously a process had some file open. I checked, and I'm not
out of space, not out of inodes either. I killed off a bunch of httpd
processes, and could unmount the device. On the next reboot, the drive didn't
up on the controller's part of the boot. Tonight, when I powered the machine
up, the drive showed up again, but when I tried to e2fsck it, I got
an error.
I'm currently running RH6.0, kernel 2.2.5-15. I haven't installed any updates
yet. Below, I included some excepts from /var/log/messages from
last night. Followed by my e2fsck attempt, and the /var/log/messages entries
added as a result. My gut tells me that there's something wrong with
disk cacheing, but I could be wrong. I don't know if it's hardware or software
or both. The two 4.5s have never given me problems since the install.
I have them set up with the OS, /home, and other areas. I later added the
9.1Gigger for data. I used cfdisk to partition the drive. I copied the data
from another computer, (via nfs) and I thought I was set. I started to rename
some of the files, etc, and starting getting long waits after each
command. Then I started getting the Input/output errors trying to execute a mv
command.
Anyway... any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Lyndon F. Bartels
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aug 29 18:16:52 gl1500 kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid
41256, scsi0, channel 0, id 2, lun 0 Write (6) 01 c0 4d 02 00
Aug 29 18:16:53 gl1500 kernel: SCSI host 0 abort (pid 41256) timed out -
resetting
Aug 29 18:16:53 gl1500 kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Aug 29 18:16:56 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:2:0) Performing Domain validation.
Aug 29 18:16:56 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Synchronous at 40.0 Mbyte/sec,
offset 8.
Aug 29 18:16:56 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Performing Domain validation.
Aug 29 18:16:56 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Successfully completed Domain
validation.
Aug 29 18:16:56 gl1500 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 2 lun 0
return code = 26030000
Aug 29 18:16:56 gl1500 kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 114764
Aug 29 18:20:07 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 40.0 Mbyte/sec,
offset 8.
.
.
.
Aug 29 22:19:05 gl1500 kernel: scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of
retries.
Aug 29 22:19:05 gl1500 kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Aug 29 22:19:09 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Synchronous at 40.0 Mbyte/sec,
offset 8.
Aug 29 22:19:09 gl1500 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 2 lun 0
return code = 26030000
Aug 29 22:19:09 gl1500 kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 2
Aug 29 22:19:38 gl1500 kernel: scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of
retries.
Aug 29 22:19:38 gl1500 kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Aug 29 22:19:41 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:1:0) Synchronous at 40.0 Mbyte/sec,
offset 8.
Aug 29 22:19:41 gl1500 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 2 lun 0
return code = 26030000
Aug 29 22:19:41 gl1500 kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 2
Aug 29 22:20:06 gl1500 kernel: (scsi0:0:0:0) Synchronous at 40.0 Mbyte/sec,
offset 8.
# e2fsck -fy /dev/sdc1
e2fsck 1.14, 9-Jan-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
e2fsck: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while
trying to open /dev/sdc1
Could this be a zero-length partition?
# tail messages
Aug 30 23:26:28 gl1500 kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 2 lun 0
return code = 28000002
Aug 30 23:26:28 gl1500 kernel: extra data not valid Current error sd08:21:
sense key Not Ready
Aug 30 23:26:28 gl1500 kernel: Additional sense indicates Logical unit not
ready, manual intervention required
Aug 30 23:26:28 gl1500 kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:21, sector 2
#
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cliff Bradshaw)
Subject: lpr: problem with hostname ?!
Date: 31 Aug 1999 09:55:25 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've developed a problem with the "lpr" command which has me puzzled...
I'd appreciate any guidance.
When I type "lpr filename" I get an error message along the lines of
"Cannot get hostname for this machine" (I forget the exact message)
and nothing prints.
Why is lpr bothered about the hostname? I know what has caused the
problem; I've removed my machine name from /etc/hosts because I'm
now with an ISP that gives me a dynamic IP address. If I add the
machine name to the 'localhost' line, lpr works and sendmail doesn't!
Anyone know what's going on?
--
Cliff
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Linux: The Choice of a GNU Generation"
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From: kev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: SMTP error
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:25:07 +0100
Hi,
I have been unable to send mail on two occasions recently, with only a
reboot fixing the problem. I'm using Red Hat 6.
In pine, when I try to send an email the message I get is:
"Mail not sent. Sending error: 451 SMTP-MAIL: died on signal 11"
When trying to send an email on Netscape:
"An error occurred while sending mail: SMTP server error. The server
responded (null). Contact your mail administrator for assistance."
Anyon know how to prevent/fix this?
TIA,
- Kev
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Kendrick)
Crossposted-To:
ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club,sacramento.internet,sac.announce,sac.general,sac.internet,comp.graphics.apps.gimp
Subject: LOCAL: Linux User Group of Davis - September 6, 1999 - The GIMP
Date: 31 Aug 1999 10:36:05 GMT
WHAT:
=====
LUGOD: The Linux User Group of Davis
TOPIC:
======
The GIMP (and other graphics utilities)
WHEN:
=====
Monday, September 6th, 1999
6:30pm - 9:00pm
WHERE:
======
Location
--------
LampPost Pizza (in the WestLake Plaza, in west Davis)
1260 Lake Blvd # 113
Davis, CA 95616
1-530-758-1111
Directions
----------
* From downtown Davis, take Covell or Russell west (going past hwy 113).
* From hwy 113 headed north, exit at Covell or Russell and turn left.
* From hwy 113 headed south, exit at Covell or Russell and turn right.
* From Russell, turn right onto Lake. West Lake will be on your right.
* From Covell, turn left onto Lake. West Lake will be on your left.
* LampPost is on the right side of the large Ray's store.
WHY:
----
* Presentation: "THE GIMP"
LUGOD member Bill Kendrick will demonstration using the Open Source
alternative to high-end drawing programs (like Adobe's PhotoShop),
"The GNU Impage Manipulation Program," or simply "The GIMP."
Bill will also briefly demonstrate a number of other useful graphics
tools: xv, Zgv and NetPBM.
* Committess:
UCD Resnet HOWTO
UCD PPP HOWTO
Social Tax Exempt Group Status
Highschool Project
Davis Farmer's Market
Ambassador to other LUGs
Financial Report
* Topics:
Davis Community Network
WHO:
----
LUGOD is open to all members of the public. Please join us. Bring friends!
HOW:
----
For more information about LUGOD, please visit our website:
http://www.lugod.org/
If you have any other questions, feel free to contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
=============================================================================
sys (Vice Chairperson) Bill Kendrick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/ http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/
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